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"Amelia M. Samples" |
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10 Jan 2004 08:53:19 PM |
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Re: Why persecute gays? |
"DemsStillHaveNoFriends" <DeansLemmingBattalion@dnc.net> wrote in message
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"Mitchell Holman" <ta2eeneNoEmail@comcast.com> wrote in message
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I have a feeling the Pope would disagree....
Just how close a relationship DO you have to the Pope, Holman?
Are you a Roman Catholic who is in faithful communion with that church?
No?
Well then, since you are not, may I humbly suggest you are merely another
meaningly leftist assh*le, a mindless f*ck, a liberal Democrat LOSER? I
think is a fair and accurate assessment of someone of your particular
moral
and intellectual talents, is it not?
IOW, get lost, you meaningless Leftist Creep.
The pope is irrelevant. The catholic church is irrelevant. Jesus is
irrelevant. God is irrelevant. All are either participants in or figures of
a fantasy myth that has NO PLACE in the legal system. Separation of church
and state. The US is a country that has a secular legal system for one good
reason - the founders realized that religion and politics are not a healthy
combination. The original colonists left England so they could practice
their religion without the government getting involved. Freedom of religion
by definition means that one religion cannot be shown favor over any other
as far as the government is concerned, therefore the government must remain
silent on any matter involving religious dogma, teachings, or values. To do
otherwise is unconstitutional. Whether it be laws regarding gay unions, so
called sodomy, religious displays in public spaces, or anything similar, if
the government sticks its nose in those issues, they violate the
constitution. Vice versa, the government CANNOT prevent people from practice
of any religion on private or church property...whether it's Christianity,
Judaism, Islam, Satanism, Voodoo, or anything else. Also, people like Fred
Phelps get to stand outside of the courthouses and protest any ruling or
debate that is favorable to gays...freedom of speech. I don't agree with a
word that SOB says, but he gets to say it. In fact, I plan on inviting him
and his sheep...er flock when my partner and I have our commitment ceremony.
I can use the laughs...but just because he/they can say it, that doesn't
mean that their arguments would hold water in a court.
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11 Jan 2004 01:09:22 AM |
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"Amelia M. Samples" <milla@georgebush.visi.com> wrote in message news:zU2Mb.70462$fq1.22754@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
"DemsStillHaveNoFriends" <DeansLemmingBattalion@dnc.net> wrote in message
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"Mitchell Holman" <ta2eeneNoEmail@comcast.com> wrote in message
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I have a feeling the Pope would disagree....
Just how close a relationship DO you have to the Pope, Holman?
Are you a Roman Catholic who is in faithful communion with that church?
No?
Well then, since you are not, may I humbly suggest you are merely another
meaningly leftist assh*le, a mindless f*ck, a liberal Democrat LOSER? I
think is a fair and accurate assessment of someone of your particular
moral
and intellectual talents, is it not?
IOW, get lost, you meaningless Leftist Creep.
The original colonists left England so they could practice
their religion without the government getting involved.
And now you are saying we follow European nations by legalizing same
sex marriage, as some of them have? Why'd the colonist leave in the first place?
Guess Mama was smarter than you thought...huh?
So...you need help packin, cause somebody's leavin!!!
Whether it be laws regarding gay unions, so
called sodomy, religious displays in public spaces, or anything similar, if
the government sticks its nose in those issues, they violate the
constitution.
There were anti-sodomy laws on the books, in every state, across the land.
They were on those books for a reason! Isn't that church mixing w/state???
So, now we are a more religious nation...is that what you are saying???
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| User: "Amelia M. Samples" |
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11 Jan 2004 01:09:42 AM |
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"Wyle Coyote" <d@d.a> wrote in message
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"Amelia M. Samples" <milla@georgebush.visi.com> wrote in message
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"Mitchell Holman" <ta2eeneNoEmail@comcast.com> wrote in message
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I have a feeling the Pope would disagree....
Just how close a relationship DO you have to the Pope, Holman?
Are you a Roman Catholic who is in faithful communion with that
church?
No?
Well then, since you are not, may I humbly suggest you are merely
another
meaningly leftist assh*le, a mindless f*ck, a liberal Democrat LOSER?
I
think is a fair and accurate assessment of someone of your particular
moral
and intellectual talents, is it not?
IOW, get lost, you meaningless Leftist Creep.
The original colonists left England so they could practice
their religion without the government getting involved.
And now you are saying we follow European nations by legalizing same
sex marriage, as some of them have? Why'd the colonist leave in the first
place?
Guess Mama was smarter than you thought...huh?
So...you need help packin, cause somebody's leavin!!!
No, Jackass, that's not what I'm saying. I am saying that we are finally
starting to shake off some of the archaic Dark Ages drivel brought to us
courtesy of "Judeo-Christian Values" - and if you want to punch my ticket
out of this country to any european nation, I'll go and sign a pledge to
never return.
Whether it be laws regarding gay unions, so
called sodomy, religious displays in public spaces, or anything similar,
if
the government sticks its nose in those issues, they violate the
constitution.
There were anti-sodomy laws on the books, in every state, across the land.
They were on those books for a reason! Isn't that church mixing
w/state???
So, now we are a more religious nation...is that what you are saying???
They were on the books precisely because of mixing of church and state.
That's why they're dropping like flies. That's why the 2 offensive words
were deemed to not be a valid part of the Pledge. That's why Ten
Commandments judge got fired. We are becoming a less religious nation, and
thank no god for it. God belongs in the house of worship and the house of a
believer, no where else.
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| User: "Solomon Kozanski" |
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11 Jan 2004 03:05:25 AM |
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"Amelia M. Samples" <milla@georgebush.visi.com> wrote in message
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And now you are saying we follow European nations by legalizing same
sex marriage, as some of them have? Why'd the colonist leave in the
first
place?
Guess Mama was smarter than you thought...huh?
So...you need help packin, cause somebody's leavin!!!
No, Jackass, that's not what I'm saying. I am saying that we are finally
starting to shake off some of the archaic Dark Ages drivel brought to us
courtesy of "Judeo-Christian Values" - and if you want to punch my ticket
out of this country to any european nation, I'll go and sign a pledge to
never return.
like it really matters what nation you live in. nationalism itself is a
religion, not to mention a disease upon mankind. yet another thing to divide
and control us. atheism is merely a window to a greater reality: globalism.
once you learn to throw out santa claus, the easter bunny, and jesus christ,
other forms of ***** tend to follow, nationalism being one of them. often
makes me wonder, other than some imaginary line (or imaginary god, for that
matter), what makes us so distinctly different from the rest of humanity?
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| User: "Amelia M. Samples" |
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11 Jan 2004 10:56:08 AM |
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"Solomon Kozanski" <noneofyourdamnbusiness@localnet.com> wrote in message
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"Amelia M. Samples" <milla@georgebush.visi.com> wrote in message
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And now you are saying we follow European nations by legalizing same
sex marriage, as some of them have? Why'd the colonist leave in the
first
place?
Guess Mama was smarter than you thought...huh?
So...you need help packin, cause somebody's leavin!!!
No, Jackass, that's not what I'm saying. I am saying that we are finally
starting to shake off some of the archaic Dark Ages drivel brought to us
courtesy of "Judeo-Christian Values" - and if you want to punch my
ticket
out of this country to any european nation, I'll go and sign a pledge to
never return.
like it really matters what nation you live in. nationalism itself is a
religion, not to mention a disease upon mankind. yet another thing to
divide
and control us. atheism is merely a window to a greater reality:
globalism.
once you learn to throw out santa claus, the easter bunny, and jesus
christ,
other forms of ***** tend to follow, nationalism being one of them.
often
makes me wonder, other than some imaginary line (or imaginary god, for
that
matter), what makes us so distinctly different from the rest of humanity?
That's just it...it's all imaginary. It lets "us" bomb "them" and pat
ourselves on the back and say we're not "terrorists". Ask the orphaned child
in Iraq who the terrorists are...
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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11 Jan 2004 04:39:27 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:09:22 GMT, "Wyle Coyote" <d@d.a> posted to
alt.atheism:
There were anti-sodomy laws on the books, in every state, across the land.
They were on those books for a reason!
The reason is Christianity.
Isn't that church mixing w/state???
Yes, so anti-sodomy laws are illegal.
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"If we really know Truth, we do not fear hearing falsehoods or half-truths; if we are not sure of the truth - we shudder and try to shout down every utterance." - A. J. Mims
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Wyle Coyote" |
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11 Jan 2004 10:02:45 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:m3k300pmhm6mrr4ili2uc282pn3q3mr376@Pern.rk...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:09:22 GMT, "Wyle Coyote" <d@d.a> posted to
alt.atheism:
There were anti-sodomy laws on the books, in every state, across the land.
They were on those books for a reason!
The reason is Christianity.
As is Murder, stealing, adultry, public nudity, etc.
Isn't that church mixing w/state???
Yes, so anti-sodomy laws are illegal.
Oh? Where in our constitution does it say church and state are to be separate?
That's just a widely used cliche.
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| User: "Amelia M. Samples" |
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12 Jan 2004 05:56:27 AM |
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"Wyle Coyote" <d@d.a> wrote in message
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:09:22 GMT, "Wyle Coyote" <d@d.a> posted to
alt.atheism:
There were anti-sodomy laws on the books, in every state, across the
land.
They were on those books for a reason!
The reason is Christianity.
As is Murder, stealing, adultry, public nudity, etc.
Wrong. Point by point:
Murder: Depriving someone of their property to wit their life.
Stealing: Depriving someone of their property other than their life.
Public nudity - ever hear of public health? Do you really want a naked guy
making your lunch at the Taco Hut?
All of the above require no deity.
Adultery - this one is being overturned on religious grounds just like the
sodomy laws.
Isn't that church mixing w/state???
Yes, so anti-sodomy laws are illegal.
Oh? Where in our constitution does it say church and state are to be
separate?
That's just a widely used cliche.
Ever actually read the thing? Whatever is not specifically enumerated is
left to the "several states"...add in full faith and credit, and there goes
your christian constitution. Don't pull out the pledge or the money as
examples...they're unconstitutional too...both of those things were altered
during the McCarthy era. He had some bug up his butt that we had to 'show we
were better than those godless commies'...
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12 Jan 2004 11:37:55 AM |
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Persecution is a strong word. Most people fit into the "avoidance"
camp.
Some truisms about gays and why they upset people.
1. Too many compared to heterosexuals are completely sexual-centric.
When was the last time you saw a parade whose theme was
heterosexuality? Also, despite
25 years of AIDS, many gays still have far more sexual partners than
heterosexuals. This indicates an social instability that
heterosexuals sub-conciously do not approve of.
2. They represent only 1-2% of the population but pretend that it's
10%.
3. If gayness is the result of a genetic problem and not a "lifestyle
choice"
they will likely be slowly eradicated as genetic engineering allows
parents
to spot the flaw and eliminate it before the birth of the child. Much
like
how female children are aborted in the Third World or how tests allow
aborting
of fetuses who have great potential for genetic diseases like cystic
fibrosis.
4. No one would care much about giving gays rights if those rights
didn't
directly conflict with religious beliefs. With over 50% of the
American public
identifying themselves as actively religious, this is expected.
5. Gay rights inevitably cost the public more money (as do all
rights) hence opposition from insurance companies, some governments.
6. Gender-bending appears to oppose instict-driven gender
differences,
hence it appears as "unnatural." Even back to Shakespeare, the term
"unnatural" has strong, repellent connotations.
7. Giving gays some rights appears to threaten the "fabric" or
Judeo-Christian
(as opposed to Western) civilization. This results in weakened
religious
beliefs, the foundations of religions and ultimately, the morality
preached
by various sects.
8. Giving gays rights will lead to other less palatable changes to
legal
and moral structures. Gay rights today, pedophiles rights tomorrow?
It's the old, "give 'em and inch, they take a yard" thing and there is
a logic
in believing that weakening one structure effects the stability of the
next.
Gay rights in the 1950s would have been unheard of, and the same may
be the
case 20 years from now for child abusers, outrageious as that sounds.
9. Changing "gender roles" may weaken society, make it less able to
compete with less "socially advanced" societies. This is a tough one
to prove
without actually experiencing it, then it's too late to go back.
10. Gays pretend they are no different (except for their sexual
predelictions)
but they do show inclinations toward differences in other areas such
as clothing, employment preferences, etc. Certain things seem to hold
more of
a fascination for them than for a heterosexual.
11. The perception that gays are somehow flawed and the natural
instinct to
shun this. Animals who leave weak offspring to starve, the eugenics
policies
of early America or Nazi Germany, the tendency of normal people to
avoid those
who aren't. Tests consistently show a very narrow set of
characteristics for
what people consider desirable traits in others, especially physical
characteristics.
This preference even crosses all cultural lines. Gays do not fit in
with these
characteristics.
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| User: "Ian S" |
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12 Jan 2004 10:53:53 PM |
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"Richard" <rander3127@rogers.com> wrote in message
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Persecution is a strong word. Most people fit into the "avoidance"
camp.
Some truisms about gays and why they upset people.
1. Too many compared to heterosexuals are completely sexual-centric.
When was the last time you saw a parade whose theme was
heterosexuality?
Gay people are gay whether or not they engage in sex. Gay Pride parades are
simply a reaction against society's institutionalized homohatred and
unrelated to sex.
Also, despite
25 years of AIDS, many gays still have far more sexual partners than
heterosexuals. This indicates an social instability that
heterosexuals sub-conciously do not approve of.
Perhaps if gays were ENCOURAGED to form stable relationships they would.
Considering the ***** gay people have to grow up with, it's amazing so many
gay people wind up in long term committed relationships.
2. They represent only 1-2% of the population but pretend that it's
10%.
Surveys that indicate 1-2% ar biased and really can only be considered lower
bound estimates. 10 % may be on the high side but it all begs the question:
what is the percentage below which oppressive discrimination suddenly
becomes appropriate?
3. If gayness is the result of a genetic problem and not a "lifestyle
choice"
they will likely be slowly eradicated as genetic engineering allows
parents
to spot the flaw and eliminate it before the birth of the child.
Why do you assume it's a genetic "problem"?
Much
like
how female children are aborted in the Third World or how tests allow
aborting
of fetuses who have great potential for genetic diseases like cystic
fibrosis.
4. No one would care much about giving gays rights if those rights
didn't
directly conflict with religious beliefs. With over 50% of the
American public
identifying themselves as actively religious, this is expected.
I don't think most religious people in the US believe in forcing their
religious beliefs on the rest of us. Forcing religious beliefs on others is
unAmerican.
5. Gay rights inevitably cost the public more money (as do all
rights) hence opposition from insurance companies, some governments.
Funny, I thought "rights" were inalienable, even God-given and not really
subject to a cost analysis!
6. Gender-bending appears to oppose instict-driven gender
differences,
hence it appears as "unnatural." Even back to Shakespeare, the term
"unnatural" has strong, repellent connotations.
7. Giving gays some rights appears to threaten the "fabric" or
Judeo-Christian
(as opposed to Western) civilization. This results in weakened
religious
beliefs, the foundations of religions and ultimately, the morality
preached
by various sects.
Why does giving gay some rights threaten Judeo-Christian civilization any
more than giving Hindus, Buddhists, or atheists those same rights?
8. Giving gays rights will lead to other less palatable changes to
legal
and moral structures. Gay rights today, pedophiles rights tomorrow?
Ah, yes the old slippery slope logical argument fallacy. So you don't
believe there's a difference between consenting adults and children?
It's the old, "give 'em and inch, they take a yard" thing and there is
a logic
in believing that weakening one structure effects the stability of the
next.
Gay rights in the 1950s would have been unheard of, and the same may
be the
case 20 years from now for child abusers, outrageious as that sounds.
9. Changing "gender roles" may weaken society, make it less able to
compete with less "socially advanced" societies.
You mean those socially advanced societies like Iran, Saudi Arabia, and
Afghanistan under the Taliban? I mean those societies seem to have the
strongest gender roles don't you think?
This is a tough one
to prove
without actually experiencing it, then it's too late to go back.
10. Gays pretend they are no different (except for their sexual
predelictions)
but they do show inclinations toward differences in other areas such
as clothing, employment preferences, etc. Certain things seem to hold
more of
a fascination for them than for a heterosexual.
The truth might surprise you.
11. The perception that gays are somehow flawed and the natural
instinct to
shun this. Animals who leave weak offspring to starve, the eugenics
policies
of early America or Nazi Germany, the tendency of normal people to
avoid those
who aren't. Tests consistently show a very narrow set of
characteristics for
what people consider desirable traits in others, especially physical
characteristics.
This preference even crosses all cultural lines. Gays do not fit in
with these
characteristics.
Sorry, I have a somewhat more optimistic view of humanity.
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Lo, many moons past, on 12 Jan 2004 09:37:55 -0800, a stranger called
by some (Richard) came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
Persecution is a strong word. Most people fit into the "avoidance"
camp.
Some truisms about gays and why they upset people.
1. Too many compared to heterosexuals are completely sexual-centric.
When was the last time you saw a parade whose theme was heterosexuality? Also, despite
25 years of AIDS, many gays still have far more sexual partners than heterosexuals.
This indicates an social instability that heterosexuals sub-conciously do not approve of.
When's the last time that the police raided a straight club for fun?
That's why pride parades take place in June, to commemorate the
Stonewall Riot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots
AIDS affects everyone, as does hepatitis, syphilis, and other STDs.
2. They represent only 1-2% of the population but pretend that it's
10%.
Actually, the percentage of homosexuals is around 3-5%. Add in
bisexuals and transgender folk and you get close to 10%.
3. If gayness is the result of a genetic problem and not a "lifestyle
choice" >they will likely be slowly eradicated as genetic engineering allows
parents to spot the flaw and eliminate it before the birth of the child. Much
like how female children are aborted in the Third World or how tests allow
aborting of fetuses who have great potential for genetic diseases like cystic
fibrosis.
Ah, so since we might be gone someday, why bother giving us civil
rights now? Why not just put us in camps!
No Leonardo DaVinci. No Alexander Hamilton. No Elton John, Andy
Warhol, or any of a thousand people who have affected this world. All
because you get squiked at the thought of us having sex.
4. No one would care much about giving gays rights if those rights
didn't directly conflict with religious beliefs. With over 50% of the
American public identifying themselves as actively religious, this is expected.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Sorry, but religious feelings *cannot* be enshrined in law. That's a
basic principle of America.
5. Gay rights inevitably cost the public more money (as do all
rights) hence opposition from insurance companies, some governments.
Marriage costs money. so do you support abolishing it entirely?
Civil rights are not a sum game. We don';t grant Constitutional
rights based on a bottom line, we grant them because the law of the
land demands they be granted!
6. Gender-bending appears to oppose instict-driven gender
differences, hence it appears as "unnatural." Even back to
Shakespeare, the term "unnatural" has strong, repellent connotations.
Exclusive homosexual behavior appears in all primates, and in most
mammals. Many birds also exhibit homosexual members, for example, my
favorite birds, the penguins..
http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2002/03/08/gay_penguins/
(As a side note, I can't believe I just entered "gay penguins" in
Google.)
It's natural as can be. A small percentage of the population that
does not mate and reproduce is not threat to the survival of the
species, and may in fact be a benefit, given the helplessness of human
infants.
7. Giving gays some rights appears to threaten the "fabric" or
Judeo-Christian (as opposed to Western) civilization. This results
in weakened religious beliefs, the foundations of religions
and ultimately, the morality preached by various sects.
If your faith the in the All-Mighty Creator and Ruler of the Entire
Bloody Universe is so damn weak that two women getting married can
destroy it, the problem lies in your faith, not their marriage.
Besides, go read 1 Samuel, Chapter 18.
18:1
And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto
Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and
Jonathan loved him as his own soul.
18:2
And Saul took him that day, and would let him go no more home to
his father's house.
18:3
Then Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as
his own soul.
18:4
And Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was upon him, and
gave it to David, and his garments, even to his sword, and to his bow,
and to his girdle.
8. Giving gays rights will lead to other less palatable changes to legal
and moral structures. Gay rights today, pedophiles rights tomorrow?
It's the old, "give 'em and inch, they take a yard" thing and there is
a logic in believing that weakening one structure effects the stability of the
next. Gay rights in the 1950s would have been unheard of, and the same may
be the case 20 years from now for child abusers, outrageious as that sounds.
Except that gay rights concern extending already existing rights to
consenting adults. For pedophiles to get similar rights would involve
changing the age of consent in all fifty states. You aren't going to
find legal precedent to do that. On the other hand, we do have legal
precedent on our side.
9. Changing "gender roles" may weaken society, make it less able to
compete with less "socially advanced" societies. This is a tough one
to prove without actually experiencing it, then it's too late to go back.
You mean like my gay friend who is a wlder and former US Marine? Or
the lesbian who likes baking?
Gender roles are a societal construct, and ours died horribly during
WWII, when Rosie the Riveter proved that women could sling iron (and
play baseball) just like the men. Women perform in all areas of
society now. Gay men, too, perform in all areas of society.
Extending marriage will not hurt society, but strenghen it.
10. Gays pretend they are no different (except for their sexual
predelictions) but they do show inclinations toward differences in other areas such
as clothing, employment preferences, etc. Certain things seem to hold
more of >a fascination for them than for a heterosexual.
So? How does a different cultural mindset (which is a bit of a myth..
I know gays who are complete slob metalheads) affect civil rights?
11. The perception that gays are somehow flawed and the natural
instinct to shun this. Animals who leave weak offspring to starve, the eugenics
policies of early America or Nazi Germany, the tendency of normal people to
avoid those who aren't. Tests consistently show a very narrow set of
characteristics for what people consider desirable traits in others, especially physical
characteristics. This preference even crosses all cultural lines. Gays do not fit in
with these characteristics.
Welcome to America. Take Bill Gates. Sickly, nearsighted, and he's
the richest man in America. Stephan Hawking. Should be dead from
ALS, but his quite possibly the most brilliant human every to live.
We don't leave babies expaosed on hillsides anymore. That's sick. We
accept and value differences.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:09:22 GMT, "Wyle Coyote" <d@d.a> wrote:
There were anti-sodomy laws on the books, in every state, across the land.
They were on those books for a reason!
Yes, religious bigots.
That are being overthrown acoross the country! : )
Guess freedom wins after all.
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