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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Don"
Date: 03 Sep 2003 01:34:26 PM
Object: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE !
Everyone has a slip-of-the-toung occasionally. But is a Christian
supposed to curse as a way of life? Is a self-professed
Catholic/Christian, like Duke, supposed to continually use vulgarities
as a normal form of communication?
Why become a Catholic? I could not be a good Catholic because I just
don't talk as nasty as Duke.
"That which proceeds out of the man, that is what defiles the man."
Mark7:20
==========
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 23:18:26 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote:

I snip the *****. And I do a very good job of it.

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 15:31:37 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote:

Most of the garbage you junior atheists throw out is *****.

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 12:11:43 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote:

More doppler related *****.

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:03:26 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote:

It tells *me* what a ***** artist you are.

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 17:57:48 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote:

It's just *****.

...you'll fall flat on your ***** like you do in explaining your pure *****.

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:09:28 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote:

I believe yuo just got suckered by a ***** artist.

Just think, leong, you could be letting dougidiot ***** you into
your final free decision right now.

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:17:20 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote:

But your future time knowledge analogy is pure *****, especially
with almighty God involved.

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 17:54:53 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote:

It's *****, that's why.

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 12:13:09 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote:

It's called a ***** term for your ***** idea.

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 12:01:02 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote:

Just remember, though, that you could be f**ked and not know it, but
you do it to yourself...

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 15:26:39 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote:

Oh, you'll begin to figure it out just as soon as you do that thing
that you used to f**k youself.

Remember, on a stupid person like yourself would f**k yourself.

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 17:53:21 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote:

It's a good thing then that our almighty God said: Let them make free
decisions basis the quality of their souls.

God did NOT say that. He said:
"That which proceeds out of the man, that is what defiles the man."
Mark7:20
"It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what
proceeds out of the MOUTH, this defiles the man."
Matt15:11
"You brood of vipers...the mouth speaks out of that which fills the
heart.
Every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting
for it in the day of judgment. WHY? For by your words you will be
justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
Matt.12:34-37
D*
"The church should equip believers (to do the work of the ministry,
which, in itself, encompases many things)."
- - Anonymous
"There is not much difference today between the overall
selfishness of the charismatic movement and the overall
selfishness of any room-full of people."
- - Anonymous
.

User: "ArWeGod"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 09 Sep 2003 05:47:07 AM
"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Everyone has a slip-of-the-toung occasionally.

What's a toung?
--
ArWeGod
.
User: "Don"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 09 Sep 2003 03:28:51 PM
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 10:47:07 GMT, "ArWeGod" <ArWeGod@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dbaclv4446no9i25opm72bap9gj385i4j3@4ax.com...

Everyone has a slip-of-the-toung occasionally.


What's a toung?

That is what you use when you lift your stake off the gril.
D*
<gr>
Qualem blennum!
.
User: "iconoclast"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 09 Sep 2003 09:50:42 PM
"Don" <calldonREMOVEIT@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 10:47:07 GMT, "ArWeGod" <ArWeGod@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dbaclv4446no9i25opm72bap9gj385i4j3@4ax.com...

Everyone has a slip-of-the-toung occasionally.


What's a toung?


That is what you use when you lift your stake off the gril.

D*

When you lift your what off the girl?



<gr>




Qualem blennum!

.
User: "Don"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 10 Sep 2003 01:17:28 AM
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:50:42 -0700, "iconoclast" <icono@home.net>
wrote:


"Don" <calldonREMOVEIT@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 10:47:07 GMT, "ArWeGod" <ArWeGod@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dbaclv4446no9i25opm72bap9gj385i4j3@4ax.com...

Everyone has a slip-of-the-toung occasionally.


What's a toung?


That is what you use when you lift your stake off the gril.

D*


When you lift your what off the girl?

Don't tell my Mom I'm a brain surgeon...she thinks I'm a piano player
in a ***** house.
D*
Qualem blennum!
.
User: "ArWeGod"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 11 Sep 2003 05:13:53 AM
"Don" <calldonREMOVEIT@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:50:42 -0700, "iconoclast" <icono@home.net>
wrote:


"Don" <calldonREMOVEIT@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 10:47:07 GMT, "ArWeGod" <ArWeGod@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dbaclv4446no9i25opm72bap9gj385i4j3@4ax.com...

Everyone has a slip-of-the-toung occasionally.


What's a toung?


That is what you use when you lift your stake off the gril.

D*


When you lift your what off the girl?


Don't tell my Mom I'm a brain surgeon...she thinks I'm a piano player
in a ***** house.

D*




Qualem blennum!

I think I bought a toung once... It had these 7 attachments but I could
never get them to attach correctly...
.... wait for it...
... to my *****!!!
--
ArWeGod
p.s. My ex-wives took them all in some really funny way...
.





User: "Christopher Robin"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 03 Sep 2003 04:20:24 PM
"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dbaclv4446no9i25opm72bap9gj385i4j3@4ax.com...

Everyone has a slip-of-the-toung occasionally. But is a Christian
supposed to curse as a way of life? Is a self-professed
Catholic/Christian, like Duke, supposed to continually use vulgarities
as a normal form of communication?

Why become a Catholic? I could not be a good Catholic because I just
don't talk as nasty as Duke.

Then don't be a Baptist - look at the language that comes from John.
Don't be a Oneness Pentecostal - look at Steve Winter.
Don't be a ...
You see... people aren't perfect.
.
User: "Charles P"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 06 Sep 2003 07:59:51 PM
"Christopher Robin" <anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote in message

"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dbaclv4446no9i25opm72bap9gj385i4j3@4ax.com...

Everyone has a slip-of-the-toung occasionally. But is a Christian
supposed to curse as a way of life? Is a self-professed
Catholic/Christian, like Duke, supposed to continually use vulgarities
as a normal form of communication?

Why become a Catholic? I could not be a good Catholic because I just
don't talk as nasty as Duke.

Then don't be a Baptist - look at the language that comes from John.

Don't be a Oneness Pentecostal - look at Steve Winter.

Don't be a ...

You see... people aren't perfect.

A solution is obvious. Don't be a Christian, then you'll
avoid all these pitfall, then you won't have to appear as
an idiot anywhere under any circumstances.
.
User: "duke32"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 07 Sep 2003 07:50:07 AM
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 00:59:51 GMT, "Charles P" <chuck@spammerssuck.com>
wrote:

A solution is obvious. Don't be a Christian, then you'll
avoid all these pitfall, then you won't have to appear as
an idiot anywhere under any circumstances.

Yet you will still have to stand before almighty God when you take
your final breath on this earth for what you did in the flesh.
I'd much rather appear to be an idiot anywheres.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
.
User: "BDK"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 07 Sep 2003 09:46:03 PM
In article <55amlvgdu4aqt0mp0sr24pn1v01aa51q3t@4ax.com>, duke32
@earthlink.net says...

On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 00:59:51 GMT, "Charles P" <chuck@spammerssuck.com>
wrote:

A solution is obvious. Don't be a Christian, then you'll
avoid all these pitfall, then you won't have to appear as
an idiot anywhere under any circumstances.


Yet you will still have to stand before almighty God when you take
your final breath on this earth for what you did in the flesh.

I'd much rather appear to be an idiot anywheres.

duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****

And you are, Dooky. You can threaten us all you want with the above
drivel, it doesn't scare us in the slightest. Your fantasies are just
that, YOUR fantasies, AKA dreams, hopes, beliefs, wishes, etc, etc.
Your obvious pleasure in thinking about us nonbelievers being burned in
hell (another of your fantasy places) shows us your true nature.
Scum.
BDK
.
User: "duke32"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 08 Sep 2003 11:28:21 AM
On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 22:46:03 -0400, BDK
<kingratatat@buckeye-express.com> wrote:

And you are, Dooky. You can threaten us all you want with the above
drivel, it doesn't scare us in the slightest. Your fantasies are just
that, YOUR fantasies, AKA dreams, hopes, beliefs, wishes, etc, etc.

Are you speaking for the "us"? Do they know that? Do you think I
care what you think?

Your obvious pleasure in thinking about us nonbelievers being burned in
hell (another of your fantasy places) shows us your true nature.

Actually, I'm sorry you're setting yourself up for an eternity in
hell. But it's your decision, freely made no less, and you get to
blame yourself, not me.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
.
User: "BDK"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 09 Sep 2003 01:31:50 AM
In article <8abplv485dhjbsfu81dcts388nb49sfet1@4ax.com>, duke32
@earthlink.net says...

On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 22:46:03 -0400, BDK
<kingratatat@buckeye-express.com> wrote:

And you are, Dooky. You can threaten us all you want with the above
drivel, it doesn't scare us in the slightest. Your fantasies are just
that, YOUR fantasies, AKA dreams, hopes, beliefs, wishes, etc, etc.


Are you speaking for the "us"? Do they know that? Do you think I
care what you think?

Your obvious pleasure in thinking about us nonbelievers being burned in
hell (another of your fantasy places) shows us your true nature.


Actually, I'm sorry you're setting yourself up for an eternity in
hell. But it's your decision, freely made no less, and you get to
blame yourself, not me.


duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****

Sure Dooky, I guess you don't care what I/we think, after all, you
think, therefore you are!
LOL, loser.
BDK
.
User: "duke32"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 09 Sep 2003 10:51:53 AM
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 02:31:50 -0400, BDK
<kingratatat@buckeye-express.com> wrote:

Actually, I'm sorry you're setting yourself up for an eternity in
hell. But it's your decision, freely made no less, and you get to
blame yourself, not me.

Sure Dooky, I guess you don't care what I/we think, after all, you
think, therefore you are!

I'm concerned with what God thinks of me, not you.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 09 Sep 2003 02:38:01 PM
In article <sktrlvoiguulamtepb29u1v8bifebb80e8@4ax.com>, duke32
<duke32@earthlink.net> writes:

On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 02:31:50 -0400, BDK
<kingratatat@buckeye-express.com> wrote:

Actually, I'm sorry you're setting yourself up for an eternity in
hell. But it's your decision, freely made no less, and you get to
blame yourself, not me.


Sure Dooky, I guess you don't care what I/we think, after all, you
think, therefore you are!


I'm concerned with what God thinks of me, not you.

That must be why you're trying so hard to impress him by harassing atheists.
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User: "duke32"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 09 Sep 2003 04:51:08 PM
On 9 Sep 2003 19:38:01 GMT,
wrote:

Sure Dooky, I guess you don't care what I/we think, after all, you
think, therefore you are!

I'm concerned with what God thinks of me, not you.

That must be why you're trying so hard to impress him by harassing atheists.

I hate to admit this openly, but you guys really are too easy.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
.






User: "dvs519"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 08 Sep 2003 03:25:04 AM
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 12:50:07 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote:


I'd much rather appear to be an idiot.

You don't have to try very hard around here, nipple boy


duke, American-American

Have you explained how you qualify as an American-American?
Every day you delay, your nose grows longer, not your *****, dufus.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Dave by the Beach
Southern California
.



User: "Don"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 03 Sep 2003 04:25:50 PM
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:20:24 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:


"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dbaclv4446no9i25opm72bap9gj385i4j3@4ax.com...

Everyone has a slip-of-the-toung occasionally. But is a Christian
supposed to curse as a way of life? Is a self-professed
Catholic/Christian, like Duke, supposed to continually use vulgarities
as a normal form of communication?

Why become a Catholic? I could not be a good Catholic because I just
don't talk as nasty as Duke.

Then don't be a Baptist - look at the language that comes from John.

John is not a Baptist. He is also mentally ill and takes joy in
reminding everyone of his illness as he abuses everyone equally.

You see... people aren't perfect.

Understatement.
D*
"The church should equip believers (to do the work of the ministry,
which, in itself, encompases many things)."
- - Anonymous
"There is not much difference today between the overall
selfishness of the charismatic movement (or of the typical
Baptist congregation) and the overall selfishness of
any room-full of people."
- - Anonymous
.
User: "Christopher Robin"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 03 Sep 2003 04:38:26 PM
"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:c1nclvoqi5r9r5i00ck2n4d2mjigfs4bv8@4ax.com...

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:20:24 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:


"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dbaclv4446no9i25opm72bap9gj385i4j3@4ax.com...

Everyone has a slip-of-the-toung occasionally. But is a Christian
supposed to curse as a way of life? Is a self-professed
Catholic/Christian, like Duke, supposed to continually use vulgarities
as a normal form of communication?

Why become a Catholic? I could not be a good Catholic because I just
don't talk as nasty as Duke.

Then don't be a Baptist - look at the language that comes from John.


John is not a Baptist.

According to him, yes he is.

He is also mentally ill and takes joy in reminding everyone of his illness

as he abuses everyone equally.


So, you don't judge his denomination by these actions... Yet, you (not too
surprisingly) will judge the Catholic Church by the actions of a Catholic...
All the while ignoring the VERY SAME sort of actions by those who profess to
be of your demonination.

You see... people aren't perfect.


Understatement.

D*





"The church should equip believers (to do the work of the ministry,
which, in itself, encompases many things)."
- - Anonymous

"There is not much difference today between the overall
selfishness of the charismatic movement (or of the typical
Baptist congregation) and the overall selfishness of
any room-full of people."
- - Anonymous

.
User: "Don"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 03 Sep 2003 04:40:52 PM
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:38:26 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:


"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:c1nclvoqi5r9r5i00ck2n4d2mjigfs4bv8@4ax.com...

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:20:24 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:


"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dbaclv4446no9i25opm72bap9gj385i4j3@4ax.com...

Everyone has a slip-of-the-toung occasionally. But is a Christian
supposed to curse as a way of life? Is a self-professed
Catholic/Christian, like Duke, supposed to continually use vulgarities
as a normal form of communication?

Why become a Catholic? I could not be a good Catholic because I just
don't talk as nasty as Duke.

Then don't be a Baptist - look at the language that comes from John.


John is not a Baptist.

According to him, yes he is.

He hasn't been a baptist for several years.

He is also mentally ill and takes joy in reminding everyone of his illness

as he abuses everyone equally.


So, you don't judge his denomination by these actions... Yet, you (not too
surprisingly) will judge the Catholic Church by the actions of a Catholic...

Duke does not suffer a mental illness per se. However Duke regularly
claims the superiority of the Catholic faith.

All the while ignoring the VERY SAME sort of actions by those who profess to
be of your demonination.

Where is your documentation of Elaine's lies and my sweeping
judgements, etc.?
D*
"The church should equip believers (to do the work of the ministry,
which, in itself, encompases many things)."
- - Anonymous
"There is not much difference today between the overall
selfishness of the charismatic movement (or of the typical
Baptist congregation) and the overall selfishness of
any room-full of people."
- - Anonymous
.
User: "Christopher Robin"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 03 Sep 2003 05:07:29 PM
"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:38:26 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:


"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:20:24 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:


"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dbaclv4446no9i25opm72bap9gj385i4j3@4ax.com...

Everyone has a slip-of-the-toung occasionally. But is a Christian
supposed to curse as a way of life? Is a self-professed
Catholic/Christian, like Duke, supposed to continually use

vulgarities

as a normal form of communication?

Why become a Catholic? I could not be a good Catholic because I

just

don't talk as nasty as Duke.

Then don't be a Baptist - look at the language that comes from John.


John is not a Baptist.

According to him, yes he is.


He hasn't been a baptist for several years.

According to who? You? As I recall, he has stated that he is Baptist.

He is also mentally ill and takes joy in reminding everyone of his

illness

as he abuses everyone equally.


So, you don't judge his denomination by these actions... Yet, you (not

too

surprisingly) will judge the Catholic Church by the actions of a

Catholic...


Duke does not suffer a mental illness per se. However Duke regularly
claims the superiority of the Catholic faith.

Yes he does. As anyone believes THEIR denomination is superior to anyone
elses. Otherwise, why stay - if your denomination is inferior, why remain
in it?

All the while ignoring the VERY SAME sort of actions by those who profess

to

be of your demonination.


Where is your documentation of Elaine's lies and my sweeping judgements,

etc.?


This thread of yours is a sweeping judgement of Catholics [note the thread
subject: Reasons NOT to be Catholic]..
Elaine's lies:
Elaine says (8/7/2003, 4:39pm):
"I know there is NO re-sacrifice, but the Roman Catholic denomination
falsely claims there is. Even their 'catechism' falsely claims so."
The Catechism says:
P1367. "The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the Eucharist are one
single sacrifice"
P1369 "The whole Church is united with the offering and intercession of
Christ."
P1369 "Through the ministry of priests the spiritual sacrifice of the
faithful is completed in union with the sacrifice of Christ the only
Mediator, which in the Eucharist is offered through the priests' hands in
the name of the whole Church in an unbloody and sacramental manner until the
Lord himself comes."
Her claim and my original rebuttal can be found in message
ID:vy9Za.69403$ib2.17572043@twister.neo.rr.com
I would post the message ID of her claim, but Elaine doesn't archive. The
Message ID was u3e5jvkt8g4mal1ur51i9phln6asab7ibm@1docnet. She had the
X-Noarchive Yes flag turned on, perhaps to cover her tracks on her lies - so
that she can always claim that she didn't really say such a ridiculous lie?
Elaine says "Catholics blindly obey the Pope"
Facts demonstrate otherwise:
Voice of the Faithful (www.votf.org)
Catholics who support the death penalty
Catholics who use artificial birth control
Catholics who support a married clergy
Catholics who support a female clergy
Catholics who support Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Elaine says I'm Earl Weber.
Elaine's 'evidence' demonstrates that (despite her claim that Earl's IP was
forged) duke32 uses SPRINT and I use Roadrunner.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=YpdYa.53615%24ib2.15551825%40twister.neo.rr.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
.
User: "Don"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 03 Sep 2003 05:25:46 PM
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 22:07:29 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:


"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:38:26 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:


"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:20:24 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:


"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Everyone has a slip-of-the-toung occasionally. But is a Christian
supposed to curse as a way of life? Is a self-professed
Catholic/Christian, like Duke, supposed to continually use

vulgarities

as a normal form of communication?

Why become a Catholic? I could not be a good Catholic because I

just

don't talk as nasty as Duke.

Then don't be a Baptist - look at the language that comes from John.


John is not a Baptist.

According to him, yes he is.


He hasn't been a baptist for several years.

According to who? You? As I recall, he has stated that he is Baptist.

You should pay more attention.

He is also mentally ill and takes joy in reminding everyone of his

illness

as he abuses everyone equally.


So, you don't judge his denomination by these actions... Yet, you (not

too

surprisingly) will judge the Catholic Church by the actions of a

Catholic...


Duke does not suffer a mental illness per se. However Duke regularly
claims the superiority of the Catholic faith.

Yes he does. As anyone believes THEIR denomination is superior to anyone
elses. Otherwise, why stay - if your denomination is inferior, why remain
in it?

If it gives him such spiritual superiority, how come he doesn't talk
like Jesus? How come he curses so much?

All the while ignoring the VERY SAME sort of actions by those who profess

to

be of your demonination.


Where is your documentation of Elaine's lies and my sweeping judgements,

etc.?


This thread of yours is a sweeping judgement of Catholics [note the thread
subject: Reasons NOT to be Catholic]..

It is my observation!

Elaine's lies:
Elaine says (8/7/2003, 4:39pm):
"I know there is NO re-sacrifice, but the Roman Catholic denomination
falsely claims there is. Even their 'catechism' falsely claims so."

The Catechism says:
P1367. "The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the Eucharist are one
single sacrifice"
P1369 "The whole Church is united with the offering and intercession of
Christ."

P1369 "Through the ministry of priests the spiritual sacrifice of the
faithful is completed in union with the sacrifice of Christ the only
Mediator, which in the Eucharist is offered through the priests' hands in
the name of the whole Church in an unbloody and sacramental manner until the
Lord himself comes."

Her claim and my original rebuttal can be found in message
ID:vy9Za.69403$ib2.17572043@twister.neo.rr.com
I would post the message ID of her claim, but Elaine doesn't archive. The
Message ID was u3e5jvkt8g4mal1ur51i9phln6asab7ibm@1docnet. She had the
X-Noarchive Yes flag turned on, perhaps to cover her tracks on her lies - so
that she can always claim that she didn't really say such a ridiculous lie?

Elaine says "Catholics blindly obey the Pope"
Facts demonstrate otherwise:
Voice of the Faithful (www.votf.org)
Catholics who support the death penalty
Catholics who use artificial birth control
Catholics who support a married clergy
Catholics who support a female clergy
Catholics who support Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Elaine says I'm Earl Weber.
Elaine's 'evidence' demonstrates that (despite her claim that Earl's IP was
forged) duke32 uses SPRINT and I use Roadrunner.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=YpdYa.53615%24ib2.15551825%40twister.neo.rr.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain

You already posted this stuff. The fact is that many years ago,
around 25, I began studying Catholicism. I attended and participated
in Mass for over one year, studied writings and had several long talks
with many Catholics and several priests. I also was told, and read,
that the mass IS a sacrifice of Jesus. Had I known you wanted a deep
debate, I would have put on my waders and dug-up the information.
Since I am on my way to dinner, I won't bother. Maybe later.
D*
Qualem blennum!
.
User: "Christopher Robin"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 03 Sep 2003 08:42:24 PM
"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 22:07:29 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:


"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:38:26 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:


"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:20:24 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:


"Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dbaclv4446no9i25opm72bap9gj385i4j3@4ax.com...

Everyone has a slip-of-the-toung occasionally. But is a

Christian

supposed to curse as a way of life? Is a self-professed
Catholic/Christian, like Duke, supposed to continually use

vulgarities

as a normal form of communication?

Why become a Catholic? I could not be a good Catholic because I

just

don't talk as nasty as Duke.

Then don't be a Baptist - look at the language that comes from

John.


John is not a Baptist.

According to him, yes he is.


He hasn't been a baptist for several years.

According to who? You? As I recall, he has stated that he is Baptist.


You should pay more attention.

Show me the google id where he denies being a Baptist. He's talked about
going to some Southern Baptist Church in Washington all his life.

He is also mentally ill and takes joy in reminding everyone of his

illness

as he abuses everyone equally.


So, you don't judge his denomination by these actions... Yet, you

(not too

surprisingly) will judge the Catholic Church by the actions of a

Catholic...


Duke does not suffer a mental illness per se. However Duke regularly
claims the superiority of the Catholic faith.

Yes he does. As anyone believes THEIR denomination is superior to anyone
elses. Otherwise, why stay - if your denomination is inferior, why

remain in it?


If it gives him such spiritual superiority, how come he doesn't talk
like Jesus? How come he curses so much?

Because he's not Jesus...he has faults & he sins. Perhaps you weren't aware
that being Christian doesn't immediately stop you from sinning.

All the while ignoring the VERY SAME sort of actions by those who

profess to

be of your demonination.


Where is your documentation of Elaine's lies and my sweeping

judgements, etc.?


This thread of yours is a sweeping judgement of Catholics [note the

thread

subject: Reasons NOT to be Catholic]..


It is my observation!

It is your sweeping judgement. It is the very proof you asked for.

Elaine's lies:
Elaine says (8/7/2003, 4:39pm):
"I know there is NO re-sacrifice, but the Roman Catholic denomination
falsely claims there is. Even their 'catechism' falsely claims so."

The Catechism says:
P1367. "The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the Eucharist are

one

single sacrifice"
P1369 "The whole Church is united with the offering and intercession of
Christ."

P1369 "Through the ministry of priests the spiritual sacrifice of the
faithful is completed in union with the sacrifice of Christ the only
Mediator, which in the Eucharist is offered through the priests' hands in
the name of the whole Church in an unbloody and sacramental manner until

the

Lord himself comes."

Her claim and my original rebuttal can be found in message
ID:vy9Za.69403$ib2.17572043@twister.neo.rr.com
I would post the message ID of her claim, but Elaine doesn't archive.

The

Message ID was u3e5jvkt8g4mal1ur51i9phln6asab7ibm@1docnet. She had the
X-Noarchive Yes flag turned on, perhaps to cover her tracks on her lies -

so

that she can always claim that she didn't really say such a ridiculous

lie?


Elaine says "Catholics blindly obey the Pope"
Facts demonstrate otherwise:
Voice of the Faithful (www.votf.org)
Catholics who support the death penalty
Catholics who use artificial birth control
Catholics who support a married clergy
Catholics who support a female clergy
Catholics who support Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Elaine says I'm Earl Weber.
Elaine's 'evidence' demonstrates that (despite her claim that Earl's IP

was

forged) duke32 uses SPRINT and I use Roadrunner.


http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=YpdYa.53615%24ib2.15551825%40twister.n

eo.rr.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain



You already posted this stuff.

Yep... and you asked again here about it.

The fact is that many years ago, around 25, I began studying Catholicism.

Yippee..

I attended and participated in Mass for over one year, studied writings

and had several long talks

with many Catholics and several priests. I also was told, and read, that

the mass IS a sacrifice of Jesus.
Then you weren't listening well. Because that's not the teaching of the
Catholic Church.

Had I known you wanted a deep debate, I would have put on my waders and

dug-up the information.

Since I am on my way to dinner, I won't bother. Maybe later.

LOL... This should be fun. Can't wait to see the... 'information'.
Especially given that the teachings of the Catholic Church as I've already
posted have clearly stated otherwise.
.
User: "Charles P"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 08 Sep 2003 08:53:30 AM
"Christopher Robin" <anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Because he's not Jesus...he has faults & he sins. Perhaps you weren't aware
that being Christian doesn't immediately stop you from sinning.

It certainly doesn't. Take John Weatherly, for example. He's a porno
writer and a troller for incest porn. Being Christian doesn't stop him.
Duke routinely makes a mockery of Christian values, it may still
take him decades to resemble what a Christian should be. Only
dead Christians can stop sinning.
.
User: "duke32"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 08 Sep 2003 05:58:02 PM
On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 13:53:30 GMT, "Charles P" <chuck@spammerssuck.com>
wrote:

Duke routinely makes a mockery of Christian values, it may still
take him decades to resemble what a Christian should be. Only
dead Christians can stop sinning.

So I gather your idea of a Christian is one that rolls over and plays
dead when an atheist walks in the room.
Sorry to disappoint you, dude.
Are you going to join the ranks of the other junior atheists in this
ng. I sure do have a lot of fun challenging what they don't know.
What say you - coming along for the embarrassment?
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
.
User: "Doug Semler"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 08 Sep 2003 08:49:31 PM
At some point in the past, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> slavered, and
posted this:

On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 13:53:30 GMT, "Charles P" <chuck@spammerssuck.com>
wrote:

Duke routinely makes a mockery of Christian values, it may still
take him decades to resemble what a Christian should be. Only
dead Christians can stop sinning.


So I gather your idea of a Christian is one that rolls over and plays
dead when an atheist walks in the room.

When the example of your Christian love is to call people idiots, and
"junior atheists..." They are two of your favorite rebuttals when it is
pointed out that you are in error or that you don't understand what is
written to you.
Oh, yeah, don't forget your blatant lies of both omission and commission.


Sorry to disappoint you, dude.

You never disappoint in making me laugh.


Are you going to join the ranks of the other junior atheists in this
ng. I sure do have a lot of fun challenging what they don't know.

The funny thing is that what Duke says is often patently wrong and could
even be considered borderline heresy in the eyes of the Catholic Church.
And why would you challenge that which someone does NOT know? I have fun
proving what you think you know is actually false.
--
Doug Semler
http://home.wideopenwest.com/~doug_semler
a.a. #705, BAAWA. EAC Guardian of the Horn of the IPU (pbuhh).
I hate spam, standard email address munging applied.
42
DNRC o-
.
User: "duke32"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 09 Sep 2003 10:50:13 AM
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 21:49:31 -0400, "Doug Semler"
<doug_semler@REMOVEMEwideopenwest.com> wrote:

So I gather your idea of a Christian is one that rolls over and plays
dead when an atheist walks in the room.

When the example of your Christian love is to call people idiots, and
"junior atheists..." They are two of your favorite rebuttals when it is
pointed out that you are in error or that you don't understand what is
written to you.

Yet I'm not the one in error. You are.

Oh, yeah, don't forget your blatant lies of both omission and commission.

Good thing I never lie on the ng.

Sorry to disappoint you, dude.

You never disappoint in making me laugh.

Always glad to oblige.

Are you going to join the ranks of the other junior atheists in this
ng. I sure do have a lot of fun challenging what they don't know.

The funny thing is that what Duke says is often patently wrong and could
even be considered borderline heresy in the eyes of the Catholic Church.

But it's not wrong, because it comes directly from Catholic sources
like the Catechism, the bible, and writings of learned researchers and
authors.
Compared to what you think you remember but never knew.

And why would you challenge that which someone does NOT know? I have fun
proving what you think you know is actually false.

Then talk to all the big boys that I quote from.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
.
User: "Doug Semler"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 09 Sep 2003 01:52:50 PM
At some point in the past, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> slavered, and
posted this:

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 21:49:31 -0400, "Doug Semler"
<doug_semler@REMOVEMEwideopenwest.com> wrote:

So I gather your idea of a Christian is one that rolls over and
plays dead when an atheist walks in the room.


When the example of your Christian love is to call people idiots, and
"junior atheists..." They are two of your favorite rebuttals when
it is pointed out that you are in error or that you don't understand
what is written to you.


Yet I'm not the one in error. You are.

Proven false. By your misunderstanding of what I wrote and your calling it
a Doppler effect. If you deny this, you will be lying. Threads available
on google.


Oh, yeah, don't forget your blatant lies of both omission and
commission.


Good thing I never lie on the ng.

You have. As proven. Multiple times. Available on google.


Are you going to join the ranks of the other junior atheists in this
ng. I sure do have a lot of fun challenging what they don't know.

The funny thing is that what Duke says is often patently wrong and
could even be considered borderline heresy in the eyes of the
Catholic Church.


But it's not wrong, because it comes directly from Catholic sources
like the Catechism, the bible, and writings of learned researchers and
authors.

When the learned researchers use information in contradiction to the source
of the information, the learned researchers are wrong. Therefore you are
wrong.

Compared to what you think you remember but never knew.

Whatever. You entered your Church through adult Catechism classes, didn't
you? You have no idea how heretical some of your views are, do you?


And why would you challenge that which someone does NOT know? I
have fun proving what you think you know is actually false.


Then talk to all the big boys that I quote from.

I have yet to see you quote an acceptable, verifiable, and valid source.
The quotes you have provided have been proved erroneous; and when called to
source other outrageous claims, you tell us to look for ourselves, because
they are "everywheres[sic]." A college educated person understands that
what you do is not the way it works.
--
Doug Semler
http://home.wideopenwest.com/~doug_semler
a.a. #705, BAAWA. EAC Guardian of the Horn of the IPU (pbuhh).
I hate spam, standard email address munging applied.
42
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.
User: "duke32"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 09 Sep 2003 04:47:40 PM
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 14:52:50 -0400, "Doug Semler"
<doug_semler@REMOVEMEwideopenwest.com> wrote:

Proven false. By your misunderstanding of what I wrote and your calling it
a Doppler effect. If you deny this, you will be lying. Threads available
on google.

Sorry, but you haven't shown anything to be false.
You don't know enough.

Oh, yeah, don't forget your blatant lies of both omission and
commission.

Good thing I never lie on the ng.

You have. As proven. Multiple times. Available on google.

Sorry, I never lie on the ng. I make a habit of never lying at any
time.

When the learned researchers use information in contradiction to the source
of the information, the learned researchers are wrong. Therefore you are
wrong.

My learned researchers are the Catholic Church

Compared to what you think you remember but never knew.

Whatever. You entered your Church through adult Catechism classes, didn't
you? You have no idea how heretical some of your views are, do you?

Actually I was baptised as an infant and confirmed at about age 10 or
so. It's been so long I don't remember what age I was confirmed.

And why would you challenge that which someone does NOT know? I
have fun proving what you think you know is actually false.

Then talk to all the big boys that I quote from.

I have yet to see you quote an acceptable, verifiable, and valid source.

That's because you wouldn't know the truth.

The quotes you have provided have been proved erroneous; and when called to
source other outrageous claims, you tell us to look for ourselves, because
they are "everywheres[sic]." A college educated person understands that
what you do is not the way it works.

Sorry, better luck next time.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
.
User: "Doug Semler"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 09 Sep 2003 07:59:24 PM
At some point in the past, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> slavered, and
posted this:

On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 14:52:50 -0400, "Doug Semler"
<doug_semler@REMOVEMEwideopenwest.com> wrote:

Proven false. By your misunderstanding of what I wrote and your
calling it a Doppler effect. If you deny this, you will be lying.
Threads available on google.


Sorry, but you haven't shown anything to be false.

You don't know enough.

Sure I did. Evidenced by your erroneous description of what I wrote a
Doppler effect. And your description of the Doppler effect wasn't even
accurate.


Oh, yeah, don't forget your blatant lies of both omission and
commission.

Good thing I never lie on the ng.

You have. As proven. Multiple times. Available on google.


Sorry, I never lie on the ng. I make a habit of never lying at any
time.

That statement, in itself, is a lie.


When the learned researchers use information in contradiction to the
source of the information, the learned researchers are wrong.
Therefore you are wrong.


My learned researchers are the Catholic Church

Your learned researchers to which I was referring (the Apologetic source of
your misinformation about the Mormon Church) are *WRONG*. Proven by the
Mormon Church *ITSELF*.


Compared to what you think you remember but never knew.

Whatever. You entered your Church through adult Catechism classes,
didn't you? You have no idea how heretical some of your views are,
do you?


Actually I was baptised as an infant and confirmed at about age 10 or
so. It's been so long I don't remember what age I was confirmed.

You would think that an important spiritual event such as this would remain
with you throughout your entire life. I remember the month and year of my
Confirmation. Hell, I even remember the name of the Bishop and the name of
the Church. Granted, it's only been 14 years. Senility hasn't set in on me
yet.


And why would you challenge that which someone does NOT know? I
have fun proving what you think you know is actually false.

Then talk to all the big boys that I quote from.


I have yet to see you quote an acceptable, verifiable, and valid
source.


That's because you wouldn't know the truth.

You dumbass, that's not the point of an acceptable verifiable and valid
source.


The quotes you have provided have been proved erroneous; and when
called to source other outrageous claims, you tell us to look for
ourselves, because they are "everywheres[sic]." A college educated
person understands that what you do is not the way it works.


Sorry, better luck next time.

Better luck for you.
--
Doug Semler
http://home.wideopenwest.com/~doug_semler
a.a. #705, BAAWA. EAC Guardian of the Horn of the IPU (pbuhh).
I hate spam, standard email address munging applied.
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User: "Mike Painter mpainteratattdotnet"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 10 Sep 2003 11:15:19 AM
"Doug Semler" <doug_semler@REMOVEMEwideopenwest.com> wrote in message
news:Vr6dnZJHqbvv6sOiU-KYvQ@wideopenwest.com...
<snip>

Compared to what you think you remember but never knew.

Whatever. You entered your Church through adult Catechism classes,
didn't you? You have no idea how heretical some of your views are,
do you?


Actually I was baptised as an infant and confirmed at about age 10 or
so. It's been so long I don't remember what age I was confirmed.

<snip>
Duke never had a formal education in the church but went to afterschool
classes, probably taught by nuns with assistance from a parrish priest.
This was almost certainly rote memory for the most part.
It was probably in line with the sex ed I got from the priest at my Catholic
elementary school.
Don't do it until you are married. (Any form of sexual activity.)
Only do it then to have children.
Girls don't like sex and only put up with it for the boys.
Boys are animals and can't control themselves.
Sadly a lot of them bought it.
Thank you Celta where ever you are.
She was my first "real" (wink, wink, nudeg, nudge) girlfriend and went to a
catholic HS. She taught me it was all a lie, especially the part about girls
not likeing it.
.
User: "Scout Lady"

Title: Re: Reasons NOT to be Catholic...Use of the word Bullsh*t...was God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! 10 Sep 2003 12:10:15 PM
"Mike Painter" <mpainteratattdotnet> wrote in message
news:219a1e9160254d9ff08ef2ca72a8a715@news.teranews.com...

It was probably in line with the sex ed I got from the priest at my

Catholic

elementary school.

What Catholic elementary school had a priest teaching sex ed?
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