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"johac" |
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06 Nov 2007 05:51:01 PM |
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Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
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Holiday Hucksters: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas'
By Rob Boston Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 12:26:54 PM EST
Your kids are queasy from eating too much candy, there's a decomposing
jack o'lantern on your front stoop and the trees in your back yard are
rapidly shedding leaves. Sounds like the time is right for another "War
on Christmas" brought to you by the Religious Right!
That's right. These days, the Religious Right doesn't even have the
decency to wait until Thanksgiving to start whining about what terms
people use to describe the December holidays.
Liberty Counsel, a Religious Right legal group associated with the late
Jerry Falwell, issued an alert Oct. 30 vowing to slap retailers with
either a "Friend" or "Foe" label this year based on whether the word
"Christmas" appears in their ads, in catalogs and on Web sites.
Focus on the Family, in an effort to be hip and trendy, has a new video
short out featuring Stuart Shepard, one of its faux reporters. The
cheeky Shepard explains how this year he's celebrating "Tossmass" by
discarding all of the catalogs that fail to use religiously correct
terminology.
Not to be outdone, the folks at World Net Daily are hawking "Christmas
Defense Kits" featuring a bumper sticker that reads, "This is America!
And I'm going to say it: `Merry Christmas!'"
How charming. There's nothing like being an obnoxious prig for the
holidays.
Lately I've been researching this whole "War on Christmas" thing for a
story I'm writing for December's Church & State, and I've noticed a few
things. For starters, promoting the "War on Christmas" has become a
cottage industry for the Religious Right. These groups make tons of
money selling pro-Christmas stuff: buttons, stickers, memos that purport
to explain your rights, etc. Keeping the "war" alive is crucial to the
Religious Right's bottom line.
Secondly, over the past year, the Religious Right has shifted the
discussion from things like battles over Nativity scenes on public
property to the language, decorations and even in-store greetings
offered by retailers.
Why are the legal eagles of the Religious Right focusing on what stores
do instead of government? Simple. The number of battles over holiday
symbols is decreasing. The courts have ruled on this matter ad nauseum,
and guidelines are in place. Retailers are the new big, fat target for
the Religious Right's whiny campaign. The Religious Right needs a new
enemy to attack to ensure those dollars flow in and to keep its
followers in a constant state of agitation and mock outrage over the
latest assaults by the anti-religious fanatics who support church-state
separation.
But it's the usual Religious Right con. Most advocates of church-state
separation don't spend much time obsessing over what stores are doing or
saying in December. When a unit of government takes it upon itself to
celebrate the religious aspects of a holiday on everyone's behalf, we
have to speak out. But the shops down at the mall aren't part of that.
They aren't arms of the government. Some say "Christmas" in their ads
and some don't. Who cares? The holiday will come either way. (Remember,
the Grinch even stole the last can of Who Hash - yet Christmas still
came.)
In fact, one could argue that all of the brouhaha at the mall is a
distraction from the central message of Christmas. Does the fact that a
giant corporation uses the word "Christmas" in its ads truly mean it is
interested in marking the birth of Jesus? Chances are, its real goal is
persuading you to bust out the credit cards and spend, spend, spend.
It's sad, really. The Religious Right's holier-than-thou brigade claims
to treasure Christmas - and then drafts it as cannon fodder in its
culture war, spending three months hawking offensive, in-your-face
buttons and stickers that make a mockery of a season that is supposed to
be dedicated to peace and love. Is that really what Jesus would do?
For those in the Religious Right who genuinely are offended because the
newspaper ad from Best Buy fails to include the word "Christmas" and the
temporary clerk at the Sears dares to say "Happy Holidays," I have some
advice: This Christmas, ask Santa Claus to bring you a life.
---
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/11/6/122654/257
--
John #1782
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
06 Nov 2007 07:28:58 PM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-221A01.15510106112007@news.giganews.com...
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
---
Holiday Hucksters: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas'
By Rob Boston Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 12:26:54 PM EST
Your kids are queasy from eating too much candy, there's a decomposing
jack o'lantern on your front stoop and the trees in your back yard are
rapidly shedding leaves. Sounds like the time is right for another "War
on Christmas" brought to you by the Religious Right!
That's right. These days, the Religious Right doesn't even have the
decency to wait until Thanksgiving to start whining about what terms
people use to describe the December holidays.
Liberty Counsel, a Religious Right legal group associated with the late
Jerry Falwell, issued an alert Oct. 30 vowing to slap retailers with
either a "Friend" or "Foe" label this year based on whether the word
"Christmas" appears in their ads, in catalogs and on Web sites.
Focus on the Family, in an effort to be hip and trendy, has a new video
short out featuring Stuart Shepard, one of its faux reporters. The
cheeky Shepard explains how this year he's celebrating "Tossmass" by
discarding all of the catalogs that fail to use religiously correct
terminology.
Not to be outdone, the folks at World Net Daily are hawking "Christmas
Defense Kits" featuring a bumper sticker that reads, "This is America!
And I'm going to say it: `Merry Christmas!'"
How charming. There's nothing like being an obnoxious prig for the
holidays.
Lately I've been researching this whole "War on Christmas" thing for a
story I'm writing for December's Church & State, and I've noticed a few
things. For starters, promoting the "War on Christmas" has become a
cottage industry for the Religious Right. These groups make tons of
money selling pro-Christmas stuff: buttons, stickers, memos that purport
to explain your rights, etc. Keeping the "war" alive is crucial to the
Religious Right's bottom line.
Secondly, over the past year, the Religious Right has shifted the
discussion from things like battles over Nativity scenes on public
property to the language, decorations and even in-store greetings
offered by retailers.
Why are the legal eagles of the Religious Right focusing on what stores
do instead of government? Simple. The number of battles over holiday
symbols is decreasing. The courts have ruled on this matter ad nauseum,
and guidelines are in place. Retailers are the new big, fat target for
the Religious Right's whiny campaign. The Religious Right needs a new
enemy to attack to ensure those dollars flow in and to keep its
followers in a constant state of agitation and mock outrage over the
latest assaults by the anti-religious fanatics who support church-state
separation.
But it's the usual Religious Right con. Most advocates of church-state
separation don't spend much time obsessing over what stores are doing or
saying in December. When a unit of government takes it upon itself to
celebrate the religious aspects of a holiday on everyone's behalf, we
have to speak out. But the shops down at the mall aren't part of that.
They aren't arms of the government. Some say "Christmas" in their ads
and some don't. Who cares? The holiday will come either way. (Remember,
the Grinch even stole the last can of Who Hash - yet Christmas still
came.)
In fact, one could argue that all of the brouhaha at the mall is a
distraction from the central message of Christmas. Does the fact that a
giant corporation uses the word "Christmas" in its ads truly mean it is
interested in marking the birth of Jesus? Chances are, its real goal is
persuading you to bust out the credit cards and spend, spend, spend.
It's sad, really. The Religious Right's holier-than-thou brigade claims
to treasure Christmas - and then drafts it as cannon fodder in its
culture war, spending three months hawking offensive, in-your-face
buttons and stickers that make a mockery of a season that is supposed to
be dedicated to peace and love. Is that really what Jesus would do?
For those in the Religious Right who genuinely are offended because the
newspaper ad from Best Buy fails to include the word "Christmas" and the
temporary clerk at the Sears dares to say "Happy Holidays," I have some
advice: This Christmas, ask Santa Claus to bring you a life.
---
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/11/6/122654/257
Great article - I should send it to my SILs :P
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
1557
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
07 Nov 2007 12:43:54 AM |
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In article <5pciipFqo6v3U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-221A01.15510106112007@news.giganews.com...
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
---
Holiday Hucksters: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas'
By Rob Boston Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 12:26:54 PM EST
Your kids are queasy from eating too much candy, there's a decomposing
jack o'lantern on your front stoop and the trees in your back yard are
rapidly shedding leaves. Sounds like the time is right for another "War
on Christmas" brought to you by the Religious Right!
That's right. These days, the Religious Right doesn't even have the
decency to wait until Thanksgiving to start whining about what terms
people use to describe the December holidays.
Liberty Counsel, a Religious Right legal group associated with the late
Jerry Falwell, issued an alert Oct. 30 vowing to slap retailers with
either a "Friend" or "Foe" label this year based on whether the word
"Christmas" appears in their ads, in catalogs and on Web sites.
Focus on the Family, in an effort to be hip and trendy, has a new video
short out featuring Stuart Shepard, one of its faux reporters. The
cheeky Shepard explains how this year he's celebrating "Tossmass" by
discarding all of the catalogs that fail to use religiously correct
terminology.
Not to be outdone, the folks at World Net Daily are hawking "Christmas
Defense Kits" featuring a bumper sticker that reads, "This is America!
And I'm going to say it: `Merry Christmas!'"
How charming. There's nothing like being an obnoxious prig for the
holidays.
Lately I've been researching this whole "War on Christmas" thing for a
story I'm writing for December's Church & State, and I've noticed a few
things. For starters, promoting the "War on Christmas" has become a
cottage industry for the Religious Right. These groups make tons of
money selling pro-Christmas stuff: buttons, stickers, memos that purport
to explain your rights, etc. Keeping the "war" alive is crucial to the
Religious Right's bottom line.
Secondly, over the past year, the Religious Right has shifted the
discussion from things like battles over Nativity scenes on public
property to the language, decorations and even in-store greetings
offered by retailers.
Why are the legal eagles of the Religious Right focusing on what stores
do instead of government? Simple. The number of battles over holiday
symbols is decreasing. The courts have ruled on this matter ad nauseum,
and guidelines are in place. Retailers are the new big, fat target for
the Religious Right's whiny campaign. The Religious Right needs a new
enemy to attack to ensure those dollars flow in and to keep its
followers in a constant state of agitation and mock outrage over the
latest assaults by the anti-religious fanatics who support church-state
separation.
But it's the usual Religious Right con. Most advocates of church-state
separation don't spend much time obsessing over what stores are doing or
saying in December. When a unit of government takes it upon itself to
celebrate the religious aspects of a holiday on everyone's behalf, we
have to speak out. But the shops down at the mall aren't part of that.
They aren't arms of the government. Some say "Christmas" in their ads
and some don't. Who cares? The holiday will come either way. (Remember,
the Grinch even stole the last can of Who Hash - yet Christmas still
came.)
In fact, one could argue that all of the brouhaha at the mall is a
distraction from the central message of Christmas. Does the fact that a
giant corporation uses the word "Christmas" in its ads truly mean it is
interested in marking the birth of Jesus? Chances are, its real goal is
persuading you to bust out the credit cards and spend, spend, spend.
It's sad, really. The Religious Right's holier-than-thou brigade claims
to treasure Christmas - and then drafts it as cannon fodder in its
culture war, spending three months hawking offensive, in-your-face
buttons and stickers that make a mockery of a season that is supposed to
be dedicated to peace and love. Is that really what Jesus would do?
For those in the Religious Right who genuinely are offended because the
newspaper ad from Best Buy fails to include the word "Christmas" and the
temporary clerk at the Sears dares to say "Happy Holidays," I have some
advice: This Christmas, ask Santa Claus to bring you a life.
---
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/11/6/122654/257
Great article - I should send it to my SILs :P
Better watch out. They may slip something into your egg nog. :-)
--
John #1782
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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07 Nov 2007 03:58:01 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9EABC3.22435406112007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5pciipFqo6v3U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-221A01.15510106112007@news.giganews.com...
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
---
Holiday Hucksters: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas'
snip
For those in the Religious Right who genuinely are offended because the
newspaper ad from Best Buy fails to include the word "Christmas" and
the
temporary clerk at the Sears dares to say "Happy Holidays," I have some
advice: This Christmas, ask Santa Claus to bring you a life.
---
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/11/6/122654/257
Great article - I should send it to my SILs :P
Better watch out. They may slip something into your egg nog. :-)
No problem - I don't drink ;)
I got ripped a new one during a discussion about cutting back on the Xmas
presents (i.e., one big gift for one kid chosen in a grab bag instead of one
present for each niece or nephew - there's 9 of them now) because I left
Jebus out of Xmas. This article would be perfect for them ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
1557
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| User: "johac" |
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08 Nov 2007 05:56:17 PM |
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In article <5pdgd9FqreshU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9EABC3.22435406112007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5pciipFqo6v3U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-221A01.15510106112007@news.giganews.com...
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
---
Holiday Hucksters: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas'
snip
For those in the Religious Right who genuinely are offended because the
newspaper ad from Best Buy fails to include the word "Christmas" and
the
temporary clerk at the Sears dares to say "Happy Holidays," I have some
advice: This Christmas, ask Santa Claus to bring you a life.
---
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/11/6/122654/257
Great article - I should send it to my SILs :P
Better watch out. They may slip something into your egg nog. :-)
No problem - I don't drink ;)
Good!
I got ripped a new one during a discussion about cutting back on the Xmas
presents (i.e., one big gift for one kid chosen in a grab bag instead of one
present for each niece or nephew - there's 9 of them now) because I left
Jebus out of Xmas. This article would be perfect for them ;)
Thanks. It is a good one. Speaking of presents, what's going on these
days anyway. When we were kids, we were satisfied with one present of a
toy, and usually something 'practical' and boring like clothing or
shoes. Nw now kid doesn't have a whole pile under the tree. And the nes
toys aren't cheap. Those electronic gadgets cost. I know adult (?)
couples who spent more than a thousand dollars on each other, and they
are not among the rich! Jeebus has been kicked out of Xmas not by the
atheists, but by the marketers. If any god is celebrated during the
season, it's Mammon.
Sorry for the rant. I'm just getting into my annual "Scrooge Mode". Bah!
Humbug! :-)
--
John #1782
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
09 Nov 2007 10:45:51 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-F42159.15561708112007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5pdgd9FqreshU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
snip
No problem - I don't drink ;)
Good!
I got ripped a new one during a discussion about cutting back on the Xmas
presents (i.e., one big gift for one kid chosen in a grab bag instead of
one
present for each niece or nephew - there's 9 of them now) because I left
Jebus out of Xmas. This article would be perfect for them ;)
Thanks. It is a good one. Speaking of presents, what's going on these
days anyway. When we were kids, we were satisfied with one present of a
toy, and usually something 'practical' and boring like clothing or
shoes. Nw now kid doesn't have a whole pile under the tree. And the nes
toys aren't cheap. Those electronic gadgets cost. I know adult (?)
couples who spent more than a thousand dollars on each other, and they
are not among the rich! Jeebus has been kicked out of Xmas not by the
atheists, but by the marketers. If any god is celebrated during the
season, it's Mammon.
EXACTLY! What really made me want to cut back was a niece and nephew saying
last Xmas Eve "Is that ALL I'm going to get"? And this is after getting 8 or
so presents from their aunts/uncles and grand parents - who knows what kind
of a haul they got Xmas morning? I was furious. My kid barely asks for
anything. I think she has less than 10 items on her Amazon wishlist and
most of them were put there by me! One of my nephews has a 7 page wishlist
on toysrus.com. I said to his mother, "Is he out of his mind?"
Sorry for the rant. I'm just getting into my annual "Scrooge Mode". Bah!
Humbug! :-)
LOL - Just call me "Mrs. Scrooge" :)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
09 Nov 2007 06:15:20 PM |
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In article <5pjh28FrltmmU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-F42159.15561708112007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5pdgd9FqreshU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
snip
No problem - I don't drink ;)
Good!
I got ripped a new one during a discussion about cutting back on the Xmas
presents (i.e., one big gift for one kid chosen in a grab bag instead of
one
present for each niece or nephew - there's 9 of them now) because I left
Jebus out of Xmas. This article would be perfect for them ;)
Thanks. It is a good one. Speaking of presents, what's going on these
days anyway. When we were kids, we were satisfied with one present of a
toy, and usually something 'practical' and boring like clothing or
shoes. Nw now kid doesn't have a whole pile under the tree. And the nes
toys aren't cheap. Those electronic gadgets cost. I know adult (?)
couples who spent more than a thousand dollars on each other, and they
are not among the rich! Jeebus has been kicked out of Xmas not by the
atheists, but by the marketers. If any god is celebrated during the
season, it's Mammon.
EXACTLY! What really made me want to cut back was a niece and nephew saying
last Xmas Eve "Is that ALL I'm going to get"? And this is after getting 8 or
so presents from their aunts/uncles and grand parents - who knows what kind
of a haul they got Xmas morning? I was furious. My kid barely asks for
anything. I think she has less than 10 items on her Amazon wishlist and
most of them were put there by me! One of my nephews has a 7 page wishlist
on toysrus.com. I said to his mother, "Is he out of his mind?"
I know. I don't know what's wrong with kids these days. It must be TV
and radio. Kids at a very early age are indoctrinated into the religion
of consumerism. A kid doesn't want just sneakers any more, they have to
be the right brand and the latest model. If they don't have it, the
other kids at school will make fun of them. And they have to have the
very latest electronic gizmos with all the bells and whistle of course.
And of course the newest version computer games.
When I was a kid, I'd nail two pieces of wood together and call it a
'gun'. and go out with my friends and play cops and robbers, or cowboys
in the vacant lot down the street.
Sorry for the rant. I'm just getting into my annual "Scrooge Mode". Bah!
Humbug! :-)
LOL - Just call me "Mrs. Scrooge" :)
Heh! I understand. The whole ideas is getting ridiculous. I used to like
Xmas because it was a time of parties, family get togethers, and
vacation. Now it's just a big corporate scan. Humbug again! :-P
--
John #1782
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
09 Nov 2007 12:04:48 PM |
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On Nov 8, 6:56 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <5pdgd9Fqres...@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9EABC3.22435406112007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5pciipFqo6v...@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-221A01.15510106112007@news.giganews.com...
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
---
Holiday Hucksters: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas'
snip
For those in the Religious Right who genuinely are offended because the
newspaper ad from Best Buy fails to include the word "Christmas" and
the
temporary clerk at the Sears dares to say "Happy Holidays," I have some
advice: This Christmas, ask Santa Claus to bring you a life.
---
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/11/6/122654/257
Great article - I should send it to my SILs :P
Better watch out. They may slip something into your egg nog. :-)
No problem - I don't drink ;)
Good!
I got ripped a new one during a discussion about cutting back on the Xmas
presents (i.e., one big gift for one kid chosen in a grab bag instead of one
present for each niece or nephew - there's 9 of them now) because I left
Jebus out of Xmas. This article would be perfect for them ;)
Thanks. It is a good one. Speaking of presents, what's going on these
days anyway. When we were kids, we were satisfied with one present of a
toy, and usually something 'practical' and boring like clothing or
shoes. Nw now kid doesn't have a whole pile under the tree. And the nes
toys aren't cheap. Those electronic gadgets cost. I know adult (?)
couples who spent more than a thousand dollars on each other, and they
are not among the rich! Jeebus has been kicked out of Xmas not by the
atheists, but by the marketers. If any god is celebrated during the
season, it's Mammon.
Sorry for the rant. I'm just getting into my annual "Scrooge Mode". Bah!
Humbug! :-)
--
John #1782- Hide quoted text -
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I can't say I didn't get toys as a kid. Generally one in the 30 to 50
buck range, one 10 buck one, and about 4 to 6 in the under 4 buck
range(generally matchbox cars.) Plus some socks and gloves. Some aunt
would occasionally send a card with 3-5 dollars. That was about an
average christmas in mid-early 1970s for me. Perhaps an item for my
model train set as well at a post-christmas sale.
As far as I can tell. Pretty standard middle class. I do remember us
getting the Atari 2600 as the big gift to be shared by me and my two
older brothers.
Hatter
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
09 Nov 2007 05:52:02 PM |
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In article <1194631488.626066.244090@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 8, 6:56 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <5pdgd9Fqres...@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9EABC3.22435406112007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5pciipFqo6v...@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-221A01.15510106112007@news.giganews.com...
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing
to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
---
Holiday Hucksters: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On
Christmas'
snip
For those in the Religious Right who genuinely are offended because
the
newspaper ad from Best Buy fails to include the word "Christmas" and
the
temporary clerk at the Sears dares to say "Happy Holidays," I have
some
advice: This Christmas, ask Santa Claus to bring you a life.
---
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/11/6/122654/257
Great article - I should send it to my SILs :P
Better watch out. They may slip something into your egg nog. :-)
No problem - I don't drink ;)
Good!
I got ripped a new one during a discussion about cutting back on the Xmas
presents (i.e., one big gift for one kid chosen in a grab bag instead of
one
present for each niece or nephew - there's 9 of them now) because I left
Jebus out of Xmas. This article would be perfect for them ;)
Thanks. It is a good one. Speaking of presents, what's going on these
days anyway. When we were kids, we were satisfied with one present of a
toy, and usually something 'practical' and boring like clothing or
shoes. Nw now kid doesn't have a whole pile under the tree. And the nes
toys aren't cheap. Those electronic gadgets cost. I know adult (?)
couples who spent more than a thousand dollars on each other, and they
are not among the rich! Jeebus has been kicked out of Xmas not by the
atheists, but by the marketers. If any god is celebrated during the
season, it's Mammon.
Sorry for the rant. I'm just getting into my annual "Scrooge Mode". Bah!
Humbug! :-)
--
John #1782- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I can't say I didn't get toys as a kid. Generally one in the 30 to 50
buck range, one 10 buck one, and about 4 to 6 in the under 4 buck
range(generally matchbox cars.) Plus some socks and gloves. Some aunt
would occasionally send a card with 3-5 dollars. That was about an
average christmas in mid-early 1970s for me. Perhaps an item for my
model train set as well at a post-christmas sale.
I was talking mainly about my parents. My relatives, might bring a small
gift or more often money. One year my dad did buy a nice set of Lionel
trains for my brother and me to share. It's not that my family didn't
have the money, but my parent's didn't believe in spoiling us kids.
As far as I can tell. Pretty standard middle class. I do remember us
getting the Atari 2600 as the big gift to be shared by me and my two
older brothers.
Atari? I think I belong to another generation :-)
Hatter
--
John #1782
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
14 Nov 2007 08:17:56 AM |
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On Nov 9, 6:52 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1194631488.626066.244...@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Hatter<Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 8, 6:56 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <5pdgd9Fqres...@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9EABC3.22435406112007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5pciipFqo6v...@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-221A01.15510106112007@news.giganews.com...
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing
to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
---
Holiday Hucksters: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On
Christmas'
snip
For those in the Religious Right who genuinely are offended because
the
newspaper ad from Best Buy fails to include the word "Christmas" and
the
temporary clerk at the Sears dares to say "Happy Holidays," I have
some
advice: This Christmas, askSantaClaus to bring you a life.
---
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/11/6/122654/257
Great article - I should send it to my SILs :P
Better watch out. They may slip something into your egg nog. :-)
No problem - I don't drink ;)
Good!
I got ripped a new one during a discussion about cutting back on the Xmas
presents (i.e., one big gift for one kid chosen in a grab bag instead of
one
present for each niece or nephew - there's 9 of them now) because I left
Jebus out of Xmas. This article would be perfect for them ;)
Thanks. It is a good one. Speaking of presents, what's going on these
days anyway. When we were kids, we were satisfied with one present of a
toy, and usually something 'practical' and boring like clothing or
shoes. Nw now kid doesn't have a whole pile under the tree. And the nes
toys aren't cheap. Those electronic gadgets cost. I know adult (?)
couples who spent more than a thousand dollars on each other, and they
are not among the rich! Jeebus has been kicked out of Xmas not by the
atheists, but by the marketers. If any god is celebrated during the
season, it's Mammon.
Sorry for the rant. I'm just getting into my annual "Scrooge Mode". Bah!
Humbug! :-)
--
John #1782- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I can't say I didn't get toys as a kid. Generally one in the 30 to 50
buck range, one 10 buck one, and about 4 to 6 in the under 4 buck
range(generally matchbox cars.) Plus some socks and gloves. Some aunt
would occasionally send a card with 3-5 dollars. That was about an
average christmas in mid-early 1970s for me. Perhaps an item for my
model train set as well at a post-christmas sale.
I was talking mainly about my parents. My relatives, might bring a small
gift or more often money. One year my dad did buy a nice set of Lionel
trains for my brother and me to share. It's not that my family didn't
have the money, but my parent's didn't believe in spoiling us kids.
As far as I can tell. Pretty standard middle class. I do remember us
getting the Atari 2600 as the big gift to be shared by me and my two
older brothers.
Atari? I think I belong to another generation :-)
Hatter
You know that could be taken two ways. I am in the weird position that
there are people on usenet that are 20 some years older than me, and
people on usenet that are 20 some years younger than me.
Hatter
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
15 Nov 2007 02:48:20 PM |
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Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1195049876.598852.121940@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
On Nov 9, 6:52 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1194631488.626066.244...@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Hatter<Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 8, 6:56 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <5pdgd9Fqres...@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9EABC3.22435406112007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5pciipFqo6v...@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-221A01.15510106112007@news.giganews.com...
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has
almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping
malls, credit cards, running up a lot of debt, and
"Whadayagonnabuyme?"
---
Holiday Hucksters: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War
On Christmas'
snip
For those in the Religious Right who genuinely are
offended because the
newspaper ad from Best Buy fails to include the word
"Christmas" and the
temporary clerk at the Sears dares to say "Happy
Holidays," I have some
advice: This Christmas, askSantaClaus to bring you a life.
---
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/11/6/122654/257
Great article - I should send it to my SILs :P
Better watch out. They may slip something into your egg nog.
:-)
No problem - I don't drink ;)
Good!
I got ripped a new one during a discussion about cutting back
on the Xmas presents (i.e., one big gift for one kid chosen in
a grab bag instead of one
present for each niece or nephew - there's 9 of them now)
because I left Jebus out of Xmas. This article would be
perfect for them ;)
Thanks. It is a good one. Speaking of presents, what's going on
these days anyway. When we were kids, we were satisfied with one
present of a toy, and usually something 'practical' and boring
like clothing or shoes. Nw now kid doesn't have a whole pile
under the tree. And the nes toys aren't cheap. Those electronic
gadgets cost. I know adult (?) couples who spent more than a
thousand dollars on each other, and they are not among the rich!
Jeebus has been kicked out of Xmas not by the atheists, but by
the marketers. If any god is celebrated during the season, it's
Mammon.
Sorry for the rant. I'm just getting into my annual "Scrooge
Mode". Bah! Humbug! :-)
--
John #1782- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I can't say I didn't get toys as a kid. Generally one in the 30 to
50 buck range, one 10 buck one, and about 4 to 6 in the under 4
buck range(generally matchbox cars.) Plus some socks and gloves.
Some aunt would occasionally send a card with 3-5 dollars. That was
about an average christmas in mid-early 1970s for me. Perhaps an
item for my model train set as well at a post-christmas sale.
I was talking mainly about my parents. My relatives, might bring a
small gift or more often money. One year my dad did buy a nice set of
Lionel trains for my brother and me to share. It's not that my family
didn't have the money, but my parent's didn't believe in spoiling us
kids.
As far as I can tell. Pretty standard middle class. I do remember
us getting the Atari 2600 as the big gift to be shared by me and my
two older brothers.
Atari? I think I belong to another generation :-)
Hatter
You know that could be taken two ways. I am in the weird position that
there are people on usenet that are 20 some years older than me, and
people on usenet that are 20 some years younger than me.
Feels weird, doesn't it? I've been online for 10 years as of September; I
used to hang out daily in the Tallahassee Freenet chat room. Most of the
folks in there were teenagers in high school.
Now the few that I've kept up with are in their mid-twenties, getting
married, having kids.
KIDS!
They were freaking kids, themselves, just yesterday. :/
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices.
--Edward R. Murrow
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
16 Nov 2007 12:54:52 AM |
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In article <Xns99E9969FD849Easkifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1195049876.598852.121940@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
On Nov 9, 6:52 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1194631488.626066.244...@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Hatter<Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 8, 6:56 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <5pdgd9Fqres...@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9EABC3.22435406112007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5pciipFqo6v...@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-221A01.15510106112007@news.giganews.com...
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has
almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping
malls, credit cards, running up a lot of debt, and
"Whadayagonnabuyme?"
---
Holiday Hucksters: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War
On Christmas'
snip
For those in the Religious Right who genuinely are
offended because the
newspaper ad from Best Buy fails to include the word
"Christmas" and the
temporary clerk at the Sears dares to say "Happy
Holidays," I have some
advice: This Christmas, askSantaClaus to bring you a life.
---
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/11/6/122654/257
Great article - I should send it to my SILs :P
Better watch out. They may slip something into your egg nog.
:-)
No problem - I don't drink ;)
Good!
I got ripped a new one during a discussion about cutting back
on the Xmas presents (i.e., one big gift for one kid chosen in
a grab bag instead of one
present for each niece or nephew - there's 9 of them now)
because I left Jebus out of Xmas. This article would be
perfect for them ;)
Thanks. It is a good one. Speaking of presents, what's going on
these days anyway. When we were kids, we were satisfied with one
present of a toy, and usually something 'practical' and boring
like clothing or shoes. Nw now kid doesn't have a whole pile
under the tree. And the nes toys aren't cheap. Those electronic
gadgets cost. I know adult (?) couples who spent more than a
thousand dollars on each other, and they are not among the rich!
Jeebus has been kicked out of Xmas not by the atheists, but by
the marketers. If any god is celebrated during the season, it's
Mammon.
Sorry for the rant. I'm just getting into my annual "Scrooge
Mode". Bah! Humbug! :-)
--
John #1782- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I can't say I didn't get toys as a kid. Generally one in the 30 to
50 buck range, one 10 buck one, and about 4 to 6 in the under 4
buck range(generally matchbox cars.) Plus some socks and gloves.
Some aunt would occasionally send a card with 3-5 dollars. That was
about an average christmas in mid-early 1970s for me. Perhaps an
item for my model train set as well at a post-christmas sale.
I was talking mainly about my parents. My relatives, might bring a
small gift or more often money. One year my dad did buy a nice set of
Lionel trains for my brother and me to share. It's not that my family
didn't have the money, but my parent's didn't believe in spoiling us
kids.
As far as I can tell. Pretty standard middle class. I do remember
us getting the Atari 2600 as the big gift to be shared by me and my
two older brothers.
Atari? I think I belong to another generation :-)
Hatter
You know that could be taken two ways. I am in the weird position that
there are people on usenet that are 20 some years older than me, and
people on usenet that are 20 some years younger than me.
Feels weird, doesn't it? I've been online for 10 years as of September; I
used to hang out daily in the Tallahassee Freenet chat room. Most of the
folks in there were teenagers in high school.
Now the few that I've kept up with are in their mid-twenties, getting
married, having kids.
KIDS!
They were freaking kids, themselves, just yesterday. :/
Kids have a habit of doing that. In my case, some of the 'kids' I used
to know now have grandkids. :-P
--
John #1782
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
28 Nov 2007 07:30:02 AM |
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On Nov 15, 3:48 pm, Doc Smartass <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com>
wrote:
Hatter <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote innews:1195049876.598852.121940@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
On Nov 9, 6:52 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1194631488.626066.244...@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Hatter<Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 8, 6:56 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <5pdgd9Fqres...@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9EABC3.22435406112007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5pciipFqo6v...@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-221A01.15510106112007@news.giganews.com...
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has
almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping
malls, credit cards, running up a lot of debt, and
"Whadayagonnabuyme?"
---
Holiday Hucksters: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War
On Christmas'
snip
For those in the Religious Right who genuinely are
offended because the
newspaper ad from Best Buy fails to include the word
"Christmas" and the
temporary clerk at the Sears dares to say "Happy
Holidays," I have some
advice: This Christmas, askSantaClaus to bring you a life.
---
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/11/6/122654/257
Great article - I should send it to my SILs :P
Better watch out. They may slip something into your egg nog.
:-)
No problem - I don't drink ;)
Good!
I got ripped a new one during a discussion about cutting back
on the Xmas presents (i.e., one big gift for one kid chosen in
a grab bag instead of one
present for each niece or nephew - there's 9 of them now)
because I left Jebus out of Xmas. This article would be
perfect for them ;)
Thanks. It is a good one. Speaking of presents, what's going on
these days anyway. When we were kids, we were satisfied with one
present of a toy, and usually something 'practical' and boring
like clothing or shoes. Nw now kid doesn't have a whole pile
under the tree. And the nes toys aren't cheap. Those electronic
gadgets cost. I know adult (?) couples who spent more than a
thousand dollars on each other, and they are not among the rich!
Jeebus has been kicked out of Xmas not by the atheists, but by
the marketers. If any god is celebrated during the season, it's
Mammon.
Sorry for the rant. I'm just getting into my annual "Scrooge
Mode". Bah! Humbug! :-)
--
John #1782- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I can't say I didn't get toys as a kid. Generally one in the 30 to
50 buck range, one 10 buck one, and about 4 to 6 in the under 4
buck range(generally matchbox cars.) Plus some socks and gloves.
Some aunt would occasionally send a card with 3-5 dollars. That was
about an average christmas in mid-early 1970s for me. Perhaps an
item for my model train set as well at a post-christmas sale.
I was talking mainly about my parents. My relatives, might bring a
small gift or more often money. One year my dad did buy a nice set of
Lionel trains for my brother and me to share. It's not that my family
didn't have the money, but my parent's didn't believe in spoiling us
kids.
As far as I can tell. Pretty standard middle class. I do remember
us getting the Atari 2600 as the big gift to be shared by me and my
two older brothers.
Atari? I think I belong to another generation :-)
Hatter
You know that could be taken two ways. I am in the weird position that
there are people on usenet that are 20 some years older than me, and
people on usenet that are 20 some years younger than me.
Feels weird, doesn't it? I've been online for 10 years as of September; I
used to hang out daily in the Tallahassee Freenet chat room. Most of the
folks in there were teenagers in high school.
Now the few that I've kept up with are in their mid-twenties, getting
married, having kids.
KIDS!
They were freaking kids, themselves, just yesterday. :/
--
I ran into on myspace, a freind from Catholic High School. He was a
New Wave/Punk anti-authority type with a minor bit of self
righteousness...I don't really want to bother with him because he's a
Christian Conservative with a mercedes and kids now. Just another
sellout like the hippie turned yuppies he used to complain long and
loud about. I don't know why he would think I'd want anything to do
with him.
Hatter
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
08 Dec 2007 12:42:52 PM |
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Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in
news:f8b75608-5769-4c89-9bbc-adf0f8eea265@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com:
On Nov 15, 3:48 pm, Doc Smartass <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com>
wrote:
Hatter <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote
innews:1195049876.598852.121940@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
On Nov 9, 6:52 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article
<1194631488.626066.244...@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Hatter<Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 8, 6:56 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <5pdgd9Fqres...@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9EABC3.22435406112007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5pciipFqo6v...@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-221A01.15510106112007@news.giganews.com...
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has
almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping
malls, credit cards, running up a lot of debt, and
"Whadayagonnabuyme?"
---
Holiday Hucksters: Religious Right Cranks Up Another
`War On Christmas'
snip
For those in the Religious Right who genuinely are
offended because the
newspaper ad from Best Buy fails to include the word
"Christmas" and the
temporary clerk at the Sears dares to say "Happy
Holidays," I have some
advice: This Christmas, askSantaClaus to bring you a
life.
---
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/11/6/122654/257
Great article - I should send it to my SILs :P
Better watch out. They may slip something into your egg
nog.
:-)
No problem - I don't drink ;)
Good!
I got ripped a new one during a discussion about cutting
back on the Xmas presents (i.e., one big gift for one kid
chosen in a grab bag instead of one
present for each niece or nephew - there's 9 of them now)
because I left Jebus out of Xmas. This article would be
perfect for them ;)
Thanks. It is a good one. Speaking of presents, what's going
on these days anyway. When we were kids, we were satisfied
with one present of a toy, and usually something 'practical'
and boring like clothing or shoes. Nw now kid doesn't have a
whole pile under the tree. And the nes toys aren't cheap.
Those electronic gadgets cost. I know adult (?) couples who
spent more than a thousand dollars on each other, and they are
not among the rich! Jeebus has been kicked out of Xmas not by
the atheists, but by the marketers. If any god is celebrated
during the season, it's Mammon.
Sorry for the rant. I'm just getting into my annual "Scrooge
Mode". Bah! Humbug! :-)
--
John #1782- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I can't say I didn't get toys as a kid. Generally one in the 30
to 50 buck range, one 10 buck one, and about 4 to 6 in the under
4 buck range(generally matchbox cars.) Plus some socks and
gloves. Some aunt would occasionally send a card with 3-5
dollars. That was about an average christmas in mid-early 1970s
for me. Perhaps an item for my model train set as well at a
post-christmas sale.
I was talking mainly about my parents. My relatives, might bring a
small gift or more often money. One year my dad did buy a nice set
of Lionel trains for my brother and me to share. It's not that my
family didn't have the money, but my parent's didn't believe in
spoiling us kids.
As far as I can tell. Pretty standard middle class. I do
remember us getting the Atari 2600 as the big gift to be shared
by me and my two older brothers.
Atari? I think I belong to another generation :-)
Hatter
You know that could be taken two ways. I am in the weird position
that there are people on usenet that are 20 some years older than
me, and people on usenet that are 20 some years younger than me.
Feels weird, doesn't it? I've been online for 10 years as of
September; I used to hang out daily in the Tallahassee Freenet chat
room. Most of the folks in there were teenagers in high school.
Now the few that I've kept up with are in their mid-twenties, getting
married, having kids.
KIDS!
They were freaking kids, themselves, just yesterday. :/
--
I ran into on myspace, a freind from Catholic High School. He was a
New Wave/Punk anti-authority type with a minor bit of self
righteousness...I don't really want to bother with him because he's a
Christian Conservative with a mercedes and kids now. Just another
sellout like the hippie turned yuppies he used to complain long and
loud about. I don't know why he would think I'd want anything to do
with him.
He wants to make you into another him--a pod-person!
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices.
--Edward R. Murrow
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| User: "mizlee" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
07 Nov 2007 07:19:35 AM |
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Whenever a RR looney Claims that, as an atheist, I am not supposed to
celebrate Xmas, I just say, "But I looooove Christmas! It's the most
deliciously pagan holiday of all! And BTW, Happy Solstice!"
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
07 Nov 2007 08:41:00 PM |
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"mizlee" <mizlee@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1194441575.781127.326220@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Whenever a RR looney Claims that, as an atheist, I am not supposed to
celebrate Xmas, I just say, "But I looooove Christmas! It's the most
deliciously pagan holiday of all! And BTW, Happy Solstice!"
Winterval!
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
08 Nov 2007 10:52:27 AM |
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"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote in message
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"mizlee" <mizlee@aol.com> wrote in message
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Whenever a RR looney Claims that, as an atheist, I am not supposed to
celebrate Xmas, I just say, "But I looooove Christmas! It's the most
deliciously pagan holiday of all! And BTW, Happy Solstice!"
Winterval!
Festivus for the rest of us!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
07 Nov 2007 08:47:42 PM |
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:19:35 -0800, mizlee <mizlee@aol.com> wrote:
Whenever a RR looney Claims that, as an atheist, I am not supposed to
celebrate Xmas, I just say, "But I looooove Christmas! It's the most
deliciously pagan holiday of all! And BTW, Happy Solstice!"
Ask her if it means she frigs herself off on Friday, named after
Freya/Frigga the Germanic goddess of fertility.
Or any of the other days - Saturn, Sum, Moon, Tyr, Woden or Thor.
Hmmm....
All pagan, none Christian.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
06 Nov 2007 09:49:48 PM |
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:51:01 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
The retail world knows what Disney learned - you don't lose money
standing up to extremists.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more
closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain
folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House
will be adorned by a downright moron."
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
07 Nov 2007 12:34:40 AM |
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In article <ndd2j3hd0hbs1u03pqdq88v0fnaiaahjmt@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:51:01 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
The retail world knows what Disney learned - you don't lose money
standing up to extremists.
Yep. For them it's a Merry Chri$tma$$ every year.
--
John #1782
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
06 Nov 2007 11:32:41 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> bloodied us up
with this:
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:51:01 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
The retail world knows what Disney learned - you don't lose money
standing up to extremists.
Or selling them jeebuscandles.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: johac - a joke - Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
08 Nov 2007 03:32:16 PM |
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:51:01 -0800, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
We Roman Catholics are heavy into the birth of the Lord Jesus celebrated on
Christmas.
What do you do on Christmas day, johac. Do you go to work, or are you a
hypocrite and take the religious day off?
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: johac - a joke - Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
08 Nov 2007 05:44:25 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:51:01 -0800, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
We Roman Catholics are heavy into the birth of the Lord Jesus celebrated
on
Christmas.
What do you do on Christmas day, johac. Do you go to work, or are you a
hypocrite and take the religious day off?
You don't have much choice, when your employer closes your workplace for the
holidays.
duke, Idiotic-Moron
*****
"Masturbation is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: johac - a joke - Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
10 Nov 2007 12:28:07 AM |
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In article <tbNYi.32863$uH.13056@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:51:01 -0800, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
We Roman Catholics are heavy into the birth of the Lord Jesus celebrated
on
Christmas.
What do you do on Christmas day, johac. Do you go to work, or are you a
hypocrite and take the religious day off?
You don't have much choice, when your employer closes your workplace for the
holidays.
Too bad the little moron is in my killfile, so I couldn't see the
original. I'm retired now, so Xmas is just another day to me.
The last place that I worked, they shut down between Xmas Eve and New
Year's day so I couldn't work if I wanted to.
Dooky is such a nitwit.
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John #1782
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: johac - a joke - Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
10 Nov 2007 11:11:22 AM |
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:44:25 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:51:01 -0800, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
We Roman Catholics are heavy into the birth of the Lord Jesus celebrated
on
Christmas.
What do you do on Christmas day, johac. Do you go to work, or are you a
hypocrite and take the religious day off?
You don't have much choice, when your employer closes your workplace for the
holidays.
Why don't you return his holiday pay to him then?
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: johac - a joke - Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
10 Nov 2007 07:56:10 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:44:25 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:51:01 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
We Roman Catholics are heavy into the birth of the Lord Jesus celebrated
on
Christmas.
What do you do on Christmas day, johac. Do you go to work, or are you a
hypocrite and take the religious day off?
You don't have much choice, when your employer closes your workplace for
the
holidays.
Why don't you return his holiday pay to him then?
I'm retired now, but when I was working almost 40% of my total salary was
returned to my employer every year.
duke, Idiotic-Moron
*****
"Masturbation is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: johac - a joke - Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
11 Nov 2007 07:19:15 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:56:10 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
We Roman Catholics are heavy into the birth of the Lord Jesus celebrated
on Christmas.
What do you do on Christmas day, johac. Do you go to work, or are you a
hypocrite and take the religious day off?
You don't have much choice, when your employer closes your workplace for
the holidays.
Why don't you return his holiday pay to him then?
I'm retired now, but when I was working almost 40% of my total salary was
returned to my employer every year.
Why didn't you give back your Christmas pay also?
smile
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: johac - a joke - Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
11 Nov 2007 05:59:43 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:56:10 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
We Roman Catholics are heavy into the birth of the Lord Jesus
celebrated
on Christmas.
What do you do on Christmas day, johac. Do you go to work, or are you
a
hypocrite and take the religious day off?
You don't have much choice, when your employer closes your workplace for
the holidays.
Why don't you return his holiday pay to him then?
I'm retired now, but when I was working almost 40% of my total salary was
returned to my employer every year.
Why didn't you give back your Christmas pay also?
Why should I have to have been disadvantaged above and beyond my colleagues,
some of whom were JWs, Muslims, Hindus, Sihks, Bhuddists and Jews?
Does the fact that I (and they) don't believe in xmas mean I (and they)
didn't deserve a holiday?
smile
Laughing at your stupidity.
duke, Idiotic-Moron
*****
"Masturbation is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: johac - a joke - Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
11 Nov 2007 04:49:25 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:56:10 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
We Roman Catholics are heavy into the birth of the Lord Jesus
celebrated
on Christmas.
What do you do on Christmas day, johac. Do you go to work, or are you
a
hypocrite and take the religious day off?
You don't have much choice, when your employer closes your workplace for
the holidays.
Why don't you return his holiday pay to him then?
I'm retired now, but when I was working almost 40% of my total salary was
returned to my employer every year.
Why didn't you give back your Christmas pay also?
smile
This is Pukey's new thing. Instead of cackling madly
in his responses, he now writes 'smile'. Silly sicko.
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^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
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When fascism comes to America, it will be
wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross -
Sinclair Lewis
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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| Title: Re: johac - a joke - Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
11 Nov 2007 09:12:15 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:19:15 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:56:10 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
We Roman Catholics are heavy into the birth of the Lord Jesus celebrated
on Christmas.
What do you do on Christmas day, johac. Do you go to work, or are you a
hypocrite and take the religious day off?
You don't have much choice, when your employer closes your workplace for
the holidays.
Why don't you return his holiday pay to him then?
I'm retired now, but when I was working almost 40% of my total salary was
returned to my employer every year.
Why didn't you give back your Christmas pay also?
smile
It isn't Xmas pay, it is holiday pay. It is his compensation from his employer, for the
inconvenience of having to stay away from his much loved job, and do domestic chores
instead.
--
The spelling like any opinion stated here
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Kill Filed by David Morgan, and his Mam.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: johac - a joke - Religious Right Cranks Up Another `War On Christmas' |
12 Nov 2007 12:59:03 AM |
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In article <gr6ej3hbhng121mnfos99p75odhi8brcf8@4ax.com>,
Dubh Ghall <puck@pooks-hill.fey> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:19:15 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:56:10 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
The religious kooks just don't get it. Christmas has almost nothing to
do with baby Jeebus anymore. It's all about shopping malls, credit
cards, running up a lot of debt, and "Whadayagonnabuyme?"
We Roman Catholics are heavy into the birth of the Lord Jesus
celebrated
on Christmas.
What do you do on Christmas day, johac. Do you go to work, or are you | | | | | | | |
