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"Deuteros" |
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05 Feb 2006 04:21:56 PM |
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Religious Sensitivies of Jizlam |
In politics, it is sometimes too easy to de-humanize your opponents and
forget that they have real feelings. And it seems that members of the
Religion of Peace are a more sensitive group than many of us realized.
Yes, the same religion which brought you September-11, countless suicide
bombings, infibulation, and the murder of several hundred innocent people in
Madrid and London have a sensitive side. Many of them have been squealing
like stuck pigs over the publishing of 12 cartoons of the prophet Mohammad
in a Danish newspaper.
It seems that publishing cartoons of Mohammad crosses "one of Islam's sacred
boundaries". While most people in The West don't have a problem poking fun
at a thug turned warlord pedophile who has been dead for 1500 years, it
seems that in the Middle East, this is a violation of their citadel of
dignity. Warlord pedophiles are to revered, not mocked, in the cradle of
civilization.
The Weak-end Westerner has labeled this as the biggest clash of cultures
between Christianity and Islam since Salman Rushdie dared to publish his
'Satanic Verses'. Apparently the spate of suicide bombings and a gulf war,
didn't qualify as a clash of cultures - they were just misunderstandings.
And the War Against Terror? Nothing to do with Islam. It's just coincidence
that the enemy are all Muslims. Even Dubya talks of Islam as being one of
the 'Great Religions'. Well, if popularity is the measure of Greatness, then
it stands to reason. Over a billion people call themselves Muslims.
Usually incidents of Islamacist ranting can be dismissed by Leftist
apologists as merely the opinions of a few 'hardline Islamic leaders' (ie
psychopaths), and to deny that they represent any significant feeling in the
Muslim community. But in this case that's a bit harder, as evidenced by the
fact that it has obvious widespread support - Danish products have been
voluntarily boycotted around the Middle East, and Danish companies are
having to lay off workers as a result. One misguided psychopath can attack
an embassy or blow himself up on a train, but one person does not have the
buying power to cause mass layoffs in another country.
There can be few surer indications that the teachings of Islam are not
compatible with notions of freedom of speech, personal choice or even
freedom of thought. Ultimately any argument can be silenced with 'I find
that deeply offensive and it violates my sacred boundaries'. Many Leftists
might entrust governments with making a fair trade-off, but how many are
willing to trust a Muslim cleric?
Democracy, it is often said, is the compromise between beliefs. Different
people in democracies want different things, and democracy works because it
tends to find a solution which, while it doesn't please everyone, at least
everyone can live with. However there are some things which cannot
compromise. There is no compromise between the beliefs that 'I have the
right to rape you' and 'You do not have the right to rape me'. The two are
not just different opinions worthy of equal consideration and compromise.
They are just incompatible beliefs. Any compromise 'well then you can rape
me on Thursdays' is not a compromise at all. It is a capitulation to evil.
Likewise the belief that blasphemy laws can be imposed upon non-believers
cannot be reconciled with beliefs about personal freedom. They are just
incompatible. These Islamic teachings are just not compatible with Western
culture, and have no place in it.
On the other hand it could be argued that the Muslim world is becoming more
Westernized. In modern Western culture, everyone wants to be a victim - the
feminists, the Aboriginal lobbyists, the multicultural groups, and now of
course, the Religion of Peace is claiming that status. Maybe the followers
of the Religion of Peace are more Westernized than we realize?
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| User: "Anneke.A" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Sensitivies of Jizlam |
06 Feb 2006 01:57:51 PM |
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"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1q9hhi9cw6qx.dlg@sec12-orange.ultima.com...
In politics, it is sometimes too easy to de-humanize your opponents and
forget that they have real feelings.
Ah yes right: Cartoons historically caused one of the many British-Dutch
wars in the seventeenhundreds. The option in this time is clear: They bomb
us and we respond with a cartoon. This is not funny: Up to now this caused
the death of five worldwide. This Iranian paper with the notion of a counter
cartoonattack can only fail as most of us westerners would probably smile at
the attempts. I never know of any fanatic who could laugh anyway.
A.
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| User: "Anneke.A" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Sensitivies of Jizlam |
06 Feb 2006 03:31:45 PM |
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"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1q9hhi9cw6qx.dlg@sec12-orange.ultima.com...
In politics, it is sometimes too easy to de-humanize your opponents and
forget that they have real feelings. And it seems that members of the
Religion of Peace are a more sensitive group than many of us realized.
Yes, the same religion which brought you September-11, countless suicide
bombings, infibulation, and the murder of several hundred innocent people
in
Madrid and London have a sensitive side. Many of them have been squealing
like stuck pigs over the publishing of 12 cartoons of the prophet Mohammad
in a Danish newspaper.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/009804.php
There were 15 toons. The disgust is that the Danish tabloid Extra Bladet got
hold of a 43-page report that Danish Muslim leaders and imams, on a tour of
the Islamic world are handing out to their contacts to "explain" how
offensive the cartoons are.
Akkari claimed he does not know the origin of the three pictures. He said
they had been sent anonymously to Danish Muslims. However, when Ekstra
Bladet asked if it could talk to these Muslims, Akkari refused to reveal
their identity.
Which means these three extra were made up by the imams.
A.
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| User: "Anarchist" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Sensitivies of Jizlam |
05 Feb 2006 08:19:43 PM |
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In politics, it is sometimes too easy to de-humanize your opponents and
forget that they have real feelings. And it seems that members of the
Religion of Peace are a more sensitive group than many of us realized.
What Religion of Peace?
Muslims have this principle of abrogation.
It means that that where two verses in the Quran are in contradiction, the
later takes precedence.
And in general
the peaceful surahs were written in Mecca
the warlike surahs were written in Medina
The Medina surahs were the later.
Does that sound peaceful?
There are verses which command the Muslim to "Slay the pagans wherever you
find them".
Does that sound peaceful?
Or Bin Laden's verse, the verse of the Sword, Surah 9:5
"so when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters where
ever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait
for them in every ambush"
Does that sound peaceful?
Islam at its very start propagated by sword and terror. Nothing has changed.
It has had periods of dormancy.
But in the end, the Quran backs up the violence to be done on non-Muslims.
Anarchist
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Bigotry of "Christians" |
05 Feb 2006 06:03:44 PM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
In politics, it is sometimes too easy to de-humanize your opponents and
forget that they have real feelings.
Why do I know that what follows is going to be a self-serving
raiotnlaization for dehumanizing people?
And it seems that members of the
Religion of Peace are a more sensitive group than many of us realized.
Yes, the same religion which brought you September-11,
There isn't one.
countless suicide
bombings, infibulation, and the murder of several hundred innocent people in
Madrid and London have a sensitive side.
As opposed to the religion which brought you the deaths of 120,000+
innocent people in Iraq? The "christian" society which supports
oppressive and murderous dictatorships worldwide?
Many of them have been squealing
like stuck pigs
And there is the dehumanization and bigotry.
What a surprise.
like stuck pigs over the publishing of 12 cartoons of the prophet Mohammad
in a Danish newspaper.
Which is _so_ much different from clininc bombings, assassination of
doctors, and the screeching outrage over Christmas.
Hypocritical bigot.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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05 Feb 2006 08:53:26 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:43e69260$0$58062$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
like stuck pigs over the publishing of 12 cartoons of the prophet
Mohammad in a Danish newspaper.
Which is _so_ much different from clininc bombings, assassination of
doctors,
So you're saying that Christians have killed maybe 10 people in the name
of religion in the last decade.
and the screeching outrage over Christmas.
Christians don't riot and torch embassies over Christmas or cartoons in
newspapers.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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05 Feb 2006 11:26:41 PM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
like stuck pigs over the publishing of 12 cartoons of the prophet
Mohammad in a Danish newspaper.
Which is _so_ much different from clininc bombings, assassination of
doctors,
So you're saying that Christians have killed maybe 10 people in the name
of religion in the last decade.
And then there's the 100,000+ killed in Iraq.
and the screeching outrage over Christmas.
Christians don't riot and torch embassies over Christmas or cartoons in
newspapers.
They go to war over lies.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "James Calivar" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Sensitivies of Jizlam |
06 Feb 2006 12:04:09 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
like stuck pigs over the publishing of 12 cartoons of the prophet
Mohammad in a Danish newspaper.
Which is _so_ much different from clininc bombings, assassination of
doctors,
So you're saying that Christians have killed maybe 10 people in the name
of religion in the last decade.
And then there's the 100,000+ killed in Iraq.
A figure completely fabricated, and totally unsubstantiable. Try again,
leftie.
and the screeching outrage over Christmas.
Christians don't riot and torch embassies over Christmas or cartoons in
newspapers.
They go to war over lies.
Ah, yes - it was CHRISTIANS that started the war against terror, wasn't
it? It certainly had NOTHING to do with Islam.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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06 Feb 2006 01:05:20 AM |
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James Calivar <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
like stuck pigs over the publishing of 12 cartoons of the prophet
Mohammad in a Danish newspaper.
Which is _so_ much different from clininc bombings, assassination of
doctors,
So you're saying that Christians have killed maybe 10 people in the name
of religion in the last decade.
And then there's the 100,000+ killed in Iraq.
A figure completely fabricated, and totally unsubstantiable.
You're a liar.
and the screeching outrage over Christmas.
Christians don't riot and torch embassies over Christmas or cartoons in
newspapers.
They go to war over lies.
Ah, yes - it was CHRISTIANS that started the war against terror,
Bush claims to be a Christian, moron, and Iraq had NOTHING to do with
any "War on Terror".
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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06 Feb 2006 04:02:46 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:43e6f530$0$58076$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
James Calivar <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
like stuck pigs over the publishing of 12 cartoons of the prophet
Mohammad in a Danish newspaper.
Which is _so_ much different from clininc bombings, assassination of
doctors,
So you're saying that Christians have killed maybe 10 people in the
name of religion in the last decade.
And then there's the 100,000+ killed in Iraq.
A figure completely fabricated, and totally unsubstantiable.
You're a liar.
and the screeching outrage over Christmas.
Christians don't riot and torch embassies over Christmas or cartoons
in newspapers.
They go to war over lies.
Ah, yes - it was CHRISTIANS that started the war against terror,
Bush claims to be a Christian,
So does Bill Clinton and every other American president but I don't say
that they did certain things because they claimed to be Christians or in
the name of their religion. I don't claim that Clinton bombed Iraq or
Kosovo in the name of Christianity.
However, Muslim terrorists do claim that they are killing in the name of
Islam.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Sensitivies of Jizlam |
06 Feb 2006 04:26:58 PM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:43e6f530$0$58076$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
James Calivar <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
like stuck pigs over the publishing of 12 cartoons of the prophet
Mohammad in a Danish newspaper.
Which is _so_ much different from clininc bombings, assassination of
doctors,
So you're saying that Christians have killed maybe 10 people in the
name of religion in the last decade.
And then there's the 100,000+ killed in Iraq.
A figure completely fabricated, and totally unsubstantiable.
You're a liar.
and the screeching outrage over Christmas.
Christians don't riot and torch embassies over Christmas or cartoons
in newspapers.
They go to war over lies.
Ah, yes - it was CHRISTIANS that started the war against terror,
Bush claims to be a Christian,
So does Bill Clinton and every other American president but I don't say
that they did certain things because they claimed to be Christians or in
the name of their religion.
But you're willing to same that about Muslims you know nothing about.
Because you're a bigot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Anarchist" |
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07 Feb 2006 08:51:25 PM |
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But you're willing to same that about Muslims you know nothing about.
YOUR PUTTING WORDS IN HIS MOUTH T HAT HE NEVER SAID
YOU MISQUOTED HIM
Point is, all those recent acts of terrorism, last 15 years, have been by
people who claimed it is their religion that motivated them to do their
acts. THAT DOES NOT MEAN ANY OF US ARE SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT MUSLIMS WHO
COMMIT NO ACTS OF TERRORISM. On that I have nothing to say - and why should
I - they have done nothing wrong.
So don't dare accuse of bigotry. I personally have 1 very good friend at
work that is a Muslim - Pakistan origin - married with several children, all
young. He knows that I am not bigotted.
Because you're a bigot.
Yeah, right on.
Persist in intentionally misunderstanding what others say.
Anarchist
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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06 Feb 2006 03:59:46 PM |
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James Calivar <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:tFBFf.13102$vU2.10777@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
like stuck pigs over the publishing of 12 cartoons of the prophet
Mohammad in a Danish newspaper.
Which is _so_ much different from clininc bombings, assassination of
doctors,
So you're saying that Christians have killed maybe 10 people in the
name of religion in the last decade.
And then there's the 100,000+ killed in Iraq.
A figure completely fabricated, and totally unsubstantiable. Try again,
leftie.
and the screeching outrage over Christmas.
Christians don't riot and torch embassies over Christmas or cartoons in
newspapers.
They go to war over lies.
Ah, yes - it was CHRISTIANS that started the war against terror,
Yeah, to keep the Muslims terrorists in line. Notice that Americans didn't
start blowing up Muslims because Osama drew a cartoon about Jesus.
wasn't
it? It certainly had NOTHING to do with Islam.
It had everything to do with Islam.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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06 Feb 2006 04:28:28 PM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
James Calivar <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:tFBFf.13102$vU2.10777@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
like stuck pigs over the publishing of 12 cartoons of the prophet
Mohammad in a Danish newspaper.
Which is _so_ much different from clininc bombings, assassination of
doctors,
So you're saying that Christians have killed maybe 10 people in the
name of religion in the last decade.
And then there's the 100,000+ killed in Iraq.
A figure completely fabricated, and totally unsubstantiable. Try again,
leftie.
and the screeching outrage over Christmas.
Christians don't riot and torch embassies over Christmas or cartoons in
newspapers.
They go to war over lies.
Ah, yes - it was CHRISTIANS that started the war against terror,
Yeah, to keep the Muslims terrorists in line.
And 100,000 innocent people, mostly Muslims, died as a result.
So who's worse: A fanatic who kills 3000 people because an enemy
supports an oppressive dictatorship in his country, or the fanatics
who kill 100,000 innocent people in response?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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08 Feb 2006 06:59:43 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:43e7cd8c$0$58058$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
James Calivar <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:tFBFf.13102$vU2.10777@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
like stuck pigs over the publishing of 12 cartoons of the prophet
Mohammad in a Danish newspaper.
Which is _so_ much different from clininc bombings, assassination of
doctors,
So you're saying that Christians have killed maybe 10 people in the
name of religion in the last decade.
And then there's the 100,000+ killed in Iraq.
A figure completely fabricated, and totally unsubstantiable. Try
again, leftie.
and the screeching outrage over Christmas.
Christians don't riot and torch embassies over Christmas or cartoons
in newspapers.
They go to war over lies.
Ah, yes - it was CHRISTIANS that started the war against terror,
Yeah, to keep the Muslims terrorists in line.
And 100,000 innocent people, mostly Muslims, died as a result.
So who's worse: A fanatic who kills 3000 people because an enemy
supports an oppressive dictatorship in his country, or the fanatics
who kill 100,000 innocent people in response?
Both. But I'm not talking about Bush here. And the 100,000 figure is
dubious at best.
The fact is that it's not typical behavior of the present day Christian to
strap a bomb to himself and blow up people he doesn't know. For the Muslims
the extremism is becoming more routine.
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| User: "SleepyHeed" |
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08 Feb 2006 07:24:25 AM |
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The fact is that it's not typical behavior of the present day Christian to
strap a bomb to himself and blow up people he doesn't know.
No, he'd rather tout his religious text as the literal truth and try
and force others to believe it. Oh sure it's not violent, but is
insidious - and that's much worse.
For the Muslims the extremism is becoming more routine.
Ah yes. All Muslims are extremists. All of them! Not just the loonies
the TV happens to show because our reporters and/or news-networks are
too lazy or stupid to go get some rational viewpoints from informed
believers.
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Sensitivies of Jizlam |
08 Feb 2006 08:43:54 AM |
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"SleepyHeed" <simonharpham@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
news:1139405065.445686.196740@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
The fact is that it's not typical behavior of the present day Christian
to strap a bomb to himself and blow up people he doesn't know.
No, he'd rather tout his religious text as the literal truth and try
and force others to believe it.
When has Bush ever forced you to believe anything?
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| User: "Otto Bahn" |
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08 Feb 2006 11:45:32 AM |
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"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote
The fact is that it's not typical behavior of the present day Christian
to strap a bomb to himself and blow up people he doesn't know.
Why kill yourself when you have smrat bombs?
No, he'd rather tout his religious text as the literal truth and try
and force others to believe it.
When has Bush ever forced you to believe anything?
I believe if you proscribe medical marijuana in California
the feds will be all over you.
--oTTo--
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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08 Feb 2006 05:59:15 PM |
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"Otto Bahn" <GoAheadKissMyAss@Blew.Devels.com> wrote in
news:dsd9us$k8h$1@gargoyle.oit.duke.edu:
"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote
The fact is that it's not typical behavior of the present day
Christian to strap a bomb to himself and blow up people he doesn't
know.
Why kill yourself when you have smrat bombs?
No, he'd rather tout his religious text as the literal truth and try
and force others to believe it.
When has Bush ever forced you to believe anything?
I believe if you proscribe medical marijuana in California
the feds will be all over you.
And what does this have to do with Bush forcing you to believe something?
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| User: "Otto Bahn" |
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10 Feb 2006 03:26:51 PM |
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"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote
The fact is that it's not typical behavior of the present day
Christian to strap a bomb to himself and blow up people he doesn't
know.
Why kill yourself when you have smrat bombs?
No, he'd rather tout his religious text as the literal truth and try
and force others to believe it.
When has Bush ever forced you to believe anything?
I believe if you proscribe medical marijuana in California
the feds will be all over you.
And what does this have to do with Bush forcing you to believe something?
I'll give you three guesses, and two of them count.
--oTTo--
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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08 Feb 2006 12:00:37 PM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
"SleepyHeed" <simonharpham@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
news:1139405065.445686.196740@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
The fact is that it's not typical behavior of the present day Christian
to strap a bomb to himself and blow up people he doesn't know.
No, he'd rather tout his religious text as the literal truth and try
and force others to believe it.
When has Bush ever forced you to believe anything?
Embryonic stem cell research.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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08 Feb 2006 05:58:52 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:43ea31c5$0$58064$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
"SleepyHeed" <simonharpham@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
news:1139405065.445686.196740@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
The fact is that it's not typical behavior of the present day
Christian to strap a bomb to himself and blow up people he doesn't
know.
No, he'd rather tout his religious text as the literal truth and try
and force others to believe it.
When has Bush ever forced you to believe anything?
Embryonic stem cell research.
So what has he forced you to believe?
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| User: "Rose Marie Holt" |
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12 Feb 2006 05:52:56 AM |
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In article <43ea85bc$0$44536$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:43ea31c5$0$58064$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
"SleepyHeed" <simonharpham@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
news:1139405065.445686.196740@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
The fact is that it's not typical behavior of the present day
Christian to strap a bomb to himself and blow up people he doesn't
know.
No, he'd rather tout his religious text as the literal truth and try
and force others to believe it.
When has Bush ever forced you to believe anything?
Embryonic stem cell research.
So what has he forced you to believe?
That as a taxpayer I am complicit in the criminal behaviors of a corrupt
and stupid government. And that Diebold stole the election. And that
ANYONE can become president (left out "grow up") on purpose. And that
Reagan wasnt so bad.
Horrifying.
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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13 Feb 2006 04:04:59 PM |
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Rose Marie Holt <rmholt1@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:rmholt1-5DAC34.04525812022006@news.west.earthlink.net:
In article <43ea85bc$0$44536$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:43ea31c5$0$58064$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
"SleepyHeed" <simonharpham@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
news:1139405065.445686.196740@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
The fact is that it's not typical behavior of the present day
Christian to strap a bomb to himself and blow up people he doesn't
know.
No, he'd rather tout his religious text as the literal truth and try
and force others to believe it.
When has Bush ever forced you to believe anything?
Embryonic stem cell research.
So what has he forced you to believe?
That as a taxpayer I am complicit in the criminal behaviors of a corrupt
and stupid government. And that Diebold stole the election. And that
ANYONE can become president (left out "grow up") on purpose. And that
Reagan wasnt so bad.
When did he force you to believe any of that?
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| User: "Otto Bahn" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Sensitivies of Jizlam |
14 Feb 2006 09:57:46 AM |
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"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote
So what has he forced you to believe?
That as a taxpayer I am complicit in the criminal behaviors of a corrupt
and stupid government. And that Diebold stole the election. And that
ANYONE can become president (left out "grow up") on purpose. And that
Reagan wasnt so bad.
When did he force you to believe any of that?
He didn't. Instead, he trolled her mercilessly.
There's only two things that flop liek a fish.
And one of 'em's fish.
--oTTo--
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Sensitivies of Jizlam |
08 Feb 2006 11:59:47 AM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:43e7cd8c$0$58058$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
James Calivar <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:tFBFf.13102$vU2.10777@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
like stuck pigs over the publishing of 12 cartoons of the prophet
Mohammad in a Danish newspaper.
Which is _so_ much different from clininc bombings, assassination of
doctors,
So you're saying that Christians have killed maybe 10 people in the
name of religion in the last decade.
And then there's the 100,000+ killed in Iraq.
A figure completely fabricated, and totally unsubstantiable. Try
again, leftie.
and the screeching outrage over Christmas.
Christians don't riot and torch embassies over Christmas or cartoons
in newspapers.
They go to war over lies.
Ah, yes - it was CHRISTIANS that started the war against terror,
Yeah, to keep the Muslims terrorists in line.
And 100,000 innocent people, mostly Muslims, died as a result.
So who's worse: A fanatic who kills 3000 people because an enemy
supports an oppressive dictatorship in his country, or the fanatics
who kill 100,000 innocent people in response?
Both.
So killing 3000 people is as bad as killing 100,000 people.
But I'm not talking about Bush here.
Of course not. You care more aboout fiinding justification to hate
Muslims.
And the 100,000 figure is
dubious at best.
It's probably closer to 120,000.
The fact is that it's not typical behavior of the present day Christian to
strap a bomb to himself and blow up people he doesn't know.
It's more typical for him to kill people from the safety of a jet at
10,000 feet.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Sensitivies of Jizlam |
08 Feb 2006 06:01:04 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
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It's more typical for him to kill people from the safety of a jet at
10,000 feet.
Why should anyone want to give their enemies a fair chance?
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| User: "Otto Bahn" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Sensitivies of Jizlam |
10 Feb 2006 03:27:35 PM |
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"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote
It's more typical for him to kill people from the safety of a jet at
10,000 feet.
Why should anyone want to give their enemies a fair chance?
I guess sportsmanship is lost on you. Kids these days...
--oTTo--
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Sensitivies of Jizlam |
10 Feb 2006 05:19:39 PM |
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"Otto Bahn" <GoAheadKissMyAss@Blew.Devels.com> wrote in
news:dsivmt$qt8$1@gargoyle.oit.duke.edu:
"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote
It's more typical for him to kill people from the safety of a jet at
10,000 feet.
Why should anyone want to give their enemies a fair chance?
I guess sportsmanship is lost on you. Kids these days...
War isn't a game.
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| User: "Otto Bahn" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Sensitivies of Jizlam |
10 Feb 2006 05:28:22 PM |
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"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote
It's more typical for him to troll people from the safety of a desk at
10,000 feet.
Why should anyone want to give their enemies a fair chance?
I guess sportsmanship is lost on you. Kids these days...
War isn't a game.
I'll be the judge of what's a game and what's fair.
--oTTo--
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| User: "Chris Lansdell Founder and Sole Member of the Nation of Salivation" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Sensitivies of Jizlam |
10 Feb 2006 06:17:59 PM |
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Deuteros , your post to rec.sport.pro-wrestling is almost better than a
suggestion to SIGN CARL ENGLISH!
"Otto Bahn" <GoAheadKissMyAss@Blew.Devels.com> wrote in
news:dsivmt$qt8$1@gargoyle.oit.duke.edu:
"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote
It's more typical for him to kill people from the safety of a jet at
10,000 feet.
Why should anyone want to give their enemies a fair chance?
I guess sportsmanship is lost on you. Kids these days...
War isn't a game.
Except in that one movie.
And that one video game.
And that one episode of Star Trek: TNG
Do you honestly think these so-called "wars", like the "war" on terror are
anything other than elaborate ploys by the ruling junta of the day to
garner support from the gullible, "freedom"-happy, general public? War is a
big game, my friend, and we're all just spectators. Some of us are even
fans.
--
"The Lansdellicious One" Chris Lansdell
Founder of the Nation of Salivation
Mmmmmm Reese Witherspoon :-0~~
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