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Date: 24 Aug 2005 10:29:07 PM
Object: Re: WHY DOES BUSH KILL PEOPLE?
El Conquistador wrote:

WHY BUSH INVADED IRAQ
By Peter Fredson

August 24, 2005

Let me see if I got it right. Bush is away on a long vacation when teams of
Muslims, most of them from Saudi Arabia, crash 3 planes into government
installations, another falls into a field, but none were intercepted despite
considerable intelligence that this might happen. So Bush and Cheney get
into planes, and scoot into bunkers. Later they make speeches while letting
their Saudi Arabian oil partners fly out of possible embarrassment. And this
is the reason their supporters call their actions heroic, courageous and
strong leadership?

Osama bin Laden makes a speech about Muslim outrage with the Bush family
trampling on Muslim beliefs so Bush retaliates by sending thousands of
American troops into Afghanistan where bin Laden has training camps for
people who are also outraged at American bullying in the Middle East.

Troops trot up and down Afghan mountains, blow up caves, houses, and catch
several thousand people who live in the area and hold them indefinitely,
many years later, without charges but with abundant abuse and torture to
find out why those people dislike us. Bush lawyers declare that as War
President he can do about anything he wants, and his Attorney General forges
a Hitlerian version of a Patriot Act to give Bush god-like powers without
fear of retribution from Senate or Supreme Court.

Then Bush, who lets bin Laden escape, decides that God has appointed him
Guardian of Morals of the World, declares Saddam Hussein Evil, and several
countries as The Axis of Evil, and sends waiting troops into Iraq. His very
first action is to seize the oil ministry and the oil fields, while
practicing Christian Shock-and-Awe on helpless Muslims in order to get
Saddam Hussein out of power. He succeeds brilliantly in killing thousands of
Muslims, destroying their homes, factories, installations, electricity,
water and hospitals...but, Thank God, the Oil is saved.

The next act is to give good friends of ***** Cheney the god-given command of
extracting Iraqi oil without contract, because the oil is ours although it
is under Iraqi sand. Meanwhile our troops brilliantly kill thousands more
Muslims and make their daily lives a living Hell, while Bush makes speeches
about Freedom, Liberty and Democracy. He also makes speeches about
sovereignty, and declares MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. He becomes a great hero to
his True Believer supporters, lobbyists, neo-cons, corporate executives and
Republican Congresspeople.

He conquered a people previously beaten by his daddy, whose munitions, arms
and vehicles were outmoded, but whose stock of Weapons of Mass Destruction
threatened the entire world, and then mysteriously disappeared when we went
looking for them. The entire Bush cabinet made speeches day and night about
mushroom clouds, pilotless planes, aluminum tubes, yellow cake, and imminent
danger from intentions. We found Saddam trying to escape by living in a
small hole and put him by Bush's god-like authority into indefinite
detention without access to legal counsel except by grace of George Bush and
Donald Rumsfeld.

Then we found all of the reasons to invade, conquer and occupy Iraq were
based on lies, deception, and deliberate misinformation. We found English
memos that Bush and his companions had planned the entire operation before
the tragedy of 9/11. This seems to have escaped the attention of most of the
media and the congress, who are busy discussing important news of missing
brides and Michael Jackson.

Now we have learned the real reasons for the bullying, aggression, violence,
death and destruction. They are, in order,

Seize some of the Earth's dwindling supply of oil for ourselves.

Seize land in Iraq to build huge permanent military bases where we can store
planes, explosives, nuclear devices and troops.

Dominate the entire Middle East, seize more oil and land for more bases.

Build a huge 1,800 staff embassy from which we can send bullies, CIA, and
other spies to dominate the Arab world.

Pretend to give sovereignty to the conquered nation, by installing puppets
personally chosen by the Bush sycophants, immunizing ourselves from
prosecution from war crimes, but planning for an indefinite occupation.

Declare that we have brought Freedom, Democracy, Liberty and Peace to Iraq
and show how ridiculous and satirical that is by smirking at the stupidity
of the American public and the complicity of much of Congress and the
Supreme Court.

Let Bush Strut, Swagger, and claim victor's laurels equal to Julius Caesar
to the applause of Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and Karl Rove, and retire
to Crawford, Texas as a master of deception and violence equaled only by
Adolph Hitler and Benito Mussolini.

Of course, every Bush supporter will vehemently deny that any of the above
happened. They will swear that Bush is honest as Nixon, that God told Bush
to kill Muslims, that soldiers cannot complain at being sent to their deaths
to get oil for neocon corporations, and that Freedom, Liberty and Democracy
were spread, like manure from the Bush ranch, all over the Middle East. Most
of all, they too want Bush to get on with his life and not bother with
troublesome mothers whose sons were killed by Bush lies.

The war in Iraq could've been prevented had Hussein simply surrendered,
as he was given 72 hours to do so. Had he done so, 90% of your post
wouldn't have been necessary. :-)
Prayer For Federal, State And Local Governments:
Lord God, grant to the President of the United States, to the Congress,
and to all law officials on the national, state and local levels, the
gifts of wisdom, justice, counsel and fortitude, to conduct your
affairs and those of men with righteousness. May they realize that all
authority comes from you and may they use it as your representatives.
May men respect all lawful authority justly exercised. And may our
government bring us to true peace and a prosperity that will be unto
our eternal salvation. Amen.
.

User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 26 Aug 2005 10:04:57 PM
Steve O wrote:

"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:34MPe.495$Uz2.124@trnddc02...

duke wrote:

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:10:15 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:


I see you've already been put in your place on this one. I'll just
attack you from a slightly different angle.



Yep, on top, right where I usually am.


So, you're a top? You know, if you put your full weight on your love
dolls, there is the possiblity of causing a break in their seams and
causing a leak.

Daniel, you just made me spit out a mouthhful of Shiraz Cabernet too!

I missed it but if true, it supports what a friend once said about bottoms
being nicer people...
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User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 26 Aug 2005 06:24:12 PM
Steve O wrote:

"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:34MPe.495$Uz2.124@trnddc02...

duke wrote:

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:10:15 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:



I see you've already been put in your place on this one. I'll just attack
you from a slightly different angle.



Yep, on top, right where I usually am.


So, you're a top? You know, if you put your full weight on your love
dolls, there is the possiblity of causing a break in their seams and
causing a leak.


Daniel, you just made me spit out a mouthhful of Shiraz Cabernet too!


You're welcome. :-D
--
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 25 Aug 2005 06:27:17 PM

The last time I checked, 100% of the people murdered were murdered by
other
people. God had nothing to do with it.

I would suggest you check your facts, like when god asks people to MURDER
their only child
in the bible.
or during the time of noah, or sodom and gomorroah.
the christian god just LOVES MURDERING people, he especially LOVES to MURDER
children
and then what about all of the people that die during floods, tsunamis,
etc,. why can't a loving, caring shithole christian god
stop that from happening?
.
User: "duke"

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 26 Aug 2005 04:30:45 PM
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 23:27:17 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:

The last time I checked, 100% of the people murdered were murdered by
other
people. God had nothing to do with it.

I would suggest you check your facts, like when god asks people to MURDER
their only child in the bible.

He didn't. He was just testing Abraham.

or during the time of noah, or sodom and gomorroah.

The queers did themselves in.

the christian god just LOVES MURDERING people, he especially LOVES to MURDER
children

Never has. You're referencing the source of all evil in the world.

and then what about all of the people that die during floods, tsunamis,
etc,. why can't a loving, caring shithole christian god
stop that from happening?

Those things are happening because mankind makes a lousy god. But you know, we
just HAD to try.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 03 Sep 2005 08:00:47 AM
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:30:45 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 23:27:17 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:

The last time I checked, 100% of the people murdered were murdered by
other
people. God had nothing to do with it.


I would suggest you check your facts, like when god asks people to MURDER
their only child in the bible.


He didn't. He was just testing Abraham.

Does God have doubts about his creation ability?

or during the time of noah, or sodom and gomorroah.


The queers did themselves in.

Why did God make them that way?

the christian god just LOVES MURDERING people, he especially LOVES to MURDER
children


Never has. You're referencing the source of all evil in the world.

God is the source of everything in the world.

and then what about all of the people that die during floods, tsunamis,
etc,. why can't a loving, caring shithole christian god
stop that from happening?


Those things are happening because mankind makes a lousy god. But you know, we
just HAD to try.

Just our luck to be stuck with a lousy God.

duke
*****

l
Barry
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Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
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User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 26 Aug 2005 04:37:07 PM
duke wrote:

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 23:27:17 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:


The last time I checked, 100% of the people murdered were murdered by
other
people. God had nothing to do with it.



I would suggest you check your facts, like when god asks people to MURDER
their only child in the bible.



He didn't. He was just testing Abraham.

Yet God murders people on his own. See also the deaths of the first
borns, the deaths of the people in the Great Flood, and so forth.



or during the time of noah, or sodom and gomorroah.



The queers did themselves in.

And God did the murdering. By the way, Sodom and Gommorah was not about
homosexuals. It was about gang rape. Read your Bible again. You seem
to be forgetting the story.



the christian god just LOVES MURDERING people, he especially LOVES to MURDER
children



Never has. You're referencing the source of all evil in the world.

God?



and then what about all of the people that die during floods, tsunamis,
etc,. why can't a loving, caring shithole christian god
stop that from happening?



Those things are happening because mankind makes a lousy god. But you know, we
just HAD to try.

And the Christian god is a lousy god now, is he?
--
****************************************************
* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
****************************************************
.
User: "Steve O"

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 26 Aug 2005 05:51:32 PM
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:7YLPe.4942$yv2.3736@trnddc04...

duke wrote:

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 23:27:17 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:


The last time I checked, 100% of the people murdered were murdered by
other
people. God had nothing to do with it.



I would suggest you check your facts, like when god asks people to MURDER
their only child in the bible.



He didn't. He was just testing Abraham.


Yet God murders people on his own. See also the deaths of the first
borns, the deaths of the people in the Great Flood, and so forth.




or during the time of noah, or sodom and gomorroah.



The queers did themselves in.


And God did the murdering. By the way, Sodom and Gommorah was not about
homosexuals. It was about gang rape. Read your Bible again. You seem to
be forgetting the story.

Are you sure?
I can guess what they got up to in Sodom, but what the hell were they doing
in Gommorah?
If it was something really kinky, then how come we know about Sodomy and
not, err, Gommorahry??
Actually, on second thoughts, don't answer... I'll stop drinking now.
--
Steve O
Atheist list #2240
"Some people are like Slinkies...
Not really good for anything, but
they still bring a smile to your face
when you push them down a flight of stairs"
~anon~
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User: "duke"

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 27 Aug 2005 08:08:29 AM
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:37:07 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:

He didn't. He was just testing Abraham.

Yet God murders people on his own. See also the deaths of the first
borns, the deaths of the people in the Great Flood, and so forth.

Great flood - doug selmer, you are a joke.

or during the time of noah, or sodom and gomorroah.

The queers did themselves in.

And God did the murdering. By the way, Sodom and Gommorah was not about
homosexuals. It was about gang rape. Read your Bible again. You seem
to be forgetting the story.

No, I remember the story. It was about queers.

the christian god just LOVES MURDERING people, he especially LOVES to MURDER
children

Never has. You're referencing the source of all evil in the world.

God?

Nope, humans are the source of all evil in the world. No other of the animal
kingdom is evil as mankind is evil.

and then what about all of the people that die during floods, tsunamis,
etc,. why can't a loving, caring shithole christian god
stop that from happening?

Those things are happening because mankind makes a lousy god. But you know, we
just HAD to try.

And the Christian god is a lousy god now, is he?

Eternal happiness for those that listen to him.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.
User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 27 Aug 2005 08:33:27 AM
duke wrote:

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:37:07 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:


He didn't. He was just testing Abraham.



Yet God murders people on his own. See also the deaths of the first
borns, the deaths of the people in the Great Flood, and so forth.



Great flood - doug selmer, you are a joke.

Who is Doug Selmer? I notice that you didn't dispute the deaths of the
first born, though. Are you suggesting that the pharoah murdered his
own son?



or during the time of noah, or sodom and gomorroah.


The queers did themselves in.



And God did the murdering. By the way, Sodom and Gommorah was not about
homosexuals. It was about gang rape. Read your Bible again. You seem
to be forgetting the story.



No, I remember the story. It was about queers.

Obviously not. It is about gangrape.



the christian god just LOVES MURDERING people, he especially LOVES to MURDER
children


Never has. You're referencing the source of all evil in the world.


God?



Nope, humans are the source of all evil in the world. No other of the animal
kingdom is evil as mankind is evil.

Yes, I know you hate mankind, but in your story, God is the creator of
everything, and, therefore, is the creator of evil. Therefore, God is evil.



and then what about all of the people that die during floods, tsunamis,
etc,. why can't a loving, caring shithole christian god
stop that from happening?



Those things are happening because mankind makes a lousy god. But you know, we
just HAD to try.



And the Christian god is a lousy god now, is he?



Eternal happiness for those that listen to him.

There is no proof of an "eternity." So, instead of being miserable
while on Earth with little chance of reward, I'm going to be happy in
the here and now.
And please, PLEASE, don't tell me "It's your funeral." I've got it
coming out of my ears.
I am *NOT* planning for my funeral; I am going to enjoy myself, no
matter how much you may be so hateful of your life that you are looking
forward to your funeral.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
****************************************************
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User: "duke"

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 27 Aug 2005 01:03:13 PM
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:33:27 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:

duke wrote:

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:37:07 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:


He didn't. He was just testing Abraham.



Yet God murders people on his own. See also the deaths of the first
borns, the deaths of the people in the Great Flood, and so forth.



Great flood - doug selmer, you are a joke.


Who is Doug Selmer?

You haven't figured it out yet?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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User: "John Jenkins"

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 28 Aug 2005 12:59:13 PM
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:36:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:09:11 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:

why does the loving, caring shithole christian god MURDER people?

god especially loves it when he murders children, he loves it when children
are murdered.


The last time I checked, 100% of the people murdered were murdered by other
people. God had nothing to do with it.

And now you know the truth of the story.

duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Yeah but God knew ahead of time that all of the people would be
killed. After all God knows everything that will ever happen.
.
User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 28 Aug 2005 04:05:51 PM
John Jenkins wrote:

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:36:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:


On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:09:11 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:


why does the loving, caring shithole christian god MURDER people?

god especially loves it when he murders children, he loves it when children
are murdered.


The last time I checked, 100% of the people murdered were murdered by other
people. God had nothing to do with it.

And now you know the truth of the story.

duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****



Yeah but God knew ahead of time that all of the people would be
killed. After all God knows everything that will ever happen.

....and refused to intervene.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "If God had intended us to walk, he wouldn't *
* have invented roller skates." --Willy Wonka *
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User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 28 Aug 2005 02:07:00 PM
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:09:11 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:

why does the loving, caring shithole christian god MURDER people?

god especially loves it when he murders children, he loves it when
children are murdered.


The last time I checked, 100% of the people murdered were murdered by
other people. God had nothing to do with it.

True. A god would have to exist first. But an overwhelming portion of
those murders were the result of the people's religion. Look at all the
people Bush has killed indirectly because he thinks he talks to "god".
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
http://home.comcast.net/~vickman/
Plonked by Raytard
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User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 25 Aug 2005 05:50:56 PM
duke wrote:

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:09:11 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:


why does the loving, caring shithole christian god MURDER people?

god especially loves it when he murders children, he loves it when children
are murdered.



The last time I checked, 100% of the people murdered were murdered by other
people. God had nothing to do with it.

So, God didn't kill all the people no Earth (notwithstanding Noah and
family) during the Flood? God didn't send fire and brimstone? God
didn't destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? God didn't kill the first peson?
Perhaps it is time to check again.
--
****************************************************
* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
****************************************************
.
User: ""

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 26 Aug 2005 12:03:49 AM
On 25-Aug-2005, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:

duke wrote:

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:09:11 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:


why does the loving, caring shithole christian god MURDER people?

god especially loves it when he murders children, he loves it when
children
are murdered.



The last time I checked, 100% of the people murdered were murdered by
other
people. God had nothing to do with it.


So, God didn't kill all the people no Earth (notwithstanding Noah and
family) during the Flood? God didn't send fire and brimstone? God
didn't destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? God didn't kill the first peson?

Perhaps it is time to check again.

He didn't say the FIRST time he checked, he said "the LAST time he checked."
Susan
.


User: ""

Title: Re: WHY DOES god KILL PEOPLE? 29 Aug 2005 09:44:13 AM
duke wrote:

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:09:11 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:

why does the loving, caring shithole christian god MURDER people?

god especially loves it when he murders children, he loves it when children
are murdered.


The last time I checked, 100% of the people murdered were murdered by other
people. God had nothing to do with it.

And now you know the truth of the story.

Not according to the Christian Bible:
Exodus 12:29 And it came to pass, that at midnight
the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt,
from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne
unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the
dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.
This after God "hardened" Parsoh's heart.
Larry
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