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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "xyz"
Date: 04 Aug 2003 05:04:28 PM
Object: Re: Would like to know the atheist answer
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 22:55:45 -0400, "xyz" <xyz@attglobal.net>, Message
ID: <3f2c77db_3@news1.prserv.net> wrote in alt.atheism;

As interesting as the answers given may have been, one of the inescapable
conclusions of this entire thread is that we know absolutely nothing

about

the origins of the universe, if any. We can no more state with

scientific

certainty that it was created, than we can state that it has always

existed.

We can no more prove that it has purpose than we can prove it hasn't.


I figured your initial post was ***** leading to the above drivel.
Your rubbish is seen so often that it has its own spotlight.

Any answer we can imagine constitutes a conjecture.


Nope.

Asserting our beliefs as an
answer constitutes a personal leap of faith. Not recognizing this fact

is

where the trouble lies, as we try to somehow force our leaps of faith (or
non-faith) on others in defense of our moral codes or values, or even

egos.


No belief involved on my end, just yours.

Right or wrong, we humans have built our societies around those leaps of
faith, and the best we can do is tolerate each other's belief. (Or
non-belief, whatever the case may be).


Toleration is a theist penchant which isn't often found. To those who
lack superstition people like you are no different from a child stomping
his/her foot and insisting 'there is TOO a Santa Claus.'

Some folks replied as if I was trying to convince them that they should
believe in God. I am not.

At least one other poster started his response by asking what it would

take

to convince me [of something]. My answer to that gentleman is quite
simple, 'just write your own opinions, I can reach my own conclusions,

just

as you can'


See above. Furious handwaving and duplicity (on your part) is
mind numbingly as it's seen so bloody often.

....sorry you are *****.
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Would like to know the atheist answer 05 Aug 2003 10:32:27 AM
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 18:04:28 -0400, "xyz" <xyz@attglobal.net>, Message
ID: <3f2ed695_3@news1.prserv.net> wrote in alt.atheism;


"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:30c1699b6b321c2b7f83b95a97d140d8@free.teranews.com...

On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 22:55:45 -0400, "xyz" <xyz@attglobal.net>, Message
ID: <3f2c77db_3@news1.prserv.net> wrote in alt.atheism;

As interesting as the answers given may have been, one of the inescapable
conclusions of this entire thread is that we know absolutely nothing

about

the origins of the universe, if any. We can no more state with

scientific

certainty that it was created, than we can state that it has always

existed.

We can no more prove that it has purpose than we can prove it hasn't.


I figured your initial post was ***** leading to the above drivel.
Your rubbish is seen so often that it has its own spotlight.

Any answer we can imagine constitutes a conjecture.


Nope.

Asserting our beliefs as an
answer constitutes a personal leap of faith. Not recognizing this fact

is

where the trouble lies, as we try to somehow force our leaps of faith (or
non-faith) on others in defense of our moral codes or values, or even

egos.


No belief involved on my end, just yours.

Right or wrong, we humans have built our societies around those leaps of
faith, and the best we can do is tolerate each other's belief. (Or
non-belief, whatever the case may be).


Toleration is a theist penchant which isn't often found. To those who
lack superstition people like you are no different from a child stomping
his/her foot and insisting 'there is TOO a Santa Claus.'

Some folks replied as if I was trying to convince them that they should
believe in God. I am not.

At least one other poster started his response by asking what it would

take

to convince me [of something]. My answer to that gentleman is quite
simple, 'just write your own opinions, I can reach my own conclusions,

just

as you can'


See above. Furious handwaving and duplicity (on your part) is
mind numbingly as it's seen so bloody often.


...sorry you are *****.

I'm not *****, bored almost to tears-yes. Too bad you couldn't be
bothered to actually address the points raised but such wasn't
unexpected.


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.


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