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"Petrazickis" |
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06 Apr 2004 10:26:43 PM |
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Re: Will Kerry Be The First Excommunicated President ? |
Null Zero wrote:
http://www.time.com/time/election2004/article/0,18471,605436,00.html
A Test of Kerry's Faith
The candidate's policies are at odds with church canon. Will there be a
price to pay?
Paul Martin and Jean Chretien are still incommunicated with no
excommunication on the horizon. Kerry is far more right wing than even
Martin. I don't expect an excommunication.
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Leons Petrazickis
import java.lang.Disclaimer;
http://slashdot.org/~LPetrazickis/journal/
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| User: "Brandon" |
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| Title: Re: Will Kerry Be The First Excommunicated President ? |
12 Apr 2004 11:14:53 PM |
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Petrazickis wrote:
Null Zero wrote:
http://www.time.com/time/election2004/article/0,18471,605436,00.html
A Test of Kerry's Faith
The candidate's policies are at odds with church canon. Will there be a
price to pay?
Paul Martin and Jean Chretien are still incommunicated with no
excommunication on the horizon. Kerry is far more right wing than even
Martin. I don't expect an excommunication.
I don't either.
I do think it's interesting that 40 years ago, when we had
our first (and so far only) Catholic president, the big fear
among some people was that he would follow the Pope's orders
rather than act in the interests of the U.S. Now it's
turned around, at least a little: Sen. Kerry is being
criticized for *not* accepting the Pope's teachings.
Having said that, it's a fair criticism to make of Kerry.
He has traded on his Catholicism and allowed people to
believe he was of Irish descent in order to advance his
political career for at least a generation, while running
for office in a state where Irish Catholics are a large and
important voting block. Now that he's running for
*national* office, he has suddenly "discovered" he has
Jewish ancestry. But he's still Catholic, of course -- he
just doesn't follow a lot of the most important tenets of
his church.
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| User: "Gomez Addams" |
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| Title: Re: Will Kerry Be The First Excommunicated President ? |
13 Apr 2004 06:07:03 AM |
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"Brandon" <jchance@avalon.net> wrote
Having said that, it's a fair criticism to make of Kerry.
He has traded on his Catholicism and allowed people to
believe he was of Irish descent in order to advance his
political career for at least a generation, while running
for office in a state where Irish Catholics are a large and
important voting block. Now that he's running for
*national* office, he has suddenly "discovered" he has
Jewish ancestry. But he's still Catholic, of course -- he
just doesn't follow a lot of the most important tenets of
his church.
He's no more Catholic than my hamster. In the eyes of Rome he must
surely be a heretic.
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Will Kerry Be The First Excommunicated President ? |
13 Apr 2004 08:24:58 AM |
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Gomez Addams wrote:
"Brandon" <jchance@avalon.net> wrote
Having said that, it's a fair criticism to make of Kerry.
He has traded on his Catholicism and allowed people to
believe he was of Irish descent in order to advance his
political career for at least a generation, while running
for office in a state where Irish Catholics are a large and
important voting block. Now that he's running for
*national* office, he has suddenly "discovered" he has
Jewish ancestry. But he's still Catholic, of course -- he
just doesn't follow a lot of the most important tenets of
his church.
He's no more Catholic than my hamster. In the eyes of Rome he must
surely be a heretic.
In the eyes of Rome, every US president other than Kennedy was a heretic.
After all, they were all Protestants.
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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| Title: Re: Will Kerry Be The First Excommunicated President ? |
13 Apr 2004 09:09:02 AM |
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In the eyes of Rome, every US president other than Kennedy was a heretic.
After all, they were all Protestants.
Not all. The first half dozen presidents weren't even Christians.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "Shan" |
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| Title: Re: Will Kerry Be The First Excommunicated President ? |
13 Apr 2004 11:06:43 AM |
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Brandon <jchance@avalon.net> wrote in message news:<c5fvrn$jd$11@narsil.avalon.net>...
Petrazickis wrote:
I do think it's interesting that 40 years ago, when we had
our first (and so far only) Catholic president, the big fear
among some people was that he would follow the Pope's orders
rather than act in the interests of the U.S. Now it's
turned around, at least a little: Sen. Kerry is being
criticized for *not* accepting the Pope's teachings.
Having said that, it's a fair criticism to make of Kerry.
He has traded on his Catholicism and allowed people to
believe he was of Irish descent in order to advance his
political career for at least a generation, while running
Any Catholic, Protestant or Jew in public office who follows the
directives of his religious leader should be removed from office.
Public officials answer to secular laws and the legislature. When/if
they receive their instructions from other sources they cease to be
fit to occupy their civil office.
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| User: "LanaXZR" |
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| Title: Re: Will Kerry Be The First Excommunicated President ? |
13 Apr 2004 10:01:06 AM |
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Brandon wrote:
I do think it's interesting that 40 years ago, when we had
our first (and so far only) Catholic president, the big fear
among some people was that he would follow the Pope's orders
rather than act in the interests of the U.S. Now it's
turned around, at least a little: Sen. Kerry is being
criticized for *not* accepting the Pope's teachings.
Having said that, it's a fair criticism to make of Kerry.
He has traded on his Catholicism and allowed people to
believe he was of Irish descent in order to advance his
political career for at least a generation, while running
for office in a state where Irish Catholics are a large and
important voting block. Now that he's running for
*national* office, he has suddenly "discovered" he has
Jewish ancestry. But he's still Catholic, of course -- he
just doesn't follow a lot of the most important tenets of
his church.
But Bush enthusiastically supports the death penalty and invaded Iraq after the
pope asked him not to - I guess there's no good choice for a good Catholic
this time.
Lana (who would be grateful if all people who vote the way their religions tell
them stay home this election day)
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