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15 Jan 2005 05:32:52 AM |
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Religion Explained? |
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4154709.stm
reveals that "Serious gamblers demonstrate a similar pattern of brain
activity to people who are addicted to drugs...". it goes on to say
that a part of the brain wgich registers rewards "...was less active in
the pathological gamblers even though both groups won and lost the same
amount of money. Reduced activity in the area is recognised as a
hallmark of drug addiction."
Maybe they should try this same test on those addicted to religion.
They seem to be exhibiting reduced activity in parts of their brain,
too....
Budikka
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| User: "Ike" |
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15 Jan 2005 04:09:27 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4154709.stm
reveals that "Serious gamblers demonstrate a similar pattern of brain
activity to people who are addicted to drugs...". it goes on to say
that a part of the brain wgich registers rewards "...was less active in
the pathological gamblers even though both groups won and lost the same
amount of money. Reduced activity in the area is recognised as a
hallmark of drug addiction."
Maybe they should try this same test on those addicted to religion.
They seem to be exhibiting reduced activity in parts of their brain,
too....
Budikka
PLONK!
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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15 Jan 2005 10:13:20 PM |
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Ike wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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PLONK!
That's exactly the response I expected from a religion founded on
cowardice hypocrisy and lies.
Budikka
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| User: "Ike" |
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16 Jan 2005 02:49:20 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Ike wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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PLONK!
That's exactly the response I expected from a religion founded on
cowardice hypocrisy and lies.
Budikka
Damn my killfile isn't working! BTW you're lucky to get any reaction form
anyone. An atheist reading this NG would show addictive activity in his/her
brain. Just like your brain activity when you post in it. Also what religion
is founded on hypocrisy cowardice and lies? If you're against it I want to
join it.
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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18 Jan 2005 11:52:02 PM |
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Ike wrote:
Damn my killfile isn't working! BTW you're lucky to get any reaction
form
anyone. An atheist reading this NG would show addictive activity in
his/her
brain. Just like your brain activity when you post in it.
You'd have to have a brain to postulate such things and there's no
evidence of one in what you write. Does your mommy write if for you?
Also what religion is founded on hypocrisy cowardice and lies?
Er, that would be Christianity. Are you really so clueless I have to
keep prompting you like this?
If you're against it I want to
join it.
You're already a complete numb-nuts, so you're halfway there. Keep it
up.
Budikka
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| User: "duke" |
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16 Jan 2005 10:24:09 PM |
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On 15 Jan 2005 14:13:20 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Ike wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4154709.stm
PLONK!
That's exactly the response I expected from a religion founded on
cowardice hypocrisy and lies.
Budikka
But not Christianity, for Christ went to the cross out of love for his fellow
man.
If it was you or me going to the cross, bud, I would be expecting piggly
squealing
duke
In God We Trust
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Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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| User: "Ike" |
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16 Jan 2005 10:42:50 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On 15 Jan 2005 14:13:20 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Ike wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4154709.stm
PLONK!
That's exactly the response I expected from a religion founded on
cowardice hypocrisy and lies.
Budikka
But not Christianity, for Christ went to the cross out of love for his
fellow
man.
If it was you or me going to the cross, bud, I would be expecting piggly
squealing
duke
In God We Trust
Were you there when they crucified my Lord?
(No, I wasn't there!)
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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17 Jan 2005 11:43:15 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:42:50 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
said in alt.atheism:
Were you there when they crucified my Lord?
(No, I wasn't there!)
No one was.
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soul's place in hell, so yours could go to Heaven. Don't hold your breath."
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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18 Jan 2005 11:56:53 PM |
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Piker blindly blathered:
Were you there when they crucified my Lord?
(No, I wasn't there!)
Jesus wasn't even there. If you disagree, I'm sure you or Duck *****
will provide evidence for it. If you fail to do so, it's an admission
I'm right.
Budikka
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| User: "Ike" |
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20 Jan 2005 10:24:46 AM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Piker blindly blathered:
Were you there when they crucified my Lord?
(No, I wasn't there!)
Jesus wasn't even there. If you disagree, I'm sure you or Duck *****
will provide evidence for it. If you fail to do so, it's an admission
I'm right.
Budikka
Why should it matter to you if Jesus was there or not?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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23 Jan 2005 06:24:14 AM |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:24:46 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
said in alt.atheism:
Why should it matter to you if Jesus was there or not?
Why should it matter to anyone?
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"I see only with deep regret that God punishes so many of His children for their
numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion,
only His nonexistence could excuse Him."
-A. Einstein (Letter to Edgar Meyer, Jan. 2, 1915)
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| User: "Ike" |
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28 Jan 2005 02:55:17 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:24:46 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
said in alt.atheism:
Why should it matter to you if Jesus was there or not?
Why should it matter to anyone?
First of all, he was there. Saying he wasn't there is like saying the earth
is flat. So the question: *Why should it matter to you means *why do you
pretend he wasn't there? Why it matters, is simply about truth or falsehood.
There are enough lies about Jesus without trying to lie some more and say he
never existed, i.e. wasn't there. If someone denies he was there, then it
begs the question, why they don't need for him to be there.
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| User: "Ghod" |
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28 Jan 2005 07:44:47 PM |
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"Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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: "Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
: news:tng6v0pij744qk692u5qv0187uidfd26e2@4ax.com...
: > On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:24:46 GMT, "Ike"
<accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
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: > >Why should it matter to you if Jesus was there or not?
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: > Why should it matter to anyone?
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: First of all, he was there. Saying he wasn't there is like saying
the earth
: is flat.
Foolish xian. It is easily proven that the earth is not flat. Prove
your mythical heysuess ever existed as a real being. Now, (assuming
the impossible, that you prove he existed) prove he was a god. The
day you pull that one off........*HAH*......
So the question: *Why should it matter to you means *why do you
: pretend he wasn't there? Why it matters, is simply about truth or
falsehood.
And you're all about falsehood. Why do you pretend heysuess existed?
Can't deal with reality, eh?
: There are enough lies about Jesus without trying to lie some more
and say he
: never existed, i.e. wasn't there.
You clearly are very confused.
If someone denies he was there, then it
: begs the question, why they don't need for him to be there.
What question was that again? Even if there _was_ a heysuess,
historically, that still signifies nothing. There are no gods, never
have been, never will be (except me, of course).
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28 Jan 2005 10:40:45 PM |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:55:17 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:24:46 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
said in alt.atheism:
Why should it matter to you if Jesus was there or not?
Why should it matter to anyone?
First of all, he was there.
The biblical Jesus? Who performed miracles? Objective evidence?
Contemporaneous writings about him? Actual refutations (not
apologism) of all the evidence that the biblical claims are false?
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"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in horror. 'But what
shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A ferocious animal has sucked the
blood of my relatives. I tell you to rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what
you shall put in its place?" - Voltaire
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| User: "Ike" |
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31 Jan 2005 02:53:36 AM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:55:17 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:24:46 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
said in alt.atheism:
Why should it matter to you if Jesus was there or not?
Why should it matter to anyone?
First of all, he was there.
The biblical Jesus? Who performed miracles? Objective evidence?
Contemporaneous writings about him? Actual refutations (not
apologism) of all the evidence that the biblical claims are false?
Common sense tells us there were no miracles, unless we have been taught to
believe that Jesus was God. However, there is still the New Testament. Now
you can choose to believe that no one named Jesus was executed by the
Romans. But if I were to entertain that claim, I would need a plausible
explanation as to why and how all the fuss got manufactured. Even if that
claim wee plausible, it might not prove the non-existence of Jesus, the
person possibly some sort of Rabbi, who was supposedly executed by the
Romans for insurrection, around the early part of the 1st century.
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31 Jan 2005 05:17:44 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 02:53:36 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:55:17 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
said in alt.atheism:
First of all, he was there.
The biblical Jesus? Who performed miracles? Objective evidence?
Contemporaneous writings about him? Actual refutations (not
apologism) of all the evidence that the biblical claims are false?
Common sense tells us there were no miracles, unless we have been taught to
believe that Jesus was God. However, there is still the New Testament.
Which claims miracles.
Now you can choose to believe that no one named Jesus was executed by the
Romans. But if I were to entertain that claim, I would need a plausible
explanation as to why and how all the fuss got manufactured.
Explain, first, why and how all the fuss about Scientology got
started. That one we have evidence for, so it should be easy.
Even if that claim wee plausible, it might not prove the non-existence of Jesus
It's the EXISTANCE of the biblical Jesus that begs proof.
the person possibly some sort of Rabbi, who was supposedly executed by the
Romans for insurrection, around the early part of the 1st century.
Or some rabbi on whom Saul based a totally fabricated tale. Either
one works, but Occam says that the second is the more plausible.
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The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence.
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28 Jan 2005 11:47:51 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:55:17 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:24:46 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
said in alt.atheism:
Why should it matter to you if Jesus was there or not?
Why should it matter to anyone?
First of all, he was there.
The biblical Jesus? Who performed miracles? Objective evidence?
Contemporaneous writings about him? Actual refutations (not
apologism) of all the evidence that the biblical claims are false?
well there was a roman historian who toured the region at the time...and
he did mention that one of the common names was 'jesus' (a derivitive of
'yeshua')...he didnt say anything about there being any Gods by that
name, but maybe he just forgot to say anything...
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29 Jan 2005 04:12:34 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:47:51 GMT, Sam <srcarruth@yahoo.NO.SPAM.com>
said in alt.atheism:
Al Klein wrote:
The biblical Jesus? Who performed miracles? Objective evidence?
Contemporaneous writings about him? Actual refutations (not
apologism) of all the evidence that the biblical claims are false?
well there was a roman historian who toured the region at the time...and
he did mention that one of the common names was 'jesus' (a derivitive of
'yeshua').
That's like claiming that 'Joe' is one of the most common names in the
US. No question that there was someone named Yeshua living in the
area at the time. Very little question that there was an itinerant
preacher named Yeshua living in the area at the time.
No evidence at all that the biblical Jesus existed.
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| User: "walksalone" |
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29 Jan 2005 01:20:37 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:55:17 GMT, Ike wrote:
Can I join the dance Al? TIA.
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:24:46 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
said in alt.atheism:
Why should it matter to you if Jesus was there or not?
Why should it matter to anyone?
First of all, he was there. Saying he wasn't there is like saying the earth
Who was where, if you are referring to someone named Jesus, there were
several history noticed.
Jesus ben Phiabi Jesus ben Sec
Jesus ben Damneus Jesus ben Gamaliel
Jesus ben Sirach Jesus ben Pandira
Jesus ben Ananias Jesus ben Saphat
Jesus ben Gamala Jesus ben Thebuth
Jesus ben Stada,
But alas, no Jesus of Nazareth, no JC the home boy for xianity.
Seems that rightfully so, the claims are ignored by not only history, but
the Jewish mythology of 1st. cent. Judea.
Personally, I suspect it has something to do with the claimed Jesus being a
failed messiah claimant.
Now it s possible that you are not aware of what a messiah was & is,
therefore a brief piece just for you.
From some raw notes.
Messiah messiah, just who is the messiah?
It helps to understand what a messiah really is supposed to be rather than
what a messiah can be claimed to be, such as the Christ of the xian
mythology. In reality, and there is no comparison between the messiah of
the Jews and the Christ of the xians. One can listen to be a xians all day
and their claim for the messiah, but they are in fact in error when they
claim their messiah is the same as that predicted for the Jews, the same
one that it still expected to day.
The word messiah is found twice and in the original Hebrew grimorie, and
only in a late book written about -165 Gregorian, the Book of Daniel. In
spite of the claim that the Book of Daniel can be dated to the exile,
Biblical scholars today date it as written during the brief Judaic freedom
during & and after the Maccabean rebellion.
To understand what a messiah is requires us to pay attention to the Old
Testament of the Jewish grimorie. The word originally meant the anointed
one, which indicated a person that was in God's favor. It was applied by
priests, Kings, and eventually of course, prophets. This did not diminish
the ceremony. Until the exile from Babylon in or about -539, there was no
concept for a savior messiah. It was after this that the concept was
expanded to include a savior/deliverer from oppression and could include an
alien messiah. As Ezra said Yahweh stretched out his hand to Cyrus,
thereby making him a deliverer of the Jews and therefore a messiah.
It was after this and that the prophecies began for a new messiah to
deliver Israel from various oppressions that the Yahweh could not protect
them from. The real world called, the expanding city states of not only
Syria but Egypt was catching up with Israel. Though not a major power of
the Mideast and at best a minor player in the political activities of the
Mideast, it did have the coastal highway. A major trade route. It also
included the fertile plains of Canaan, or as some would call it in
Palestine. By themselves, not a major attraction, but they were on the
road to somewhere else and therefore in less than comfortable political
circumstances. Israel need a messiah and needed one bad. It is in these
circumstances that the concept and theology of a messiah began to be
developed, and the job description was very specific.
Among the expectations were that the messiah would be fully human, and live
and die as a human, and even more importantly, free Israel from all for
occupation. At the same time the messiah would usher in a messianic event
which would include but not be limited to the following events in which and
its lifetime.
Israel would become the head of all nations.
All nations would recognize the god of Israel as the god for all of
humanity and only the god of Israel.
There would be peace throughout the entire world and not just the Mideast.
To be fair, at that time the Mideast was all that the priestsof Israel knew
to exist with certainty.
All over these events what happened during the lifetime of the messiah, and
failure to have any of them come to pass in was evidence that a messiah had
not been in attendance, and therefore in, anyone claiming to be a messiah
and who failed to complete all of these events during their lifetime was a
false claimant.
For much more information on what messiah is supposed to have been, there
is in a web site called ask a rabbi.com, feel free to ask a rabbi what a
messiah is and how one can be recognized. Rest assured, it is not what
xians claim it to be.
The job requirements for a messiah were very stringent and they allowed no
room for error or a return engagement.
among these requirements were the following:
1: he was to be fully human and all mortal parents.
To: he will gain complete control over the land and population called
Israel.
3:he will gather every Jew from around the world and return them to Israel.
4:he will place Israel at the head of all nations and all nations will come
to worship Yahweh as the only god.
5:he will teach the world to accept the Torah as the word of the god and
the only law of God.
Six: he will usher and the messianic era, one of total peace throughout the
world.
Specific prophecies are found in and the following verses in and books.
The Book of Isaiah 2:1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning
Judah and Jerusalem.
2:2 And it shall come to pass in the end of days, that the mountain of the
Lord'S house shall be established as the top of the mountains, and shall be
exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
2:3 And many peoples shall go and say: 'Come ye, and let us go up to the
mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and He will teach
us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths.' For out of Zion shall go
forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
2:4 And He shall judge between the nations, and shall decide for many
peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears
into pruninghooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither
shall they learn war any more.
Many take chapter 2.4 as being a messianic prophecy but it does not really
appear to be so. It is still a requirement for messiah the age however
format is to be an age of peace.
From 2: Samuel we see in the following promise of being made:
7:9 And I have been with thee whithersoever thou didst go, and have cut off
all thine enemies from before thee; and I will make thee a great name, like
unto the name of the great ones that are in the earth.
7:10 And I will appoint a place for My people Israel, and will plant them,
that they may dwell in their own place, and be disquieted no more; neither
shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as at the first,
7:11 even from the day that I commanded judges to be over My people Israel;
and I will cause thee to rest from all thine enemies. Moreover the Lord
telleth thee that the Lord will make thee a house.
7:12 When thy days are fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I
will set up thy seed after thee, that shall proceed out of thy body, and I
will establish his kingdom.
7:13 He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of
his kingdom for ever.
7:14 I will be to him for a father, and he shall be to Me for a son; if he
commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the
stripes of the children of men;
7:15 but My mercy shall not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I
put away before thee.
7:16 And thy house and thy kingdom shall be made sure for ever before thee;
thy throne shall be established for ever.'
7:17 According to all these words, and according to all this vision, so did
Nathan speak unto David.
Yet we know from history that the messiah mantle was placed on Kurash also
known as Cyrus the great when he kicked out the Jews as well as all other
captive nations out of Babylon about -539 Gregorian. And
so we can conclude safely that the messiahship is not required to follow
the line of David.
Yet there is a strong desire for the messiahship to continue to follow the
line of David. The major problem with that he is even by the year is the
real, there was no real way of knowing exactly who was in that lineage.
Many forget the disarray of the Jewish records due to the captivity as well
as the moving around of the people in the population as they strove to
create a better life for themselves.
is flat. So the question: *Why should it matter to you means *why do you
pretend he wasn't there? Why it matters, is simply about truth or falsehood.
Maybe because history & the Jewish myth say he wasn't. No, if you have any
firsthand evidence that he was there, please produce it. Xians have been
claiming he existed for upwards of two thousand years, & have yet to back
their claims.
There are enough lies about Jesus without trying to lie some more and say he
Again, which Jesus. For lies can not be hurtful to the non-existent. Bit
like blasphemy, the original victimless crime.
never existed, i.e. wasn't there. If someone denies he was there, then it
begs the question, why they don't need for him to be there.
Actually, it begs no question. The opposite is true however, the claim that
it exists or existed begs the question, why would anyone need something to
be anywhere if that something is not based on fact?
Not to mention making the claim for the existence of the non existent
requires special pleading, concluding your assumption & an appeal to
ignorance.
But don't fret, atheists are used to xians making the claim, & failing to
provide evidence for it.
Ic you would like, I can post the requirements & history of the messiah
concept, pre-xian that is.
Messiahs for sale, or get your messiah here.
Abraham Abulafia (b. 1240)
Asher Lemmlein
Bar Kokhba (133-135Gr,)
Barukhia Russo (Osman Baba)
David Alroy or Alrui (c. 1160)
David Icke (born 1952)
David Koresh (1959-1993)
David Reuveni
Georges-Emest Roux (1903 - 1981)
Hayim Vital
Isaac Luria (or, Yitzhak Luria)
J. Krishnamurti (1895 - 1986)
Jacob Joseph Frank (1726 - 1791) - Founder of the Frankist movement
Jacob Querido
Jesus of Nazareth (c. 4 BC - c. 30)
Jiddu Krishnamurti (1895 - 1986)
Löbele Prossnitz
Maria Devi Christos (born 1960)
Menahem ben Judah
Menahem ben Judah
Miguel (Abraham) Cardoso (b. 1630)
Mordecai Mokia
Moses Botarel of Cisneros
Moses of Crete (5th century)
Nissim ben Abraham
Obadiah Abu 'Isa al-Isfahani of Ispahan
R. Nachman of Bratslav
Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson (1902 - 1994)
Sabbatai Zevi (Alternative spellings: Shabbetai, Sabbetai; Tvi, Tzvi)
Sathya Sai Baba (born 1926 or 1929)
Serene (Sherini, Sheria, Serenus, Zonoria, Saüra) (c. 720)
Shlomo Molkho (or, Solomon Molko)
Simon bar Kokhba (died c. 135) - defeated in the Second Jewish War
Sun Myung Moon (born 1920)
Sun Myung Moon (born 1920) - Founder of the Unification Church
Theudas (44Gr.)
Yudghan
walksalone who has no doubt that the evidence for one Jesus of Nazareth is
the equal to for Puff the magi Dragon being the theme song of the National
Hdq. of the Republican Party.
--
Quintilian (AD 35-95, Decl 274)
'Whenever we crucify the guilty, the most crowded roads are chosen, where
most people can see and be moved by this fear. For penalties relate not so
much to retribution as to their exemplary effect.'
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Religion Explained? |
18 Jan 2005 11:54:45 PM |
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PUKE wrote:
That's exactly the response I expected from a religion founded on
cowardice hypocrisy and lies.
Budikka
But not Christianity, for Christ went to the cross out
of love for his fellow man.
Since you already admitted there never was a Jesus Christ,
miracle-working son of some god, this comment seems a bit pathetic, but
pathetic is what you do and I must say that you do a fine job of it.
If it was you or me going to the cross, bud,
I would be expecting piggly squealing
I get that from you every time I confront you in a thread, Duck *****.
No surprises there.
Budikka
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