"skyeyes" <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote in message

There is no atheist "movement." There's just a big bunch of us who
are damn sick and tired of being treated as second-class citizens
because we don't believe in fairy tales, and *we're not gonna take it
anymore*. In order to have a "movement," you've got to organize, and
trust me on this, atheists don't organize well. See the phrase "Cat-
Herding" in my sig? It's there for a reason. We don't have anything
in common apart from not believing in any gods. We have no leader(s)
and no formal doctrine - although guys like Dawkins and Hitchens and
Harris have pretty high profiles and write pretty interesting books
that are being widely read. Still, that ain't a movement, my friend.
It's only a trend, and that trend could change overnight.

That's our 'Achilles heel', Skyeyes. And when you consider what's been done
to me out here -- with complete and absolute impunity, mind you -- and with
the government turning its back on us (what's been done to me might as well
be considered done to each and every atheist in my view), well, you can
plainly see why we're in dire need of some type of organization that can
effectively deal with this type of blatant hatred of the atheist. The
appeals made by atheists, other freethinkers of various leanings, and the
Christians of noble conscience have fallen on deaf ears it seems. We're not
a powerful enough aggregation of like-minded individuals to even register as
a 'blip' on the politician's radar screen.

Doesn't the fact that no Democrat has even bothered to call out here and
personally check on my condition speak volumes. Now if I had changed my name
to Terri Shiavo a year or two ago ...

We need to do something, Brenda. And the religious right has, no doubt, has
taken notes, seeing how state government fails to protect a certain 'stripe'
of constituent, and gleefully goes on registering just how feeble and weak
an aggregation we are.

As for Castro being an atheist: Who cares. He hasn't killed Cubans for the
sole reason that they believed in a 'God' in the same manner Christian
leaders have killed countless individuals for their lack of belief, or
crazier still, the belief in the same 'God' alright, but not the 'proper'
belief in make-believe 'Him', has he?

(Must drive you nuts with all those books and with so little time to
'absorb' them, mustn't it?)

An aside: The sole surviving kitten, 'Grey', is already now half the size of
a mountain lion . . . well, 'sorta'.

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:10:22 -0700, skyeyes <skyeyes@dakotacom.net>
wrote:

On Sep 28, 11:56 am, The Professor <tlsnyde...@aol.com> wrote:

Liberals like Jimmy Carter and Michael Moore, etc., who defend this
man and his evil regime and buddy up to them should be attacked for
what they truly are -- fascists with a smiling face!

But...but...but...Castro is a *communist*. If Carter and Moore are
fascists, why would they support a commie? Communism is pretty much
the polar opposite fascism.

Since both Communism and fascism are evil, they're the same thing ...
to people who have no concept of what "think" means. Remember, these
are the people who invented the phrase "godless atheism" without
gagging. May I pour you a wet water?
--

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:10:22 -0700, skyeyes <skyeyes@dakotacom.net>
wrote:

On Sep 28, 11:56 am, The Professor <tlsnyde...@aol.com> wrote:

Liberals like Jimmy Carter and Michael Moore, etc., who defend this
man and his evil regime and buddy up to them should be attacked for
what they truly are -- fascists with a smiling face!

But...but...but...Castro is a *communist*. If Carter and Moore are
fascists, why would they support a commie? Communism is pretty much
the polar opposite fascism.

Since both Communism and fascism are evil, they're the same thing ...
to people who have no concept of what "think" means. Remember, these
are the people who invented the phrase "godless atheism" without
gagging. May I pour you a wet water?

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:10:22 -0700, skyeyes <skye...@dakotacom.net>
wrote:

On Sep 28, 11:56 am, The Professor <tlsnyde...@aol.com> wrote:

Liberals like Jimmy Carter and Michael Moore, etc., who defend this
man and his evil regime and buddy up to them should be attacked for
what they truly are -- fascists with a smiling face!

But...but...but...Castro is a *communist*. If Carter and Moore are
fascists, why would they support a commie? Communism is pretty much
the polar opposite fascism.

Since both Communism and fascism are evil, they're the same thing ...
to people who have no concept of what "think" means. Remember, these
are the people who invented the phrase "godless atheism" without
gagging. May I pour you a wet water?

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:34:17 -0700, Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Sep 29, 2:56 am, The Professor <tlsnyde...@aol.com> wrote:

http://www.amazon.com/Against-All-Hope-Memoir-Castros/dp/1893554198?t...

Read this book, "Against All Hope," and learn the truth about Fidel
Castro's Communist Gulag.

Liberals likeJimmyCarterand Michael Moore, etc., who defend this
man and his evil regime and buddy up to them should be attacked for
what they truly are -- fascists with a smiling face!

Of course, Castro is supposed to be an atheist. It's bizarre to me why
more atheists don't speak out more often against atheist dictators
like him, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Chavez, and their followers. If this
hypocrisy is not rooted out, the atheist movement loses credibility.

It is interesting to see that "The Professor"
is ignorant of the fact that
Jimmy Carter was too far ahead of his time.

:

He funded and trained Osama bin Laden, and covered it up to Congress.

He is so delusional that he thinks that there is an invisible
sky-pixie who gives him stuff when he talks at it.

He funded and trained Osama bin Laden, and covered it up to Congress.
He is so delusional that he thinks that there is an invisible
sky-pixie who gives him stuff when he talks at it.

======================================================
The Afghan Mujahadeens are the moral
equivalent of the Founding Fathers of America."
-Ronald Reagan

Well, the fact that atheist, Communist dictators (who preach a form of
fascism) also kill and imprison some atheists for political and
philosophical reasons means that it's even a bigger shame that more
atheists don't criticize people like Jimmy Carter who make excuses for
Fidel Castro and anti-Semitic Muslims, who also kill and imprison
atheists, by the way, not just religious Jews and Christians (by the
way, it was Arab Muslims who first invaded Jewish and Christian
controlled lands and cities, so it is they who are the real invaders
and occupiers, not the Jews in Israel or the United States and
Europe). More atheists should also speak out against Communist,
secular and socialist, as well as atheist, persecution of religious
Jews and Christians. Of course, the same is true vice versa when an
atheist is unjustly persecuted, though, like some of the complaints
from minorities, some of the complaints from atheists about
persecution, especially in the USA, sound like whining and
disingenuous complaining if not bigotry.

Furthermore, until the advent of Marxism, the number of hospitals
named after Christians far exceeds the number of hospitals named after
atheists. Also, in the past, Christian leaders led the fight to end
the slave trade, ended the pagan practice of leaving disabled babies
and female babies out in the cold to die, stopped the practice in
India of murdering widows, led the Civil Rights Movement in the United
States, support private and church-related ministries to the poor like
Mother Teresa's (inspired by Jesus and traditional Christian faith, by
the way), and support the protection of the lives and well-being of
children and the poor. Also, as far as attacks on the Christian right
and Christian fundamentalists goes, it is the religious left and other
heretics, supported by atheists like Hugh Hefner and neo-fascist
secular socialists like Michael Moore, who support high taxes,
complicated laws, big government, incompetent public schools and the
"teachers" and "educators" who run them, weak laws and weak
enforcement against crime and illegal immigration, mild jail sentences
against convicted pedophiles, child pornography, pornography in the
mainstream media, weak attitudes toward sexual promiscuity and the
teaching of sex to children as young as kindergarten age or second
grade age (as the leading Democrat candidates just did), non-
traditional and non-biblical definitions of marriage and family,
firearm confiscation, a weak military, laws against private property
and against regular forms of business and industry and commerce,
draconian laws against "second-hand smoke," nationalized healthcare by
faceless bureaucrats at the state and federal level, etc. The
Christian right and Christian fundamentalists generally oppose these
misguided policies. They just want to protect children and their
innocence, set teenagers and young adults on the right path to a
productive life which can result in long and healthy life (as
traditional marriage, hard work, charity, and traditional family
values have been proven to do), prevent and stop crime, stop the
negative population growth of families with both a husband and a wife
(which has become a real problem in countries like Russia), support
the right to life and private property and assembly and free political
and religious and philosophical speech, support the traditional view
of the scientific method which allows for an open mind instead of a
closed one like the evolutionists and rich self-interested
environmentalist "scientists" who rely on government grants support,
and stop the continued crassness and rudeness and degradation of the
culture.

It is not I who is mis-informed.

On Sep 28, 5:02 pm, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktaylo...@gmail.com> wrote:

The Professor wrote:

http://www.amazon.com/Against-All-Hope-Memoir-Castros/dp/1893554198?t...
Read this book, "Against All Hope," and learn the truth about Fidel
Castro's Communist Gulag.
Liberals like Jimmy Carter and Michael Moore, etc., who defend this
man and his evil regime and buddy up to them should be attacked for
what they truly are -- fascists with a smiling face!
Of course, Castro is supposed to be an atheist. It's bizarre to me why
more atheists don't speak out more often against atheist dictators
like him, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Chavez, and their followers. If this
hypocrisy is not rooted out, the atheist movement loses credibility.
ts
www.movieguide.org
www.gopwing.com
www.answers.org
www.frc.org

Hmmmm. Largest religious group in Cuba, Catholics.

Castro, Catholic, took out anyone that opposed him, including atheists

Stalin, Russian Orthodox, took out any one that opposed him, including
atheists

Mao, Buddhist, took out anyone that opposed him, including atheists

Pol Pot, Buddhist, took out anyone that opposed him, including atheists

Chavez, Catholic, took out anyone that opposed him, including atheists

I'd suggest Professor that you learn the truth about what atheism is and
what political ambition is.

--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.secularity.com/ktayloraz

A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/

Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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