"Immortalist" <reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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A man from Thailand claimed that when he was a child he had distinct
memories of a past life - as his own paternal uncle. This man had a
large scar-like birthmark on the back of his head. His uncle, it turns
out, died from a severe knife wound to that very part of his head.

http://paranormal.about.com/cs/reincarnation/a/aa081103_3.htm

I have a birthmark shaped like a eggplant with two leaves on my left side
around the kidney, often find myself thinking about cattle even though I've
never stepped foot on a farm, hate the smell of cheese right when it's been
cut ever since I can remember, live on the second floor of a house, and
drink a lot of milk even though I'm lactose intolerant. I think I'm the
reincarnation of Jack theF art Ripper.

"Immortalist" <reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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{IF} reincarnation, literally "to be made flesh again", as a doctrine
or mystical belief, holds the notion that some essential part of a
living being (or in some variations, only human beings) can survive
death in some form, with its integrity partly or wholly retained, to be
reborn in a new body [this part is often referred to as the Spirit or
Soul, the 'Higher or True Self', 'Divine Spark', 'I' or the 'Ego' (not
to be confused with the ego as defined by psychology)], {THEN} can any
of you skeptics or athiests give the correct counter-theory that
refutes this stuff or at least makes it more doubtful?

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I don't really buy into the idea of reincarnation. But, if one considers
that the atoms that compose the body are pretty much immortal - at least for
a long, long, time - that's good enough. Just a thought.

Reincarnation, as I understand it, means that human DNA contains that kernel
or the human essence, that feeling of I, that sense of me being me and not
being my dog, or my wife, or another person.

This part of the DNA can be
transferred to future generations, thus making possible a rebirth of the
same sense of the same being, the same I.

This explains some people's
ability to "remember" things which they have never experienced in their
current life,

as well as the prevalent in nature effort to spread as much of
ones own DNA, to produce as much offspring, while preventing any competing
DNA from being spread as much as it is possible.

That's an effort to assure
ones rebirth in the future.

Some of the world's wisest religions, such as Taoism and Buddhism have
at least attempted to explain this thousands of years before the modern
science of Genetics have
come close to proving it (if they haven't done so yet).

Immortalist wrote:

{IF} reincarnation, literally "to be made flesh again",

Wittgenstein had trouble with the small of his back (never recorded).
This was reflected in his posture. I have the same posture. His hair
stuck up on one side. Mine does. He had trouble with his throat chakra
(speaking). I had problems when I was younger, and still have that
psychical constriction of the throat..I had tonsils out, and a demon is
lodged in that place. I was born in 1953.

I was really surprised to see a picture of Witt. with his legs crossed.
I never cross my legs. I then found that the photo was wrongly
interpreted. I have stomach sensitivity, like Witt. I think he might
have took aspirin or something similar that gave him that trouble,
because he had aches. I have had aches in my legs for 40 years and need
to take brufen.

Music was his life. Music is my life. He did not read much in his
philosophy. Neither do I. He did chemical engineering, I did chemistry.
He was very rich. My blood line sprang from Lord Glantawe with massive
estates over South wales.

Witt. visited pontypridd and cardiff where I did my college training.
He liked Swansea. We visit Swansea and like Swansea. He built a house.
I renovated my house. My temperament is the same as his, my abilities
are the same as his. He was not an academic or exceptionally
intelligent. His skills as a philosopher came from being alert,
imaginative and having a sense of profoundity. My skills and failings
are the same. I am very good at what I do, and often catch the poor old
Prof. out, who is very good himself. (Chris Norris).

Witts sympathies in philosophy (finitism, concern over 'linguistic'
expression, anti-psychology, etc) are the same as mine. I was told that
in one previous life I was a member of a magical sect. I was told that
I have come back again to do the same thing, twice, that it will take
longer than most, but it will be worth it. Apart from those two points,
the rest is mine.

That's it. I'm him.

Immortalist wrote:

{IF} reincarnation, literally "to be made flesh again", as a doctrine
or mystical belief, holds the notion that some essential part of a
living being (or in some variations, only human beings) can survive
death in some form, with its integrity partly or wholly retained, to be
reborn in a new body [this part is often referred to as the Spirit or
Soul, the 'Higher or True Self', 'Divine Spark', 'I' or the 'Ego' (not
to be confused with the ego as defined by psychology)], {THEN} can any
of you skeptics or athiests give the correct counter-theory that
refutes this stuff or at least makes it more doubtful?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation

About 35% of children who claim to remember previous lives have
birthmarks and/or birth defects that they (or adult informants)
attribute to wounds on a person whose life the child remembers.

There is little evidence that parents and other informants imposed a
false identitmarks and birth defects on the child in order to explain
the child's birthmark or birth defect. Some paranormal process seems
required to account for at least some of the details of these cases,
including the birth

http://www.childpastlives.org/birthmrk.htm

In one fascinating case, an Indian boy claimed to remember the life of
a man named Maha Ram, who was killed with a shotgun fired at close
range. This boy had an array of birthmarks in the center of his chest
that looked like they could possibly correspond to a shotgun blast. So
the story was checked out. Indeed, there was a man named Maha Ram who
was killed by a shotgun blast to the chest. An autopsy report recorded
the man's chest wounds - which corresponded directly with the boy's
birthmarks.

A man from Thailand claimed that when he was a child he had distinct
memories of a past life - as his own paternal uncle. This man had a
large scar-like birthmark on the back of his head. His uncle, it turns
out, died from a severe knife wound to that very part of his head.

I have also birthmarks. Moles on both hands at EXACTLY same place(below
elbow).

Well, if some great person had same marks, i am ready to claim his
reincarnation.

But if some stupid person had same marks, forget it.

To be serious, reincarnation is stupid myth like ghosts. Both are for
fantasy stories.

Immortalist wrote:

{IF} reincarnation, literally "to be made flesh again", as a doctrine
or mystical belief, holds the notion that some essential part of a
living being (or in some variations, only human beings) can survive
death in some form, with its integrity partly or wholly retained, to be
reborn in a new body [this part is often referred to as the Spirit or
Soul, the 'Higher or True Self', 'Divine Spark', 'I' or the 'Ego' (not
to be confused with the ego as defined by psychology)], {THEN} can any
of you skeptics or athiests give the correct counter-theory that
refutes this stuff or at least makes it more doubtful?

If reincarnation is not real, what evidence would show that
it does not exist? It's one of those non-falsifiable religious
beliefs.

The so-called evidence for reincarnation is a bunch of cases in
which people allegedly remember past lives.

There is little evidence that parents and other informants imposed a
false identitmarks and birth defects on the child in order to explain
the child's birthmark or birth defect.

That's just being gullible.

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--Bryan

On 15 Jun 2006 08:46:50 -0700, "Immortalist"
<reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1150386410.333326.280210@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>

{IF} reincarnation, literally "to be made flesh again", as a doctrine
or mystical belief, holds the notion that some essential part of a
living being (or in some variations, only human beings) can survive
death in some form, with its integrity partly or wholly retained, to be
reborn in a new body [this part is often referred to as the Spirit or
Soul, the 'Higher or True Self', 'Divine Spark', 'I' or the 'Ego' (not
to be confused with the ego as defined by psychology)], {THEN} can any
of you skeptics or athiests give the correct counter-theory that
refutes this stuff or at least makes it more doubtful?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation

About 35% of children who claim to remember previous lives have
birthmarks and/or birth defects that they (or adult informants)
attribute to wounds on a person whose life the child remembers.

There is little evidence that parents and other informants imposed a
false identitmarks and birth defects on the child in order to explain
the child's birthmark or birth defect. Some paranormal process seems
required to account for at least some of the details of these cases,
including the birth

http://www.childpastlives.org/birthmrk.htm

In one fascinating case, an Indian boy claimed to remember the life of
a man named Maha Ram, who was killed with a shotgun fired at close
range. This boy had an array of birthmarks in the center of his chest
that looked like they could possibly correspond to a shotgun blast. So
the story was checked out. Indeed, there was a man named Maha Ram who
was killed by a shotgun blast to the chest. An autopsy report recorded
the man's chest wounds - which corresponded directly with the boy's
birthmarks.

This simple fraud was debunked ages ago by the Indian Skeptics
Society, but I guess that you are convinced, and will not look it up.

A man from Thailand claimed that when he was a child he had distinct
memories of a past life - as his own paternal uncle. This man had a
large scar-like birthmark on the back of his head. His uncle, it turns
out, died from a severe knife wound to that very part of his head.

http://paranormal.about.com/cs/reincarnation/a/aa081103_3.htm

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