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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Carol Lee Smith"
Date: 20 May 2005 06:57:04 PM
Object: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm
On Fri, 20 May 2005, Kenneth Pangborn, once again attributing to
someone something they did not say wrote:

"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050520134816.32605I-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...

MADISON, Wis. - Republican lawmakers are asking an Arizona-based
Christian legal firm to represent the Legislature in fighting a
lawsuit that seeks benefits for partners of gay state workers.

KP> >> God
cs > > Which one would that be?
KP> >> knows that the government should NOT be allowed to hire

a Christian!

cs> > Who says?
KP> YOU SAY...
You will never get into heaven with so many notches on your list of lies,
Kenny.
I did not say.

Otherwise why bring it up? Not so clever Carol, BUT deniable.

Go ahead, Ken. Prove I said anything of the sort.
http://www.cafepress.com/pansy12
.

User: "=krp"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 20 May 2005 08:45:46 PM
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050520185230.14970B-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...

MADISON, Wis. - Republican lawmakers are asking an Arizona-based
Christian legal firm to represent the Legislature in fighting a
lawsuit that seeks benefits for partners of gay state workers.

KP> >> knows that the government should NOT be allowed to hire a
Christian!

cs> > Who says?

KP> YOU SAY...

You will never get into heaven with so many notches on your list of lies,
Kenny.

I did not say.

Otherwise why bring it up? Not so clever Carol, BUT deniable.


Go ahead, Ken. Prove I said anything of the sort.

Carol why ***** about it if you didn't intend that the State should NOT
have hired them? WHY would it be worth commenting on Carol? STOP your
disingenuous ***** for once. What would we all conclude if someone wrote
something similar about a Black law firm? Your reason for posting this was
OBVIOUS CAROL. Nobody misses your HATRED of Christians in general Catholics
in specific. You can't disown years of attacks on the Milwaukee archdiocese
and bitching about school vouchers.
.
User: "Carol Lee Smith"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 24 May 2005 07:50:59 AM
On Sat, 21 May 2005, =krp wrote:

"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050520185230.14970B-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...

MADISON, Wis. - Republican lawmakers are asking an Arizona-based
Christian legal firm to represent the Legislature in fighting a
lawsuit that seeks benefits for partners of gay state workers.

KP> >> knows that the government should NOT be allowed to hire a
Christian!
cs> > Who says?
KP> YOU SAY...
You will never get into heaven with so many notches on your list of lies,
Kenny.
I did not say.

Otherwise why bring it up? Not so clever Carol, BUT deniable.

Go ahead, Ken. Prove I said anything of the sort.

Carol why ***** about it if you didn't intend that the State should NOT
have hired them?

Erroneous assumption that posting an informative article is "BITCHing."
You seem to do that a lot.

WHY would it be worth commenting on Carol?

Exactly what "comment" of mine are YOU bitching about?

STOP your disingenuous ***** for once.

Attributing to others what they did not do and/or did not say, IMHO falls
into the category of "disingenous *****."

What would we all conclude if someone wrote
something similar about a Black law firm?

What have "we" "concluded" about this particular instance?

Your reason for posting this was OBVIOUS CAROL.

Your [just one more] erroneous assumption is noted.

Nobody misses your HATRED of Christians in general Catholics
in specific. You can't disown years of attacks on the
Milwaukee archdiocese and bitching about school vouchers.

Oh, please do post examples of my "HATRED of Christians in general
Catholics in specific."
And do include examples of any "attacks on the Milwaukee archdiocese and
bitching about school vouchers."
I am sure folks would like to be reminded!!
http://www.cafepress.com/pansy12
.
User: "Mark Mathu"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 16 Jun 2005 01:52:08 AM
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote...

Lawmakers aren't a party in the lawsuit. But ADF attorney Glen
Lavy said he will make a role for them by inserting them as
co-defendants along with the state.

Well now... that doesn't seem very smart.
.

User: "Carol Lee Smith"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 25 May 2005 12:11:11 PM
On Tue, 24 May 2005, Kenneth Pangborn, aka "krp" wrote:

"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050524074338.24930A-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...
Calling up your EMERGENCY RESERVES in the Atheism newsgroup again I
see...........

The topic certainly warrants posting it there, especially since you have
made it out to be an attack of the sort you have.
I posted an article from the news which was not an attack of any sort.

MADISON, Wis. - Republican lawmakers are asking an Arizona-based
Christian legal firm to represent the Legislature in fighting a
lawsuit that seeks benefits for partners of gay state workers.

KP> >everyone knows that the government should NOT be allowed to hire a
Christian!
cs> > Who says?
KP> YOU SAY...
You will never get into heaven with so many notches on your list of
lies, Kenny.
I did not say:

Otherwise why bring it up? Not so clever Carol, BUT deniable.

Go ahead, Ken. Prove I said anything of the sort.

Which Kenny Pangborn has not been able to do.

Carol why ***** about it if you didn't intend that the State should NOT
have hired them?

Erroneous assumption that posting an informative article is "BITCHing."


No carol no error on MY part at all.

It certainly was not "BITCHing." It was the sharing of an article about a
WI happening.

Just a continuation of your not so clever *****
if trying to disown the things you say and do.

I have not tried to disown anything. Provide a direct quote. Go ahead.
Address the issues, and provide a referent for your false accusation.

Carol after all thes eyears I certainly have,

The archives record what you "certainly have" said.

and so have most other folks, gotten used to your
act of "PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT WOMAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN act.

What is that supposed to mean?

WHY would it be worth commenting on Carol?


Exactly what "comment" of mine are YOU bitching about?


The hring of a "CHRISTIAN" owned law firm.

I didn't make any comment. I posted a media article.

WHY should that be noteable IF you weren't bitching about it???

Folks share articles in usenet all the time, often posting information via
news articles about stuff which they approve. I think your crystal ball
with which you try to interpret such occurrences is cracked.

After all SEPAZRATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, right Carol?


Is that an issue here?

STOP your disingenuous ***** for once.

Attributing to others what they did not do and/or did not say, IMHO falls
into the category of "disingenous *****."

Carol if there is ANYTHING disingenuous here is is your feeble attempts
to deny your motives for posting that *****!

What about it was "*****"? What nefarious motive does your crystal ball
indicate?

It's not like your HATRED for Christians in general and Catholics in

specific is any kind of closely guarded secret.>>
Examples to support your false claim are necessary if you intend to
convince anyone that I hate Christians or Catholics. It is not a closely
guarded secret that many of my friends and family are Christians and/or
Catholics.

You only deny it when you are trying to play Polly Prim. A
role that doesn't suit you at all.

Tut, tut.
No examples of that either?

What would we all conclude if someone wrote
something similar about a Black law firm?


What have "we" "concluded" about this particular instance?


I concluded it was more of your legendary religious bigotry.

Of which you have absolutely no examples. Interesting.

Your reason for posting this was OBVIOUS CAROL.

Your [just one more] erroneous assumption is noted.


I am sorry Carol - I see you behind the curtain and
your pretense is merely annoying.

As I said, your crystal ball is cracked. So are your super-duper
see-through-the-curtain spectacles/

Nobody misses your HATRED of Christians in general Catholics
in specific. You can't disown years of attacks on the
Milwaukee archdiocese and bitching about school vouchers.


Oh, please do post examples of my "HATRED of Christians in general
Catholics in specific."

Still no examples? Kenny!! Folks will think you go around making
unsupported claims. What a pity.

And do include examples of any "attacks on the Milwaukee archdiocese and
bitching about school vouchers."

Why Carol?

Because when folks make unsupported claims it is like the boy who cried
wolf. To accuse others of what they did not do is lying. As I previously
suggested, perhaps you should be concerned about such unconscionable
lying. Your mortal soul is in peril, from what I understand about your
religion and its view of sin.

When I do you merely wait a couple days and deny I ever posted
the references. I am tired of your games.

I think you are going to need a resource to fortify your supply cabinet:
http://www.catholicsupply.com/christmas/othersports.html
http://www.cafepress.com/pansy12
.
User: " krp"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 25 May 2005 02:12:41 PM
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050525115313.24498F-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...


Calling up your EMERGENCY RESERVES in the Atheism newsgroup again I
see...........


The topic certainly warrants posting it there, especially since you have
made it out to be an attack of the sort you have.

TRANSLATION: HELP HELP HELP CAROL NEEDS HELP REINFORCEMENTS HELP HELP HEL
SOS SOS MAYDAY MATDAY MAYDAY

I posted an article from the news which was not an attack of any sort.

Oh yeah poor innocent Carol ansolutely NOT motive for posting it. NONE!
Carol WHY must you treat the rest of the world as STUPID?

MADISON, Wis. - Republican lawmakers are asking an
Arizona-based
Christian legal firm to represent the Legislature in fighting a
lawsuit that seeks benefits for partners of gay state workers.

KP> >everyone knows that the government should NOT be allowed to
hire a
Christian!


cs> > Who says?


KP> YOU SAY...


You will never get into heaven with so many notches on your list of
lies, Kenny.


I did not say:


Otherwise why bring it up? Not so clever Carol, BUT deniable.


Go ahead, Ken. Prove I said anything of the sort.

Which Kenny Pangborn has not been able to do.

You make nutty claims and then say *I* must prove yopur insane *****
wrong. Your post stands on your own as does your stupid attempt to deny the
really transparent motive for posting it.

Carol why ***** about it if you didn't intend that the State should
NOT
have hired them?

Erroneous assumption that posting an informative article is "BITCHing."

No carol no error on MY part at all.

It certainly was not "BITCHing." It was the sharing of an article about a
WI happening.

WHY on Earth is such an event worthy of comment Carol? Your disingenuous
***** wears thin after a couple of years of reading it.

Just a continuation of your not so clever ***** if trying to disown
the things you say and do.

I have not tried to disown anything. Provide a direct quote. Go ahead.
Address the issues, and provide a referent for your false accusation.

Oh Carol cut the crap. You posted the story because you were opposed to
the State hring a "Christian" law firm. I place that up with it being a
Black Law firm, or Female law firm. People who post that crap have one of
two agendas. Either they are BITTERLY opposed to the state having hired then
BECAUSE they are "Christians." or they ARE Christians and are thrilled that
they were hired. For the 99.9999999% of the rest of the world it isn't worth
the ffort to collect such an article and post it to Usenet. Since ev erypone
KNOWS that you go into conculsions about "Christians" we can assume that you
were NOT "thrilled" that this "Christian" law firm was hired. Your denials
are just you own special brand of dishonesty Carol.

Carol after all thes eyears I certainly have,

The archives record what you "certainly have" said.

And for the most part you too Carol. Your palpable animosity toward
Christianity is hard to miss.

and so have most other folks, gotten used to your
act of "PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT WOMAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN act.

What is that supposed to mean?

Just what it says Carol Your behavior is very transparent. When people
comment on that transparency you go into these wild tangents of *****
trying to deny it. You rant and rail against Christians on one thread and in
another try to play the role of Pollyana. It is more than a little
off-putting.

WHY would it be worth commenting on Carol?

Exactly what "comment" of mine are YOU bitching about?

The hring of a "CHRISTIAN" owned law firm.

I didn't make any comment. I posted a media article.

Oh hell Carol even the posting of it speaks for itself. WHY post it at
all if you weren't OPPOSED to it???

WHY should that be noteable IF you weren't bitching about it???

Folks share articles in usenet all the time, often posting information via
news articles about stuff which they approve. I think your crystal ball
with which you try to interpret such occurrences is cracked.

Sure we share articles when they are NEWSWORTHY.. Do people rush out to
post an article like this:?
SHEBOYGAN (AP) Joseph Smith put on a pair of socks this morning ay 7:10 AM.
They were Argyle socks. Mr. SMith is very punctiual in putting on argyle
socks ever morning at precisely 7:10 AM.
No Carol nobody would give a crap.

After all SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, right Carol?


Is that an issue here?

It always IS for YOU. Seems to m,ake your blood boil a bit.

STOP your disingenuous ***** for once.

Attributing to others what they did not do and/or did not say, IMHO
falls
into the category of "disingenous *****."

Carol if there is ANYTHING disingenuous here is is your feeble attempts
to deny your motives for posting that *****!

What about it was "*****"? What nefarious motive does your crystal ball
indicate?

Why is the fact that the Law Firm is made up of Christians such a big
deal that it needs to be poste don Usenet?

It's not like your HATRED for Christians in general and Catholics in

specific is any kind of closely guarded secret.
Examples to support your false claim are necessary if you intend to
convince anyone that I hate Christians or Catholics. It is not a closely
guarded secret that many of my friends and family are Christians and/or
Catholics.

Yeah I know. When I worked with ICDP on 3rd and North I got to hear lots
of white folks say; "some of my best friends are darkies." Both I and the
black people I worked with were VERY impressed. No, I think STGUNNED would
be the word. Carol you come accross as being AS genuine with your regards
for Catholics as Adolph Eichman would be ar a Bar Mitzvah telling us about
all HIS Jewish friends!

You only deny it when you are trying to play Polly Prim. A
role that doesn't suit you at all.


Tut, tut.

TUT TUT NOTHIN' BUT BUTTERNUT BREAD!

No examples of that either?

Years worth Carol.

What would we all conclude if someone wrote
something similar about a Black law firm?

What have "we" "concluded" about this particular instance?

I concluded it was more of your legendary religious bigotry.

Of which you have absolutely no examples. Interesting.

Sorry Carol I have played the game of step and fetchit for you before. I
post thje examples, you ignore them for a couple days and then INSIST I
never posted anything.
Your games are tiring. So I play my way.

Your reason for posting this was OBVIOUS CAROL.

Your [just one more] erroneous assumption is noted.

I am sorry Carol - I see you behind the curtain and
your pretense is merely annoying.


As I said, your crystal ball is cracked. So are your super-duper
see-through-the-curtain spectacles/

Nobody misses your HATRED of Christians in general Catholics
in specific. You can't disown years of attacks on the
Milwaukee archdiocese and bitching about school vouchers.


Oh, please do post examples of my "HATRED of Christians in general
Catholics in specific."

Still no examples? Kenny!! Folks will think you go around making
unsupported claims. What a pity.

All they have to do is look you up on Google Carol and go back a few
years when you were BITCHING ENDLESSLY about Messmer High School and the
VOUCHERS!

And do include examples of any "attacks on the Milwaukee archdiocese
and
bitching about school vouchers."

Why Carol?

Because when folks make unsupported claims it is like the boy who cried
wolf. To accuse others of what they did not do is lying. As I previously
suggested, perhaps you should be concerned about such unconscionable
lying. Your mortal soul is in peril, from what I understand about your
religion and its view of sin.

Carol did you notice anything? Let me let you in on MY little game for a
change. You do SO love to be in CONTROL of things and your combat where you
believe you have WON... Did you notice what I did to you? When I tell you -
you'll get pissed. With your track record with such posts it was not hard to
know where you wanted to go with it, attacking the state hiring a
"CHRISTIAN" law firm (SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE) but Carol you didn't
get to display your outrage because I took your little toy away from you and
made you try to deny your REAL agenda. So now you CAN'T go where you wanted
because you have just spent TWO WEEKS vehemently denying that was your
purpose.
Carol you see yourself as this GIANT GIANT intellect... It's like taking
candy from a baby, your arrogance always trips you up.
.
User: "Carol Lee Smith"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 25 May 2005 09:05:51 PM
On Wed, 25 May 2005, Kenneth Pangborn, aka "krp" wrote:

"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050525115313.24498F-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...

Calling up your EMERGENCY RESERVES in the Atheism newsgroup again I
see...........

The topic certainly warrants posting it there, especially since you have
made it out to be an attack of the sort you have.

TRANSLATION: HELP HELP HELP CAROL NEEDS HELP REINFORCEMENTS HELP HELP HEL
SOS SOS MAYDAY MATDAY MAYDAY

You are just full of erroneous assumptions and faulty crystal-ball
interpretations.

I posted an article from the news which was not an attack of any sort.

Oh yeah poor innocent Carol ansolutely NOT motive for posting it. NONE!
Carol WHY must you treat the rest of the world as STUPID?

Stupid is assuming you know the motives of others. Stupid is lying.
You win. How many Hail Marys will you have to say to get forgiveness for
your lies?

MADISON, Wis. - Republican lawmakers are asking an
Arizona-based
Christian legal firm to represent the Legislature in fighting a
lawsuit that seeks benefits for partners of gay state workers.

KP> >everyone knows that the government should NOT be allowed to
hire a Christian!
cs> > Who says?
KP> YOU SAY...
You will never get into heaven with so many notches on your list of
lies, Kenny.
I did not say:

Otherwise why bring it up? Not so clever Carol, BUT deniable.

Go ahead, Ken. Prove I said anything of the sort.

Which Kenny Pangborn has not been able to do.


You make nutty claims and then say *I* must prove
yopur insane ***** wrong.

Any claims I make I provide a referent for them. If I quote you has
having said "X," I provide links and direct quotes.
You haven't even identified this "insane *****," let alone provided a
direct quote.

Your post stands on your own as does your stupid attempt to deny the
really transparent motive for posting it.

There you go again. Don't quit your day job, if you have one, because as
a mind reader, your attempts are dismal.

Carol why ***** about it if you didn't intend that the State should
NOT have hired them?

Erroneous assumption that posting an informative article is "BITCHing."

No carol no error on MY part at all.

It certainly was not "BITCHing." It was the
sharing of an article about a WI happening.

WHY on Earth is such an event worthy of comment Carol? Your disingenuous
***** wears thin after a couple of years of reading it.

Why on earth must your approval be obtained before someone posts
something. Are you the grand poobah of who can post what?

Just a continuation of your not so clever ***** if trying to disown
the things you say and do.


I have not tried to disown anything. Provide a direct quote. Go ahead.
Address the issues, and provide a referent for your false accusation.

Oh Carol cut the crap.

Translation: "Can't find one; none exist, so I can't post any."

You posted the story because you were opposed to
the State hring a "Christian" law firm.

Your erroneous assumption is noted. Get a new crystal ball. Or try tea
leaves. It might improve your luck.

I place that up with it being a
Black Law firm, or Female law firm.

Go ahead. Place it where you would like to.

People who post that crap have one of two agendas.

What crap? What was crap. Why was it crap?

Either they are BITTERLY opposed to the state having hired then
BECAUSE they are "Christians."

Says Swami Kenneth Pangborn.

or they ARE Christians and are thrilled that they were hired.

Says Swami Kenneth Pangborn.

For the 99.9999999% of the rest of the world it isn't worth the ffort
to collect such an article and post it to Usenet. Since ev erypone
KNOWS that you go into conculsions about "Christians" we can assume
that you were NOT "thrilled" that this "Christian" law firm was hired.
Your denials are just you own special brand of dishonesty Carol.

You are a Christian, I assume. I make no erroneous assumptions about you.
I base any assumptions upon what you have written, and when I do, I am
able to quote them.

Carol after all thes eyears I certainly have,

The archives record what you "certainly have" said.


And for the most part you too Carol.

If that is the case, why is it so hard to find a direct quotation to prove
your allegations?

Your palpable animosity toward Christianity is hard to miss.


If that is the case, just provide proof.

and so have most other folks, gotten used to your
act of "PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT WOMAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN act.


What is that supposed to mean?


Just what it says Carol Your behavior is very transparent. When people
comment on that transparency you go into these wild tangents of *****
trying to deny it.

Unfortunately, you have failed to give any examples of any behavior or
writing which proves your allegations.

You rant and rail against Christians on one thread and in
another try to play the role of Pollyana. It is more than a little
off-putting.

Examples of this ranting and railing?
Come on, Kenny. Prove it.

WHY would it be worth commenting on Carol?

Exactly what "comment" of mine are YOU bitching about?


The hring of a "CHRISTIAN" owned law firm.


I didn't make any comment. I posted a media article.


Oh hell Carol even the posting of it speaks for itself.
WHY post it at all if you weren't OPPOSED to it???

Why not post it? It is WI news about a WI happening. You know I have
posted articles about things which I am not or was not opposed to. The
archives are full of such examples--examples of articles regarding things
of which I approve(d) of wholeheartedly. That disproves your theory.

WHY should that be noteable IF you weren't bitching about it???

Folks share articles in usenet all the time, often posting information via
news articles about stuff which they approve. I think your crystal ball
with which you try to interpret such occurrences is cracked.


Sure we share articles when they are NEWSWORTHY..

Your opinion of what is newsworthy is of no interest to me.

Do people rush out to post an article like this:?
SHEBOYGAN (AP) Joseph Smith put on a pair of socks this morning ay 7:10 AM.
They were Argyle socks. Mr. SMith is very punctiual in putting on argyle
socks ever morning at precisely 7:10 AM.

Do tell.

No Carol nobody would give a crap.

Except you. You posted it.

After all SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, right Carol?

Is that an issue here?

It always IS for YOU. Seems to m,ake your blood boil a bit.

So, you read minds, make erroneous assumptions AND do blood-pressure
readings by remote sensing abilities.
My, my. You should patent that talent and market it.

STOP your disingenuous ***** for once.

Attributing to others what they did not do and/or did not say, IMHO
falls into the category of "disingenous *****."

Carol if there is ANYTHING disingenuous here is is your feeble attempts
to deny your motives for posting that *****!

What about it was "*****"? What nefarious motive
does your crystal ball indicate?

Why is the fact that the Law Firm is made up of Christians such a big
deal that it needs to be poste don Usenet?

It was a news article about a WI issue which was posted without comment.
No one said it was a big deal. No one made a big deal about it
except you, as the archives prove. You are the one who is carrying on and
trying to impose your standard of what is appropriate to post.
I don't care what you think is appropriate.

It's not like your HATRED for Christians in general and Catholics in

specific is any kind of closely guarded secret.
Examples to support your false claim are necessary if you intend to
convince anyone that I hate Christians or Catholics. It is not a closely
guarded secret that many of my friends and family are Christians and/or
Catholics.

Yeah I know. When I worked with ICDP on 3rd and North I got to hear lots
of white folks say; "some of my best friends are darkies." Both I and the
black people I worked with were VERY impressed. No, I think STGUNNED would
be the word. Carol you come accross as being AS genuine with your regards
for Catholics as Adolph Eichman would be ar a Bar Mitzvah telling us about
all HIS Jewish friends!

You are welcome to express your opinion, but I am not interested in your
opinion or your congerings.

You only deny it when you are trying to play Polly Prim. A
role that doesn't suit you at all.

Tut, tut.

TUT TUT NOTHIN' BUT BUTTERNUT BREAD!

No examples of that either?


Years worth Carol.

Then just provide proof. Why are you so inept at providing evidence,
being so familiar with the law and such.

What would we all conclude if someone wrote
something similar about a Black law firm?

What have "we" "concluded" about this particular instance?

I concluded it was more of your legendary religious bigotry.

Of which you have absolutely no examples. Interesting.

Sorry Carol

You keep saying "sorry." Ya know, I believe that part. You really are
sorry.

I have played the game of step and fetchit for you before. I post
thje examples, you ignore them for a couple days and then INSIST I
never posted anything. Your games are tiring. So I play my way.

Go ahead. It is no surprise to anyone who read claims you make that you
can't substantiate them. And most folks can figure out it is because
there is no proof because your allegations are false.

Your reason for posting this was OBVIOUS CAROL.

Your [just one more] erroneous assumption is noted.


I am sorry Carol - I see you behind the curtain and
your pretense is merely annoying.

As I said, your crystal ball is cracked. So are your super-duper
see-through-the-curtain spectacles/

Nobody misses your HATRED of Christians in general Catholics
in specific. You can't disown years of attacks on the
Milwaukee archdiocese and bitching about school vouchers.

Oh, please do post examples of my "HATRED of Christians in general
Catholics in specific."


Still no examples? Kenny!! Folks will think you go around making
unsupported claims. What a pity.


All they have to do is look you up on Google Carol and go back a few
years when you were BITCHING ENDLESSLY about Messmer High School and the
VOUCHERS!

Just post what wasn't true or what was erroneous or what was
unsubstantiated.
Google is your friend.
Before May 2005, one message regarding Messmer can be attributed to me.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/milw.general/browse_frm/thread/93e68cec03b64c65/e91d55dff049b743?q=Messmer+carol+smith&rnum=1&hl=en#e91d55dff049b743
Read it to see if that proves your false allegations. It doesn't.

And do include examples of any "attacks on the Milwaukee archdiocese
and bitching about school vouchers."

Why Carol?

Because when folks make unsupported claims it is like the boy who cried
wolf. To accuse others of what they did not do is lying. As I previously
suggested, perhaps you should be concerned about such unconscionable
lying. Your mortal soul is in peril, from what I understand about your
religion and its view of sin.

Carol did you notice anything? Let me let you in on MY little game for a
change. You do SO love to be in CONTROL of things and your combat where you
believe you have WON... Did you notice what I did to you? When I tell you -
you'll get pissed. With your track record with such posts it was not hard
to know where you wanted to go with it, attacking the state hiring a
"CHRISTIAN" law firm (SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE) but Carol you didn't
get to display your outrage because I took your little toy away from you and
made you try to deny your REAL agenda. So now you CAN'T go where you wanted
because you have just spent TWO WEEKS vehemently denying that was your
purpose.

Sounds like congering to me, Kenny, and time sure flies when you are
having fun. I posted the article on May 20. This is may 25. So, you are
wrong once again.

Carol you see yourself as this GIANT GIANT intellect... It's like taking
candy from a baby, your arrogance always trips you up.

Your crystal ball is totally out of whack. Your mind reading skills
stink.
You may provide any evidence that I see myself as "this GIANT GIANT
intellect." I have never, ever said any such thing.
Perhaps there might be a replacement for your crystal ball here:
http://www.catholicsupply.com/christmas/othersports.html
http://www.cafepress.com/pansy12
.
User: " krp"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 26 May 2005 06:49:50 AM
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050525202840.30702B-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...


Calling up your EMERGENCY RESERVES in the Atheism newsgroup again I
see...........


The topic certainly warrants posting it there, especially since you
have
made it out to be an attack of the sort you have.


TRANSLATION: HELP HELP HELP CAROL NEEDS HELP REINFORCEMENTS HELP HELP
HELP
SOS SOS MAYDAY MATDAY MAYDAY


You are just full of erroneous assumptions and faulty crystal-ball
interpretations.

HSWELP HELP CALLING ALL ATHEISTS EMERGENCY CAROL NEEDS HELP! SOS SOS SOS
MAYDAY MAYDAY! ALL RESERVISTS REPORT TO YOUR DUTY STATIONS! MAYDAY MAYDAY
MAYDAY!!!! ALL HANDS ON DECK MAN YOUR BATTLE STATIONS!!!
<<SNICKER - Carol you are SO damn transparent when yout hink you are being
clever?>>

I posted an article from the news which was not an attack of any sort.

Oh yeah poor innocent Carol ansolutely NOT motive for posting it. NONE!
Carol WHY must you treat the rest of the world as STUPID?

Stupid is assuming you know the motives of others. Stupid is lying.

Yes you are. You know and I know and so does anyone else who has read
your forthing ***** for the past 5 years Carol.

You win. How many Hail Marys will you have to say to get forgiveness for
your lies?

Trying to show me that you do NOT hate Catholicism again Carol????????

MADISON, Wis. - Republican lawmakers are asking an
Arizona-based
Christian legal firm to represent the Legislature in
fighting a
lawsuit that seeks benefits for partners of gay state
workers.


KP> >everyone knows that the government should NOT be allowed to
hire a Christian!


cs> > Who says?


KP> YOU SAY...


You will never get into heaven with so many notches on your list
of
lies, Kenny.


I did not say:


Otherwise why bring it up? Not so clever Carol, BUT deniable.


Go ahead, Ken. Prove I said anything of the sort.


Which Kenny Pangborn has not been able to do.

You make nutty claims and then say *I* must prove your insane *****
wrong.

Any claims I make I provide a referent for them. If I quote you has
having said "X," I provide links and direct quotes.

Ah there we are with the REFERENTS again. Caro it is often WHO you
choose to quote that sends the messages.

You haven't even identified this "insane *****," let alone provided a
direct quote.

Carol "insane *****" applies to just about 90% of the idiotic things
you say. But you think you are GIFTED...

Your post stands on your own as does your stupid attempt to deny the
really transparent motive for posting it.

There you go again. Don't quit your day job, if you have one, because as
a mind reader, your attempts are dismal.

Sorry Carol you have been nailed.

Carol why ***** about it if you didn't intend that the State should
NOT have hired them?

Erroneous assumption that posting an informative article is
"BITCHing."

No carol no error on MY part at all.

It certainly was not "BITCHing." It was the
sharing of an article about a WI happening.


WHY on Earth is such an event worthy of comment Carol? Your disingenuous
***** wears thin after a couple of years of reading it.

Why on earth must your approval be obtained before someone posts
something. Are you the grand poobah of who can post what?

Oh it doesn't Carol, I never said it did. Nor must I have yours oh GREAT
QUEEN of the Internet!

Just a continuation of your not so clever ***** if trying to disown
the things you say and do.

I have not tried to disown anything. Provide a direct quote. Go
ahead.
Address the issues, and provide a referent for your false accusation.

Oh Carol cut the crap.

Translation: "Can't find one; none exist, so I can't post any."

Carol you weasel all over the place on your TRUE motive for posting the
seminal article here on the State hiring a "CHRISTIAN" law firm! HOW DARE
THEY?
JKust how driggin DATE they hire a CHRISTIAN??? SEPARATIUON OF CHURCH AND
STATE!

You posted the story because you were opposed to the State hring a
"Christian" law firm.

Your erroneous assumption is noted. Get a new crystal ball. Or try tea
leaves. It might improve your luck.

Carol Carol Carol. Too bad you don't believe in hell becasue that's
where you'd be going. You MANIA on "Church and State" issue is LEGENDARY on
the newsgroup.
You almost literally start foaming at the mouth whenever the subject comes
up. It does NOT take any divination at all to know why you post the things
you do. I do not know WHY you get so angry about the truth. Carol you have a
PATTERN of behavior. Your rather stupid attempts to say "you don't REALLY
know why I do things" act gets OLD when you have been playing it for so many
years. Carol you remind me of a little ***** I knew from my days in
school. A clasmate at McKinley School in West Allis. The twerp used to love
to tap the girl sitting at the deak in fromt of him on the back of the head.
When she's say "OW!" And tghe teacher would look he wouold INSIST ANGRILY
that it was NOT him! Oh how he would launch into "YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY SEE ME
DO IT!" Oh YES Carol EVERYONE in the room KNEW he did it. EVERY ONE OF US!
EVERY LAST ONE. His little act stopped working, but he, LIKE YOU< just could
not break the habit of the little act he played.

I place that up with it being a Black Law firm, or Female law firm.

Go ahead. Place it where you would like to.

If David Moore (ever posted as himself) and he posted that the state had
hired a Black law firm, I'd know that he posted it because he HATES black
people. If some others posted an article about the state hiring a Jewish law
firm I know it was their virulent anti-Semitism that was their purpose. I'd
also know their dishonesty when they denied the real motive.

People who post that crap have one of two agendas.

What crap? What was crap. Why was it crap?

The crap about the law firm the state had hired. WHY is it news for this
newsgroup Carol?

Either they are BITTERLY opposed to the state having hired then BECAUSE
they are "Christians."

Says Swami Kenneth Pangborn.

Don't have to be a swami Carol.

or they ARE Christians and are thrilled that they were hired.

Says Swami Kenneth Pangborn.

For the 99.9999999% of the rest of the world it isn't worth the effort
to collect such an article and post it to Usenet. Since ev erypone
KNOWS that you go into conculsions about "Christians" we can assume
that you were NOT "thrilled" that this "Christian" law firm was hired.
Your denials are just you own special brand of dishonesty Carol.

You are a Christian, I assume. I make no erroneous assumptions about you.
I base any assumptions upon what you have written, and when I do, I am
able to quote them.

You know I am a Catholic Carol. And you know that when the subject of
the church comes up I have an obvious bias. BUT.... BUT.. Carol, UNLIKE
YOU - I don't try to HIDE where I am comiong from. I dont' PLAY coy and
little head games. I don't pretend to be something that I am not. I don't
play this little pollyanna act of pure inniocence just digging my innocent
little toes into the hot linoleum. With you it is such an ACT Carol.

Carol after all thes eyears I certainly have,

The archives record what you "certainly have" said.

And for the most part you too Carol.

If that is the case, why is it so hard to find a direct quotation to prove
your allegations?

Because, Carol with YOU nobody can EVER prove anything. When we spend
the hours searching the HUGE archives of your *****, for the statements,
and we replay them you just ignore them. Sometimes your ploy is to not post
at all for a few days and then you BITTERLY DENY that anything was ever
provided anbd call people LIARS making them go back AGAIN and search oit and
you play the same act again and again till you just wear people out. I just
quit playing your little game.

Your palpable animosity toward Christianity is hard to miss.

If that is the case, just provide proof.

Carol look at your little QUIP about the "HAIL MARYS" above. Maybe you
don't realize the way you choose to say things betrays where your head is
REALLY ACT! Carol you are so damn intellectually dishoinest you have even
yourself head fukkked about who and what you are. That's the ONLY reason I
cut you ANY slack at all.

and so have most other folks, gotten used to your
act of "PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT WOMAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN act.

What is that supposed to mean?

Just what it says Carol Your behavior is very transparent. When people
comment on that transparency you go into these wild tangents of *****
trying to deny it.

Unfortunately, you have failed to give any examples of any behavior or
writing which proves your allegations.

Don't you mean REFERENTS? YOU WANT REFERENTS?

You rant and rail against Christians on one thread and in
another try to play the role of Pollyana. It is more than a little
off-putting.

Examples of this ranting and railing? Come on, Kenny. Prove it.

Carol we've dance to this tune before. It HAS been proved time and time
again. Your denials are funny when you APPEAL to the Atheists to come to
your RESCUE! Did yopu go to the JESUS forum for help???????? You
crossposted to the Atheism newsgroup for rather obvious reasons. You were
looking for some of the AA Zombies who HATE Christians to come share your
OUTRAGE tghat the state would EVER be allowed to hire a CHRISTIAN LAWYER!
HOW DARE THEY? And you know that there are some of the Zombies who have
personal issues with me based on their mistaken belief that I have something
to do with the disgusting forgeries. You pull that ***** Caroil and then PLAY
like you NEVER DID..
You insult the intellgence of EVERYONE Carol when you don't realize that
anyone with an IQ over room temperature can clearly see what you are doing.
Adding TWO newsgroups in a DESPERATION PLAY for getting some BACKUP...
MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY! CAROL NEEDS BACKUP ON AISLE 11 PRODUCE!!!
Yes Carol this is RIDICULE at this point. It is because you REALLY REALLY
think you are gettign away with your act.

WHY would it be worth commenting on Carol?

Exactly what "comment" of mine are YOU bitching about?

The hring of a "CHRISTIAN" owned law firm.

I didn't make any comment. I posted a media article.

TO GET COMMENTS...

Oh hell Carol even the posting of it speaks for itself. WHY post it at
all if you weren't OPPOSED to it???

Why not post it? It is WI news about a WI happening. You know I have
posted articles about things which I am not or was not opposed to. The
archives are full of such examples--examples of articles regarding things
of which I approve(d) of wholeheartedly. That disproves your theory.

Oh Carol cut the *****.When you post articles it is because they fit one
of your agendas.

WHY should that be noteable IF you weren't bitching about it???

Folks share articles in usenet all the time, often posting information
via
news articles about stuff which they approve. I think your crystal
ball
with which you try to interpret such occurrences is cracked.

Sure we share articles when they are NEWSWORTHY..

Your opinion of what is newsworthy is of no interest to me.

Yes I know. So tell me WHY is the fact that the State hired a
"CHRISTIAN" lawyer so URGENTLY NEWSWORTHY Carol???????? IN YOUR OPINION...

Do people rush out to post an article like this:?
SHEBOYGAN (AP) Joseph Smith put on a pair of socks this morning ay 7:10
AM.
They were Argyle socks. Mr. SMith is very punctiual in putting on argyle
socks ever morning at precisely 7:10 AM.

Do tell.

NO TELLING Carol see the QUESTION MARK at the end of the sentence? Know
what they are used for ?

No Carol nobody would give a crap.

Except you. You posted it.

As an EXAMPLE of what BS your dodge is.

After all SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, right Carol?

Is that an issue here?

It always IS for YOU. Seems to m,ake your blood boil a bit.

So, you read minds, make erroneous assumptions AND do blood-pressure
readings by remote sensing abilities.

Carol trust me when YOU open your mouth, NOBODY needs "remote sensing
devices" even on the Moon!

Why is the fact that the Law Firm is made up of Christians such a big
deal that it needs to be posted on Usenet?

It was a news article about a WI issue which was posted without comment.
No one said it was a big deal. No one made a big deal about it
except you, as the archives prove. You are the one who is carrying on and
trying to impose your standard of what is appropriate to post.

Carol answer the question. There were probably 30 or 40 THOUSAND stories
form Wisconsin that day alone. Why pick THAT ONE? Besides your commitment to
Atheism that is.

I don't care what you think is appropriate.

Gell Caol I never said that posting the aryicle was in appropriate. Just
like I dnever objected to Slick Willie Clinton getting blow jobs. It's LYING
about WHY you posted it that made it a big deal Carol. But you are so easy
to trap in a lie. It isn't second nature to you it's PRIMARY.

It's not like your HATRED for Christians in general and Catholics in

specific is any kind of closely guarded secret.
Examples to support your false claim are necessary if you intend to
convince anyone that I hate Christians or Catholics. It is not a
closely
guarded secret that many of my friends and family are Christians and/or
Catholics.

Yeah I know. When I worked with ICDP on 3rd and North I got to hear lots
of white folks say; "some of my best friends are darkies." Both I and the
black people I worked with were VERY impressed. No, I think STUNNED would
be the word. Carol you come accross as being AS genuine with your regards
for Catholics as Adolph Eichman would be ar a Bar Mitzvah telling us
about
all HIS Jewish friends!

You are welcome to express your opinion, but I am not interested in your
opinion or your congerings.

Well I hold that one about you Carol.

You only deny it when you are trying to play Polly Prim. A
role that doesn't suit you at all.


Tut, tut.

TUT TUT NOTHIN' BUT BUTTERNUT BREAD!

No examples of that either?

Years worth Carol.

Then just provide proof. Why are you so inept at providing evidence,
being so familiar with the law and such.

Carol you don't realize that your own posts provide the proof right in
them. Do you realize how many people you have laughing at you and your
denials?

I have played the game of step and fetchit for you before. I post
thje examples, you ignore them for a couple days and then INSIST I
never posted anything. Your games are tiring. So I play my way.

Go ahead. It is no surprise to anyone who read claims you make that you
can't substantiate them. And most folks can figure out it is because
there is no proof because your allegations are false.

Carol you substantiate them, you just aren't smart enough to know it.

Your reason for posting this was OBVIOUS CAROL.

Your [just one more] erroneous assumption is noted.

I am sorry Carol - I see you behind the curtain and
your pretense is merely annoying.

As I said, your crystal ball is cracked. So are your super-duper
see-through-the-curtain spectacles/

Nobody misses your HATRED of Christians in general Catholics
in specific. You can't disown years of attacks on the
Milwaukee archdiocese and bitching about school vouchers.


Oh, please do post examples of my "HATRED of Christians in general
Catholics in specific."


Still no examples? Kenny!! Folks will think you go around making
unsupported claims. What a pity.


All they have to do is look you up on Google Carol and go back a few
years when you were BITCHING ENDLESSLY about Messmer High School and the
VOUCHERS!

Just post what wasn't true or what was erroneous or what was
unsubstantiated.

Carol it was your OPPOSITION to the vouchers, and you made mORE than ONE
Carol.

Carol did you notice anything? Let me let you in on MY little game for a
change. You do SO love to be in CONTROL of things and your combat where
you
believe you have WON... Did you notice what I did to you? When I tell
ou -
you'll get pissed. With your track record with such posts it was not hard
to know where you wanted to go with it, attacking the state hiring a
"CHRISTIAN" law firm (SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE) but Carol you
didn't
get to display your outrage because I took your little toy away from you
and
made you try to deny your REAL agenda. So now you CAN'T go where you
wanted
because you have just spent TWO WEEKS vehemently denying that was your
purpose.

Sounds like congering to me, Kenny, and time sure flies when you are
having fun. I posted the article on May 20. This is may 25. So, you are
wrong once again.

Okay with you it seems like 2 weeks. BUT you still locked yourself in a
corner.

Carol you see yourself as this GIANT GIANT intellect... It's like taking
candy from a baby, your arrogance always trips you up.

Your crystal ball is totally out of whack. Your mind reading skills
stink.

Doesn't change the FACT that you slammed the door in your own face about
objecting to the lawfirm's hiring now....
.
User: "Carol Lee Smith"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 26 May 2005 01:43:42 PM
KP>> Your palpable animosity toward Christianity is hard to miss.
cs> If that is the case, just provide proof.
Kenneth Pangborn whined:
<<Carol look at your little QUIP about the "HAIL MARYS" above.>>
You have not established that "HAIL MARYS" is something which may not be
uttered or discussed. Is it some kind of protected concept?
<< Maybe you don't realize the way you choose to say things betrays where
your head is REALLY ACT! >>
Kenny, you have such a way with words!!
.
User: " krp"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 26 May 2005 09:01:17 PM
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050526134124.13095F-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...


KP>> Your palpable animosity toward Christianity is hard to miss.

cs> If that is the case, just provide proof.

Kenneth Pangborn whined:

<<Carol look at your little QUIP about the "HAIL MARYS" above.>>

You have not established that "HAIL MARYS" is something which may not be
uttered or discussed. Is it some kind of protected concept?

I don't really have to Carol. Your nasty comment stands all on its own. Note
that others didn't miss it either.
.


User: "Carol Lee Smith"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 26 May 2005 01:38:37 PM
Kenneth Pangborn wrote:
<<Carol Carol Carol. Too bad you don't believe in hell becasue that's
where you'd be going. You MANIA on "Church and State" issue is LEGENDARY
on the newsgroup. >>
Endorsing and supporting separation of religion and government is
something everyone should do. Such endorsement is not anti-religion, nor
is it hatred for Catholicism or hatred of religion.
"I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is
absolute; where no Catholic prelate would tell the President -- should he
be Catholic -- how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his
parishioners for whom to vote; where no church or church school is granted
any public funds or political preference, and where no man is denied
public office merely because his religion differs from the President who
might appoint him, or the people who might elect him.
"I believe in an America that is officially neither Catholic, Protestant
nor Jewish; where no public official either requests or accept
instructions on public policy from the Pope, the National Council of
Churches or any other ecclesiastical source; where no religious body seeks
to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populace or the
public acts of its officials, and where religious liberty is so
indivisible that an act against one church is treated as an act against
all. "
--John F. Kennedy, delivered 12 September 1960 at the Rice Hotel in
Houston, TX
.
User: " krp"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 26 May 2005 08:59:19 PM
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050526133416.13095D-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...

<<Carol Carol Carol. Too bad you don't believe in hell becasue that's
where you'd be going. Your MANIA on "Church and State" issue is LEGENDARY
on the newsgroup. >>
Endorsing and supporting separation of religion and government is
something everyone should do. Such endorsement is not anti-religion, nor
is it hatred for Catholicism or hatred of religion.

Carol there is a separation of church and the establishment of an
official state religion, NOT banning religion or the operation of religion
in our society.

"I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is
absolute; where no Catholic prelate would tell the President -- should he
be Catholic -- how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his
parishioners for whom to vote; where no church or church school is granted
any public funds or political preference, and where no man is denied
public office merely because his religion differs from the President who
might appoint him, or the people who might elect him.

Well Carol there are things religions impose on their members. I know
you HATE that. But that's the way it is. If you don't like that, then you
are arguing that people with certain religious beliefs should NOT be able to
hold office unless they adopt YOUR beliefs. Nice quote of JFK.
.

User: "Ryan P."

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 26 May 2005 03:36:43 PM
Carol Lee Smith wrote:

Kenneth Pangborn wrote:

<<Carol Carol Carol. Too bad you don't believe in hell becasue that's
where you'd be going. You MANIA on "Church and State" issue is LEGENDARY
on the newsgroup. >>

Endorsing and supporting separation of religion and government is
something everyone should do. Such endorsement is not anti-religion, nor
is it hatred for Catholicism or hatred of religion.

"I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is
absolute; where no Catholic prelate would tell the President -- should he
be Catholic -- how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his
parishioners for whom to vote; where no church or church school is granted
any public funds or political preference, and where no man is denied
public office merely because his religion differs from the President who
might appoint him, or the people who might elect him.

"I believe in an America that is officially neither Catholic, Protestant
nor Jewish; where no public official either requests or accept
instructions on public policy from the Pope, the National Council of
Churches or any other ecclesiastical source; where no religious body seeks
to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populace or the
public acts of its officials, and where religious liberty is so
indivisible that an act against one church is treated as an act against
all. "

--John F. Kennedy, delivered 12 September 1960 at the Rice Hotel in
Houston, TX

I'll leave the entire quote there for you to reread. Reread the end
where he referes to religious liberty.
If somebody is preventing me from freely expressing my religion in non
confrontational ways (such as a student wearing a cross necklace at a
public school, children wanting to sing Christmas carols), then I have
lost my religious liberty.
Which is pretty much what some of the lunatic PC police seem to enjoy.
.
User: " krp"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 26 May 2005 09:00:03 PM
"Ryan P." <rpaque@delete.this.part.wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:vrqle.835$k43.215@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...

Carol Lee Smith wrote:

Kenneth Pangborn wrote:

<<Carol Carol Carol. Too bad you don't believe in hell becasue that's
where you'd be going. You MANIA on "Church and State" issue is LEGENDARY
on the newsgroup. >>

Endorsing and supporting separation of religion and government is
something everyone should do. Such endorsement is not anti-religion, nor
is it hatred for Catholicism or hatred of religion.

"I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is
absolute; where no Catholic prelate would tell the President -- should
he
be Catholic -- how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his
parishioners for whom to vote; where no church or church school is
granted
any public funds or political preference, and where no man is denied
public office merely because his religion differs from the President who
might appoint him, or the people who might elect him.

"I believe in an America that is officially neither Catholic, Protestant
nor Jewish; where no public official either requests or accept
instructions on public policy from the Pope, the National Council of
Churches or any other ecclesiastical source; where no religious body
seeks
to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populace or
the
public acts of its officials, and where religious liberty is so
indivisible that an act against one church is treated as an act against
all. "

--John F. Kennedy, delivered 12 September 1960 at the Rice Hotel in
Houston, TX


I'll leave the entire quote there for you to reread. Reread the end
where he referes to religious liberty.

Carol doesn't believe in THAT part at all!
.



User: "Carol Lee Smith"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 26 May 2005 01:40:39 PM
Kenneth Pangborn wrote:

What crap? What was crap. Why was it crap?

Kenneth Pangborn wrote:
<<The crap about the law firm the state had hired. WHY is it news for
this newsgroup Carol? >>
You have not established it was crap.
You have not established that it is not WI news.
http://www.cafepress.com/pansy12
.
User: " krp"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 26 May 2005 09:00:23 PM
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050526133915.13095E-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...

Kenneth Pangborn wrote:

What crap? What was crap. Why was it crap?


Kenneth Pangborn wrote:

<<The crap about the law firm the state had hired. WHY is it news for
this newsgroup Carol? >>

You have not established it was crap.

No Carol YOU have!
.


User: "Carol Lee Smith"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 26 May 2005 01:33:21 PM
On Thu, 26 May 2005, krp wrote:

How many Hail Marys will you have to say to get forgiveness for
your lies?


Trying to show me that you do NOT hate Catholicism again Carol????????

You seem unable to live by the rule about bearing false witness. Could it
be that you are the one who hates Catholicism?
You have been invited to provide anything I have written which reflects
hatred for Catholicism, and you haven't been able to do so.
The invitation stands.
I think you may need to light a few candles:
http://www.catholicsupply.com/christmas/othersports.html
.
User: " krp"

Title: Re: Wisconsin hires Dobson Law Firm 26 May 2005 08:56:02 PM
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050526132931.13095C-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...

On Thu, 26 May 2005, krp wrote:

How many Hail Marys will you have to say to get forgiveness for
your lies?


Trying to show me that you do NOT hate Catholicism again Carol????????


You seem unable to live by the rule about bearing false witness. Could it
be that you are the one who hates Catholicism?

Not at all Carol - note that others have now had the courage to speak back
to on in reading your posts the same way I did. And commenting on your
disdain for Christians as well.
.









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Kerry hires racist, extortionist and philanderer Rev. Jesse Jackson. (No Kidding)
Newt Gingrich Hires Pollster, Fundraiser - Poll of nearly 90,000 people shows Gingrich would win - America needs this Constitutonal Historian
Newsweek hires Rove for commentator job
J Young GOP Morality: Crooked Bush Official Hires Girlfirend for Plush $192,000 Job (GOP, the Stench of Corruption)
No joke: Fox hires Comical Ali's deputy
Christian Church Leader Molests 14 YO Girl, Then Wife Hires Hitman to Kill Victim's Grandmother
Bush Hires Flake For Spokesperson
Bush Hires the Architects for Swift Boaters' Campaign to Destroy AARP & Force Social Security Privatization - PUSH BACK!
Oops, Creationist Musem Hires Porn Star to Play Adam
 

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