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Religions > Atheism |
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"john p" |
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19 Jun 2007 02:36:58 AM |
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Religion: true, false or useful? |
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as
false, and by rulers as useful."
--Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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| User: "john p" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
21 Jun 2007 12:47:48 AM |
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On Jun 20, 8:45 pm, Hephaestus <zeusnicobo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jun 20, 4:18 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Why?
Has he/she invaded another country?
Slaughtered 500,000 infants lately?
Muredered abortionists?
Lynched negros?
Raped choirboys?
The list is nearly endless!
(I do not expect a cogent reply)
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Ahh, the old, it's not mans fault he does stupid *****, it's religion,
really tiresome, it's like claiming money is the ultimate evil, only
now according to you, it's religion, stalin, mau, pol pot, the list go
endless their as well.
Man doesn't need religion to commit evil acts, he will always find new
ways to do that, hell, he already has.
Stalin starved his country, and countless other genocides occur in
africa not because of religious, but genelogical and tribal
differences.
That you think the world could get rid of religion and be perfect and
happy, is laughable, all in all, you're far too optimistic.
Religion has done some shitty things, but to say it is the greatest
fault, is not giving enough credit to the other travesties that have
been committed.
Perhaps Napoleon Bonaparte was right when he said:
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."
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| User: "Hephaestus" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
24 Jun 2007 12:49:03 AM |
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On Jun 21, 1:47 am, john p <john.ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 20, 8:45 pm, Hephaestus <zeusnicobo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jun 20, 4:18 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Why?
Has he/she invaded another country?
Slaughtered 500,000 infants lately?
Muredered abortionists?
Lynched negros?
Raped choirboys?
The list is nearly endless!
(I do not expect a cogent reply)
--
Ahh, the old, it's not mans fault he does stupid *****, it's religion,
really tiresome, it's like claiming money is the ultimate evil, only
now according to you, it's religion, stalin, mau, pol pot, the list go
endless their as well.
Man doesn't need religion to commit evil acts, he will always find new
ways to do that, hell, he already has.
Stalin starved his country, and countless other genocides occur in
africa not because of religious, but genelogical and tribal
differences.
That you think the world could get rid of religion and be perfect and
happy, is laughable, all in all, you're far too optimistic.
Religion has done some shitty things, but to say it is the greatest
fault, is not giving enough credit to the other travesties that have
been committed.
Perhaps Napoleon Bonaparte was right when he said:
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."
IF he was, what of it?
The fact is the poor do often murder the rich, they're called
revolutions.
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| User: "john p" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
27 Jun 2007 09:12:27 PM |
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On Jun 23, 9:49 pm, Hephaestus <zeusnicobo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jun 21, 1:47 am,john p<john.ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 20, 8:45 pm, Hephaestus <zeusnicobo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jun 20, 4:18 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Why?
Has he/she invaded another country?
Slaughtered 500,000 infants lately?
Muredered abortionists?
Lynched negros?
Raped choirboys?
The list is nearly endless!
(I do not expect a cogent reply)
--
Ahh, the old, it's not mans fault he does stupid *****, it's religion,
really tiresome, it's like claiming money is the ultimate evil, only
now according to you, it's religion, stalin, mau, pol pot, the list go
endless their as well.
Man doesn't need religion to commit evil acts, he will always find new
ways to do that, hell, he already has.
Stalin starved his country, and countless other genocides occur in
africa not because of religious, but genelogical and tribal
differences.
That you think the world could get rid of religion and be perfect and
happy, is laughable, all in all, you're far too optimistic.
Religion has done some shitty things, but to say it is the greatest
fault, is not giving enough credit to the other travesties that have
been committed.
Perhaps Napoleon Bonaparte was right when he said:
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."
IF he was, what of it?
Then those in power have vested interest in keeping the poor, those
they rule over, religious.
The fact is the poor do often murder the rich, they're called
revolutions.
Yup. And sometimes they were long over due.
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| User: "James Norris" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
21 Jun 2007 12:48:23 AM |
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On Jun 21, 6:47?am, john p <john.ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 20, 8:45 pm, Hephaestus <zeusnicobo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jun 20, 4:18 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Why?
Has he/she invaded another country?
Slaughtered 500,000 infants lately?
Muredered abortionists?
Lynched negros?
Raped choirboys?
The list is nearly endless!
(I do not expect a cogent reply)
--
Ahh, the old, it's not mans fault he does stupid *****, it's religion,
really tiresome, it's like claiming money is the ultimate evil, only
now according to you, it's religion, stalin, mau, pol pot, the list go
endless their as well.
Man doesn't need religion to commit evil acts, he will always find new
ways to do that, hell, he already has.
Stalin starved his country, and countless other genocides occur in
africa not because of religious, but genelogical and tribal
differences.
That you think the world could get rid of religion and be perfect and
happy, is laughable, all in all, you're far too optimistic.
Religion has done some shitty things, but to say it is the greatest
fault, is not giving enough credit to the other travesties that have
been committed.
Perhaps Napoleon Bonaparte was right when he said:
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I have to say that your insightful and well-written remarks about this
complex topic really impressed me. Your have restored my faith in
usenet newsgroups as a medium for meaningful discussions between
intelligent human beings. Well done!
============================================
"If one doesn't clean the windows, the cat will be perplexed!"
Albert Einstein
http://archetype.com/macro_001.html
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| User: "Hephaestus" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
24 Jun 2007 12:50:20 AM |
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On Jun 21, 1:48 am, James Norris <jimnorri...@aol.com> wrote:
On Jun 21, 6:47?am, john p <john.ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 20, 8:45 pm, Hephaestus <zeusnicobo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jun 20, 4:18 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Why?
Has he/she invaded another country?
Slaughtered 500,000 infants lately?
Muredered abortionists?
Lynched negros?
Raped choirboys?
The list is nearly endless!
(I do not expect a cogent reply)
--
Ahh, the old, it's not mans fault he does stupid *****, it's religion,
really tiresome, it's like claiming money is the ultimate evil, only
now according to you, it's religion, stalin, mau, pol pot, the list go
endless their as well.
Man doesn't need religion to commit evil acts, he will always find new
ways to do that, hell, he already has.
Stalin starved his country, and countless other genocides occur in
africa not because of religious, but genelogical and tribal
differences.
That you think the world could get rid of religion and be perfect and
happy, is laughable, all in all, you're far too optimistic.
Religion has done some shitty things, but to say it is the greatest
fault, is not giving enough credit to the other travesties that have
been committed.
Perhaps Napoleon Bonaparte was right when he said:
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I have to say that your insightful and well-written remarks about this
complex topic really impressed me. Your have restored my faith in
usenet newsgroups as a medium for meaningful discussions between
intelligent human beings. Well done!
============================================
"If one doesn't clean the windows, the cat will be perplexed!"
Albert Einstein
http://archetype.com/macro_001.html
===========================================
Why, thank you.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
19 Jun 2007 04:38:45 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:36:58 -0000, john p <john.phile@gmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1182238618.556200.89700@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as
false, and by rulers as useful."
--Lucius Annaeus Seneca
This is till a pretty good summary.
Useful to the elite to retain power by lying to the ignorant masses is
the churches only function, even today.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
23 Jun 2007 05:19:56 PM |
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On Jun 19, 12:38 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:36:58 -0000, john p <john.ph...@gmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1182238618.556200.89...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as
false, and by rulers as useful."
--Lucius Annaeus Seneca
This is till a pretty good summary.
Useful to the elite to retain power by lying to the ignorant masses is
the churches only function, even today.
--
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| User: "Michael" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
19 Jun 2007 07:07:58 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:08:45 +0930, Michael Gray wrote:
Useful to the elite to retain power by lying to the ignorant masses is
the churches only function, even today.
And yet, here you are.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
20 Jun 2007 10:07:18 AM |
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"Michael" <newsuser2@orneveien.org> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.06.20.00.07.51.944953@orneveien.org...
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:08:45 +0930, Michael Gray wrote:
Useful to the elite to retain power by lying to the ignorant masses is
the churches only function, even today.
And yet, here you are.
Here he is where?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
20 Jun 2007 07:00:11 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:07:18 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <5dsu45F36fjbrU1@mid.individual.net>
"Michael" <newsuser2@orneveien.org> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.06.20.00.07.51.944953@orneveien.org...
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:08:45 +0930, Michael Gray wrote:
Useful to the elite to retain power by lying to the ignorant masses is
the churches only function, even today.
And yet, here you are.
Here he is where?
Sitting on a chair, at the moment, "Down Under", apparently.
Gadzooks, these religious types are profound, eh?
(Profoundly retarded)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
21 Jun 2007 09:46:41 AM |
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:0qfj731ch0873s2bhgq5g70f1a97k8sat2@4ax.com...
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:07:18 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <5dsu45F36fjbrU1@mid.individual.net>
"Michael" <newsuser2@orneveien.org> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.06.20.00.07.51.944953@orneveien.org...
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:08:45 +0930, Michael Gray wrote:
Useful to the elite to retain power by lying to the ignorant masses is
the churches only function, even today.
And yet, here you are.
Here he is where?
Sitting on a chair, at the moment, "Down Under", apparently.
Gadzooks, these religious types are profound, eh?
Hmmm, I could think of better words to describe them ;)
(Profoundly retarded)
See, there you go ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
19 Jun 2007 09:10:15 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:07:58 -0600, Michael <newsuser2@orneveien.org>
wrote:
- Refer: <pan.2007.06.20.00.07.51.944953@orneveien.org>
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:08:45 +0930, Michael Gray wrote:
Useful to the elite to retain power by lying to the ignorant masses is
the churches only function, even today.
And yet, here you are.
What the hell was that supposed to mean?
--
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| User: "James Norris" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
21 Jun 2007 01:59:02 AM |
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On Jun 20, 3:10?am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:07:58 -0600, Michael <newsus...@orneveien.org>
wrote:
- Refer: <pan.2007.06.20.00.07.51.944...@orneveien.org>
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:08:45 +0930, Michael Gray wrote:
Useful to the elite to retain power by lying to the ignorant masses is
the churches only function, even today.
And yet, here you are.
What the hell was that supposed to mean?
--
I have to say that your insightful and well-written remarks about this
complex topic really impressed me. Your have restored my faith in
usenet newsgroups as a medium for meaningful discussions between
intelligent human beings. Well done!
============================================
"If one doesn't clean the windows, the cat will be perplexed!"
Albert Einstein
http://archetype.com/macro_001.html
===========================================
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| User: "RetroProphet" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
21 Jun 2007 02:10:23 AM |
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I have to say that your insightful and well-written remarks about this
complex topic really impressed me. Your have restored my faith in
usenet newsgroups as a medium for meaningful discussions between
intelligent human beings. Well done!
============================================
"If one doesn't clean the windows, the cat will be perplexed!"
Albert Einstein
http://archetype.com/macro_001.html
===========================================
Are you just a machine? It certainly
looks like it to me.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
21 Jun 2007 09:50:41 AM |
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"RetroProphet" <RetroProphet_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:f5d88v01f2r@drn.newsguy.com...
I have to say that your insightful and well-written remarks about this
complex topic really impressed me. Your have restored my faith in
usenet newsgroups as a medium for meaningful discussions between
intelligent human beings. Well done!
============================================
"If one doesn't clean the windows, the cat will be perplexed!"
Albert Einstein
http://archetype.com/macro_001.html
===========================================
Are you just a machine? It certainly
looks like it to me.
A nym-shifting, crossposting machine as well. I've plonked him several
times today alone. Guess we didn't play "nice-nice" with him, so he's
pulling a tantrum. What an *****.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "James Norris" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
21 Jun 2007 02:11:19 AM |
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On Jun 21, 8:10=EF=BF=BDam, RetroProphet <RetroProphet_mem...@newsguy.com>
wrote:
I have to say that your insightful and well-written remarks about this
complex topic really impressed me. =A0 Your have restored my faith in
usenet newsgroups as a medium for meaningful discussions between
intelligent human beings. =A0Well done!
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
"If one doesn't clean the windows, the cat will be perplexed!"
Albert Einstein
http://archetype.com/macro_001.html
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Are you just a machine? It certainly
looks like it to me.
I have to say that your insightful and well-written remarks about this
complex topic really impressed me. Your have restored my faith in
usenet newsgroups as a medium for meaningful discussions between
intelligent human beings. Well done!
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
"If one doesn't clean the windows, the cat will be perplexed!"
Albert Einstein
http://archetype.com/macro_001.html
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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| User: "James Norris" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
21 Jun 2007 02:18:44 AM |
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On Jun 21, 8:10=EF=BF=BDam, RetroProphet <RetroProphet_mem...@newsguy.com>
wrote:
I have to say that your insightful and well-written remarks about this
complex topic really impressed me. =A0 Your have restored my faith in
usenet newsgroups as a medium for meaningful discussions between
intelligent human beings. =A0Well done!
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
"If one doesn't clean the windows, the cat will be perplexed!"
Albert Einstein
http://archetype.com/macro_001.html
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Are you just a machine? It certainly
looks like it to me.
I have to say that your insightful and well-written remarks about this
complex topic really impressed me. Your have restored my faith in
usenet newsgroups as a medium for meaningful discussions between
intelligent human beings. Well done!
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
"If one doesn't clean the windows, the cat will be perplexed!"
Albert Einstein
http://archetype.com/macro_001.html
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
19 Jun 2007 06:51:28 AM |
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Religion does not kill, but people use it as justification to kill.
Communism does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
Democracy does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
I am both religious and wise.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
19 Jun 2007 07:08:07 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:51:28 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182253888.826949.146270@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
Religion does not kill, but people use it as justification to kill.
Communism does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
Democracy does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
I am both religious and wise.
What a laugh!!!
You believe in ridiculous nonsense, IN SPITE of countervailing
evidence, and with absolutely ZERO evidence in it's favour, and you
have the temerity to label yourself as "wise".
Gimme a break.
--
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
20 Jun 2007 02:16:00 AM |
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On Jun 20, 2:08 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:51:28 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182253888.826949.146...@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
Religion does not kill, but people use it as justification to kill.
Communism does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
Democracy does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
I am both religious and wise.
What a laugh!!!
You believe in ridiculous nonsense, IN SPITE of countervailing
evidence, and with absolutely ZERO evidence in it's favour, and you
have the temerity to label yourself as "wise".
Gimme a break.
--
While there is zero evidence supporting my beliefs there is also zero
evidence countering them. True science does not get into the realm of
God but confines itself to the study of the physical universe.
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
20 Jun 2007 08:06:07 AM |
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On Jun 20, 3:16 am, wrote:
On Jun 20, 2:08 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:51:28 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182253888.826949.146...@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
Religion does not kill, but people use it as justification to kill.
Communism does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
Democracy does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
I am both religious and wise.
What a laugh!!!
You believe in ridiculous nonsense, IN SPITE of countervailing
evidence, and with absolutely ZERO evidence in it's favour, and you
have the temerity to label yourself as "wise".
Gimme a break.
--
While there is zero evidence supporting my beliefs there is also zero
evidence countering them. True science does not get into the realm of
God but confines itself to the study of the physical universe.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
How many "The Gap" outlets do we have this God Character working
again?
Is must be a lot, with all the people putting forward the "God of The
Gaps" argument.
Hatter
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| User: "Martin Phipps" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
20 Jun 2007 04:58:07 AM |
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On Jun 20, 3:16 pm, wrote:
On Jun 20, 2:08 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:51:28 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182253888.826949.146...@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
Religion does not kill, but people use it as justification to kill.
Communism does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
Democracy does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
I am both religious and wise.
What a laugh!!!
You believe in ridiculous nonsense, IN SPITE of countervailing
evidence, and with absolutely ZERO evidence in it's favour, and you
have the temerity to label yourself as "wise".
Gimme a break.
While there is zero evidence supporting my beliefs there is also zero
evidence countering them. True science does not get into the realm of
God but confines itself to the study of the physical universe.
So you're saying that God is in no way part of the physical universe?
Welcome to the wonderful world of atheism.
Martin
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
20 Jun 2007 03:15:48 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:16:00 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182323760.260460.89560@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
On Jun 20, 2:08 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:51:28 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182253888.826949.146...@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
Religion does not kill, but people use it as justification to kill.
Communism does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
Democracy does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
I am both religious and wise.
What a laugh!!!
You believe in ridiculous nonsense, IN SPITE of countervailing
evidence, and with absolutely ZERO evidence in it's favour, and you
have the temerity to label yourself as "wise".
Gimme a break.
--
While there is zero evidence supporting my beliefs there is also zero
evidence countering them.
Absolute fucking "Tom Cruise style" outright *****.
True science does not get into the realm of
God but confines itself to the study of the physical universe.
More bald-faced tommy-rot and blatant fraudulent rubbish.
You are a charlatan and a liar.
In the wise words of Christopher Hitchens:
"Creationism is for Stupid People".
Go and lie to someone more credulous, please.
--
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
20 Jun 2007 04:20:35 AM |
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On Jun 20, 10:15 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:16:00 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182323760.260460.89...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
On Jun 20, 2:08 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:51:28 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182253888.826949.146...@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
Religion does not kill, but people use it as justification to kill.
Communism does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
Democracy does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
I am both religious and wise.
What a laugh!!!
You believe in ridiculous nonsense, IN SPITE of countervailing
evidence, and with absolutely ZERO evidence in it's favour, and you
have the temerity to label yourself as "wise".
Gimme a break.
--
While there is zero evidence supporting my beliefs there is also zero
evidence countering them.
Absolute fucking "Tom Cruise style" outright *****.
True science does not get into the realm of
God but confines itself to the study of the physical universe.
More bald-faced tommy-rot and blatant fraudulent rubbish.
You are a charlatan and a liar.
In the wise words of Christopher Hitchens:
"Creationism is for Stupid People".
Go and lie to someone more credulous, please.
--- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
With most prestigious, peer reviewed scientific journals having
internet portals these days, perhaps you would point me to some
research papers (or extracts there of) published in such journals that
explore the existence or nature of God.
By the way, not being American, I am not aware of ever having met
anyone who believes in Creationism. Science strongly suggest that the
creationist viewpoint is incorrect.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
20 Jun 2007 07:21:16 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:20:35 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182331235.957534.277230@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
On Jun 20, 10:15 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:16:00 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182323760.260460.89...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
On Jun 20, 2:08 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:51:28 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182253888.826949.146...@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
Religion does not kill, but people use it as justification to kill.
Communism does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
Democracy does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
I am both religious and wise.
What a laugh!!!
You believe in ridiculous nonsense, IN SPITE of countervailing
evidence, and with absolutely ZERO evidence in it's favour, and you
have the temerity to label yourself as "wise".
Gimme a break.
--
While there is zero evidence supporting my beliefs there is also zero
evidence countering them.
Absolute fucking "Tom Cruise style" outright *****.
True science does not get into the realm of
God but confines itself to the study of the physical universe.
More bald-faced tommy-rot and blatant fraudulent rubbish.
You are a charlatan and a liar.
In the wise words of Christopher Hitchens:
"Creationism is for Stupid People".
Go and lie to someone more credulous, please.
--- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
With most prestigious, peer reviewed scientific journals having
internet portals these days, perhaps you would point me to some
research papers (or extracts there of) published in such journals that
explore the existence or nature of God.
Not my job.
By the way, not being American, I am not aware of ever having met
anyone who believes in Creationism. Science strongly suggest that the
creationist viewpoint is incorrect.
True enough.
--
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| User: "john p" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
20 Jun 2007 03:51:23 AM |
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On Jun 20, 12:15 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:16:00 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182323760.260460.89...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
On Jun 20, 2:08 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:51:28 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182253888.826949.146...@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
Religion does not kill, but people use it as justification to kill.
Communism does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
Democracy does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
I am both religious and wise.
What a laugh!!!
You believe in ridiculous nonsense, IN SPITE of countervailing
evidence, and with absolutely ZERO evidence in it's favour, and you
have the temerity to label yourself as "wise".
Gimme a break.
--
While there is zero evidence supporting my beliefs there is also zero
evidence countering them.
Absolute fucking "Tom Cruise style" outright *****.
True science does not get into the realm of
God but confines itself to the study of the physical universe.
More bald-faced tommy-rot and blatant fraudulent rubbish.
You are a charlatan and a liar.
In the wise words of Christopher Hitchens:
"Creationism is for Stupid People".
Go and lie to someone more credulous, please.
--
Stupid, liar or both?
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
20 Jun 2007 07:19:36 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:51:23 -0000, john p <john.phile@gmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1182329483.180305.210360@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
On Jun 20, 12:15 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:16:00 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182323760.260460.89...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
On Jun 20, 2:08 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:51:28 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182253888.826949.146...@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
Religion does not kill, but people use it as justification to kill.
Communism does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
Democracy does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
I am both religious and wise.
What a laugh!!!
You believe in ridiculous nonsense, IN SPITE of countervailing
evidence, and with absolutely ZERO evidence in it's favour, and you
have the temerity to label yourself as "wise".
Gimme a break.
--
While there is zero evidence supporting my beliefs there is also zero
evidence countering them.
Absolute fucking "Tom Cruise style" outright *****.
True science does not get into the realm of
God but confines itself to the study of the physical universe.
More bald-faced tommy-rot and blatant fraudulent rubbish.
You are a charlatan and a liar.
In the wise words of Christopher Hitchens:
"Creationism is for Stupid People".
Go and lie to someone more credulous, please.
--
Stupid, liar or both?
To whom are you referring?
--
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| User: "john p" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
20 Jun 2007 10:30:22 AM |
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On Jun 20, 4:19 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:51:23 -0000, john p <john.ph...@gmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1182329483.180305.210...@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
On Jun 20, 12:15 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:16:00 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182323760.260460.89...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
On Jun 20, 2:08 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:51:28 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182253888.826949.146...@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
Religion does not kill, but people use it as justification to kill.
Communism does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
Democracy does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
I am both religious and wise.
What a laugh!!!
You believe in ridiculous nonsense, IN SPITE of countervailing
evidence, and with absolutely ZERO evidence in it's favour, and you
have the temerity to label yourself as "wise".
Gimme a break.
--
While there is zero evidence supporting my beliefs there is also zero
evidence countering them.
Absolute fucking "Tom Cruise style" outright *****.
True science does not get into the realm of
God but confines itself to the study of the physical universe.
More bald-faced tommy-rot and blatant fraudulent rubbish.
You are a charlatan and a liar.
In the wise words of Christopher Hitchens:
"Creationism is for Stupid People".
Go and lie to someone more credulous, please.
--
Stupid, liar or both?
To whom are you referring?
--
I'm asking you about ScientologyisHypnot in regard to your previous
post.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
20 Jun 2007 06:58:25 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:30:22 -0000, john p <john.phile@gmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1182353422.129831.196530@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
On Jun 20, 4:19 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:51:23 -0000, john p <john.ph...@gmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1182329483.180305.210...@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
On Jun 20, 12:15 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:16:00 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182323760.260460.89...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
On Jun 20, 2:08 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:51:28 -0700,
wrote:
- Refer: <1182253888.826949.146...@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
Religion does not kill, but people use it as justification to kill.
Communism does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
Democracy does not kill but people use it as justification to kill.
I am both religious and wise.
What a laugh!!!
You believe in ridiculous nonsense, IN SPITE of countervailing
evidence, and with absolutely ZERO evidence in it's favour, and you
have the temerity to label yourself as "wise".
Gimme a break.
--
While there is zero evidence supporting my beliefs there is also zero
evidence countering them.
Absolute fucking "Tom Cruise style" outright *****.
True science does not get into the realm of
God but confines itself to the study of the physical universe.
More bald-faced tommy-rot and blatant fraudulent rubbish.
You are a charlatan and a liar.
In the wise words of Christopher Hitchens:
"Creationism is for Stupid People".
Go and lie to someone more credulous, please.
--
Stupid, liar or both?
To whom are you referring?
--
I'm asking you about ScientologyisHypnot in regard to your previous
post.
"ScientologyisHypnot" appears be both stupid as well as an egregious
liar.
--
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| User: "Lermanet.com" |
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| Title: Re: Religion: true, false or useful? |
19 Jun 2007 09:24:26 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:36:58 -0000, john p <john.phile@gmail.com>
wrote:
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as
false, and by rulers as useful."
--Lucius Annaeus Seneca
This has NOTHING to do with Scientology
see http://www.Lermanet.com/LRonHubbard2.htm
The Religious Cloaking described above was invoked by a Hubbard
Communications Office Policy Letter, issued 12 February 1969 , on page
119 of the 1969 version of Volume 6 of the Hubbard Organization
Executive Course "
"All Orgs are now Churches" and
"Stationary is to reflect fact than orgs are churches" and
"All public literature must state that Scn is religious"
It also states
"This may or may not be publicly acceptable. This is NOT the point. It
is a requisite defense."
Arnaldo Lerma
Lermanet.com Exposing the CON
WE COME BACK FOR OUR FRIENDS and FAMILY
to get them out while they are still alive!
http://ocmb.lermanet.us/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=381
"He exuded evil, malice, and stupidity"
Gore Vidal on meeting L Ron Hubbard
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