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"Jason Gastrich" |
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03 Mar 2005 01:07:22 AM |
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Read Free Books |
See Vincent Cheung's Free Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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03 Mar 2005 02:27:43 PM |
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Another instance of "you get what you pay for."
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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03 Mar 2005 02:28:56 PM |
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Another instance of "you get what you pay for."
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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| User: "David D." |
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| Title: Re: Read Free Books |
03 Mar 2005 09:46:52 AM |
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David wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Christian Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
And for those who don't want to give Jason any "hit"
credit, just use:
http://www.rmiweb.org
Thanks for the direct link. I read one of his pamphelets.
Well actually I skipped to the end to read the take home
message. This is what I found;
"Our goal is the total humiliation and annihilation of non
-Christian scholarship; our purpose is to beat back and
crush its head with Reason until it bows before the throne
of Christ."
The capitalizartion of the word reason is as written in the
pamphlet. Scary stuff!!!!
Davbid D. aa#2219
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| User: "Frank J Warner" |
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03 Mar 2005 11:51:16 AM |
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In article <1109864812.644339.121350@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
David D. <daycd@hotmail.com> wrote:
David wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Christian Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
And for those who don't want to give Jason any "hit"
credit, just use:
http://www.rmiweb.org
Thanks for the direct link. I read one of his pamphelets.
Well actually I skipped to the end to read the take home
message. This is what I found;
"Our goal is the total humiliation and annihilation of non
-Christian scholarship; our purpose is to beat back and
crush its head with Reason until it bows before the throne
of Christ."
The capitalizartion of the word reason is as written in the
pamphlet. Scary stuff!!!!
ngs trimmed
I got a big kick out of the pamphlet entitled "Professional Morons."
Seems it's targeted at the wrong set of folks, though.
-Frank
--
fwarner1-at-franksknives-dot-com
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Read Free Books |
03 Mar 2005 10:31:52 AM |
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In our last episode
<1109864812.644339.121350@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, David D.
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
David wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Christian Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
And for those who don't want to give Jason any "hit" credit, just use:
http://www.rmiweb.org
Thanks for the direct link. I read one of his pamphelets. Well actually I
skipped to the end to read the take home message. This is what I found;
"Our goal is the total humiliation and annihilation of non -Christian
scholarship; our purpose is to beat back and crush its head with Reason
until it bows before the throne of Christ."
The capitalizartion of the word reason is as written in the pamphlet.
Scary stuff!!!!
You know, it hardly surprises me Gastrich is leaning toward the presups.
Especially given their entire argument boils down to:
1. I'm right.
2. Therefore I'm right.
3. This is logic dammit!
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Group website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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03 Mar 2005 12:25:26 PM |
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In article <VoGdnTVMhMtlprrfRVn-sg@megapath.net> "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> writes:
In our last episode
<1109864812.644339.121350@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, David D.
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
David wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Christian Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
And for those who don't want to give Jason any "hit" credit, just use:
http://www.rmiweb.org
Thanks for the direct link. I read one of his pamphelets. Well actually I
skipped to the end to read the take home message. This is what I found;
"Our goal is the total humiliation and annihilation of non -Christian
scholarship; our purpose is to beat back and crush its head with Reason
until it bows before the throne of Christ."
The capitalizartion of the word reason is as written in the pamphlet.
Scary stuff!!!!
You know, it hardly surprises me Gastrich is leaning toward the presups.
Especially given their entire argument boils down to:
1. I'm right.
2. Therefore I'm right.
3. This is logic dammit!
Heh.
"presups"? I had to go look that one up.
Man! I mean, who ordered that?
The basic premise, if I understood it, is that whatever fundamental concept
explains the most of what we see is the concept which is most likely
to be correct. If I've got that right, then fine: that's exactly
how science views things too.
But how do they get from there to "the reality of the 'self-contained' triune
God and the self-attesting revelation of the Scriptures" as being the leading
candidate?
Do I really want to know?
[quote from: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/webpages54/ap/presup.html]
-- cary
(this is so delicious I cannot refrain from expanding to `alt.education')
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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04 Mar 2005 08:15:31 AM |
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In our last episode <d07kqm$87a$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>, Cary Kittrell
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
In article <VoGdnTVMhMtlprrfRVn-sg@megapath.net> "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> writes:
In our last episode
<1109864812.644339.121350@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, David D.
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
David wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Christian Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
And for those who don't want to give Jason any "hit" credit, just
use:
http://www.rmiweb.org
Thanks for the direct link. I read one of his pamphelets. Well
actually I skipped to the end to read the take home message. This is
what I found;
"Our goal is the total humiliation and annihilation of non -Christian
scholarship; our purpose is to beat back and crush its head with
Reason until it bows before the throne of Christ."
The capitalizartion of the word reason is as written in the pamphlet.
Scary stuff!!!!
You know, it hardly surprises me Gastrich is leaning toward the presups.
Especially given their entire argument boils down to:
1. I'm right.
2. Therefore I'm right.
3. This is logic dammit!
Heh.
"presups"? I had to go look that one up.
Man! I mean, who ordered that?
The basic premise, if I understood it, is that whatever fundamental
concept explains the most of what we see is the concept which is most
likely to be correct. If I've got that right, then fine: that's exactly
how science views things too.
But how do they get from there to "the reality of the 'self-contained'
triune God and the self-attesting revelation of the Scriptures" as being
the leading candidate?
They simply "presuppose" it of course.
They're an interesting (if weird) bunch. They have things partially right.
The best fit explanation is the most likely to be correct (or, better,
*useful... "right" and "correct" being slippery terms). Such as in science
there are unproven (and sometimes unproveable) assumptions. The question
of whether these "presuppositions" are worthwhile depends on where you end
up. If it's somewhere useful, they must be useful. If somewhere useless,
even incoherent, they aren't useful and should be discarded.
The "presups" try to ape this by simply declaring arguments they don't
like as "incoherent" or "illogical" or even accuse you of insanity. Since
they've assumed their conclusion, you "cannot" be logical or rational or
even sane if you argue against their position.
After all, they cannot admit to any kind of standard for judging their
position because they've simply assumed--a priori--their god *is the
standard. That leaves them with not much to do other than hurl ad hominem.
Behind all the verbiage is, basically, a foot stomping tantrum. It shows
very clearly in the writings of this Vincent Cheung. He's having a hissy
fit. "I'm right! I'm right!! I'm right!!!"
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Group website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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04 Mar 2005 10:26:04 AM |
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In article <h4adnV_-ILYe8LXfRVn-1w@megapath.net>> From: "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> writes:
In our last episode <d07kqm$87a$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>, Cary Kittrell
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
In article <VoGdnTVMhMtlprrfRVn-sg@megapath.net> "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> writes:
In our last episode
<1109864812.644339.121350@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, David D.
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
David wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Christian Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
And for those who don't want to give Jason any "hit" credit, just
use:
http://www.rmiweb.org
Thanks for the direct link. I read one of his pamphelets. Well
actually I skipped to the end to read the take home message. This is
what I found;
"Our goal is the total humiliation and annihilation of non -Christian
scholarship; our purpose is to beat back and crush its head with
Reason until it bows before the throne of Christ."
The capitalizartion of the word reason is as written in the pamphlet.
Scary stuff!!!!
You know, it hardly surprises me Gastrich is leaning toward the presups.
Especially given their entire argument boils down to:
1. I'm right.
2. Therefore I'm right.
3. This is logic dammit!
Heh.
"presups"? I had to go look that one up.
Man! I mean, who ordered that?
The basic premise, if I understood it, is that whatever fundamental
concept explains the most of what we see is the concept which is most
likely to be correct. If I've got that right, then fine: that's exactly
how science views things too.
But how do they get from there to "the reality of the 'self-contained'
triune God and the self-attesting revelation of the Scriptures" as being
the leading candidate?
They simply "presuppose" it of course.
They're an interesting (if weird) bunch. They have things partially right.
The best fit explanation is the most likely to be correct (or, better,
*useful... "right" and "correct" being slippery terms). Such as in science
there are unproven (and sometimes unproveable) assumptions. The question
of whether these "presuppositions" are worthwhile depends on where you end
up. If it's somewhere useful, they must be useful. If somewhere useless,
even incoherent, they aren't useful and should be discarded.
The "presups" try to ape this by simply declaring arguments they don't
like as "incoherent" or "illogical" or even accuse you of insanity. Since
they've assumed their conclusion, you "cannot" be logical or rational or
even sane if you argue against their position.
Ah, the old self-contained unassailable logical system trick. Gotta
love it. Are we in the mood for solipsism or for schizophrenia today?
After all, they cannot admit to any kind of standard for judging their
position because they've simply assumed--a priori--their god *is the
standard. That leaves them with not much to do other than hurl ad hominem.
Behind all the verbiage is, basically, a foot stomping tantrum. It shows
very clearly in the writings of this Vincent Cheung. He's having a hissy
fit. "I'm right! I'm right!! I'm right!!!"
Very interesting essay. I thank you.
-- cary
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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03 Mar 2005 03:08:19 PM |
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On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 18:25:26 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) said in alt.atheism:
The basic premise, if I understood it, is that whatever fundamental concept
explains the most of what we see is the concept which is most likely
to be correct. If I've got that right, then fine: that's exactly
how science views things too.
But how do they get from there to "the reality of the 'self-contained' triune
God and the self-attesting revelation of the Scriptures"
The bible is correct in all things because the bible says it's
correct. That's the most fundamental Christic belief. Have you
forgotten that?
--
rukbat at verizon dot net
"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want
you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...Our
goal is a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by
God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want
pluralism."
-Randall Terry, Founder of Operation Rescue, The News-Sentinel, Fort
Wayne, Indiana, 8-16-93
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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03 Mar 2005 07:52:28 AM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
Why do you continue to post to alt.atheism, even after you stated you
have killfiled a good number of it's members?
And to correct your misconception, "Dr." Jason:
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting
different results."
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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| User: "Jason Gastrich" |
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03 Mar 2005 11:19:07 AM |
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See Vincent Cheung's Free Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
Why do you continue to post to alt.atheism, even after you stated you
have killfiled a good number of it's members?
I figured they still read books and like free ones.
Jason
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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03 Mar 2005 11:48:12 AM |
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In article <fGHVd.18478$VD5.61@twister.socal.rr.com>> From: "Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com>writes:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
Why do you continue to post to alt.atheism, even after you stated you
have killfiled a good number of it's members?
I figured they still read books and like free ones.
Well, I for one must admit I enjoyed his logic.
Paraphrased example:
there are an infinite number of possible scientific theories,
therefore any given scientific theory has a one divided by
infinity chance of being correct, or a zero chance of being correct.
Of course one would expect next to see:
there are an infinite number of conceivable gods,
therefore any given god has a one divided by
infinity chance of being The One, thus a zero
chance of being The Actual God.
But that part was missing. Next edition, perhaps...
-- cary
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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03 Mar 2005 11:47:01 AM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
Why do you continue to post to alt.atheism, even after you stated you
have killfiled a good number of it's members?
I figured they still read books and like free ones.
Jason
Not of your type of books.
But then you already knew that.
BTW, fixed your cut 'n paste error yet?
Bet not. Bet you will even say it's not an error, and still be unable
to admit you made a human mistake.
Darn, go figure.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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| User: "Jason Gastrich" |
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03 Mar 2005 12:03:32 PM |
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <> wrote in message
news:S4IVd.25$j8.366@news.uswest.net...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
Why do you continue to post to alt.atheism, even after you stated you
have killfiled a good number of it's members?
I figured they still read books and like free ones.
Jason
Not of your type of books.
But then you already knew that.
Not so. Just look at how much they like to talk about my book, for
instance. Atheists read all kinds of books. Don't fool yourself.
BTW, fixed your cut 'n paste error yet?
Bet not. Bet you will even say it's not an error, and still be unable
to admit you made a human mistake.
Darn, go figure.
I'm not sure how or why, but 1800 was missing from the list when I
downloaded it. However, I was able to find it, now.
#1800
Name: Sidney Schneider
Nick: inspector71
DOB: 1956
Country: Canada
Philosophic Conviction: Atheist
This has been added to the list.
I'd admit some error, as you have been chasing me around and trying to make
me do. However, I know how to copy and paste and copied and pasted every
name on the list. I have no idea why 1800 wasn't there and is now.
Nonetheless, thank you for guaranteeing Sidney's insertion. We will pray
for him.
Regards,
Jason
-
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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| User: "Edmond Dantes" |
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| Title: Re: Read Free Books |
11 Jan 2006 10:13:13 PM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
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#1800
Name: Sidney Schneider
Nick: inspector71
DOB: 1956
Country: Canada
Philosophic Conviction: Atheist
This has been added to the list.
I'd admit some error, as you have been chasing me around and trying to
make
me do. However, I know how to copy and paste and copied and pasted every
name on the list. I have no idea why 1800 wasn't there and is now.
Nonetheless, thank you for guaranteeing Sidney's insertion. We will pray
for him.
Regards,
Jason
"Praying for" the Atheist? Is that the new Christian vogue now? Do you pray
for all those who don't believe as you do?
A "pray for" is really a *prey on*.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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03 Mar 2005 12:52:30 PM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" < > wrote in message
news:S4IVd.25$j8.366@news.uswest.net...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
Why do you continue to post to alt.atheism, even after you stated you
have killfiled a good number of it's members?
I figured they still read books and like free ones.
Jason
Not of your type of books.
But then you already knew that.
Not so. Just look at how much they like to talk about my book, for
instance. Atheists read all kinds of books. Don't fool yourself.
BTW, fixed your cut 'n paste error yet?
Bet not. Bet you will even say it's not an error, and still be unable
to admit you made a human mistake.
Darn, go figure.
I'm not sure how or why, but 1800 was missing from the list when I
downloaded it. However, I was able to find it, now.
#1800
Name: Sidney Schneider
Nick: inspector71
DOB: 1956
Country: Canada
Philosophic Conviction: Atheist
This has been added to the list.
I'd admit some error, as you have been chasing me around and trying to make
me do. However, I know how to copy and paste and copied and pasted every
name on the list. I have no idea why 1800 wasn't there and is now.
Nonetheless, thank you for guaranteeing Sidney's insertion. We will pray
for him.
You will waste your time IOW's.
But at least you were finally able to admit you made a mistake. There's
hope for you after all.
In about 90 years.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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| User: "David D." |
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| Title: Re: Read Free Books |
03 Mar 2005 01:05:50 PM |
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
<snip>
I'd admit some error, as you have been chasing me around and trying
to make
me do. However, I know how to copy and paste and copied and pasted
every
name on the list. I have no idea why 1800 wasn't there and is now.
Nonetheless, thank you for guaranteeing Sidney's insertion. We
will pray
for him.
<snip>
But at least you were finally able to admit you made a mistake.
There's
hope for you after all.
You call that admitting his mistake? It sounds as if he is saying "it
was not there when I cut and paste but I see it is there now".
Clearly Jason did not copy and paste every name on the list. 1800 was
the last name on the list and he failed to drag the cursor down far
enough. A very easy mistake to make. Why can't he admit that is what
happened??
Jason, does your God prevent you from making scholarly mistakes? Do
you realise how stupid you look trying to defend your obvious errors?
This is exactly how David S. trapped you in your lies re: your lawsuit
against Durango Bill. White lies have to be defended with further lies
and before you know it your web of lies is so full of holes the whole
thing comes craching down on your head.
You paint yourself into corners again and again and again. Normal
people learn from their mistakes. You never seem to learn. What does
this say about you Jason?
David D. aa#2219
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: Read Free Books |
03 Mar 2005 02:12:16 PM |
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David D. wrote:
Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
<snip>
I'd admit some error, as you have been chasing me around and trying
to make
me do. However, I know how to copy and paste and copied and pasted
every
name on the list. I have no idea why 1800 wasn't there and is now.
Nonetheless, thank you for guaranteeing Sidney's insertion. We
will pray
for him.
<snip>
But at least you were finally able to admit you made a mistake.
There's
hope for you after all.
You call that admitting his mistake? It sounds as if he is saying "it
was not there when I cut and paste but I see it is there now".
Clearly Jason did not copy and paste every name on the list. 1800 was
the last name on the list and he failed to drag the cursor down far
enough. A very easy mistake to make. Why can't he admit that is what
happened??
Jason, does your God prevent you from making scholarly mistakes? Do
you realise how stupid you look trying to defend your obvious errors?
This is exactly how David S. trapped you in your lies re: your lawsuit
against Durango Bill. White lies have to be defended with further lies
and before you know it your web of lies is so full of holes the whole
thing comes craching down on your head.
You paint yourself into corners again and again and again. Normal
people learn from their mistakes. You never seem to learn. What does
this say about you Jason?
David D. aa#2219
Hey, I was giving him, the benefit of the doubt.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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| User: "Jason Gastrich" |
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| Title: Re: Read Free Books |
03 Mar 2005 04:21:47 PM |
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" < > wrote in message
news:0dKVd.46$j8.609@news.uswest.net...
David D. wrote:
Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
<snip>
I'd admit some error, as you have been chasing me around and trying
to make
me do. However, I know how to copy and paste and copied and pasted
every
name on the list. I have no idea why 1800 wasn't there and is now.
Nonetheless, thank you for guaranteeing Sidney's insertion. We
will pray
for him.
<snip>
But at least you were finally able to admit you made a mistake.
There's
hope for you after all.
You call that admitting his mistake? It sounds as if he is saying "it
was not there when I cut and paste but I see it is there now".
Clearly Jason did not copy and paste every name on the list. 1800 was
the last name on the list and he failed to drag the cursor down far
enough. A very easy mistake to make. Why can't he admit that is what
happened??
Because I don't know what happened, exactly.
Jason, does your God prevent you from making scholarly mistakes? Do
you realise how stupid you look trying to defend your obvious errors?
This is exactly how David S. trapped you in your lies re: your lawsuit
against Durango Bill. White lies have to be defended with further lies
and before you know it your web of lies is so full of holes the whole
thing comes craching down on your head.
This is nonsense. I didn't lie about anything.
You paint yourself into corners again and again and again. Normal
people learn from their mistakes. You never seem to learn. What does
this say about you Jason?
David D. aa#2219
You calling me abnormal is ok with me.
Regards,
Jason
Hey, I was giving him, the benefit of the doubt.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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03 Mar 2005 09:38:00 PM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message
news:0dKVd.46$j8.609@news.uswest.net...
David D. wrote:
Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
<snip>
I'd admit some error, as you have been chasing me around and
trying
to make
me do. However, I know how to copy and paste and copied and
pasted
every
name on the list. I have no idea why 1800 wasn't there and is
now.
Nonetheless, thank you for guaranteeing Sidney's insertion. We
will pray
for him.
<snip>
But at least you were finally able to admit you made a mistake.
There's
hope for you after all.
You call that admitting his mistake? It sounds as if he is
saying "it
was not there when I cut and paste but I see it is there now".
Clearly Jason did not copy and paste every name on the list.
1800 was
the last name on the list and he failed to drag the cursor down
far
enough. A very easy mistake to make. Why can't he admit that is
what
happened??
Because I don't know what happened, exactly.
Jason, does your God prevent you from making scholarly mistakes?
Do
you realise how stupid you look trying to defend your obvious
errors?
This is exactly how David S. trapped you in your lies re: your
lawsuit
against Durango Bill. White lies have to be defended with
further lies
and before you know it your web of lies is so full of holes the
whole
thing comes craching down on your head.
This is nonsense. I didn't lie about anything.
I have the court documents, Jason.
You lied about pretty much EVERYTHING.
You paint yourself into corners again and again and again.
Normal
people learn from their mistakes. You never seem to learn. What
does
this say about you Jason?
David D. aa#2219
You calling me abnormal is ok with me.
Charles Manson doesn't mind, either.
Ted Bundy ACKNOWLEDGED that HE was "abnormal."
But what was ACTUALLY said that you tried to twist?
"Normal people learn from their mistakes."
But YOU want to be ABnormal? You're PROUD of that?
You don't learn from your mistakes?
Is that REALLY what you want us to believe?
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| User: "David D." |
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03 Mar 2005 02:53:11 PM |
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
David D. wrote:
Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
<snip>
I'd admit some error, as you have been chasing me around and
trying
to make
me do. However, I know how to copy and paste and copied and
pasted
every
name on the list. I have no idea why 1800 wasn't there and is
now.
Nonetheless, thank you for guaranteeing Sidney's insertion. We
will pray
for him.
<snip>
But at least you were finally able to admit you made a mistake.
There's
hope for you after all.
You call that admitting his mistake? It sounds as if he is saying
"it
was not there when I cut and paste but I see it is there now".
Clearly Jason did not copy and paste every name on the list. 1800
was
the last name on the list and he failed to drag the cursor down far
enough. A very easy mistake to make. Why can't he admit that is
what
happened??
Jason, does your God prevent you from making scholarly mistakes?
Do
you realise how stupid you look trying to defend your obvious
errors?
This is exactly how David S. trapped you in your lies re: your
lawsuit
against Durango Bill. White lies have to be defended with further
lies
and before you know it your web of lies is so full of holes the
whole
thing comes craching down on your head.
You paint yourself into corners again and again and again. Normal
people learn from their mistakes. You never seem to learn. What
does
this say about you Jason?
Hey, I was giving him, the benefit of the doubt.
:-) Carry on.
I suppose I have stopped doing that with regard to
Jason. He is the regular boy that cries wolf.
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| User: "Grinder" |
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03 Mar 2005 06:58:58 PM |
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
Hey, I was giving him, the benefit of the doubt.
Just like an unbeliever to think there's some *benefit* in doubt.
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03 Mar 2005 07:17:29 PM |
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"Grinder" <grinder2112@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Just like an unbeliever to think there's some *benefit* in doubt.
Clever. :)
--
sharon, aa #2153
"(of creationism) ... Only apocryphal tales told by goat herders around the
campfire after it became too dark to continue to molest their charges." --
TvG (Rec.Equestrian, 2003)
"Easy -- he's the Right Reverend Admiral Jason Gastrich, BSc, MSc, DVM, ThD,
PhD, MD, JD, Esq, US Navy (Ret). If the bible happened to put things in the
wrong order, well, our boy the Doctor will just fix it right up there!" --
Rightshu (IIDB, 2004)
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| User: "David" |
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04 Mar 2005 08:56:48 PM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message
news:S4IVd.25$j8.366@news.uswest.net...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
Why do you continue to post to alt.atheism, even after you stated
you
have killfiled a good number of it's members?
I figured they still read books and like free ones.
Jason
Not of your type of books.
But then you already knew that.
Not so. Just look at how much they like to talk about my book, for
instance.
The talk of your book is about how incompetent it is, Jason.
Don't fool yourself.
Atheists read all kinds of books.
What about YOU, Jason?
When was the last time you read, oh, a SCIENCE book?
I mean a REAL science book, Jason - not one of those idiotic things the
ICR puts out.
When was the last time you actually READ a book by an atheist?
I know that you couldn't be bothered to read Dan Barker's book before
you presumed to interview him, in part, BECAUSE of that book.
That's something any competent interviewer would have done, by the way.
Have you read it since?
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: Read Free Books |
03 Mar 2005 12:17:28 PM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message
news:S4IVd.25$j8.366@news.uswest.net...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
Why do you continue to post to alt.atheism, even after you stated
you
have killfiled a good number of it's members?
I figured they still read books and like free ones.
Jason
Not of your type of books.
But then you already knew that.
Not so. Just look at how much they like to talk about my book, for
instance. Atheists read all kinds of books. Don't fool yourself.
What makes me curious, Jason, is why you posted this ad twice and did
so with a reference to your website, when one can get to the "books"
quite readily by using the URL without that reference.
Some kind of scam, I suppose.
BTW, fixed your cut 'n paste error yet?
Bet not. Bet you will even say it's not an error, and still be
unable
to admit you made a human mistake.
Darn, go figure.
I'm not sure how or why, but 1800 was missing from the list when I
downloaded it. However, I was able to find it, now.
#1800
Name: Sidney Schneider
Nick: inspector71
DOB: 1956
Country: Canada
Philosophic Conviction: Atheist
This has been added to the list.
I'd admit some error, as you have been chasing me around and trying
to make
me do.
This will be the first I've seen you admit, Jason, but maybe part of
the problem was that you DO have to be "chased around" to get you to
admit even the simplest errors.
But knowing how you fundamentalists tend to think, it's not hard to
imagine why that is.
However, I know how to copy and paste and copied and pasted every
name on the list. I have no idea why 1800 wasn't there and is now.
Nonetheless, thank you for guaranteeing Sidney's insertion. We will
pray
for him.
Maybe God didn't want you to pray for him, Jason.
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| User: "wcb" |
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03 Mar 2005 10:39:36 PM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
Why do you continue to post to alt.atheism, even after you stated you
have killfiled a good number of it's members?
I figured they still read books and like free ones.
Jason
Hey Dood! You live!
How about my prayer challenge to you?
You have 4 days to go.
--
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Jason Gastrich" |
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| Title: Re: Read Free Books |
03 Mar 2005 04:27:15 PM |
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"wcb" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:42278247$0$88028$16895aa@news.airnews.net...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
Why do you continue to post to alt.atheism, even after you stated you
have killfiled a good number of it's members?
I figured they still read books and like free ones.
Jason
Hey Dood! You live!
How about my prayer challenge to you?
You have 4 days to go.
Cheerful Charlie
Charlie,
What is your prayer challenge? I must have missed your post about it.
Please include free.christians in your response.
God bless,
Jason
--
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Jesus Christ Saves Ministries
http://www.jcsm.org
Over 90,000 web pages!
John 8:36 reads, "Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free
indeed."
Galatians 5:1 reads, "Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ
has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage."
ICQ#: 20731140 . AIM: MrJasonGastrich . YIM: Jesus_Saved_Jason
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: Read Free Books |
04 Mar 2005 02:54:35 AM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
"wcb" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:42278247$0$88028$16895aa@news.airnews.net...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
Why do you continue to post to alt.atheism, even after you stated you
have killfiled a good number of it's members?
I figured they still read books and like free ones.
Jason
Hey Dood! You live!
How about my prayer challenge to you?
You have 4 days to go.
Cheerful Charlie
Charlie,
What is your prayer challenge? I must have missed your post about it.
Please include free.christians in your response.
You missed it? No! I made it at least half dozen times
to you.
Simple, I m no, 109 on the Atheist list.
Simply put, put me at the head of the prayer list.
And not a simple little prayer on the way from the
refrigerator back to the couch to watch TV.
I want full blown prayer, an hour a day from
you and your church.
********************************************
Mark 11:23-4
For verily I say this unto you, That
whosoever shall say unto this mountain,
Be thou removed, and be thou cast
into the sea; and shall not doubt
in his heart, but shall believe that
those things which he saith shall
come to pass; he shall have whatsoever
he saith.
Therefore I say unto you, What things
soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe
ye recieve them and ye shall have them.
Matthew 18:19-20
Again I say unto you, that if two
of you shall agree on earth as
touching anything that they shall
ask, it shall be done for them of
my father which is in heaven.
For where two or three are gathered
in my name, there I am in the midst
of them.
Matthew 21:22
And all things,whatsoever ye shall ask
in prayer, believeing, ye shall recieve.
John 14:12-14
12: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that
believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall
he do;because I go unto my Father.
13: And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name,
that will I do, that the Father may be
glorified in the Son.
14: If ye shall ask any thing in my name,
I will do it.
***********************************************
Here we see, Jesus his very own self promises all big,
and great miracle working abilities. Bigger miracles
than he worked in fact.
So converting me by prayer should be easy if you
you actully put forth a good effort with these
verses in mind. I am particularly fond of John 14.
Tell me when you are ready an we wil lstart the count
to find out. Is the bible true? if so,
these verses guarantee prayer will convert me. If at
the end of 30 days it has not as promised, we can agree
like adults that the bible is not true, and these promises
are not true an Jesus did not speak truth.
Over ten years I have had numerous peole play this "I
will pray for you" game. Many Atheists here get offended
at that, but not me! I love it when somebody wants
to put this to the test.
But alas. Most so challenged an I have done this for ten
years now, run away. They don't have faith. They don't
trust in Jesus and the bible and these written promises.
And so they don't even try and naturally, I am not converted
by the miracle working abilities of prayer as guaranteeed to
us all by Jesus Christ.
And if its not true, we can both laugh at it all and stop
wasting time with the Bible.
So, you up to it or not? You have a lot of true believers
here in AA to call on for a big push. Randy Story, Lorr,
Georgeann, Duke, all these big true believers. Call on them
to show me just how wrong I am.
I am sure they will agree to help.
Whaddya say?
--
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Jason Gastrich" |
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| Title: Re: Read Free Books |
03 Mar 2005 07:57:50 PM |
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wcb wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
"wcb" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:42278247$0$88028$16895aa@news.airnews.net...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
Why do you continue to post to alt.atheism, even after you stated
you have killfiled a good number of it's members?
I figured they still read books and like free ones.
Jason
Hey Dood! You live!
How about my prayer challenge to you?
You have 4 days to go.
Cheerful Charlie
Charlie,
What is your prayer challenge? I must have missed your post about
it.
Please include free.christians in your response.
You missed it? No! I made it at least half dozen times
to you.
Simple, I m no, 109 on the Atheist list.
Simply put, put me at the head of the prayer list.
And not a simple little prayer on the way from the
refrigerator back to the couch to watch TV.
I want full blown prayer, an hour a day from
you and your church.
********************************************
Mark 11:23-4
For verily I say this unto you, That
whosoever shall say unto this mountain,
Be thou removed, and be thou cast
into the sea; and shall not doubt
in his heart, but shall believe that
those things which he saith shall
come to pass; he shall have whatsoever
he saith.
Therefore I say unto you, What things
soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe
ye recieve them and ye shall have them.
Matthew 18:19-20
Again I say unto you, that if two
of you shall agree on earth as
touching anything that they shall
ask, it shall be done for them of
my father which is in heaven.
For where two or three are gathered
in my name, there I am in the midst
of them.
Matthew 21:22
And all things,whatsoever ye shall ask
in prayer, believeing, ye shall recieve.
John 14:12-14
12: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that
believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall
he do;because I go unto my Father.
13: And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name,
that will I do, that the Father may be
glorified in the Son.
14: If ye shall ask any thing in my name,
I will do it.
***********************************************
Here we see, Jesus his very own self promises all big,
and great miracle working abilities. Bigger miracles
than he worked in fact.
So converting me by prayer should be easy if you
you actully put forth a good effort with these
verses in mind. I am particularly fond of John 14.
Tell me when you are ready an we wil lstart the count
to find out. Is the bible true? if so,
these verses guarantee prayer will convert me. If at
the end of 30 days it has not as promised, we can agree
like adults that the bible is not true, and these promises
are not true an Jesus did not speak truth.
Over ten years I have had numerous peole play this "I
will pray for you" game. Many Atheists here get offended
at that, but not me! I love it when somebody wants
to put this to the test.
But alas. Most so challenged an I have done this for ten
years now, run away. They don't have faith. They don't
trust in Jesus and the bible and these written promises.
And so they don't even try and naturally, I am not converted
by the miracle working abilities of prayer as guaranteeed to
us all by Jesus Christ.
And if its not true, we can both laugh at it all and stop
wasting time with the Bible.
So, you up to it or not? You have a lot of true believers
here in AA to call on for a big push. Randy Story, Lorr,
Georgeann, Duke, all these big true believers. Call on them
to show me just how wrong I am.
I am sure they will agree to help.
Whaddya say?
The "testing period" of 30 days seems awfully arbitrary. Why only 30 days?
It could take 5 minutes or it could take 5 years.
Regards,
Jason
--
--------
Jesus Christ Saves Ministries
http://www.jcsm.org
Over 90,000 web pages!
John 8:36 reads, "Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be
free indeed."
Galatians 5:1 reads, "Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which
Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of
bondage."
ICQ#: 20731140 . AIM: MrJasonGastrich . YIM: Jesus_Saved_Jason
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: Read Free Books |
03 Mar 2005 09:34:56 PM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
wcb wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
"wcb" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:42278247$0$88028$16895aa@news.airnews.net...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
See Vincent Cheung's Free Books
http://www.rmiweb.org/jcsm.htm
Why do you continue to post to alt.atheism, even after you
stated
you have killfiled a good number of it's members?
I figured they still read books and like free ones.
Jason
Hey Dood! You live!
How about my prayer challenge to you?
You have 4 days to go.
Cheerful Charlie
Charlie,
What is your prayer challenge? I must have missed your post about
it.
Please include free.christians in your response.
You missed it? No! I made it at least half dozen times
to you.
Simple, I m no, 109 on the Atheist list.
Simply put, put me at the head of the prayer list.
And not a simple little prayer on the way from the
refrigerator back to the couch to watch TV.
I want full blown prayer, an hour a day from
you and your church.
********************************************
Mark 11:23-4
For verily I say this unto you, That
whosoever shall say unto this mountain,
Be thou removed, and be thou cast
into the sea; and shall not doubt
in his heart, but shall believe that
those things which he saith shall
come to pass; he shall have whatsoever
he saith.
Therefore I say unto you, What things
soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe
ye recieve them and ye shall have them.
Matthew 18:19-20
Again I say unto you, that if two
of you shall agree on earth as
touching anything that they shall
ask, it shall be done for them of
my father which is in heaven.
For where two or three are gathered
in my name, there I am in the midst
of them.
Matthew 21:22
And all things,whatsoever ye shall ask
in prayer, believeing, ye shall recieve.
John 14:12-14
12: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that
believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall
he do;because I go unto my Father.
13: And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name,
that will I do, that the Father may be
glorified in the Son.
14: If ye shall ask any thing in my name,
I will do it.
***********************************************
Here we see, Jesus his very own self promises all big,
and great miracle working abilities. Bigger miracles
than he worked in fact.
So converting me by prayer should be easy if you
you actully put forth a good effort with these
verses in mind. I am particularly fond of John 14.
Tell me when you are ready an we wil lstart the count
to find out. Is the bible true? if so,
these verses guarantee prayer will convert me. If at
the end of 30 days it has not as promised, we can agree
like adults that the bible is not true, and these promises
are not true an Jesus did not speak truth.
Over ten years I have had numerous peole play this "I
will pray for you" game. Many Atheists here get offended
at that, but not me! I love it when somebody wants
to put this to the test.
But alas. Most so challenged an I have done this for ten
years now, run away. They don't have faith. They don't
trust in Jesus and the bible and these written promises.
And so they don't even try and naturally, I am not converted
by the miracle working abilities of prayer as guaranteeed to
us all by Jesus Christ.
And if its not true, we can both laugh at it all and stop
wasting time with the Bible.
So, you up to it or not? You have a lot of true believers
here in AA to call on for a big push. Randy Story, Lorr,
Georgeann, Duke, all these big true believers. Call on them
to show me just how wrong I am.
I am sure they will agree to help.
Whaddya say?
The "testing period" of 30 days seems awfully arbitrary. Why only 30
days?
It could take 5 minutes or it could take 5 years.
Well, I called it when I first started my polls.
I knew Jason would make some kind of "God moves in his own ways"
response.
But I think we all understood that. It could happen in 5 minutes or 5
years.
Or it could never happen.
Right?
So far, the odds aren't good.
How many of these self-serving "prayers" have you posted, Jason?
So far, there has been no effect - zero.
In fact, you've driven people the other way, if I'm reading some of
these threads correctly.
One might easily conclude that you're doing Satan's work.
How would you prove them wrong?
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