Religions > Atheism > Re: You bite into a York peppermint pattie (or a generic/store branded version....)
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Re: You bite into a York peppermint pattie (or a generic/store branded version....) |
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:04:17 +0200, fungus <burnt@the.stake.com> wrote in
message <qc7%e.103886$US.31788@news.ono.com>:
Only in America would people die in a flood because
it never occurred to them to fucking walk.
When you build a house, build it upon rock, not sand, so that when the rain
and floods come, your house will endure and you will not be swept away like
the evildoers.
addendums:
Choose a rock on *higher ground*.
Make sure it's not a volcano.
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28 Oct 2005 08:08:22 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:59:20 GMT, exquisite witch peachy
<ExquisitePeach@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<YBf8f.16029$tl5.8025@trnddc02>:
Jon wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 01:01:57 GMT, exquisite witch peachy
Jon wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:27:18 GMT, exquisite witch peachy
Jon wrote:
i live in a world with borders. i reject that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the world without
hinderance. nationality should not exist.
And your show of protest is to stay home?
no.
i just don't have a good enough reason to go to all the trouble that is
required to get a visa.
Well.. okay.
What would be a good enough reason?
guaranteed profit. at least $1 million.
i wouldn't go to meet some woman.
Then you are safe from me. Lucky boy!
unless you have over $1 million in short term cash deposits and are easily
persuadable.
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Jon Upfold, universal arsehole, ***** extraordinaire
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28 Oct 2005 03:34:52 PM |
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Jon wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:59:20 GMT, exquisite witch peachy
<ExquisitePeach@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<YBf8f.16029$tl5.8025@trnddc02>:
Jon wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 01:01:57 GMT, exquisite witch peachy
Jon wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:27:18 GMT, exquisite witch peachy
Jon wrote:
i live in a world with borders. i reject that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the world without
hinderance. nationality should not exist.
And your show of protest is to stay home?
no.
i just don't have a good enough reason to go to all the trouble that is
required to get a visa.
Well.. okay.
What would be a good enough reason?
guaranteed profit. at least $1 million.
i wouldn't go to meet some woman.
Then you are safe from me. Lucky boy!
unless you have over $1 million in short term cash deposits and are easily
persuadable.
Nope, sorry. No can do.
I'm a mom and starving college student, you'll have to look elsewhere.
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29 Oct 2005 11:59:12 PM |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:34:52 GMT, exquisite witch peachy
<ExquisitePeach@hotmail.com> wrote in message <MXv8f.914$zT6.909@trnddc06>:
i live in a world with borders. i reject that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the world without
hinderance. nationality should not exist.
And your show of protest is to stay home?
no.
i just don't have a good enough reason to go to all the trouble that is
required to get a visa.
Well.. okay.
What would be a good enough reason?
guaranteed profit. at least $1 million.
i wouldn't go to meet some woman.
Then you are safe from me. Lucky boy!
unless you have over $1 million in short term cash deposits and are easily
persuadable.
Nope, sorry. No can do.
I'm a mom and starving college student, you'll have to look elsewhere.
i can pretty much do anything to you if i give you $1000, huh?
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Jon Upfold, universal arsehole, ***** extraordinaire
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30 Oct 2005 12:08:16 AM |
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Jon wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:34:52 GMT, exquisite witch peachy
<ExquisitePeach@hotmail.com> wrote in message <MXv8f.914$zT6.909@trnddc06>:
i live in a world with borders. i reject that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the world without
hinderance. nationality should not exist.
And your show of protest is to stay home?
no.
i just don't have a good enough reason to go to all the trouble that is
required to get a visa.
Well.. okay.
What would be a good enough reason?
guaranteed profit. at least $1 million.
i wouldn't go to meet some woman.
Then you are safe from me. Lucky boy!
unless you have over $1 million in short term cash deposits and are easily
persuadable.
Nope, sorry. No can do.
I'm a mom and starving college student, you'll have to look elsewhere.
i can pretty much do anything to you if i give you $1000, huh?
Nope.
For the anything you gotta pay a much harder price, for you. You
have to convince me to trust you.
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30 Oct 2005 12:27:22 AM |
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 05:08:16 GMT, exquisite witch peachy
<ExquisitePeach@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<4zY8f.3128$zT6.1007@trnddc06>:
Jon wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:34:52 GMT, exquisite witch peachy
i live in a world with borders. i reject that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the world without
hinderance. nationality should not exist.
And your show of protest is to stay home?
no.
i just don't have a good enough reason to go to all the trouble that is
required to get a visa.
Well.. okay.
What would be a good enough reason?
guaranteed profit. at least $1 million.
i wouldn't go to meet some woman.
Then you are safe from me. Lucky boy!
unless you have over $1 million in short term cash deposits and are easily
persuadable.
Nope, sorry. No can do.
I'm a mom and starving college student, you'll have to look elsewhere.
i can pretty much do anything to you if i give you $1000, huh?
Nope.
For the anything you gotta pay a much harder price, for you. You
have to convince me to trust you.
the alternative is that i buy you dinner and get you drunk, which would cost
me under $100 (here) for both of us - and i'd get change.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Jon Upfold, universal arsehole, ***** extraordinaire
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30 Oct 2005 01:25:18 AM |
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Jon wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 05:08:16 GMT, exquisite witch peachy
<ExquisitePeach@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<4zY8f.3128$zT6.1007@trnddc06>:
Jon wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:34:52 GMT, exquisite witch peachy
i live in a world with borders. i reject that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the world without
hinderance. nationality should not exist.
And your show of protest is to stay home?
no.
i just don't have a good enough reason to go to all the trouble that is
required to get a visa.
Well.. okay.
What would be a good enough reason?
guaranteed profit. at least $1 million.
i wouldn't go to meet some woman.
Then you are safe from me. Lucky boy!
unless you have over $1 million in short term cash deposits and are easily
persuadable.
Nope, sorry. No can do.
I'm a mom and starving college student, you'll have to look elsewhere.
i can pretty much do anything to you if i give you $1000, huh?
Nope.
For the anything you gotta pay a much harder price, for you. You
have to convince me to trust you.
the alternative is that i buy you dinner and get you drunk, which would cost
me under $100 (here) for both of us - and i'd get change.
I'd love dinner, but don't get me drunk, I'll fall asleep.
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30 Oct 2005 05:54:03 AM |
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 06:25:18 GMT, exquisite witch peachy
<ExquisitePeach@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<iHZ8f.22068$7Z5.6380@trnddc07>:
Jon wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 05:08:16 GMT, exquisite witch peachy
Jon wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:34:52 GMT, exquisite witch peachy
i live in a world with borders. i reject that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the world without
hinderance. nationality should not exist.
And your show of protest is to stay home?
no.
i just don't have a good enough reason to go to all the trouble that is
required to get a visa.
Well.. okay.
What would be a good enough reason?
guaranteed profit. at least $1 million.
i wouldn't go to meet some woman.
Then you are safe from me. Lucky boy!
unless you have over $1 million in short term cash deposits and are easily
persuadable.
Nope, sorry. No can do.
I'm a mom and starving college student, you'll have to look elsewhere.
i can pretty much do anything to you if i give you $1000, huh?
Nope.
For the anything you gotta pay a much harder price, for you. You
have to convince me to trust you.
the alternative is that i buy you dinner and get you drunk, which would cost
me under $100 (here) for both of us - and i'd get change.
I'd love dinner, but don't get me drunk, I'll fall asleep.
the only way you'd ever get to meet me, is if you travel to Cape Town.
unlike me, you don't need to go to the inconvenience of obtaining a visa.
you just need a passport and you can catch a plane over anytime you like and
stay for up to 3 months, without applying for an extension.
South Africa will give you the benefit of the doubt and not demand that you
prove that you intend to return to your country of origin.
i can probably also get you accommodation with a local family so you need
not pay exorbitant hotel rates. i run a local online newsletter and i'm sure
i'd have many people willing to offer you a room in their house, if you
wished to stay with a local family. i'm sure they'd love to show you around
too.
i'd be happy to buy you dinner, and i don't need anything in return except
your pleasant company. you can bring your children too and give them a
holiday they will never forget.
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Jon Upfold, universal arsehole, ***** extraordinaire
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25 Oct 2005 02:05:22 AM |
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On Monday 24 October 2005 02:06 pm, Jon wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:14:22 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote in
message <1804027.0VMoEauUWg@max.com>:
Jon wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:37:07 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote in
Cape Town is a first world city, which you would know if you had
actually been here before
May be a paradigm shift kinda thing for ya, but one man's castle is
another man's outhouse.
well obviously you've never been here.
Spend a week or more in Vermont, Colorado, or Montana and I guarantee
you'll see what I'm talking about.
like i said previously, i would have to jump through a number of hoops to
get a visa to visit the US.
i'm not cared enough to do that. i live in a world with borders. i reject
that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the world
without hinderance. nationality should not exist.
like some sort of new world order..
Are you at least talking a _white_ family?
sure.
just end your notice with "kaffirs need not apply".
.."unless one of you works in a diamond mine"
if you stumbled across a rough diamond, you'd throw it away.
How do the kaffirs tell?
they're smarter than you.
kaffirs have over 3 times your earning power.. what's that like?
some black people earn much more than that. good for them. i don't
begrudge them their success.
but the vast majority do not.
We don't give blacks that type of opportunity in the U.S. If they can't run
a 4.2 Forty or shoot three-pointers all day, they're fucked.
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25 Oct 2005 05:49:50 AM |
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:05:22 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote in
message <1130225953.9T9tPzE5zr@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>:
On Monday 24 October 2005 02:06 pm, Jon wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:14:22 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote in
Jon wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:37:07 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote in
Cape Town is a first world city, which you would know if you had
actually been here before
May be a paradigm shift kinda thing for ya, but one man's castle is
another man's outhouse.
well obviously you've never been here.
Spend a week or more in Vermont, Colorado, or Montana and I guarantee
you'll see what I'm talking about.
like i said previously, i would have to jump through a number of hoops to
get a visa to visit the US.
i'm not cared enough to do that. i live in a world with borders. i reject
that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the world
without hinderance. nationality should not exist.
like some sort of new world order..
you have so much fear.
Are you at least talking a _white_ family?
sure.
just end your notice with "kaffirs need not apply".
.."unless one of you works in a diamond mine"
if you stumbled across a rough diamond, you'd throw it away.
How do the kaffirs tell?
they're smarter than you.
kaffirs have over 3 times your earning power.. what's that like?
some black people earn much more than that. good for them. i don't
begrudge them their success.
but the vast majority do not.
We don't give blacks that type of opportunity in the U.S. If they can't run
a 4.2 Forty or shoot three-pointers all day, they're fucked.
Africa doesn't give them many opportunities. South Africa does.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Jon Upfold, universal arsehole, ***** extraordinaire
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26 Oct 2005 02:35:31 AM |
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On Tuesday 25 October 2005 04:49 am, Jon wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:05:22 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote in
message <1130225953.9T9tPzE5zr@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>:
On Monday 24 October 2005 02:06 pm, Jon wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:14:22 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote in
Jon wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:37:07 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote in
Cape Town is a first world city, which you would know if you had
actually been here before
May be a paradigm shift kinda thing for ya, but one man's castle is
another man's outhouse.
well obviously you've never been here.
Spend a week or more in Vermont, Colorado, or Montana and I guarantee
you'll see what I'm talking about.
like i said previously, i would have to jump through a number of hoops
to get a visa to visit the US.
i'm not cared enough to do that. i live in a world with borders. i
reject that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the world
without hinderance. nationality should not exist.
like some sort of new world order..
you have so much fear.
not fear.. amusement at watching the ignorance of those that feel
government is truly looking out for their best interests instead of
undermining, manipulating, and profiting from the very people they're
supposedly governing.
Are you at least talking a _white_ family?
sure.
just end your notice with "kaffirs need not apply".
.."unless one of you works in a diamond mine"
if you stumbled across a rough diamond, you'd throw it away.
How do the kaffirs tell?
they're smarter than you.
kaffirs have over 3 times your earning power.. what's that like?
some black people earn much more than that. good for them. i don't
begrudge them their success.
but the vast majority do not.
We don't give blacks that type of opportunity in the U.S. If they can't
run a 4.2 Forty or shoot three-pointers all day, they're fucked.
Africa doesn't give them many opportunities. South Africa does.
The only bit of South African culture Americans have been exposed to is the
ZA Diplomats in Lethal Weapon 3 that smuggle Krugerands, shoot people at the
slightest provocation, and hate 'kaffirs' as much as Hitler hated Jews.
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26 Oct 2005 07:37:15 PM |
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 07:35:31 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote in
message <1207020.UmVydaNZbt@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>:
On Tuesday 25 October 2005 04:49 am, Jon wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:05:22 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote in
On Monday 24 October 2005 02:06 pm, Jon wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:14:22 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote in
Jon wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:37:07 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote in
Cape Town is a first world city, which you would know if you had
actually been here before
May be a paradigm shift kinda thing for ya, but one man's castle is
another man's outhouse.
well obviously you've never been here.
Spend a week or more in Vermont, Colorado, or Montana and I guarantee
you'll see what I'm talking about.
like i said previously, i would have to jump through a number of hoops
to get a visa to visit the US.
i'm not cared enough to do that. i live in a world with borders. i
reject that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the world
without hinderance. nationality should not exist.
like some sort of new world order..
you have so much fear.
not fear.. amusement at watching the ignorance of those that feel
government is truly looking out for their best interests instead of
undermining, manipulating, and profiting from the very people they're
supposedly governing.
"in the interests of national security" any government can do anything
without anyone being able to know anything about it.
governments like being in a state of war, because then you can getaway with
so much more.
Are you at least talking a _white_ family?
sure.
just end your notice with "kaffirs need not apply".
.."unless one of you works in a diamond mine"
if you stumbled across a rough diamond, you'd throw it away.
How do the kaffirs tell?
they're smarter than you.
kaffirs have over 3 times your earning power.. what's that like?
some black people earn much more than that. good for them. i don't
begrudge them their success.
but the vast majority do not.
We don't give blacks that type of opportunity in the U.S. If they can't
run a 4.2 Forty or shoot three-pointers all day, they're fucked.
Africa doesn't give them many opportunities. South Africa does.
The only bit of South African culture Americans have been exposed to is the
ZA Diplomats in Lethal Weapon 3 that smuggle Krugerands, shoot people at the
slightest provocation, and hate 'kaffirs' as much as Hitler hated Jews.
America has more people who subscribe to Hitler's ideals than there are
South Africans.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Jon Upfold, universal arsehole, ***** extraordinaire
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27 Oct 2005 09:25:13 AM |
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 02:37:15 +0200, "Jon" <jon@upfold.co.za> wrote:
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America has more people who subscribe to Hitler's ideals than there are
South Africans.
You mean hitler clones like George Worthless Bush and his gang of fascists?
Yeah, I hate to say it, but I think you're right, much to my disgust. Blame
it on the godbots and the psychopaths who lead them along like sheep to the
slaughter. It is they who put this madman in the white house. (given the
amount of cronyism in the Bush administration, I think they need to call it
the "***** house" instead.) As long as that mother fucker remains in charge,
nobody on the entire planet is safe.
Right now, I'm waiting with baited breath to see who gets handed indictments
this week.
erikc
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
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28 Oct 2005 04:40:25 AM |
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:25:13 -0600, erikc <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in
message <cbo1m1l1qop64hcqeqf7c0cbamb2vt0jsn@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 02:37:15 +0200, "Jon" <jon@upfold.co.za> wrote:
America has more people who subscribe to Hitler's ideals than there are
South Africans.
You mean hitler clones like George Worthless Bush and his gang of fascists?
no.
I mean Americans who believe that their race group is superior to others.
That includes blacks.
Yeah, I hate to say it, but I think you're right, much to my disgust. Blame
it on the godbots and the psychopaths who lead them along like sheep to the
slaughter. It is they who put this madman in the white house. (given the
amount of cronyism in the Bush administration, I think they need to call it
the "***** house" instead.) As long as that mother fucker remains in charge,
nobody on the entire planet is safe.
Right now, I'm waiting with baited breath to see who gets handed indictments
this week.
erikc
if you believe in Jesus / God, your sole mission in life is to ***** with
other people.
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Jon Upfold, universal arsehole, ***** extraordinaire
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28 Oct 2005 06:55:31 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:40:25 +0200, "Jon" <jon@upfold.co.za> wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:25:13 -0600, erikc <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in
message <cbo1m1l1qop64hcqeqf7c0cbamb2vt0jsn@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 02:37:15 +0200, "Jon" <jon@upfold.co.za> wrote:
America has more people who subscribe to Hitler's ideals than there are
South Africans.
You mean hitler clones like George Worthless Bush and his gang of fascists?
no.
I mean Americans who believe that their race group is superior to others.
That includes blacks.
Yeah, I hate to say it, but I think you're right, much to my disgust. Blame
it on the godbots and the psychopaths who lead them along like sheep to the
slaughter. It is they who put this madman in the white house. (given the
amount of cronyism in the Bush administration, I think they need to call it
the "***** house" instead.) As long as that mother fucker remains in charge,
nobody on the entire planet is safe.
Right now, I'm waiting with baited breath to see who gets handed indictments
this week.
erikc
if you believe in Jesus / God, your sole mission in life is to ***** with
other people.
No *****.
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
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27 Oct 2005 09:47:08 AM |
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erikc wrote:
Right now, I'm waiting with baited breath ...
Use a breath mint, dude.
Greg
....or did you mean *bated* breath
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28 Oct 2005 04:04:30 AM |
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On Wednesday 26 October 2005 06:37 pm, Jon wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 07:35:31 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote in
message <1207020.UmVydaNZbt@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>:
On Tuesday 25 October 2005 04:49 am, Jon wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:05:22 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote in
On Monday 24 October 2005 02:06 pm, Jon wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:14:22 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote in
Jon wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:37:07 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote
in
Cape Town is a first world city, which you would know if you had
actually been here before
May be a paradigm shift kinda thing for ya, but one man's castle is
another man's outhouse.
well obviously you've never been here.
Spend a week or more in Vermont, Colorado, or Montana and I guarantee
you'll see what I'm talking about.
like i said previously, i would have to jump through a number of hoops
to get a visa to visit the US.
i'm not cared enough to do that. i live in a world with borders. i
reject that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the world
without hinderance. nationality should not exist.
like some sort of new world order..
you have so much fear.
not fear.. amusement at watching the ignorance of those that feel
government is truly looking out for their best interests instead of
undermining, manipulating, and profiting from the very people they're
supposedly governing.
"in the interests of national security" any government can do anything
without anyone being able to know anything about it.
governments like being in a state of war, because then you can getaway
with so much more.
...and Bush gave himself and his successors a worldwide visa, no expiration
Are you at least talking a _white_ family?
sure.
just end your notice with "kaffirs need not apply".
.."unless one of you works in a diamond mine"
if you stumbled across a rough diamond, you'd throw it away.
How do the kaffirs tell?
they're smarter than you.
kaffirs have over 3 times your earning power.. what's that like?
some black people earn much more than that. good for them. i don't
begrudge them their success.
but the vast majority do not.
We don't give blacks that type of opportunity in the U.S. If they can't
run a 4.2 Forty or shoot three-pointers all day, they're fucked.
Africa doesn't give them many opportunities. South Africa does.
The only bit of South African culture Americans have been exposed to is
the ZA Diplomats in Lethal Weapon 3 that smuggle Krugerands, shoot people
at the slightest provocation, and hate 'kaffirs' as much as Hitler hated
Jews.
America has more people who subscribe to Hitler's ideals than there are
South Africans.
anyone who voted for Bush the second time around is a Nazi, cut & dried
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28 Oct 2005 08:08:21 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:04:30 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote in
message <14500758.N5y0Duedgn@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>:
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 06:37 pm, Jon wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 07:35:31 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote in
On Tuesday 25 October 2005 04:49 am, Jon wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:05:22 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote in
On Monday 24 October 2005 02:06 pm, Jon wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:14:22 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote in
Jon wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:37:07 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote
Cape Town is a first world city, which you would know if you had
actually been here before
May be a paradigm shift kinda thing for ya, but one man's castle is
another man's outhouse.
well obviously you've never been here.
Spend a week or more in Vermont, Colorado, or Montana and I guarantee
you'll see what I'm talking about.
like i said previously, i would have to jump through a number of hoops
to get a visa to visit the US.
i'm not cared enough to do that. i live in a world with borders. i
reject that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the world
without hinderance. nationality should not exist.
like some sort of new world order..
you have so much fear.
not fear.. amusement at watching the ignorance of those that feel
government is truly looking out for their best interests instead of
undermining, manipulating, and profiting from the very people they're
supposedly governing.
"in the interests of national security" any government can do anything
without anyone being able to know anything about it.
governments like being in a state of war, because then you can getaway
with so much more.
..and Bush gave himself and his successors a worldwide visa, no expiration
sure. and if people think that a Democrat president is going to set it all
straight, they are living in a dream world.
Are you at least talking a _white_ family?
sure.
just end your notice with "kaffirs need not apply".
.."unless one of you works in a diamond mine"
if you stumbled across a rough diamond, you'd throw it away.
How do the kaffirs tell?
they're smarter than you.
kaffirs have over 3 times your earning power.. what's that like?
some black people earn much more than that. good for them. i don't
begrudge them their success.
but the vast majority do not.
We don't give blacks that type of opportunity in the U.S. If they can't
run a 4.2 Forty or shoot three-pointers all day, they're fucked.
Africa doesn't give them many opportunities. South Africa does.
The only bit of South African culture Americans have been exposed to is
the ZA Diplomats in Lethal Weapon 3 that smuggle Krugerands, shoot people
at the slightest provocation, and hate 'kaffirs' as much as Hitler hated
Jews.
America has more people who subscribe to Hitler's ideals than there are
South Africans.
anyone who voted for Bush the second time around is a Nazi, cut & dried
Hitler was voted in by Christians.
anyone who believes that belief in something, without seeing proof, is a
virtue, can be manipulated to do anything.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Jon Upfold, universal arsehole, ***** extraordinaire
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31 Oct 2005 03:11:22 AM |
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On Friday 28 October 2005 07:08 am, Jon wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:04:30 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote in
message <14500758.N5y0Duedgn@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>:
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 06:37 pm, Jon wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 07:35:31 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote in
On Tuesday 25 October 2005 04:49 am, Jon wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:05:22 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote in
On Monday 24 October 2005 02:06 pm, Jon wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:14:22 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote
in
Jon wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:37:07 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm>
wrote
Cape Town is a first world city, which you would know if you had
actually been here before
May be a paradigm shift kinda thing for ya, but one man's castle
is another man's outhouse.
well obviously you've never been here.
Spend a week or more in Vermont, Colorado, or Montana and I
guarantee you'll see what I'm talking about.
like i said previously, i would have to jump through a number of
hoops to get a visa to visit the US.
i'm not cared enough to do that. i live in a world with borders. i
reject that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the world
without hinderance. nationality should not exist.
like some sort of new world order..
you have so much fear.
not fear.. amusement at watching the ignorance of those that feel
government is truly looking out for their best interests instead of
undermining, manipulating, and profiting from the very people they're
supposedly governing.
"in the interests of national security" any government can do anything
without anyone being able to know anything about it.
governments like being in a state of war, because then you can getaway
with so much more.
..and Bush gave himself and his successors a worldwide visa, no expiration
sure. and if people think that a Democrat president is going to set it all
straight, they are living in a dream world.
Hillary, Condoleeza, it doesn't matter.. each carries an unprecedented
mandate to escalate world domination.
Are you at least talking a _white_ family?
sure.
just end your notice with "kaffirs need not apply".
.."unless one of you works in a diamond mine"
if you stumbled across a rough diamond, you'd throw it away.
How do the kaffirs tell?
they're smarter than you.
kaffirs have over 3 times your earning power.. what's that like?
some black people earn much more than that. good for them. i don't
begrudge them their success.
but the vast majority do not.
We don't give blacks that type of opportunity in the U.S. If they
can't run a 4.2 Forty or shoot three-pointers all day, they're fucked.
Africa doesn't give them many opportunities. South Africa does.
The only bit of South African culture Americans have been exposed to is
the ZA Diplomats in Lethal Weapon 3 that smuggle Krugerands, shoot
people at the slightest provocation, and hate 'kaffirs' as much as
Hitler hated Jews.
America has more people who subscribe to Hitler's ideals than there are
South Africans.
anyone who voted for Bush the second time around is a Nazi, cut & dried
Hitler was voted in by Christians.
anyone who believes that belief in something, without seeing proof, is a
virtue, can be manipulated to do anything.
Believing the unbelievable is proof you've been manipulated into a belief.
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31 Oct 2005 09:49:24 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:11:22 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote in
message <14315917.XV4E0WU6Jq@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>:
On Friday 28 October 2005 07:08 am, Jon wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:04:30 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote in
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 06:37 pm, Jon wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 07:35:31 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote in
On Tuesday 25 October 2005 04:49 am, Jon wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:05:22 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote in
On Monday 24 October 2005 02:06 pm, Jon wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:14:22 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m> wrote
Jon wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:37:07 GMT, M <mM@sSrEmOvEr.m>
Cape Town is a first world city, which you would know if you had
actually been here before
May be a paradigm shift kinda thing for ya, but one man's castle
is another man's outhouse.
well obviously you've never been here.
Spend a week or more in Vermont, Colorado, or Montana and I
guarantee you'll see what I'm talking about.
like i said previously, i would have to jump through a number of
hoops to get a visa to visit the US.
i'm not cared enough to do that. i live in a world with borders. i
reject that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the world
without hinderance. nationality should not exist.
like some sort of new world order..
you have so much fear.
not fear.. amusement at watching the ignorance of those that feel
government is truly looking out for their best interests instead of
undermining, manipulating, and profiting from the very people they're
supposedly governing.
"in the interests of national security" any government can do anything
without anyone being able to know anything about it.
governments like being in a state of war, because then you can getaway
with so much more.
..and Bush gave himself and his successors a worldwide visa, no expiration
sure. and if people think that a Democrat president is going to set it all
straight, they are living in a dream world.
Hillary, Condoleeza, it doesn't matter.. each carries an unprecedented
mandate to escalate world domination.
i vote that the entire world attacks America tonight.
survivors must all turn on each other and kill kill kill until no one is
alive. the last person alive, must kill themselves.
it's time to end this fucking madness.
Are you at least talking a _white_ family?
sure.
just end your notice with "kaffirs need not apply".
.."unless one of you works in a diamond mine"
if you stumbled across a rough diamond, you'd throw it away.
How do the kaffirs tell?
they're smarter than you.
kaffirs have over 3 times your earning power.. what's that like?
some black people earn much more than that. good for them. i don't
begrudge them their success.
but the vast majority do not.
We don't give blacks that type of opportunity in the U.S. If they
can't run a 4.2 Forty or shoot three-pointers all day, they're fucked.
Africa doesn't give them many opportunities. South Africa does.
The only bit of South African culture Americans have been exposed to is
the ZA Diplomats in Lethal Weapon 3 that smuggle Krugerands, shoot
people at the slightest provocation, and hate 'kaffirs' as much as
Hitler hated Jews.
America has more people who subscribe to Hitler's ideals than there are
South Africans.
anyone who voted for Bush the second time around is a Nazi, cut & dried
Hitler was voted in by Christians.
anyone who believes that belief in something, without seeing proof, is a
virtue, can be manipulated to do anything.
Believing the unbelievable is proof you've been manipulated into a belief.
my belief is that all of humanity must die tonight.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Jon Upfold, universal arsehole, ***** extraordinaire
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31 Oct 2005 11:36:11 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:49:24 +0200, "Jon" <jon@upfold.co.za> wrote:
i vote that the entire world attacks America tonight.
survivors must all turn on each other and kill kill kill until no one is
alive. the last person alive, must kill themselves.
it's time to end this fucking madness.
my belief is that all of humanity must die tonight.
Lead the way, dude. Show us how it is done.
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
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01 Nov 2005 04:13:44 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:36:11 -0600, erikc <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in
message <kpkcm1dpfsgro4u7sg904u7r5peqclambf@4ax.com>:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:49:24 +0200, "Jon" <jon@upfold.co.za> wrote:
i vote that the entire world attacks America tonight.
survivors must all turn on each other and kill kill kill until no one is
alive. the last person alive, must kill themselves.
it's time to end this fucking madness.
my belief is that all of humanity must die tonight.
Lead the way, dude. Show us how it is done.
you sad sack. order some originality.
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Jon Upfold, universal arsehole, ***** extraordinaire
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01 Nov 2005 02:10:07 AM |
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On Monday 31 October 2005 08:49 am, Jon wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:11:22 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote in
message <14315917.XV4E0WU6Jq@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>:
On Friday 28 October 2005 07:08 am, Jon wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:04:30 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote in
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 06:37 pm, Jon wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 07:35:31 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote in
On Tuesday 25 October 2005 04:49 am, Jon wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:05:22 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm> wrote
in
On Monday 24 October 2005 02:06 pm, Jon wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:14:22 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm>
wrote
Jon wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:37:07 GMT, MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm>
Cape Town is a first world city, which you would know if you
had actually been here before
May be a paradigm shift kinda thing for ya, but one man's castle
is another man's outhouse.
well obviously you've never been here.
Spend a week or more in Vermont, Colorado, or Montana and I
guarantee you'll see what I'm talking about.
like i said previously, i would have to jump through a number of
hoops to get a visa to visit the US.
i'm not cared enough to do that. i live in a world with borders. i
reject that entire concept.
every human being should have the right to go anywhere in the
world without hinderance. nationality should not exist.
like some sort of new world order..
you have so much fear.
not fear.. amusement at watching the ignorance of those that feel
government is truly looking out for their best interests instead of
undermining, manipulating, and profiting from the very people they're
supposedly governing.
"in the interests of national security" any government can do anything
without anyone being able to know anything about it.
governments like being in a state of war, because then you can getaway
with so much more.
..and Bush gave himself and his successors a worldwide visa, no
expiration
sure. and if people think that a Democrat president is going to set it
all straight, they are living in a dream world.
Hillary, Condoleeza, it doesn't matter.. each carries an unprecedented
mandate to escalate world domination.
i vote that the entire world attacks America tonight.
survivors must all turn on each other and kill kill kill until no one is
alive. the last person alive, must kill themselves.
it's time to end this fucking madness.
we're too damn powerful
I'd love to see China and North Korea simultaneously launch everything they
had at Los Angeles.. we'd shoot every last one of 'em down and turn the
Far East into a billion-worker sweatshop.
Are you at least talking a _white_ family?
sure.
just end your notice with "kaffirs need not apply".
.."unless one of you works in a diamond mine"
if you stumbled across a rough diamond, you'd throw it away.
How do the kaffirs tell?
they're smarter than you.
kaffirs have over 3 times your earning power.. what's that like?
some black people earn much more than that. good for them. i don't
begrudge them their success.
but the vast majority do not.
We don't give blacks that type of opportunity in the U.S. If they
can't run a 4.2 Forty or shoot three-pointers all day, they're
fucked.
Africa doesn't give them many opportunities. South Africa does.
The only bit of South African culture Americans have been exposed to
is the ZA Diplomats in Lethal Weapon 3 that smuggle Krugerands, shoot
people at the slightest provocation, and hate 'kaffirs' as much as
Hitler hated Jews.
America has more people who subscribe to Hitler's ideals than there
are South Africans.
anyone who voted for Bush the second time around is a Nazi, cut & dried
Hitler was voted in by Christians.
anyone who believes that belief in something, without seeing proof, is a
virtue, can be manipulated to do anything.
Believing the unbelievable is proof you've been manipulated into a belief.
my belief is that all of humanity must die tonight.
the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step..
<empties three MAC-10 clips into Jon>
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01 Oct 2005 08:37:42 AM |
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In article <3q7eooFdknqaU1@individual.net>,
gregIGNOREevans@charter.BLATHER.net says...
quibbler, proving the aptness of his handle, wrote:
Therefore, jesus fails to make an intelligent distinction
between sand and rock.
And you fail to make an intelligent distinction between common sense
Incorrect. The fault is with Jesus for not displaying enough common
sense to know that sand is a form of rock. I'm just pointing out how
silly his oversight was. Yes, we all know what he was trying to say,
but, as usual, he fucked it up, just like he fucked up the golden rule
and many alleged bible citations. If jesus existed at all then he was a
very mediocre rabbi.
and a
manufactured debate point.
You obviously haven't done a lot of debate if you're still railing about
how it can seem "manufactured" at times. Maybe it's a technicality, but
I still win the point. I TKOed jebus.
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01 Oct 2005 11:47:08 AM |
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quibbler wrote:
In article <3q7eooFdknqaU1@individual.net>,
gregIGNOREevans@charter.BLATHER.net says...
quibbler, proving the aptness of his handle, wrote:
Therefore, jesus fails to make an intelligent distinction
between sand and rock.
And you fail to make an intelligent distinction between common sense
Incorrect. The fault is with Jesus for not displaying enough common
sense to know that sand is a form of rock. I'm just pointing out how
silly his oversight was. Yes, we all know what he was trying to say,
but, as usual, he fucked it up, just like he fucked up the golden rule
and many alleged bible citations. If jesus existed at all then he was a
very mediocre rabbi.
First off there were no "Rabbis" in Jesus' day, that is a myth.
"Rabbis" are a product of the Talmud, a huge idiotic commentary
on the OT completed 400 CE (Jerusalem) and 500 CE (Babylonian),
and the post-Temple system of Synagogues. In Jesus' day there
were "Doctors of the Law" ("Law" = Torah- first five books of
the OT). "Rabbis" in Jesus' day is as anachronistic as imagining
Christopher Columbus checking out the yachts at his local Sea Ray
dealer.
Second, in an area where you've got a little bit of fertile soil
along a river running through a place where there's nothing but
fucking sand and rocks, sand vs. rock is an important distinction.
You've got sand and you've got rock. So now a big wind comes along,
and the sand blows around but the rocks stay put. Jesus was talking
in terms the locals could understand. If he was in New Orleans
he'd be talking about brick houses on hills vs. wood frame houses
down below sea level.
(Paraphrase) "Your soul is like a brick house up on a hill in a
white neighborhood, your body is like a wood frame house down
by the levee in a black neighborhood."
Are you getting this? Or is your brain like a 1972 Ford Pinto at
a NASCAR race?
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01 Oct 2005 05:04:22 PM |
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In article <g4z%e.16212$7b6.10545@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
dda@rr.rochester.com says...
Incorrect. The fault is with Jesus for not displaying enough common
sense to know that sand is a form of rock. I'm just pointing out how
silly his oversight was. Yes, we all know what he was trying to say,
but, as usual, he fucked it up, just like he fucked up the golden rule
and many alleged bible citations. If jesus existed at all then he was a
very mediocre rabbi.
First off there were no "Rabbis" in Jesus' day, that is a myth.
Jewish rabbis certainly codified hundreds of years of teachings into the
talmud. However, the NT epistles and gospels make numerous references to
rabbis and these documents are dated to between 50 and 150CE. Even
though jesus was not real, the stories told about him include many
references to rabbis. Jesus was tried, after all, by the great
sanhedrin, which certainly had to be made up of rabbis. In acts 22 paul
claims to have studied under the great rabbi Gamaliel.
"Rabbis" are a product of the Talmud, a huge idiotic commentary
on the OT
Yeah, it's pretty fucking boring, though good for some laughs at spots.
If I ever have trouble falling asleep in a hurry then a tractate can come
in handy.
<schnippp>
Second, in an area where you've got a little bit of fertile soil
along a river running through a place where there's nothing but
fucking sand and rocks, sand vs. rock is an important distinction.
Actually, in any place you've got bedrock if you go down far enough. In
desert areas the sand often gets carried away and one is left with
"desert pavement".
You've got sand and you've got rock. So now a big wind comes along,
and the sand blows around but the rocks stay put. Jesus was talking
in terms the locals could understand.
Naw, it might be more easily understandable for me to tell a 3-year-old
that the moon is a big piece of cheese, but that still doesn't make such
a teaching factually accurate. Jesus talked about rock being distinct
from sand because he obviously didn't recognize that sand is a form of
rock.
If he was in New Orleans
he'd be talking about brick houses on hills vs. wood frame houses
down below sea level.
(Paraphrase) "Your soul is like a brick house up on a hill in a
white neighborhood, your body is like a wood frame house down
by the levee in a black neighborhood."
That analogy ought to earn you the Bill Bennett Racial Sensitivity Award.
Unfortunately, I think he might have lost his last one in a poker match.
But I'm sure that if you wear your whitest sheet to the next clan rally
that you can find someone willing to part with one.
Are you getting this?
Oh I understand what you think you're trying to say, though you don't
have much of actual substance to say. Jesus was still wrong to presume
that sand is not a form of rock. He could have said, "Build on solid
rock foundations only which do not include things like sand or
sandstone." It's not like Jesus didn't have other awkwardly worded,
bizarre teachings.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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01 Oct 2005 09:46:45 PM |
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quibbler wrote:
In article <g4z%e.16212$7b6.10545@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
dda@rr.rochester.com says...
Incorrect. The fault is with Jesus for not displaying enough common
sense to know that sand is a form of rock. I'm just pointing out how
silly his oversight was. Yes, we all know what he was trying to say,
but, as usual, he fucked it up, just like he fucked up the golden rule
and many alleged bible citations. If jesus existed at all then he was a
very mediocre rabbi.
First off there were no "Rabbis" in Jesus' day, that is a myth.
Jewish rabbis certainly codified hundreds of years of teachings into the
talmud. However, the NT epistles and gospels make numerous references to
rabbis and these documents are dated to between 50 and 150CE. Even
though jesus was not real, the stories told about him include many
references to rabbis. Jesus was tried, after all, by the great
sanhedrin, which certainly had to be made up of rabbis. In acts 22 paul
claims to have studied under the great rabbi Gamaliel.
That's great, considering the first use of the word "Rabbi" is in the
Mishnah, which was published c. 200 CE. Again, there were no Rabbis in
Jesus' day. That is an anachronism. In Saul's lifetime, Gamaliel was
a member of the Sanhedrin and considered to be a Doctor of the Law. He
didn't earn the title of Rabbi until long after he and Saul were dust.
By the same method, I can give Jefferson an honorary degree in genetic
engineering... too bad he doesn't know anything about it.
CHAPTER 22
1 Men, brethren, and fathers, hear ye my defence which I make now unto
you.
2 (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they
kept the more silence: and he saith,)
3 I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia,
yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught
according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was
zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.
"Rabbis" are a product of the Talmud, a huge idiotic commentary
on the OT
Yeah, it's pretty fucking boring, though good for some laughs at spots.
If I ever have trouble falling asleep in a hurry then a tractate can come
in handy.
<schnippp>
Second, in an area where you've got a little bit of fertile soil
along a river running through a place where there's nothing but
fucking sand and rocks, sand vs. rock is an important distinction.
Actually, in any place you've got bedrock if you go down far enough. In
desert areas the sand often gets carried away and one is left with
"desert pavement".
You've got sand and you've got rock. So now a big wind comes along,
and the sand blows around but the rocks stay put. Jesus was talking
in terms the locals could understand.
Naw, it might be more easily understandable for me to tell a 3-year-old
that the moon is a big piece of cheese, but that still doesn't make such
a teaching factually accurate. Jesus talked about rock being distinct
from sand because he obviously didn't recognize that sand is a form of
rock.
If he was in New Orleans
he'd be talking about brick houses on hills vs. wood frame houses
down below sea level.
(Paraphrase) "Your soul is like a brick house up on a hill in a
white neighborhood, your body is like a wood frame house down
by the levee in a black neighborhood."
That analogy ought to earn you the Bill Bennett Racial Sensitivity Award.
Unfortunately, I think he might have lost his last one in a poker match.
But I'm sure that if you wear your whitest sheet to the next clan rally
that you can find someone willing to part with one.
Are you getting this?
Oh I understand what you think you're trying to say, though you don't
have much of actual substance to say. Jesus was still wrong to presume
that sand is not a form of rock. He could have said, "Build on solid
rock foundations only which do not include things like sand or
sandstone." It's not like Jesus didn't have other awkwardly worded,
bizarre teachings.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Sand is a form of rock, Jebus, you stupid ***** |
01 Oct 2005 10:32:07 PM |
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In article <pSH%e.16999$7b6.6070@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
dda@rr.rochester.com says...
That's great, considering the first use of the word "Rabbi" is in the
Mishnah, which was published c. 200 CE.
The word "rabbi" appears 16 times in the new testament gospels of mark,
matthew and john, for example and mark is believed to have been written
around 70 CE.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: Sand is a form of rock, Jebus, you stupid ***** |
01 Oct 2005 10:51:35 PM |
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quibbler wrote:
In article <pSH%e.16999$7b6.6070@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
dda@rr.rochester.com says...
That's great, considering the first use of the word "Rabbi" is in the
Mishnah, which was published c. 200 CE.
The word "rabbi" appears 16 times in the new testament gospels of mark,
matthew and john, for example and mark is believed to have been written
around 70 CE.
Of course the word "rabbi" meaning "teacher" existed. It did not have
the same meaning as the post Mishnah official title "Rabbi". In the NT
the sense is that the apostles should not be addressed as "teacher"
because they are not to be considered different from anyone else. In
the Mishnah and Talmud, "Rabbi" takes on a whole different meaning,
similar to modern words like "Professor", suggesting a super-human
entity.
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| User: "ms" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Sand is a form of rock, Jebus, you stupid ***** |
03 Oct 2005 08:08:21 AM |
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 16:47:08 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote:
~quibbler wrote:
~> In article <3q7eooFdknqaU1@individual.net>,
~> says...
~>
~>>quibbler, proving the aptness of his handle, wrote:
~>>
~>>
~>>>Therefore, jesus fails to make an intelligent
distinction
~>>>between sand and rock.
~>>
~>>And you fail to make an intelligent distinction between
common sense
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~>
~> Incorrect. The fault is with Jesus for not displaying
enough common
~> sense to know that sand is a form of rock. I'm just
pointing out how
~> silly his oversight was. Yes, we all know what he was
trying to say,
~> but, as usual, he fucked it up, just like he fucked up
the golden rule
~> and many alleged bible citations. If jesus existed at
all then he was a
~> very mediocre rabbi.
~>
~First off there were no "Rabbis" in Jesus' day, that is a
myth.
~"Rabbis" are a product of the Talmud, a huge idiotic
commentary
~on the OT completed 400 CE (Jerusalem) and 500 CE
(Babylonian),
~and the post-Temple system of Synagogues. In Jesus' day
there
~were "Doctors of the Law" ("Law" = Torah- first five books
of
~the OT). "Rabbis" in Jesus' day is as anachronistic as
imagining
~Christopher Columbus checking out the yachts at his local
Sea Ray
~dealer.
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~Second, in an area where you've got a little bit of fertile
soil
~along a river running through a place where there's nothing
but
~fucking sand and rocks, sand vs. rock is an important
distinction.
~You've got sand and you've got rock. So now a big wind
comes along,
~and the sand blows around but the rocks stay put. Jesus was
talking
~in terms the locals could understand. If he was in New
Orleans
~he'd be talking about brick houses on hills vs. wood frame
houses
~down below sea level.
~(Paraphrase) "Your soul is like a brick house up on a hill
in a
~white neighborhood, your body is like a wood frame house
down
~by the levee in a black neighborhood."
~Are you getting this? Or is your brain like a 1972 Ford
Pinto at
~a NASCAR race?
Just curious ...
If the Torah is the law and Jesus said "I have come to
fulfill the law", doesn't that mean any true Christian has
to believe the creation story, etc? I don't think most do
any more but, isn't there a real disconnect here -- given
the NT part of the bible is supposed to be the **true** word
of god that is also called the new covenant and is the very
essence of christianity? How could anybody be a christian
and doubt those first 5 books?
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: Sand is a form of rock, Jebus, you stupid ***** |
03 Oct 2005 06:49:39 PM |
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ms wrote:
Just curious ...
If the Torah is the law and Jesus said "I have come to
fulfill the law", doesn't that mean any true Christian has
to believe the creation story, etc? I don't think most do
any more but, isn't there a real disconnect here -- given
the NT part of the bible is supposed to be the **true** word
of god that is also called the new covenant and is the very
essence of christianity? How could anybody be a christian
and doubt those first 5 books?
And of course in the very next line in Mathew, Jesus also declares
that "until heaven and earth shall pass, one jot or one tittle shall
in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled". As far as I can
tell, heaven and earth have not passed and there's still a lot left
undone... how do things look out your way? Yet many who profess to
be Christians don't see both edges of the sword, the see the "forgive
and be merciful" side but not the "strive to be righteous in the law
despite the fact that you are doomed to fall short" side. Even Jesus
needed a hand carrying his cross when he stumbled.
As far as "creation" is concerned, I personally see no conflict
between the two, heck, God created evolution. The moment a human
egg and sperm fuse together into a single cell, the future man or
woman is already defined in complete detail, except for minor
differences like getting run over by a tank or having tattoos and
piercings all over, and in the same way all of future creatures
were predefined in the first living RNA/DNA, including the
"schedule" of when adaptive mutations would come about. It's not
even a century since the first antibiotics were discovered, hardly
a century since the first man made radio signal, not even a century
since Senator Robert Byrd was born, and people think they know
everything there is to know! Especially atheists and winos.
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