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"Jim F." |
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08 Jun 2004 07:07:54 PM |
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Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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The evolutionary theory is based solely on random occurrences.....
You obviously haven't been keeping up. Your statement is flat out wrong.
The process of natural selection is NOT a random process. One could
describe the process of the generation of variations, to be random, at
least in relation to natural selection. But even the generation of
variations
by mutations is not literally speaking a random process either. And those
variations, no matter how random they might be, are subjected to
differential selection by their environments.
Lack of
design = no plan... How could there be no plan...when everything has an
apparent purpose of some sort...whether it is clear or not clear to the
observer.
That's why I have suggested that people read Dawkins' book *The Blind
Watchmaker* since he deals directly with that question. And his answer
is that the adaptiveness of organisms to their environment is explicable
in terms of purely natural, mechanistic processes. No designer, need
be posited, in order to account for it.
And though something is unclear on Tuesday doesn't mean that a gigantic
breakthrough could occur on Wednesday.
People publish...to keep their egos afloat. Take "Climbing Mount
Improbable", Richard Dawkins
Dawkins thought he came up with the end all be all proof.....
So what if Dawkins has a big ego. What counts is whether or
not his work can stand up to critical scrutiny. Einstein had a
big ego too, so what? And Isaac Newton? He not only had
a big ego but he was a real putz too. But his work has managed
to hold up quite well.
Then go to Alejandro Backer....who disputes the so called "abject
revelation
of the missing element!!!"
You say you know it all...but just how transient is your knowledge?
Actually, I think you're the one who thinks she knows it all. I
have never made that claim for myself.
"Jim F." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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"Jim F." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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Define randomness inherent in the evolutionary theory...without
denying
design.
Mary,
I am not quite sure what your point is.
Mary does not have a point.
She never had.
She will never have one.
She lives her life in a permanently stoned stage...
Back to the discussion at hand.
Jim, I am surprised that you have so far ignored valid doubts raised
by
Sheldon concerning the gaps in the theory of evolution.
Your explanations sounded much like the arguments someone would hear
from
a
believer rather than a scientist...
OK, why don't you detail what you think are valid doubts concerning
the theory of evolution. BTW are your doubts concerning evolution
itself of the theory of natural selection that is used by Darwinians
to attempt to explain evolution? Also, BTW I think that
Sheldon's quoting of Prigogine was a bit misleading since
as far as I know Prigogine was not doubting evolution itself
but was arguing that the theory of natural selection needs to
be supplemented with a theory based on an analysis of the thermodynamics
of
non-equilibrium states. There is a little bit about that sort
of stuff in his Nobel Lecture
http://www.nobel.se/chemistry/laureates/1977/prigogine-autobio.html
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| Title: Re: aa - TQOTM Nomination Re: I erred |
15 Jun 2004 05:41:41 AM |
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In article <TGMyc.31063$Oa7.16907@fe1.columbus.rr.com>,
"Desdinova" <Desdinova@nospamindy.rr.com> wrote:
"John M Price PhD" <jmprice@calweb.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism article <40cb811f$1_7@corp.newsgroups.com> Mary Hogan
<hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
begin
: The two heads and mutated arms are a fact.....so let's just deal with
dogs
: with fins and gills, and girl's next door with antlers and hooves.
end
This person is so moronic I think at least one of her idiocies needs to
be enshrined. For sheer humor, and the ability to poke fun and point
fingers, I nominate this gem. She doesn't even know some decent English!
Seconds?
Seconded by me and my finned and gilled dog.
Recorded.
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| User: "Riain Barton" |
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| Title: Re: aa - TQOTM Nomination Re: I erred |
12 Jun 2004 09:23:57 PM |
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Theology is always a great help;
it is searching in a beautiful garden, on a lovely warm soft sunny day, for
the most precious flower in the garden, the difficult part is deciding on
which of all the beautiful flowers is the most precious! - Riain Y. Barton,
13 June, 2004 C.E.
"Desdinova" <Desdinova@nospamindy.rr.com> wrote in message
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| "John M Price PhD" <jmprice@calweb.com> wrote in message
| news:40cb97f1$0$21976$d368eab@news.calweb.com...
| > In alt.atheism article <40cb811f$1_7@corp.newsgroups.com> Mary Hogan
| <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
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| > begin
| > : The two heads and mutated arms are a fact.....so let's just deal with
| dogs
| > : with fins and gills, and girl's next door with antlers and hooves.
| > end
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| > This person is so moronic I think at least one of her idiocies needs to
| > be enshrined. For sheer humor, and the ability to poke fun and point
| > fingers, I nominate this gem. She doesn't even know some decent
English!
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| > Seconds?
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| Seconded by me and my finned and gilled dog.
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| Desdinova
| Remove nospam to e-mail
| AA #2182 EAC Director of If I Told You I'd Have To Kill You
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| Theology is never any help;
| it is searching in a dark cellar at midnight
| for a black cat that isn't there.
| -- Robert A. Heinlein
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| User: "John M Price PhD" |
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12 Jun 2004 11:36:53 PM |
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In alt.atheism article <1VOyc.85302$DG4.76229@fe2.columbus.rr.com> Riain Barton <riain@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
: Theology is always a great help;
Then you are an uncritical fool.
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So, you think the bible is perfect? See:
ftp://ftp.calweb.com/users/j/jmprice/bad-bibl.zip
Be amazed at the profanity, lewdness, corruption and errors.
(Files collected from across the web. All verses cited for yuor own
retching pleasure!)
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: aa - TQOTM Nomination Re: I erred |
13 Jun 2004 06:07:11 AM |
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:23:57 GMT, "Riain Barton"
<riain@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
Theology is always a great help;
it is searching in a beautiful garden, on a lovely warm soft sunny day, for
the most precious flower in the garden, the difficult part is deciding on
which of all the beautiful flowers is the most precious! - Riain Y. Barton,
13 June, 2004 C.E.
Sooo, according to your analogy, it's hard to decide which one and
only truth is the truthiest and which one and only god is the godliest
and you are the prize for which they compete with their odors of truth
and visions of godliness.
Kind of like standing in a circle of carnival games, isn't it?
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| User: "Riain Barton" |
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| Title: Re: aa - TQOTM Nomination Re: I erred |
13 Jun 2004 12:58:45 PM |
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1. It was not a serious statement, it was poking fun at her signature
file...
2. Studying Theology and Philosophy is rewarding, just like gardening, you
have to get rid of the weeds and the rocks, and the bad soil...
She nor you, nor anyone else should condemn us for studying theology and
philosophy, just because ye are atheists!
I certainly do not condemn ye for your beliefs or for anything you wish to
study!
"Kate " <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote in message
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| On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:23:57 GMT, "Riain Barton"
| <riain@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
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| >Theology is always a great help;
| >it is searching in a beautiful garden, on a lovely warm soft sunny day,
for
| >the most precious flower in the garden, the difficult part is deciding on
| >which of all the beautiful flowers is the most precious! - Riain Y.
Barton,
| >13 June, 2004 C.E.
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| Sooo, according to your analogy, it's hard to decide which one and
| only truth is the truthiest and which one and only god is the godliest
| and you are the prize for which they compete with their odors of truth
| and visions of godliness.
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| Kind of like standing in a circle of carnival games, isn't it?
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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| Title: Re: I erred |
12 Jun 2004 09:24:49 PM |
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:16:20 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
<hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
The two heads and mutated arms are a fact.....so let's just deal with dogs
with fins and gills, and girl's next door with antlers and hooves.
Kinky.
Not that I'm getting a Woody or anything......... Really.
Any leather? Collar? Gag ball? Girl next door the Dom?
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "John M Price PhD" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
12 Jun 2004 05:19:38 PM |
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In alt.atheism article <40cb74cf.3971852@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk> William <telige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote:
: On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:50:21 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
: <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
: >And yes I did mean...according to the design that God initiated, for without
: >this Brainiac design.... there would be no order.
: >
: >What I meant was you....are not thinking...atheistically.... You need God
: >just as much as I need God!!
: You are not making any sense.
Expecting some? I think laughing at her is apropos. She is making very
silly statements - has to be either an attempt at humor or a sign of
abject ignorance.
(c) 2004. Copyright, John M. Price, PhD. All Rights Reserved.
Contents may not be republished in any form or medium without prior
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followup postings limited to and within usenet.
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Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion.
Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated Atheist# 683
There is no goal [to natural selection]. There is indeed a result,
but it is unplanned, and simply takes advantage of the extant phenotypes.
It utilizes what by some is called 'pre-adaptation', the existence
of a phenotypic and correspondingly genotypic subgroup of individuals
which, when looked at post hoc, had those traits which survived
a specific change in the selective pressures.
- John M Price, PhD (On SKEPTIC)
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| User: "Loki_666" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
14 Jun 2004 02:04:21 AM |
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John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com> wrote in message news:<40cb8179$0$22005$d368eab@news.calweb.com>...
In alt.atheism article <40cb74cf.3971852@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk> William <telige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote:
: On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:50:21 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
: <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
: >And yes I did mean...according to the design that God initiated, for without
: >this Brainiac design.... there would be no order.
: >
: >What I meant was you....are not thinking...atheistically.... You need God
: >just as much as I need God!!
: You are not making any sense.
Expecting some? I think laughing at her is apropos. She is making very
silly statements - has to be either an attempt at humor or a sign of
abject ignorance.
She is about as sophisticated as that Mark Johnson chap...maybe up to
Pastor Frank's standards. At any rate, she helps pass the time.
Before I started reading these boards, I hadn't gotten a good laugh in
ages. Now I laugh every day. Easy to see how one can get hooked on
stupidity: it's a lot more entertaining. No need to worry about
little details like logic or consistency.
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| User: "The Fact Man" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
14 Jun 2004 03:35:31 AM |
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Have you met my imaginary friend...God?
Loki_666 <kensign@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism article <40cb74cf.3971852@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk>
William <telige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote:
: On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:50:21 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
: <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
: >And yes I did mean...according to the design that God initiated, for
without
: >this Brainiac design.... there would be no order.
: >
: >What I meant was you....are not thinking...atheistically.... You
need God
: >just as much as I need God!!
: You are not making any sense.
Expecting some? I think laughing at her is apropos. She is making very
silly statements - has to be either an attempt at humor or a sign of
abject ignorance.
She is about as sophisticated as that Mark Johnson chap...maybe up to
Pastor Frank's standards. At any rate, she helps pass the time.
Before I started reading these boards, I hadn't gotten a good laugh in
ages. Now I laugh every day. Easy to see how one can get hooked on
stupidity: it's a lot more entertaining. No need to worry about
little details like logic or consistency.
.
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| User: "Mary Hogan" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
14 Jun 2004 09:50:28 AM |
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Have you met your imaginary friend..self...who plays game after game to
prove that it is something more than...meaningless?
Have you met your imaginary friend...self...who doesn't even realize that
the effort spent on improving itself only ends up in a nursing
home...unloved, unwanted...discarded?
Have you met your imaginary friend who says you can do whatever you want to
do....and in the end you end up alone and unloved?
Have you met Rockefeller's imaginary friend that said he was...BIG...only
now he is long past the digestive tracts of maggots?
Have you met Oprah's imaginary friends...who based on her...money...play a
game of who can act the most sincere?
Have you met your Yetzer Hara....who tells you that making fun of God is
somehow proving you are superior to those on the Real Path!!
Have you looked in the mirror lately?
This is serious business...this opportunity called time....and you are
telling silly jokes that prove what?
"The Fact Man" <hi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Have you met my imaginary friend...God?
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John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism article <40cb74cf.3971852@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk>
William <telige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote:
: On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:50:21 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
: <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
: >And yes I did mean...according to the design that God initiated,
for
without
: >this Brainiac design.... there would be no order.
: >
: >What I meant was you....are not thinking...atheistically.... You
need God
: >just as much as I need God!!
: You are not making any sense.
Expecting some? I think laughing at her is apropos. She is making
very
silly statements - has to be either an attempt at humor or a sign of
abject ignorance.
She is about as sophisticated as that Mark Johnson chap...maybe up to
Pastor Frank's standards. At any rate, she helps pass the time.
Before I started reading these boards, I hadn't gotten a good laugh in
ages. Now I laugh every day. Easy to see how one can get hooked on
stupidity: it's a lot more entertaining. No need to worry about
little details like logic or consistency.
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| User: "TonyaK9" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
14 Jun 2004 10:43:58 AM |
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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Have you met Rockefeller's imaginary friend that said he was...BIG...only
now he is long
Are you back to your sexual innuendos again, flower girl?...
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
14 Jun 2004 04:39:28 PM |
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In article <40cdbb9f$1_7@corp.newsgroups.com>,
"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
This is serious business...this opportunity called time....and you are
telling silly jokes that prove what?
That theism is a waste of mental effort.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
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| User: "Sheldon Liberman" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
14 Jun 2004 06:09:06 AM |
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Loki_666 wrote:
John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com> wrote in message news:<40cb8179$0$22005$d368eab@news.calweb.com>...
In alt.atheism article <40cb74cf.3971852@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk> William <telige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote:
: On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:50:21 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
: <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
: >And yes I did mean...according to the design that God initiated, for without
: >this Brainiac design.... there would be no order.
: >
: >What I meant was you....are not thinking...atheistically.... You need God
: >just as much as I need God!!
: You are not making any sense.
Expecting some? I think laughing at her is apropos. She is making very
silly statements - has to be either an attempt at humor or a sign of
abject ignorance.
She is about as sophisticated as that Mark Johnson chap...maybe up to
Pastor Frank's standards. At any rate, she helps pass the time.
Before I started reading these boards, I hadn't gotten a good laugh in
ages. Now I laugh every day. Easy to see how one can get hooked on
stupidity: it's a lot more entertaining. No need to worry about
little details like logic or consistency.
Perhaps you should enrol in Clown College. You seem pretty
"entertaining" yourself.
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| User: "Loki_666" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
14 Jun 2004 01:58:57 PM |
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Sheldon Liberman <sheldon.liberman@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<40CD8752.9020606@sympatico.ca>...
Loki_666 wrote:
John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com> wrote in message news:<40cb8179$0$22005$d368eab@news.calweb.com>...
In alt.atheism article <40cb74cf.3971852@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk> William <telige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote:
: On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:50:21 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
: <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
: >And yes I did mean...according to the design that God initiated, for without
: >this Brainiac design.... there would be no order.
: >
: >What I meant was you....are not thinking...atheistically.... You need God
: >just as much as I need God!!
: You are not making any sense.
Expecting some? I think laughing at her is apropos. She is making very
silly statements - has to be either an attempt at humor or a sign of
abject ignorance.
She is about as sophisticated as that Mark Johnson chap...maybe up to
Pastor Frank's standards. At any rate, she helps pass the time.
Before I started reading these boards, I hadn't gotten a good laugh in
ages. Now I laugh every day. Easy to see how one can get hooked on
stupidity: it's a lot more entertaining. No need to worry about
little details like logic or consistency.
Perhaps you should enrol in Clown College. You seem pretty
"entertaining" yourself.
Ouch...there goes my self esteem.
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| User: "Sheldon Liberman" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
14 Jun 2004 09:15:51 PM |
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Loki_666 wrote:
Sheldon Liberman <sheldon.liberman@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<40CD8752.9020606@sympatico.ca>...
Loki_666 wrote:
John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com> wrote in message news:<40cb8179$0$22005$d368eab@news.calweb.com>...
In alt.atheism article <40cb74cf.3971852@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk> William <telige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote:
: On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:50:21 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
: <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
: >And yes I did mean...according to the design that God initiated, for without
: >this Brainiac design.... there would be no order.
: >
: >What I meant was you....are not thinking...atheistically.... You need God
: >just as much as I need God!!
: You are not making any sense.
Expecting some? I think laughing at her is apropos. She is making very
silly statements - has to be either an attempt at humor or a sign of
abject ignorance.
She is about as sophisticated as that Mark Johnson chap...maybe up to
Pastor Frank's standards. At any rate, she helps pass the time.
Before I started reading these boards, I hadn't gotten a good laugh in
ages. Now I laugh every day. Easy to see how one can get hooked on
stupidity: it's a lot more entertaining. No need to worry about
little details like logic or consistency.
Perhaps you should enrol in Clown College. You seem pretty
"entertaining" yourself.
Ouch...there goes my self esteem.
I sicerely doubt I was first on the scene to achieve that lofty
objective, but thanks for the vote of confidence.
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| User: "Loki_666" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
15 Jun 2004 11:56:27 PM |
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Sheldon Liberman <sheldon.liberman@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<40CE5BD7.9080503@sympatico.ca>...
Loki_666 wrote:
Sheldon Liberman <sheldon.liberman@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<40CD8752.9020606@sympatico.ca>...
Loki_666 wrote:
John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com> wrote in message news:<40cb8179$0$22005$d368eab@news.calweb.com>...
In alt.atheism article <40cb74cf.3971852@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk> William <telige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote:
: On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:50:21 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
: <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
: >And yes I did mean...according to the design that God initiated, for without
: >this Brainiac design.... there would be no order.
: >
: >What I meant was you....are not thinking...atheistically.... You need God
: >just as much as I need God!!
: You are not making any sense.
Expecting some? I think laughing at her is apropos. She is making very
silly statements - has to be either an attempt at humor or a sign of
abject ignorance.
She is about as sophisticated as that Mark Johnson chap...maybe up to
Pastor Frank's standards. At any rate, she helps pass the time.
Before I started reading these boards, I hadn't gotten a good laugh in
ages. Now I laugh every day. Easy to see how one can get hooked on
stupidity: it's a lot more entertaining. No need to worry about
little details like logic or consistency.
Perhaps you should enrol in Clown College. You seem pretty
"entertaining" yourself.
Ouch...there goes my self esteem.
I sicerely doubt I was first on the scene to achieve that lofty
objective, but thanks for the vote of confidence.
What a sharp wit you have!
You could be a regular on SNL.
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| User: "Riain Barton" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
12 Jun 2004 09:27:42 PM |
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Tell us does a signature line that long with PhD written every where make
your penis any bigger?
"John M Price PhD" <> wrote in message
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| In alt.atheism article <40cb74cf.3971852@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk>
William <telige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote:
| : On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:50:21 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
| : <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
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| : >And yes I did mean...according to the design that God initiated, for
without
| : >this Brainiac design.... there would be no order.
| : >
| : >What I meant was you....are not thinking...atheistically.... You need
God
| : >just as much as I need God!!
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| : You are not making any sense.
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| Expecting some? I think laughing at her is apropos. She is making very
| silly statements - has to be either an attempt at humor or a sign of
| abject ignorance.
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| There is no goal [to natural selection]. There is indeed a result,
| but it is unplanned, and simply takes advantage of the extant phenotypes.
| It utilizes what by some is called 'pre-adaptation', the existence
| of a phenotypic and correspondingly genotypic subgroup of individuals
| which, when looked at post hoc, had those traits which survived
| a specific change in the selective pressures.
| - John M Price, PhD (On SKEPTIC)
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| User: "Mary Hogan" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
12 Jun 2004 05:26:05 PM |
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The reference to fossil data based on the phenotypes of extant species is a
circular argument and you know it...I would hope...Phud
"John M Price PhD" <> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism article <40cb74cf.3971852@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk>
William <telige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote:
: On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:50:21 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
: <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
: >And yes I did mean...according to the design that God initiated, for
without
: >this Brainiac design.... there would be no order.
: >
: >What I meant was you....are not thinking...atheistically.... You need
God
: >just as much as I need God!!
: You are not making any sense.
Expecting some? I think laughing at her is apropos. She is making very
silly statements - has to be either an attempt at humor or a sign of
abject ignorance.
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There is no goal [to natural selection]. There is indeed a result,
but it is unplanned, and simply takes advantage of the extant phenotypes.
It utilizes what by some is called 'pre-adaptation', the existence
of a phenotypic and correspondingly genotypic subgroup of individuals
which, when looked at post hoc, had those traits which survived
a specific change in the selective pressures.
- John M Price, PhD (On SKEPTIC)
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| User: "TonyaK9" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
12 Jun 2004 05:47:21 PM |
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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The reference to fossil data based on the phenotypes of extant species is
a
circular argument and you know it...I would hope...Phud
This phrase of yours is senseless.
But I hold no hope that you might possibly comprehand it...
TK9
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| User: "Mary Hogan" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
12 Jun 2004 05:24:29 PM |
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Well then, Phud...take me on...
"John M Price PhD" <> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism article <40cb74cf.3971852@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk>
William <telige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote:
: On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:50:21 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
: <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
: >And yes I did mean...according to the design that God initiated, for
without
: >this Brainiac design.... there would be no order.
: >
: >What I meant was you....are not thinking...atheistically.... You need
God
: >just as much as I need God!!
: You are not making any sense.
Expecting some? I think laughing at her is apropos. She is making very
silly statements - has to be either an attempt at humor or a sign of
abject ignorance.
(c) 2004. Copyright, John M. Price, PhD. All Rights Reserved.
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Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated Atheist# 683
There is no goal [to natural selection]. There is indeed a result,
but it is unplanned, and simply takes advantage of the extant phenotypes.
It utilizes what by some is called 'pre-adaptation', the existence
of a phenotypic and correspondingly genotypic subgroup of individuals
which, when looked at post hoc, had those traits which survived
a specific change in the selective pressures.
- John M Price, PhD (On SKEPTIC)
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| User: "Riain Barton" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
12 Jun 2004 09:28:06 PM |
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Mary you are being a complete FOOL!
"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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| Well then, Phud...take me on...
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| "John M Price PhD" <jmprice@calweb.com> wrote in message
| news:40cb8179$0$22005$d368eab@news.calweb.com...
| > In alt.atheism article <40cb74cf.3971852@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk>
| William <telige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote:
| > : On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:50:21 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
| > : <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
| >
| > : >And yes I did mean...according to the design that God initiated, for
| without
| > : >this Brainiac design.... there would be no order.
| > : >
| > : >What I meant was you....are not thinking...atheistically.... You
need
| God
| > : >just as much as I need God!!
| >
| > : You are not making any sense.
| >
| > Expecting some? I think laughing at her is apropos. She is making very
| > silly statements - has to be either an attempt at humor or a sign of
| > abject ignorance.
| >
| > (c) 2004. Copyright, John M. Price, PhD. All Rights Reserved.
| > Contents may not be republished in any form or medium without prior
| > written consent of the author with the express and only exception of
| > followup postings limited to and within usenet.
| > --
| > John M. Price, PhD
jmprice@calweb.com
| > Life: Chemistry, but with feeling! | PGP Key on request or
FTP!
| > Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion.
| > Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated Atheist#
683
| >
| > There is no goal [to natural selection]. There is indeed a result,
| > but it is unplanned, and simply takes advantage of the extant
phenotypes.
| > It utilizes what by some is called 'pre-adaptation', the existence
| > of a phenotypic and correspondingly genotypic subgroup of individuals
| > which, when looked at post hoc, had those traits which survived
| > a specific change in the selective pressures.
| > - John M Price, PhD (On SKEPTIC)
| >
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| User: "John M Price PhD" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
12 Jun 2004 11:39:48 PM |
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In alt.atheism article <WYOyc.85330$DG4.17740@fe2.columbus.rr.com> Riain Barton <riain@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
: Mary you are being a complete FOOL!
You're not doing too bad yourself.
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And as we stand on the edge of darkness
Let our chant fill the void
That others may know
In the land of the night
The ship of the sun
Is drawn by
The grateful dead.
-- Tibetan "Book of the Dead," ca. 4000 BC.
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| User: "Rehabilitated Jew" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
12 Jun 2004 06:22:15 PM |
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Mary Hogan wrote:
The number of digits at the end of appendages. The number of heads on each
individual organism. The ingestion excretion cycle.... The procreation
potential with unlimited variety. You are thinking in the box. You are
thinking according to the design that God initiated to prevent utter
chaos...
This all strengthens the theory of evolution. This shows evidence of a common
anscestor. You can argue it eitherway. It's just that evolution is more
plausible.
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| User: "TonyaK9" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
12 Jun 2004 06:53:17 PM |
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"Rehabilitated Jew" <a@a.com> wrote in message
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Mary Hogan wrote:
The number of digits at the end of appendages. The number of heads on
each
individual organism. The ingestion excretion cycle.... The procreation
potential with unlimited variety. You are thinking in the box. You are
thinking according to the design that God initiated to prevent utter
chaos...
This all strengthens the theory of evolution. This shows evidence of a
common
anscestor. You can argue it eitherway. It's just that evolution is more
plausible.
Evolution does not have to be "more or less plausible."
Creation does not preclude natural selection.
TK9
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| User: "Rehabilitated Jew" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
12 Jun 2004 07:11:26 PM |
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I agree with you. But Mary doesn't seem to think so.
TonyaK9 wrote:
"Rehabilitated Jew" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:40CB9027.D55455E3@a.com...
Mary Hogan wrote:
The number of digits at the end of appendages. The number of heads on
each
individual organism. The ingestion excretion cycle.... The procreation
potential with unlimited variety. You are thinking in the box. You are
thinking according to the design that God initiated to prevent utter
chaos...
This all strengthens the theory of evolution. This shows evidence of a
common
anscestor. You can argue it eitherway. It's just that evolution is more
plausible.
Evolution does not have to be "more or less plausible."
Creation does not preclude natural selection.
TK9
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| User: "Riain Barton" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
12 Jun 2004 09:32:26 PM |
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ahmein
"TonyaK9" <TonK911@excite.com> wrote in message
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| "Rehabilitated Jew" <a@a.com> wrote in message
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| >
| > Mary Hogan wrote:
| >
| > >
| > > The number of digits at the end of appendages. The number of heads on
| each
| > > individual organism. The ingestion excretion cycle.... The
procreation
| > > potential with unlimited variety. You are thinking in the box. You
are
| > > thinking according to the design that God initiated to prevent utter
| > > chaos...
| >
| > This all strengthens the theory of evolution. This shows evidence of a
| common
| > anscestor. You can argue it eitherway. It's just that evolution is more
| > plausible.
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| Evolution does not have to be "more or less plausible."
| Creation does not preclude natural selection.
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| TK9
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| User: "Mary Hogan" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
12 Jun 2004 10:23:33 PM |
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Evolution says you came from a worm. My Torah says I came from Adam...
Funny thing is Adam...means earth..... But...Adam was not a worm.
"Rehabilitated Jew" <a@a.com> wrote in message
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Mary Hogan wrote:
The number of digits at the end of appendages. The number of heads on
each
individual organism. The ingestion excretion cycle.... The procreation
potential with unlimited variety. You are thinking in the box. You are
thinking according to the design that God initiated to prevent utter
chaos...
This all strengthens the theory of evolution. This shows evidence of a
common
anscestor. You can argue it eitherway. It's just that evolution is more
plausible.
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| User: "Riain Barton" |
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| Title: Re: Wonderful world of atheism |
12 Jun 2004 10:28:12 PM |
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And they are both WRONG!!!
"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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| Evolution says you came from a worm. My Torah says I came from Adam...
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| Funny thing is Adam...means earth..... But...Adam was not a worm.
| "Rehabilitated Jew" <a@a.com> wrote in message
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| > Mary Hogan wrote:
| >
| > >
| > > The number of digits at the end of appendages. The number of heads on
| each
| > > individual organism. The ingestion excretion cycle.... The
procreation
| > > potential with unlimited variety. You are thinking in the box. You
are
| > > thinking according to the design that God initiated to prevent utter
| > > chaos...
| >
| > This all strengthens the theory of evolution. This shows evidence of a
| common
| > anscestor. You can argue it eitherway. It's just that evolution is more
| > plausible.
| >
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