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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Jb"
Date: 03 Apr 2004 01:13:16 PM
Object: Re: Zodiac Hoax
"SMChristenson" <smchris@visi.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:48:13 -0800, justanotherplant wrote:

SMChristenson <smchris@visi.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 00:34:25 -0800, justanotherplant wrote:

perhaps atheists will have salient opinions on this subject. i am
interested in their opinions.


I know a woman who is nuts for astrology. She has had a hard life and
it has put her in contact with all sorts of people. She would say she
doesn't have any of the typical governmentally-proscribed prejudices.
So it is fascinating that she immediately wants to give people an
astrological classification. I see it as a security blanket that
highlights her deep-seated fear and insecurity. It gives her a
world-view where she perceives that she has some control.


hmm, seems like a radical view-point.


She's had a radical life. In the absence of education or church,
astrology gives her a world view. And why should she not see it as a
useful tool when she can find an element of kindness

While She/He/IT is sticking it's fat ugly hand into her wallet, bank
account, etc. to enforce an unrealistic view of his/her so-called
fate/kismet (call it what you will) that has nothing to do with the real
world? Give me a break...LOL..
The point is that a reasoning being shouldn't stoop to the level of
believing in a fictious "fate" that never has, and never will exist.
Whatever happened to free will, and a freely lived life? Is there a writ in
stone that a life is to be followed only by the stars??
Is there even a ~small~ inkling that Astrology is even pertinent to the
development of the human species?

in this person or an
element of obstinance in that person, etc., etc.? The sign predicted it!

what's your sign?

Sagittarius - make something out of that...LOL...


Hare in a Toad Hole



Jack
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User: "SMChristenson"

Title: Re: Zodiac Hoax 03 Apr 2004 05:34:48 PM
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:13:16 -0700, Jb wrote:

"SMChristenson" <smchris@visi.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.03.25.14.17.43.589934@visi.com...

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:48:13 -0800, justanotherplant wrote:

SMChristenson <smchris@visi.com> wrote in message
news:<pan.2004.03.25.00.50.23.775807@visi.com>...

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 00:34:25 -0800, justanotherplant wrote:

perhaps atheists will have salient opinions on this subject. i am
interested in their opinions.


I know a woman who is nuts for astrology. She has had a hard life
and it has put her in contact with all sorts of people. She would
say she doesn't have any of the typical governmentally-proscribed
prejudices. So it is fascinating that she immediately wants to give
people an astrological classification. I see it as a security
blanket that highlights her deep-seated fear and insecurity. It
gives her a world-view where she perceives that she has some
control.


hmm, seems like a radical view-point.


She's had a radical life. In the absence of education or church,
astrology gives her a world view. And why should she not see it as a
useful tool when she can find an element of kindness


While She/He/IT is sticking it's fat ugly hand into her wallet, bank
account, etc. to enforce an unrealistic view of his/her so-called
fate/kismet (call it what you will) that has nothing to do with the real
world? Give me a break...LOL..

Yeah, yeah. But don't you see the appeal for the uneducated? I have a
belief that most higher animals have the capability for superstious
behavior. The first thing you do is ask what sign a person is. Then you
will be selectively looking for actions that reinforce your beliefs about
that person. Like magic, THERE THEY ARE! (Not surprising since humans
generally display human traits.) But it is reinforcing confirmation for
them about the "truth" of astrology.
Quite subtly pernicious really, like the variable interval reinforcement
of gambling.

what's your sign?


Sagittarius - make something out of that...LOL...


Hare in a Toad Hole

I'm affronted that the original poster didn't follow up on this. It's a
perfectly good oriental astrology designation. I had a Pythonesque
sceptical punchline. I was impressed that the "life chart" for Hare in a
Toad Hole was in very good agreement with how I saw my life. (With
appropriate wizardly vagueness: "A non-parent elderly person will be
significant to your early adulthood". Yeah, right.) So my punchline has
been:
"If you don't believe in astrology, keep checking out other astrologies
around the world until you find one you do!" (as in, "You are the
Messiah!")
.


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