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User: "Karen Gordon"
Date: 12 Dec 2006 10:01:57 PM
Object: Re: Why would 'gays' want children?
(K): Same reason other couples want children? They think children will
make them a more complete family? They forget that marriage and children
are the primary causes of divorces and custody fights.
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User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? 12 Dec 2006 10:10:52 PM
(Karen Gordon) wrote in
news:elntvl$97e$1@theodyn.ncf.ca:

(K): Same reason other couples want children? They think children
will make them a more complete family? They forget that marriage and
children are the primary causes of divorces and custody fights.

My wife and I met in high school, dated through college and beyond. We
were married for nine years before our first child. Now married for
twenty years. I disagree. Immaturity and poverty cause divorce.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
Lighthouses are more helpful than churches.
-- Benjamin Franklin
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User: "AZ Nomad"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? 13 Dec 2006 11:42:05 AM
On 13 Dec 2006 04:10:52 GMT, Enkidu <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> wrote:

ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) wrote in
news:elntvl$97e$1@theodyn.ncf.ca:

(K): Same reason other couples want children? They think children
will make them a more complete family? They forget that marriage and
children are the primary causes of divorces and custody fights.

My wife and I met in high school, dated through college and beyond. We
were married for nine years before our first child. Now married for
twenty years. I disagree. Immaturity and poverty cause divorce.

I don't think there's any correlation between poverty (or wealth) and divorce.
.
User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? 13 Dec 2006 07:53:38 PM
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrneo0erd.6fi.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:

On 13 Dec 2006 04:10:52 GMT, Enkidu <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> wrote:


ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) wrote in
news:elntvl$97e$1@theodyn.ncf.ca:


(K): Same reason other couples want children? They think children
will make them a more complete family? They forget that marriage
and children are the primary causes of divorces and custody fights.


My wife and I met in high school, dated through college and beyond. We
were married for nine years before our first child. Now married for
twenty years. I disagree. Immaturity and poverty cause divorce.


I don't think there's any correlation between poverty (or wealth) and
divorce.

I teach at a wealthy school. Well over half the kids are from two parent
homes. Across town in a poor school, perhaps one kid in five comes from
a two parent home. Of couse, some two parent homes are second marraiges,
but still, my experience is that poor people have a harder time holding a
family together.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is
not hereditary."
-Thomas Paine
.
User: "AZ Nomad"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? 13 Dec 2006 08:36:00 PM
On 14 Dec 2006 01:53:38 GMT, Enkidu <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> wrote:

AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrneo0erd.6fi.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:

On 13 Dec 2006 04:10:52 GMT, Enkidu <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> wrote:


ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) wrote in
news:elntvl$97e$1@theodyn.ncf.ca:


(K): Same reason other couples want children? They think children
will make them a more complete family? They forget that marriage
and children are the primary causes of divorces and custody fights.


My wife and I met in high school, dated through college and beyond. We
were married for nine years before our first child. Now married for
twenty years. I disagree. Immaturity and poverty cause divorce.


I don't think there's any correlation between poverty (or wealth) and
divorce.

I teach at a wealthy school. Well over half the kids are from two parent
homes. Across town in a poor school, perhaps one kid in five comes from
a two parent home. Of couse, some two parent homes are second marraiges,
but still, my experience is that poor people have a harder time holding a
family together.

Don't forget to rule out every single case where daddy never married.
We're not talking about single parent households. We're talking about
divorce.
.


User: "curtsybear"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? 13 Dec 2006 01:23:51 PM
["Followup-To:" header set to alt.politics.homosexuality.]
On 2006-12-13, AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:

On 13 Dec 2006 04:10:52 GMT, Enkidu <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> wrote:

My wife and I met in high school, dated through college and beyond. We
were married for nine years before our first child. Now married for
twenty years. I disagree. Immaturity and poverty cause divorce.

I don't think there's any correlation between poverty (or wealth) and divorce.

Well, the case *could* be made that wealth causes divorce more so
than poverty causing it. I mean, as long as there's not enough
money to support two households, there's a *lot* more pressure for
staying together.
--
"Look at that Hollywood tramp Zsa Zsa Gabor. She's had NINE
husbands... Her sister Eva ... had FIVE husbands and died while
a shacking up with another man. Joan Collins has had five husbands.
Is it any wonder these tawdry actresses have mostly queer fans."
-- Lurlean Tucker
What? Like we're the only ones not owed back alimony?
.


User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? 13 Dec 2006 09:44:12 AM
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:10:52 +0000, Enkidu wrote:

ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) wrote in
news:elntvl$97e$1@theodyn.ncf.ca:

(K): Same reason other couples want children? They think children
will make them a more complete family? They forget that marriage and
children are the primary causes of divorces and custody fights.


My wife and I met in high school, dated through college and beyond. We
were married for nine years before our first child. Now married for
twenty years. I disagree. Immaturity and poverty cause divorce.

Well, actually, marriage rather *is the primary cause of divorce...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
If their omnipotent, omniscient (so they say) god wants me to
believe in him, then he should know what would prove his
existence to me. He hasn't done so yet, so there is no reason
to believe in him.
-Woden
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? 13 Dec 2006 03:37:47 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mJCdnRJL-9JRgh3YnZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d@giganews.com...

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:10:52 +0000, Enkidu wrote:

ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) wrote in
news:elntvl$97e$1@theodyn.ncf.ca:

(K): Same reason other couples want children? They think children
will make them a more complete family? They forget that marriage and
children are the primary causes of divorces and custody fights.


My wife and I met in high school, dated through college and beyond. We
were married for nine years before our first child. Now married for
twenty years. I disagree. Immaturity and poverty cause divorce.


Well, actually, marriage rather *is the primary cause of divorce...

<tish boom!>
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
I think religion is so popular because even the village idiot can feel like
Einstein without any effort. - Denis Loubet
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? 13 Dec 2006 06:16:58 PM
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:37:47 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mJCdnRJL-9JRgh3YnZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d@giganews.com...

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:10:52 +0000, Enkidu wrote:

ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) wrote in
news:elntvl$97e$1@theodyn.ncf.ca:

(K): Same reason other couples want children? They think children
will make them a more complete family? They forget that marriage and
children are the primary causes of divorces and custody fights.


My wife and I met in high school, dated through college and beyond. We
were married for nine years before our first child. Now married for
twenty years. I disagree. Immaturity and poverty cause divorce.


Well, actually, marriage rather *is the primary cause of divorce...


<tish boom!>

Tish who?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential of this kind
of world:.... a world in which oil reserves are controlled
by radicals in order to extract blackmail from the West..."
-George Bush
Wait... oil reserves?
.
User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? 13 Dec 2006 07:50:57 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:lIudnfz61thnCh3YnZ2dnUVZ_sDinZ2d@giganews.com:

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:37:47 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mJCdnRJL-9JRgh3YnZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d@giganews.com...

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:10:52 +0000, Enkidu wrote:

ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) wrote in
news:elntvl$97e$1@theodyn.ncf.ca:

(K): Same reason other couples want children? They think children
will make them a more complete family? They forget that marriage

and

children are the primary causes of divorces and custody fights.


My wife and I met in high school, dated through college and beyond.

We

were married for nine years before our first child. Now married for
twenty years. I disagree. Immaturity and poverty cause divorce.


Well, actually, marriage rather *is the primary cause of divorce...


<tish boom!>


Tish who?

Who's tush?
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is
not hereditary."
-Thomas Paine
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? 14 Dec 2006 09:55:30 AM
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 01:50:57 +0000, Enkidu wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:lIudnfz61thnCh3YnZ2dnUVZ_sDinZ2d@giganews.com:

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:37:47 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mJCdnRJL-9JRgh3YnZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d@giganews.com...

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:10:52 +0000, Enkidu wrote:

ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) wrote in
news:elntvl$97e$1@theodyn.ncf.ca:

(K): Same reason other couples want children? They think children
will make them a more complete family? They forget that marriage

and

children are the primary causes of divorces and custody fights.


My wife and I met in high school, dated through college and beyond.

We

were married for nine years before our first child. Now married for
twenty years. I disagree. Immaturity and poverty cause divorce.


Well, actually, marriage rather *is the primary cause of divorce...


<tish boom!>


Tish who?


Who's tush?

Ms. Boom's apparently...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due
to the absence, from Jerusalem, of a lunatic asylum.
-Havelock Ellis
.


User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? 14 Dec 2006 03:03:06 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:lIudnfz61thnCh3YnZ2dnUVZ_sDinZ2d@giganews.com...

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:37:47 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mJCdnRJL-9JRgh3YnZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d@giganews.com...

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:10:52 +0000, Enkidu wrote:

ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) wrote in
news:elntvl$97e$1@theodyn.ncf.ca:

(K): Same reason other couples want children? They think children
will make them a more complete family? They forget that marriage and
children are the primary causes of divorces and custody fights.


My wife and I met in high school, dated through college and beyond. We
were married for nine years before our first child. Now married for
twenty years. I disagree. Immaturity and poverty cause divorce.


Well, actually, marriage rather *is the primary cause of divorce...


<tish boom!>


Tish who?

You spoke french!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
I think religion is so popular because even the village idiot can feel like
Einstein without any effort. - Denis Loubet
.
User: "Randy Day"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? 14 Dec 2006 04:11:48 PM
Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message

[snip

Well, actually, marriage rather *is the primary cause of divorce...


<tish boom!>


Tish who?



You spoke french!

I thought he sneezed...
--
R
Atheist Chair,
EAC Disciplinary Committee
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? 14 Dec 2006 06:52:41 PM
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:11:48 +0000, Randy Day wrote:

Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message


[snip

Well, actually, marriage rather *is the primary cause of divorce...


<tish boom!>


Tish who?



You spoke french!


I thought he sneezed...

There's a difference?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because
if there be one, He must approve the homage of Reason rather
than that of blindfolded Fear"
- Thomas Jefferson
.

User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? 14 Dec 2006 08:40:42 PM
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:11:48 GMT, Randy Day <randy.day@shaw.cax>
wrote:

Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message


[snip

Well, actually, marriage rather *is the primary cause of divorce...


<tish boom!>


Tish who?



You spoke french!


I thought he sneezed...

A votre santé.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
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.







User: ""

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? 14 Dec 2006 08:02:42 PM
On 13 Dec 2006 04:01:57 GMT,
(Karen Gordon)
wrote:

(K): Same reason other couples want children? They think children will
make them a more complete family? They forget that marriage and children
are the primary causes of divorces and custody fights.

Seems like you have forgotten that they are also the primary source of
homosexuals too, sweecake.

""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through
personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue.
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

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If you can read you can learn for there are people smarter than you
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User: "an_old_friend"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? stop lying syaing I eat your ***** 14 Dec 2006 08:41:09 PM
wrote:

On 13 Dec 2006 04:01:57 GMT,

(Karen Gordon)
wrote:

(K): Same reason other couples want children? They think children will

stop lying syaing I eat your *****

make them a more complete family? They forget that marriage and children
are the primary causes of divorces and custody fights.


Seems like you have forgotten that they are also the primary source of
homosexuals too, sweecake.

""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through
personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue.
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you can read you can learn for there are people smarter than you
who can both read and write.

stop lying syaing I eat your *****
.
User: ""

Title: you will have all seen the rsults today of K4YZ obessive stalking of 14 Dec 2006 08:42:32 PM
On 14 Dec 2006 18:41:09 -0800, "an_old_friend" <kb9rqz69@hotmail.com>
wrote:


you will have all seen the rsults today of K4YZ obessive stalking of
Myself One KB9RQZ
as I said more than a year ago I would not stand for the constant
libel of Robeson and few other in NG for more than year we have been
"treated" to steve effort to wera me down under his torrent of filth
and lies
whe n I saw 100 plus posts on this subject from obviously I could
answer them indivualy, unlike Robeson I have life
I may have steamrolled over something other than steve diatribe if I
steamrooled over you missing your content for this I am sorry
this message will be sent multitime in hope in may survive
following is at this point is the cut and paste at it full measure bit
got afdded as I noted charged made again that I wished to adress
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morkie, I will conceed that you know two things that I will never
know...What it's like to lick my excrement off of another man's
genitals, and the going welfare rates in Michigan. steve goes claiming
othermen eat his *****
stop the lying stop the vandalism and stop the bull at this point my
server say you have post 8o plus itme titled with ***** or a synoym in
the title
stop lying syaing I eat your *****
stop lying about being miiss quoted
get a life and get help since you are clearly obessed with staking a
man sexualy
the truth I trick you in 1998 when you thrented to MURDER me
stop this whining and face facts you are the one that is sick with
your obesstion for *****
the ruth is you are truly MAD robeson get help
and please stop the lie I have seen that you are doing ANYTHING for my
benifit
and stop lying about the ToS of Google they expressly prohibit your
cyvervandalism
and stop lying about my Military service I have my DD 214 as I guess
you do likely yours list section 8 as reason for discharge
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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User: "Geoffrey Lin"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? stop lying syaing I eat your ***** 15 Dec 2006 12:29:13 AM
What kind of stupid ***** (excuse the language, people like this
make me angry) is wondering whether gays would want children. I myself
am bisexual, and I want children. In fact, I have a lovely child who
has my face and my wife's body. It's apart of evolution. Are you
stupid?
an_old_friend wrote:

kb9rqz@amsat.org wrote:

On 13 Dec 2006 04:01:57 GMT,

(Karen Gordon)
wrote:

(K): Same reason other couples want children? They think children will


stop lying syaing I eat your *****

make them a more complete family? They forget that marriage and children
are the primary causes of divorces and custody fights.


Seems like you have forgotten that they are also the primary source of
homosexuals too, sweecake.

""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through
personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue.
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you can read you can learn for there are people smarter than you
who can both read and write.

stop lying syaing I eat your *****

.
User: ""

Title: gaybasher 15 Dec 2006 12:40:01 AM
On 14 Dec 2006 22:29:13 -0800, "Geoffrey Lin" <geoflin@gmail.com>
wrote:

What kind of stupid ***** (excuse the language, people like this
make me angry) is wondering whether gays would want children. I myself
am bisexual, and I want children. In fact, I have a lovely child who
has my face and my wife's body. It's apart of evolution. Are you
stupid?

the ***** in question is most likely
AB8MQ
http://www.qrz.com/detail/AB8MQ
or even more likely K4YZ
http://www.qrz.com/detail/K4YZ
the latter has been enagage for the past 8 years in stalking and
threatening ME Mark Morgan Robeson, K4YZ has also otried to oblackmail
over my sexual orientation, and then grew enraged when in resp[nse I
outed myself as bisexaul in one of the radio NG you have been
crossposted to
is the poster (who trying to forge an ID of mine) stupid? I don't know
I do know he is apthological hatred of Bisexuals insisting mywife s
male and that I am must a child molestors in not getting support in
the NG I have been posting he trolls in various gruops to hook a
someone like you in





an_old_friend wrote:

kb9rqz@amsat.org wrote:

http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/
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User: "an_old_friend"

Title: Re: Why would 'gays' want children? stop lying syaing I eat your ***** 15 Dec 2006 10:55:50 AM
morkie wanna boy?
an_old_friend wrote:

kb9rqz@amsat.org wrote:

On 13 Dec 2006 04:01:57 GMT,

(Karen Gordon)
wrote:

(K): Same reason other couples want children? They think children will


stop lying syaing I eat your *****

make them a more complete family? They forget that marriage and children
are the primary causes of divorces and custody fights.


Seems like you have forgotten that they are also the primary source of
homosexuals too, sweecake.

""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through
personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue.
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you can read you can learn for there are people smarter than you
who can both read and write.

stop lying syaing I eat your *****

.




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