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Religions > Atheism |
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"Al Klein" |
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16 Nov 2003 10:55:53 PM |
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Re: Why Must God be Caused? |
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:46:04 +0000 (UTC), (Mike
Goodrich) posted in alt.atheism:
But you don't address why must God NOT be caused.
THe answer is simple - *something* must not be caused.
Why? And if so, why not the universe?
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| User: "Mike Goodrich" |
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| Title: Re: Why Must God be Caused? |
17 Nov 2003 04:58:07 PM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<tnkgrvkrvmd4dj6a5vq5erh2h6sbs5n5lg@Pern.rk>...
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:46:04 +0000 (UTC), (Mike
Goodrich) posted in alt.atheism:
But you don't address why must God NOT be caused.
THe answer is simple - *something* must not be caused.
Why?
To overcome the quandry of ex nihilo, nihil fit?
And if so, why not the universe?
Why the universe?
-mg
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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| Title: Re: Why Must God be Caused? |
17 Nov 2003 06:48:58 PM |
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Mike Goodrich <> wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:46:04 +0000 (UTC), (Mike
Goodrich) posted in alt.atheism:
But you don't address why must God NOT be caused.
THe answer is simple - *something* must not be caused.
Why?
To overcome the quandry of ex nihilo, nihil fit?
What quandary? This is a principle set up on false assumptions by
theologians. It is hardly a principle of logic, *or* science.
And if so, why not the universe?
Why the universe?
Because we *know* there *is* a universe. So it is more parsimonious to
assume, if we must assume that something is self-subsistent, that it is
a known entity rather than an unknown and possibly unknowable one.
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John Wilkins wilkins.id.au
For long you live and high you fly,
and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
and all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be
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