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"Divin Marquis" |
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02 Jan 2005 01:36:37 AM |
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Re: "Why Iraq" you ask? (why *not* Iraq...) |
Le Sun, 02 Jan 2005 05:19:38 +0000, Mr Wizzard a écrit :
So you're saying true Americans are Christians who prefer war over
peace?
Given certain circumstances, yes
That's one weird Jesus you have here, mister.
The one I remember said a few thing about "forgivenes" and "turning the
other cheek."
But then, I'm an atheist, so I'm used to knowing more about your religion
than most believers.
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| User: "Mr Wizzard" |
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| Title: Re: "Why Iraq" you ask? (why *not* Iraq...) |
02 Jan 2005 02:04:48 AM |
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"Divin Marquis" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.01.02.07.36.37.827450@127.0.0.1...
Le Sun, 02 Jan 2005 05:19:38 +0000, Mr Wizzard a écrit :
So you're saying true Americans are Christians who prefer war over
peace?
Given certain circumstances, yes
That's one weird Jesus you have here, mister.
The one I remember said a few thing about "forgivenes" and "turning the
other cheek."
But then, I'm an atheist, so I'm used to knowing more about your religion
than most believers.
That may be true, but lets see how much you know about our
war strategy with militant Islam, not our "religion". Whether you
wish to acknowledge it or not, we got one hellofa briliant war
strategey in play here - so much so that most (aka YOU), can't
even see it. And thats "good", too.... Becuase if you detected
our strategy right out of the gate, then it wouldn't be such a clever
strategy, now would it ? We got plenty of time to refine our
religious skills, right now we got a chess game, and war strategy
in play with militant Islam. From what we can tell, it appears that
our opponent (militant Islam) is in the process of refining their
religious skills, and they are mistakenly using -that- as their war
strategy - wrong move. Ala gets them nothing, Westpoint ideas do.
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: "Why Iraq" you ask? (why *not* Iraq...) |
02 Jan 2005 04:51:35 PM |
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Mr Wizzard wrote:
"Divin Marquis" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.01.02.07.36.37.827450@127.0.0.1...
Le Sun, 02 Jan 2005 05:19:38 +0000, Mr Wizzard a =E9crit :
So you're saying true Americans are Christians who prefer war
over
peace?
Given certain circumstances, yes
That's one weird Jesus you have here, mister.
The one I remember said a few thing about "forgivenes" and "turning
the
other cheek."
But then, I'm an atheist, so I'm used to knowing more about your
religion
than most believers.
That may be true, but lets see how much you know about our
war strategy with militant Islam, not our "religion". Whether you
wish to acknowledge it or not, we got one hellofa briliant war
strategey in play here - so much so that most (aka YOU), can't
even see it. And thats "good", too.... Becuase if you detected
our strategy right out of the gate, then it wouldn't be such a clever
strategy, now would it ? We got plenty of time to refine our
religious skills, right now we got a chess game, and war strategy
in play with militant Islam. From what we can tell, it appears that
our opponent (militant Islam) is in the process of refining their
religious skills, and they are mistakenly using -that- as their war
strategy - wrong move. Ala gets them nothing, Westpoint ideas do.
So let's get this straight -YOU understand this secret strategy?
Please, tell us all about it. Or is it like your god, it works in such
mysterious ways that it is indistinguishable from there not being one?
jwk
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| User: "Mr Wizzard" |
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| Title: Re: "Why Iraq" you ask? (why *not* Iraq...) |
02 Jan 2005 08:13:23 PM |
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"jwk" <jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104706295.281788.282460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Mr Wizzard wrote:
"Divin Marquis" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.01.02.07.36.37.827450@127.0.0.1...
Le Sun, 02 Jan 2005 05:19:38 +0000, Mr Wizzard a écrit :
So you're saying true Americans are Christians who prefer war
over
peace?
Given certain circumstances, yes
That's one weird Jesus you have here, mister.
The one I remember said a few thing about "forgivenes" and "turning
the
other cheek."
But then, I'm an atheist, so I'm used to knowing more about your
religion
than most believers.
That may be true, but lets see how much you know about our
war strategy with militant Islam, not our "religion". Whether you
wish to acknowledge it or not, we got one hellofa briliant war
strategey in play here - so much so that most (aka YOU), can't
even see it. And thats "good", too.... Becuase if you detected
our strategy right out of the gate, then it wouldn't be such a clever
strategy, now would it ? We got plenty of time to refine our
religious skills, right now we got a chess game, and war strategy
in play with militant Islam. From what we can tell, it appears that
our opponent (militant Islam) is in the process of refining their
religious skills, and they are mistakenly using -that- as their war
strategy - wrong move. Ala gets them nothing, Westpoint ideas do.
So let's get this straight -YOU understand this secret strategy?
Please, tell us all about it. Or is it like your god, it works in such
mysterious ways that it is indistinguishable from there not being one?
Oh save the sarcasm here dude, it adds nothing to your argument.
Re-read my post and you will see the strategy, and in a nutshell,
it basically is to 'get in their face', and call them on the carpet,
and create a playbox in the heart of an Arab land that would draw
insurgents in from neighboring countries, and for us to stick with it,
beat em at their own game of urban warefare, and not run away
like in Viet Nam, all of which they weren't expecting, and have
no real counter play against anymore. We'll draw em in, pick em
off in groves, and wear em out all while we are democracizing them.
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: "Why Iraq" you ask? (why *not* Iraq...) |
03 Jan 2005 05:40:36 AM |
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Mr Wizzard wrote:
"jwk" <jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104706295.281788.282460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Mr Wizzard wrote:
"Divin Marquis" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.01.02.07.36.37.827450@127.0.0.1...
Le Sun, 02 Jan 2005 05:19:38 +0000, Mr Wizzard a écrit :
So you're saying true Americans are Christians who prefer war
over
peace?
Given certain circumstances, yes
That's one weird Jesus you have here, mister.
The one I remember said a few thing about "forgivenes" and "turning
the
other cheek."
But then, I'm an atheist, so I'm used to knowing more about your
religion
than most believers.
That may be true, but lets see how much you know about our
war strategy with militant Islam, not our "religion". Whether you
wish to acknowledge it or not, we got one hellofa briliant war
strategey in play here - so much so that most (aka YOU), can't
even see it. And thats "good", too.... Becuase if you detected
our strategy right out of the gate, then it wouldn't be such a clever
strategy, now would it ? We got plenty of time to refine our
religious skills, right now we got a chess game, and war strategy
in play with militant Islam. From what we can tell, it appears that
our opponent (militant Islam) is in the process of refining their
religious skills, and they are mistakenly using -that- as their war
strategy - wrong move. Ala gets them nothing, Westpoint ideas do.
So let's get this straight -YOU understand this secret strategy?
Please, tell us all about it. Or is it like your god, it works in such
mysterious ways that it is indistinguishable from there not being one?
Oh save the sarcasm here dude, it adds nothing to your argument.
Re-read my post and you will see the strategy, and in a nutshell,
it basically is to 'get in their face', and call them on the carpet,
and create a playbox in the heart of an Arab land that would draw
insurgents in from neighboring countries, and for us to stick with it,
beat em at their own game of urban warefare, and not run away
like in Viet Nam, all of which they weren't expecting, and have
no real counter play against anymore. We'll draw em in, pick em
off in groves, and wear em out all while we are democracizing them.
Yip...your a fucking looney.
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
Skype callto://hellward
NFS Underground2.MOH PA And AA
Yeowww
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: "Why Iraq" you ask? (why *not* Iraq...) |
03 Jan 2005 09:39:09 AM |
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Mr Wizzard wrote:
"jwk" <jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104706295.281788.282460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Mr Wizzard wrote:
"Divin Marquis" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.01.02.07.36.37.827450@127.0.0.1...
Le Sun, 02 Jan 2005 05:19:38 +0000, Mr Wizzard a =E9crit :
So you're saying true Americans are Christians who prefer war
over
peace?
Given certain circumstances, yes
That's one weird Jesus you have here, mister.
The one I remember said a few thing about "forgivenes" and
"turning
the
other cheek."
But then, I'm an atheist, so I'm used to knowing more about your
religion
than most believers.
That may be true, but lets see how much you know about our
war strategy with militant Islam, not our "religion". Whether you
wish to acknowledge it or not, we got one hellofa briliant war
strategey in play here - so much so that most (aka YOU), can't
even see it. And thats "good", too.... Becuase if you detected
our strategy right out of the gate, then it wouldn't be such a
clever
strategy, now would it ? We got plenty of time to refine our
religious skills, right now we got a chess game, and war strategy
in play with militant Islam. From what we can tell, it appears that
our opponent (militant Islam) is in the process of refining their
religious skills, and they are mistakenly using -that- as their war
strategy - wrong move. Ala gets them nothing, Westpoint ideas do.
So let's get this straight -YOU understand this secret strategy?
Please, tell us all about it. Or is it like your god, it works in
such
mysterious ways that it is indistinguishable from there not being
one?
Oh save the sarcasm here dude, it adds nothing to your argument.
Re-read my post and you will see the strategy, and in a nutshell,
it basically is to 'get in their face', and call them on the carpet,
and create a playbox in the heart of an Arab land that would draw
insurgents in from neighboring countries, and for us to stick with
it,
beat em at their own game of urban warefare, and not run away
like in Viet Nam, all of which they weren't expecting, and have
no real counter play against anymore. We'll draw em in, pick em
off in groves, and wear em out all while we are democracizing them.
*That's your plan? Stick to something you know.
While you may *imagine you see a plan, I rather doubt you have any hard
evidence that *that is the Administration's plan. Hell I doubt you
have any hard evidence that they have one at all.
jwk
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: "Why Iraq" you ask? (why *not* Iraq...) |
02 Jan 2005 12:11:15 PM |
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On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 08:04:48 GMT, "Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
That may be true, but lets see how much you know about our
war strategy with militant Islam, not our "religion". Whether you
wish to acknowledge it or not, we got one hellofa briliant war
strategey in play here - so much so that most (aka YOU), can't
even see it. And thats "good", too.... Becuase if you detected
our strategy right out of the gate, then it wouldn't be such a clever
strategy, now would it ? We got plenty of time to refine our
religious skills, right now we got a chess game, and war strategy
in play with militant Islam. From what we can tell, it appears that
our opponent (militant Islam) is in the process of refining their
religious skills, and they are mistakenly using -that- as their war
strategy - wrong move. Ala gets them nothing, Westpoint ideas do.
Which is why we've lost more men in Iraq AFTER we declared the war
"won" than we did DURING the war?
Some "strategy". Bury them in American bodies.
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| User: "Mr Wizzard" |
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| Title: Re: "Why Iraq" you ask? (why *not* Iraq...) |
02 Jan 2005 01:26:44 PM |
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"Al Klein" <CellPhones@optonline.com> wrote in message
news:b8egt0hgdi4b70tn3nsaak2ssb0d6t2d3e@4ax.com...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 08:04:48 GMT, "Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
That may be true, but lets see how much you know about our
war strategy with militant Islam, not our "religion". Whether you
wish to acknowledge it or not, we got one hellofa briliant war
strategey in play here - so much so that most (aka YOU), can't
even see it. And thats "good", too.... Becuase if you detected
our strategy right out of the gate, then it wouldn't be such a clever
strategy, now would it ? We got plenty of time to refine our
religious skills, right now we got a chess game, and war strategy
in play with militant Islam. From what we can tell, it appears that
our opponent (militant Islam) is in the process of refining their
religious skills, and they are mistakenly using -that- as their war
strategy - wrong move. Ala gets them nothing, Westpoint ideas do.
Which is why we've lost more men in Iraq AFTER we declared the war
"won" than we did DURING the war?
The persistance "after" we declared war *IS* the war strategy !!
The last trick in militant Islams bag was "urban warfare", for this
has worked before in for them, and in Viet Nam, and they tought
this would surely work for them again (*pre* 911). *Post* 911,
and what I've outlined in my original post, 'not no more' ! We are
there, "in their face", once-by-one, tearing that down, and cornering
"the urban warefare" like cornered rats, and taking down whole
cities. Will this cost American lives, sure it will - most wars do.
Some "strategy".
Fuckin-A is it! Read and understand what is being said to
you, and you will see the value, and assertiveness in it.
Bury them in American bodies.
Bury "who/what" in American bodies? People do die
in wars. We will win in these efforts, thats a given if you
look at all we've done, and the strategy, and mindsest
"Post 911". No more placating, no more cheak turning.
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: "Why Iraq" you ask? (why *not* Iraq...) |
03 Jan 2005 05:39:33 AM |
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Mr Wizzard wrote:
"Al Klein" <CellPhones@optonline.com> wrote in message
news:b8egt0hgdi4b70tn3nsaak2ssb0d6t2d3e@4ax.com...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 08:04:48 GMT, "Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
That may be true, but lets see how much you know about our
war strategy with militant Islam, not our "religion". Whether you
wish to acknowledge it or not, we got one hellofa briliant war
strategey in play here - so much so that most (aka YOU), can't
even see it. And thats "good", too.... Becuase if you detected
our strategy right out of the gate, then it wouldn't be such a clever
strategy, now would it ? We got plenty of time to refine our
religious skills, right now we got a chess game, and war strategy
in play with militant Islam. From what we can tell, it appears that
our opponent (militant Islam) is in the process of refining their
religious skills, and they are mistakenly using -that- as their war
strategy - wrong move. Ala gets them nothing, Westpoint ideas do.
Which is why we've lost more men in Iraq AFTER we declared the war
"won" than we did DURING the war?
The persistance "after" we declared war *IS* the war strategy !!
The last trick in militant Islams bag was "urban warfare", for this
has worked before in for them, and in Viet Nam, and they tought
this would surely work for them again (*pre* 911). *Post* 911,
and what I've outlined in my original post, 'not no more' ! We are
there, "in their face", once-by-one, tearing that down, and cornering
"the urban warefare" like cornered rats, and taking down whole
cities. Will this cost American lives, sure it will - most wars do.
Some "strategy".
Fuckin-A is it! Read and understand what is being said to
you, and you will see the value, and assertiveness in it.
Your a fucking looney, right ?
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
Skype callto://hellward
NFS Underground2.MOH PA And AA
Yeowww
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: "Why Iraq" you ask? (why *not* Iraq...) |
02 Jan 2005 02:17:52 PM |
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On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:26:44 GMT, "Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
The persistance "after" we declared war *IS* the war strategy !!
The last trick in militant Islams bag was "urban warfare", for this
has worked before in for them, and in Viet Nam, and they tought
this would surely work for them again (*pre* 911). *Post* 911,
and what I've outlined in my original post, 'not no more' !
<taps MrWizzard on shoulder> Excuse me. It *IS* working for them.
They *ARE* killing our soldiers.
We are
there, "in their face", once-by-one, tearing that down, and cornering
"the urban warefare" like cornered rats, and taking down whole
cities. Will this cost American lives, sure it will - most wars do.
We're no longer at war. The president said so.
Some "strategy".
Fuckin-A is it! Read and understand what is being said to
you, and you will see the value, and assertiveness in it.
Assertiveness? Yours, yes. Value? Less than none.
Bury them in American bodies.
Bury "who/what" in American bodies?
The so-called insurgents. That's about our only "strategy" at the
moment.
People do die
in wars. We will win in these efforts, thats a given if you
look at all we've done, and the strategy, and mindsest
"Post 911". No more placating, no more cheak turning.
Nope, none of that. Just attack someone we're sure we can beat,
because when we attacked the people who REALLY attacked us we looked
like idiots.
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| User: "Mr Wizzard" |
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| Title: Re: "Why Iraq" you ask? (why *not* Iraq...) |
04 Jan 2005 12:37:16 AM |
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"Al Klein" <CellPhones@optonline.com> wrote in message
news:dilgt0tj098k64eiil9orpjtonp1jt5go5@4ax.com...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:26:44 GMT, "Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
The persistance "after" we declared war *IS* the war strategy !!
The last trick in militant Islams bag was "urban warfare", for this
has worked before in for them, and in Viet Nam, and they tought
this would surely work for them again (*pre* 911). *Post* 911,
and what I've outlined in my original post, 'not no more' !
<taps MrWizzard on shoulder> Excuse me. It *IS* working for them.
They *ARE* killing our soldiers.
Well lets think about this.... Umm, what, 1,200 of ours dead,
and just *how* many hundred "K's" of theirs? - And *how* many
of the Baath party leaders gone? - Saddam, Tarik Aziz, Whoday,
Coo-sya, hell, even Baghdad-Bob gone, right? Taliban gone too.
We are
there, "in their face", once-by-one, tearing that down, and cornering
"the urban warefare" like cornered rats, and taking down whole
cities. Will this cost American lives, sure it will - most wars do.
We're no longer at war. The president said so.
No he didn't. In fact, he didn't say anything more than the major
fighting is over, and even at that, it was a banner or some *****.
And EVEN at that point, its "good" that we get people (such as
yerself, as well as terrorist appoligist/sympathizors) because it
makes the mowing over of places like Fullujuh even *more* of
a surprize, and that give us an edge.
Some "strategy".
Fuckin-A is it! Read and understand what is being said to
you, and you will see the value, and assertiveness in it.
Assertiveness? Yours, yes. Value? Less than none.
Well its good that you feel that way...
Bury them in American bodies.
Bury "who/what" in American bodies?
The so-called insurgents. That's about our only "strategy" at the
moment.
Hehe... I suspose you think that dropping the big one
on Japna was a lack of strategy too, huh ?
People do die
in wars. We will win in these efforts, thats a given if you
look at all we've done, and the strategy, and mindsest
"Post 911". No more placating, no more cheak turning.
Nope, none of that. Just attack someone we're sure we can beat,
Remember, that point was a requirement of out strategy. (winnable)
because when we attacked the people who REALLY attacked us we looked
like idiots.
I get the feeling that you didn't even read my post. (Did you?)
Afghanistan was the war against those who arranged 911.
Iraq is the central war against militant Islam that we wage.
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| User: "lsj7" |
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| Title: Re: "Why Iraq" you ask? (why *not* Iraq...) |
04 Jan 2005 05:31:35 AM |
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Mr Wizzard wrote:
"Al Klein" <CellPhones@optonline.com> wrote in message
news:dilgt0tj098k64eiil9orpjtonp1jt5go5@4ax.com...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:26:44 GMT, "Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
I get the feeling that you didn't even read my post. (Did you?)
Afghanistan was the war against those who arranged 911.
Got your facts wrong, bubba. Afghanistan was just the restaurant . The
tenants/owner/employees were Saudi and Egyptian. The recipes were created
in Saudi Arabia by remnants of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Iraq is the central war against militant Islam that we wage.
Iraq is the illegal war that now draws ***** people to do harm to the
United States. But hey, you got the black gold, so spin your ***** off.
--
Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their
attention. .If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you
and I, and congress and Assemblies, Judges and governors, shall all
become wolves.
_________Jefferson to Carrington 1787
lsj7
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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04 Jan 2005 10:18:36 AM |
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 06:37:16 GMT, "Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <CellPhones@optonline.com> wrote in message
news:dilgt0tj098k64eiil9orpjtonp1jt5go5@4ax.com...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:26:44 GMT, "Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
The persistance "after" we declared war *IS* the war strategy !!
The last trick in militant Islams bag was "urban warfare", for this
has worked before in for them, and in Viet Nam, and they tought
this would surely work for them again (*pre* 911). *Post* 911,
and what I've outlined in my original post, 'not no more' !
<taps MrWizzard on shoulder> Excuse me. It *IS* working for them.
They *ARE* killing our soldiers.
Well lets think about this.... Umm, what, 1,200 of ours dead,
and just *how* many hundred "K's" of theirs?
Their strategy is to kill us, regardless of how many of them die. So
it's working.
Taliban gone too.
Only in the major cities. The warlords still run the rest of
Afghanistan.
We're no longer at war. The president said so.
No he didn't.
He did. Lying won't make you right.
The so-called insurgents. That's about our only "strategy" at the
moment.
Hehe... I suspose you think that dropping the big one
on Japna was a lack of strategy too, huh ?
Attempt to obfuscate noted. I guess you have no *real* argument.
People do die
in wars. We will win in these efforts, thats a given if you
look at all we've done, and the strategy, and mindsest
"Post 911". No more placating, no more cheak turning.
Nope, none of that. Just attack someone we're sure we can beat,
Remember, that point was a requirement of out strategy. (winnable)
As I said, just attack someone we can beat. Whether there's any point
to the attack or not, whether the attack makes us more secure or less
secure - the schoolyard bully strategy. And that's how the rest of
the world sees us.
because when we attacked the people who REALLY attacked us we looked
like idiots.
I get the feeling that you didn't even read my post. (Did you?)
Afghanistan was the war against those who arranged 911.
And we looked like idiots in Afghanistan. After all that fighting,
about all we gained was one city.
Iraq is the central war against militant Islam that we wage.
Since militant Islam is based in a lot of other countries, but NOT in
Iraq, all you've proved is that you don't have a clue.
--
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
- Isaac Asimov
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "lsj7" |
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04 Jan 2005 12:23:10 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 06:37:16 GMT, "Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <CellPhones@optonline.com> wrote in message
news:dilgt0tj098k64eiil9orpjtonp1jt5go5@4ax.com...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:26:44 GMT, "Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
The persistance "after" we declared war *IS* the war strategy !!
The last trick in militant Islams bag was "urban warfare", for this
has worked before in for them, and in Viet Nam, and they tought
this would surely work for them again (*pre* 911). *Post* 911,
and what I've outlined in my original post, 'not no more' !
<taps MrWizzard on shoulder> Excuse me. It *IS* working for them.
They *ARE* killing our soldiers.
Well lets think about this.... Umm, what, 1,200 of ours dead,
and just *how* many hundred "K's" of theirs?
Their strategy is to kill us, regardless of how many of them die. So
it's working.
Taliban gone too.
Only in the major cities. The warlords still run the rest of
Afghanistan.
We're no longer at war. The president said so.
No he didn't.
He did. Lying won't make you right.
The so-called insurgents. That's about our only "strategy" at the
moment.
Hehe... I suspose you think that dropping the big one
on Japna was a lack of strategy too, huh ?
Attempt to obfuscate noted. I guess you have no *real* argument.
People do die
in wars. We will win in these efforts, thats a given if you
look at all we've done, and the strategy, and mindsest
"Post 911". No more placating, no more cheak turning.
Nope, none of that. Just attack someone we're sure we can beat,
Remember, that point was a requirement of out strategy. (winnable)
As I said, just attack someone we can beat. Whether there's any point
to the attack or not, whether the attack makes us more secure or less
secure - the schoolyard bully strategy. And that's how the rest of
the world sees us.
because when we attacked the people who REALLY attacked us we looked
like idiots.
I get the feeling that you didn't even read my post. (Did you?)
Afghanistan was the war against those who arranged 911.
And we looked like idiots in Afghanistan. After all that fighting,
about all we gained was one city.
Iraq is the central war against militant Islam that we wage.
Since militant Islam is based in a lot of other countries, but NOT in
Iraq, all you've proved is that you don't have a clue.
Very nice rebut, Mister Klein.
*G*
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Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their
attention. .If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you
and I, and congress and Assemblies, Judges and governors, shall all
become wolves.
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:23:10 -0600, "lsj7"
<modus_ponens@ifthenbut.coma> said in alt.atheism:
Very nice rebut, Mister Klein.
Thank you.
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insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to appreciate it."
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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03 Jan 2005 03:48:21 AM |
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On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:26:44 GMT, "Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <CellPhones@optonline.com> wrote in message
news:b8egt0hgdi4b70tn3nsaak2ssb0d6t2d3e@4ax.com...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 08:04:48 GMT, "Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
That may be true, but lets see how much you know about our
war strategy with militant Islam, not our "religion". Whether you
wish to acknowledge it or not, we got one hellofa briliant war
strategey in play here - so much so that most (aka YOU), can't
even see it. And thats "good", too.... Becuase if you detected
our strategy right out of the gate, then it wouldn't be such a clever
strategy, now would it ? We got plenty of time to refine our
religious skills, right now we got a chess game, and war strategy
in play with militant Islam. From what we can tell, it appears that
our opponent (militant Islam) is in the process of refining their
religious skills, and they are mistakenly using -that- as their war
strategy - wrong move. Ala gets them nothing, Westpoint ideas do.
Which is why we've lost more men in Iraq AFTER we declared the war
"won" than we did DURING the war?
The persistance "after" we declared war *IS* the war strategy !!
The last trick in militant Islams bag was "urban warfare", for this
has worked before in for them, and in Viet Nam, and they tought
this would surely work for them again (*pre* 911). *Post* 911,
and what I've outlined in my original post, 'not no more' ! We are
there, "in their face", once-by-one, tearing that down, and cornering
"the urban warefare" like cornered rats, and taking down whole
cities. Will this cost American lives, sure it will - most wars do.
So why aren't chickenhawks like you in Iraq right now?
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The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1332 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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So what are you gonna do? Call your muslim friends?
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