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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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10 Jun 2006 10:31:08 AM |
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Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
GREAT FUCKING WEBSITE, I wonder how the fundy idiots will respond....
http://www.whywontgodhealamputees.com/important.htm
If God answers medical prayers, then why do you need health insurance?
Simply think it through. If what Jesus says about prayer in the Bible is
true, and if all the stories about medical miracles in inspirational
literature are true, and if the cure of Jeanna Giese is true, and if your
belief in God and the power of prayer is true, and if God has a plan for
you, then why do you ever need to visit a doctor or go to the hospital? Why
don't you simply pray for a cure whenever you get sick? In fact, why not
pray preemptively every day -- "Dear God, I have faith that you will protect
me from all illnesses today, Amen" -- and go through your life completely
healthy?
The reason I ask this is because the statement that Jesus makes in Mark
11:24 is so simple:
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you
have received it, and it will be yours.
So is what he says in John 14:14:
If you ask anything in my name, I will do it.
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| User: "Dichard Rawkins" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
10 Jun 2006 12:13:11 PM |
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
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GREAT FUCKING WEBSITE, I wonder how the fundy idiots will respond....
http://www.whywontgodhealamputees.com/important.htm
I just recently discovered that gem too.
As for Christian responses? I don't expect to see any. That would require
that they actually have an open mind and think, and one thing that is
obvious about Christians when the topic is their god is that real thinking
is absolutely verboten. To honestly question their faith is considered the
worst of all weaknesses. I doubt very many Christians even bother to read
such websites when they learn of them. They just write off the referrer as
one of Satan's minions and go back to their daily delusions of grandeur,
stroking their egos like a preteen boy that just discovered his penis.
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| User: "Antonio Forza" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
10 Jun 2006 02:03:15 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:31:08 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
GREAT FUCKING WEBSITE, I wonder how the fundy idiots will respond....
http://www.whywontgodhealamputees.com/important.htm
If God answers medical prayers, then why do you need health insurance?
Simply think it through. If what Jesus says about prayer in the Bible is
true, and if all the stories about medical miracles in inspirational
literature are true, and if the cure of Jeanna Giese is true, and if your
belief in God and the power of prayer is true, and if God has a plan for
you, then why do you ever need to visit a doctor or go to the hospital? Why
don't you simply pray for a cure whenever you get sick?
What's more, if curing you is NOT his plan, then going to a doctor is
an attempt to thwart God's plan for you.
Why would any good Christian want to sabotage God's plans on earth,
for their own selfish pleasure? Surely such sinfulness will be
punished with great force and vengeance in the afterlife!!!
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Mental Anarchy - Free Your Mind
http://mentalanarchy.com
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
11 Jun 2006 04:55:37 AM |
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On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:03:15 -0700, Antonio Forza
<antonioforza@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:31:08 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
GREAT FUCKING WEBSITE, I wonder how the fundy idiots will respond....
http://www.whywontgodhealamputees.com/important.htm
If God answers medical prayers, then why do you need health insurance?
Simply think it through. If what Jesus says about prayer in the Bible is
true, and if all the stories about medical miracles in inspirational
literature are true, and if the cure of Jeanna Giese is true, and if your
belief in God and the power of prayer is true, and if God has a plan for
you, then why do you ever need to visit a doctor or go to the hospital? Why
don't you simply pray for a cure whenever you get sick?
What's more, if curing you is NOT his plan, then going to a doctor is
an attempt to thwart God's plan for you.
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Why would any good Christian want to sabotage God's plans on earth,
for their own selfish pleasure? Surely such sinfulness will be
punished with great force and vengeance in the afterlife!!!
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Mental Anarchy - Free Your Mind
http://mentalanarchy.com
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
11 Jun 2006 06:22:29 AM |
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What's more, if curing you is NOT his plan, then going to a doctor is
an attempt to thwart God's plan for you.
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
okay, so what time today will this loving, caring '"good" god of yours be
eliminating all diseases ?
wait I know, the all-powerful, all-loving, christian jerk god doesn't work
that way, right christian nut ?
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
11 Jun 2006 07:23:05 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 11:22:29 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
What's more, if curing you is NOT his plan, then going to a doctor is
an attempt to thwart God's plan for you.
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
okay, so what time today will this loving, caring '"good" god of yours be
eliminating all diseases ?
wait I know, the all-powerful, all-loving, christian jerk god doesn't work
that way, right christian nut ?
You are wrong. I answered your question somewhere else.
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
11 Jun 2006 07:37:09 AM |
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 11:22:29 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
What's more, if curing you is NOT his plan, then going to a doctor is
an attempt to thwart God's plan for you.
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
okay, so what time today will this loving, caring '"good" god of yours be
eliminating all diseases ?
wait I know, the all-powerful, all-loving, christian jerk god doesn't work
that way, right christian nut ?
You are wrong. I answered your question somewhere else.
no, you NEVER answered the question, I asked what time today will your
***** god be eliminating all diseases
and instead of saying, that your all-powerful, omnipotent god will show up
at 6:00 p.m. today to eliminate all diseases, you came up with the usual
christian mumbo jumbo.
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| User: "Ozzy" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
11 Jun 2006 08:09:29 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
12 Jun 2006 06:14:51 AM |
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On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
12 Jun 2006 06:28:47 AM |
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Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
it's utter foolishness to believe good comes from the christian god whether
it be the evil jehovah god, or eric's special non-jehovah feely good sky
pixie god
why does this all-powerful jackass christian sky pixie "non-jehovah" god
allow bad things to happen to good people?
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| User: "David" |
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12 Jun 2006 08:35:11 AM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
--
David
At the bottom of the application where it says
"sign here". I put "Sagittarius"
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
12 Jun 2006 10:12:28 AM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
13 Jun 2006 07:59:09 AM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
I believe that but that is not what you originally wrote. You claimed
that God can never be evil. I simply followed up your statement with
my description of evil coming directly from God.
--
David
At the bottom of the application where it says
"sign here". I put "Sagittarius"
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
13 Jun 2006 11:49:46 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:29:09 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
I believe that but that is not what you originally wrote. You claimed
that God can never be evil. I simply followed up your statement with
my description of evil coming directly from God.
Oh, I missed that, sorry.
The truth is, God never sends anyone to hell, people fall in hell by
forsaking God's helping hands.
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| User: "James" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
13 Jun 2006 12:55:29 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:29:09 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
I believe that but that is not what you originally wrote. You claimed
that God can never be evil. I simply followed up your statement with
my description of evil coming directly from God.
Oh, I missed that, sorry.
The truth is, God never sends anyone to hell, people fall in hell by
forsaking God's helping hands.
Didn't you just say that there wasn't an afterlife "beyond the physical
death of the body?" What's the use of heaven and hell if there's no one
around to populate them?
--
James B
aa #944
"A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence."
-David Hume
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
13 Jun 2006 07:15:30 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:55:29 -0500, James <shiv@spamblock.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:29:09 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
I believe that but that is not what you originally wrote. You claimed
that God can never be evil. I simply followed up your statement with
my description of evil coming directly from God.
Oh, I missed that, sorry.
The truth is, God never sends anyone to hell, people fall in hell by
forsaking God's helping hands.
Didn't you just say that there wasn't an afterlife "beyond the physical
death of the body?" What's the use of heaven and hell if there's no one
around to populate them?
What makes you think that heaven and hell are about the after life?
You'd better think again. Heaven and hell are all about this life.
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| User: "David" |
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14 Jun 2006 07:49:20 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:15:30 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:55:29 -0500, James <shiv@spamblock.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:29:09 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
I believe that but that is not what you originally wrote. You claimed
that God can never be evil. I simply followed up your statement with
my description of evil coming directly from God.
Oh, I missed that, sorry.
The truth is, God never sends anyone to hell, people fall in hell by
forsaking God's helping hands.
Didn't you just say that there wasn't an afterlife "beyond the physical
death of the body?" What's the use of heaven and hell if there's no one
around to populate them?
What makes you think that heaven and hell are about the after life?
You'd better think again. Heaven and hell are all about this life.
They are? You astound me. I am an atheist. Why am I not living a
hellish life? In fact I consider my life to be pretty good.
--
David
At the bottom of the application where it says
"sign here". I put "Sagittarius"
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
15 Jun 2006 11:15:44 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:19:20 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:15:30 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:55:29 -0500, James <shiv@spamblock.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:29:09 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
I believe that but that is not what you originally wrote. You claimed
that God can never be evil. I simply followed up your statement with
my description of evil coming directly from God.
Oh, I missed that, sorry.
The truth is, God never sends anyone to hell, people fall in hell by
forsaking God's helping hands.
Didn't you just say that there wasn't an afterlife "beyond the physical
death of the body?" What's the use of heaven and hell if there's no one
around to populate them?
What makes you think that heaven and hell are about the after life?
You'd better think again. Heaven and hell are all about this life.
They are? You astound me. I am an atheist. Why am I not living a
hellish life? In fact I consider my life to be pretty good.
You can consider your life to be anything you like, but is it truly
what you think? Who is going to decide that? You or God?
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| User: "Brother Bretts" |
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13 Jun 2006 08:29:41 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:15:30 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:55:29 -0500, James <shiv@spamblock.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:29:09 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
I believe that but that is not what you originally wrote. You claimed
that God can never be evil. I simply followed up your statement with
my description of evil coming directly from God.
Oh, I missed that, sorry.
The truth is, God never sends anyone to hell, people fall in hell by
forsaking God's helping hands.
Didn't you just say that there wasn't an afterlife "beyond the physical
death of the body?" What's the use of heaven and hell if there's no one
around to populate them?
What makes you think that heaven and hell are about the after life?
You'd better think again. Heaven and hell are all about this life.
Your ideas are so different, Eric. Are you trying your hand at
founding a new denomination? If so, you seem to have a good start.
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13 Jun 2006 10:02:36 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:29:41 GMT, Brother Bretts
<Hallelujah@JesusName.org> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:15:30 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:55:29 -0500, James <shiv@spamblock.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:29:09 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
I believe that but that is not what you originally wrote. You claimed
that God can never be evil. I simply followed up your statement with
my description of evil coming directly from God.
Oh, I missed that, sorry.
The truth is, God never sends anyone to hell, people fall in hell by
forsaking God's helping hands.
Didn't you just say that there wasn't an afterlife "beyond the physical
death of the body?" What's the use of heaven and hell if there's no one
around to populate them?
What makes you think that heaven and hell are about the after life?
You'd better think again. Heaven and hell are all about this life.
Your ideas are so different, Eric. Are you trying your hand at
founding a new denomination? If so, you seem to have a good start.
How about restoring the original Christian faith? Isn't that much more
wonderful than any new "denomination"?
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14 Jun 2006 07:50:31 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:02:36 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:29:41 GMT, Brother Bretts
<Hallelujah@JesusName.org> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:15:30 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:55:29 -0500, James <shiv@spamblock.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:29:09 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
I believe that but that is not what you originally wrote. You claimed
that God can never be evil. I simply followed up your statement with
my description of evil coming directly from God.
Oh, I missed that, sorry.
The truth is, God never sends anyone to hell, people fall in hell by
forsaking God's helping hands.
Didn't you just say that there wasn't an afterlife "beyond the physical
death of the body?" What's the use of heaven and hell if there's no one
around to populate them?
What makes you think that heaven and hell are about the after life?
You'd better think again. Heaven and hell are all about this life.
Your ideas are so different, Eric. Are you trying your hand at
founding a new denomination? If so, you seem to have a good start.
How about restoring the original Christian faith? Isn't that much more
wonderful than any new "denomination"?
How about admitting that it is all a bunch of hokum or is truth
something you can't handle?
--
David
At the bottom of the application where it says
"sign here". I put "Sagittarius"
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
15 Jun 2006 11:11:38 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:20:31 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:02:36 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:29:41 GMT, Brother Bretts
<Hallelujah@JesusName.org> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:15:30 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:55:29 -0500, James <shiv@spamblock.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:29:09 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
I believe that but that is not what you originally wrote. You claimed
that God can never be evil. I simply followed up your statement with
my description of evil coming directly from God.
Oh, I missed that, sorry.
The truth is, God never sends anyone to hell, people fall in hell by
forsaking God's helping hands.
Didn't you just say that there wasn't an afterlife "beyond the physical
death of the body?" What's the use of heaven and hell if there's no one
around to populate them?
What makes you think that heaven and hell are about the after life?
You'd better think again. Heaven and hell are all about this life.
Your ideas are so different, Eric. Are you trying your hand at
founding a new denomination? If so, you seem to have a good start.
How about restoring the original Christian faith? Isn't that much more
wonderful than any new "denomination"?
How about admitting that it is all a bunch of hokum or is truth
something you can't handle?
How about admitting that you know nothing about the original Christian
faith instead?
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
15 Jun 2006 11:30:14 PM |
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On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:11:38 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:20:31 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:02:36 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:29:41 GMT, Brother Bretts
<Hallelujah@JesusName.org> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:15:30 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:55:29 -0500, James <shiv@spamblock.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:29:09 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
I believe that but that is not what you originally wrote. You claimed
that God can never be evil. I simply followed up your statement with
my description of evil coming directly from God.
Oh, I missed that, sorry.
The truth is, God never sends anyone to hell, people fall in hell by
forsaking God's helping hands.
Didn't you just say that there wasn't an afterlife "beyond the physical
death of the body?" What's the use of heaven and hell if there's no one
around to populate them?
What makes you think that heaven and hell are about the after life?
You'd better think again. Heaven and hell are all about this life.
Your ideas are so different, Eric. Are you trying your hand at
founding a new denomination? If so, you seem to have a good start.
How about restoring the original Christian faith? Isn't that much more
wonderful than any new "denomination"?
How about admitting that it is all a bunch of hokum or is truth
something you can't handle?
How about admitting that you know nothing about the original Christian
faith instead?
How did you come to know about the original Christian faith?
WTFWJD
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
16 Jun 2006 08:33:09 AM |
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"Gospel Bretts" <Hallelujah@InJesusName.amen> wrote in message
news:rtc492ltbeesepvlk2nrtngds06kmm095v@4ax.com...
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:11:38 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
snip
How about admitting that you know nothing about the original Christian
faith instead?
How did you come to know about the original Christian faith?
Probably right around the time he walked in front of that bus.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
16 Jun 2006 08:58:26 AM |
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On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:33:09 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Gospel Bretts" <Hallelujah@InJesusName.amen> wrote in message
news:rtc492ltbeesepvlk2nrtngds06kmm095v@4ax.com...
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:11:38 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
snip
How about admitting that you know nothing about the original Christian
faith instead?
How did you come to know about the original Christian faith?
Probably right around the time he walked in front of that bus.
Not really.
I have had quite a few moments of clarity in my life, but my accident
is not one of them. No one should walk in front of a bus to know the
truth of life. I was only lucky to be alive for kissing death, if it's
not because I live in such wonderful country called Canada!
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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16 Jun 2006 07:25:22 AM |
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On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 04:30:14 GMT, Gospel Bretts
<Hallelujah@InJesusName.amen> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:11:38 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:20:31 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:02:36 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:29:41 GMT, Brother Bretts
<Hallelujah@JesusName.org> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:15:30 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:55:29 -0500, James <shiv@spamblock.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:29:09 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
I believe that but that is not what you originally wrote. You claimed
that God can never be evil. I simply followed up your statement with
my description of evil coming directly from God.
Oh, I missed that, sorry.
The truth is, God never sends anyone to hell, people fall in hell by
forsaking God's helping hands.
Didn't you just say that there wasn't an afterlife "beyond the physical
death of the body?" What's the use of heaven and hell if there's no one
around to populate them?
What makes you think that heaven and hell are about the after life?
You'd better think again. Heaven and hell are all about this life.
Your ideas are so different, Eric. Are you trying your hand at
founding a new denomination? If so, you seem to have a good start.
How about restoring the original Christian faith? Isn't that much more
wonderful than any new "denomination"?
How about admitting that it is all a bunch of hokum or is truth
something you can't handle?
How about admitting that you know nothing about the original Christian
faith instead?
How did you come to know about the original Christian faith?
Very simple, by following the teaching of Jesus.
WTFWJD
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14 Jun 2006 07:47:13 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:49:46 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:29:09 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
I believe that but that is not what you originally wrote. You claimed
that God can never be evil. I simply followed up your statement with
my description of evil coming directly from God.
Oh, I missed that, sorry.
The truth is, God never sends anyone to hell, people fall in hell by
forsaking God's helping hands.
ROTFLOL. You are obviously not reading your Bible correctly.
--
David
At the bottom of the application where it says
"sign here". I put "Sagittarius"
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| Title: Re: Why the all-powerful jackass God Won't Hear Prayers |
15 Jun 2006 11:19:17 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:17:13 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:49:46 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:29:09 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
I believe that but that is not what you originally wrote. You claimed
that God can never be evil. I simply followed up your statement with
my description of evil coming directly from God.
Oh, I missed that, sorry.
The truth is, God never sends anyone to hell, people fall in hell by
forsaking God's helping hands.
ROTFLOL. You are obviously not reading your Bible correctly.
I admit it is not based on the Bible, but I'm confident it is
supported by the Bible.
I don't read the Bible. I don't need to prove the Bible is right. I
expect the Bible to prove me right instead.
:-)
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12 Jun 2006 10:53:26 AM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
And a lot of this depends on whom you're married to.
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12 Jun 2006 01:28:45 PM |
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Brother Bretts wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:28 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:05:11 +0930, David <farookdas@picknowl.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
typed furiously:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
So condemning an innocent child to be forever tortured is a good thing
in your mind. That is what happens when one dies without believing.
isn't it?
No. If one dies, one dies. End of story. There is no after life beyond
the physical death of the body. Both the eternal punishment and the
eternal happiness will happen in this life on earth, not the after
life in the never land.
And a lot of this depends on whom you're married to.
Hit that one dead nuts.
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14 Sep 2006 10:28:55 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:14:51 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote:
On 11 Jun 2006 18:09:29 -0700, "Ozzy" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
God's plan is always good and never evil. You are suggesting an evil
plan which has nothing to do with the good God.
Evil plans come from evil gods. Ergo, god is evil.
But God can never be evil. To believe God can be evil is like to
believe day can be as dark as night. That is utter foolishness to the
least.
To believe God is evil is to believe God exists which is absurd.
Barry
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Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
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