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"dapra" |
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05 Dec 2007 03:57:49 PM |
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Renewable energy bill. |
It looks like it is about to pass by the House. It's quite a surprise,
that the wholly owned subsidiary of the Corporate Oligarchy, the
Congress would be allowed to do that. The Oligarchy may count on the
Senate to derail it, or Bush to veto it.
It would be a historic moment, if it passes. It not only reduces the
power of the oil, gas and coal industry, but it would undermine the
central control of the energy generation by the plutocracy. And of
course undermine the utopia of One World under God and the under the
Corporate Oligarchy, designated by God to rule humanity.
No more fighting for oil? No aggressive wars to take over countries? No
military industrial complex? No self respecting imperialist, the
Congress is full of them, could stand for it.
Dreaming of new energy policy? I think so. No way any law can be passed
for the people, till the two oil soaked war criminals occupy the top
posts in the White House.
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| User: "Starkiller©" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
05 Dec 2007 04:06:34 PM |
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On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:57:49 -0500, dapra <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
It looks like it is about to pass by the House. It's quite a surprise,
that the wholly owned subsidiary of the Corporate Oligarchy, the
Congress would be allowed to do that. The Oligarchy may count on the
Senate to derail it, or Bush to veto it.
It would be a historic moment, if it passes. It not only reduces the
power of the oil, gas and coal industry, but it would undermine the
central control of the energy generation by the plutocracy. And of
course undermine the utopia of One World under God and the under the
Corporate Oligarchy, designated by God to rule humanity.
No more fighting for oil? No aggressive wars to take over countries? No
military industrial complex? No self respecting imperialist, the
Congress is full of them, could stand for it.
Dreaming of new energy policy? I think so. No way any law can be passed
for the people, till the two oil soaked war criminals occupy the top
posts in the White House.
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- In a move that may complicate efforts to
pass wide-ranging energy legislation, congressional Democrats added
around $21 billion in tax incentives over the next decade that are
offset by eliminating breaks and raising levies on the nation's
largest oil producers.
The House is set to vote on the package as early as Wednesday. The tax
provisions include a long-term extension of tax credits for renewable
electricity, as well as credits for carbon-capture and sequestration
demonstration products; credits for biofuel production, including
cellulosic ethanol; tax-credit bonds for renewable energy measures and
the extension of other incentives.
"By creating and expanding incentives for the use and production of
renewable energy and conservation, we help break our dependence on
foreign oil and promote America's energy independence," said House
Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., in a
statement.
The bill also includes controversial provisions requiring utilities to
use more renewable energy. The measures were added to a broad energy
package that includes a compromise struck last week to boost corporate
average fuel economy standards.
Republicans said the added measures wrecked a potential compromise,
ensuring the bill won't clear the Senate.
House Democrats "take a bill that has the potential to attract
bipartisan support, they execute a massive overreach that far
outstrips that support, and then - when they've alienated just about
every one of their moderates - they ram the legislation through the
House and declare victory as if it had even the slightest chance of
becoming law," said House Minority Whip Roy Blunt of Missouri, the No.
2 Republican in the House leadership.
In order to keep the measure revenue-neutral, the bill raises around
$13 billion over 10 years by repealing the domestic manufacturing
incentive for the top five integrated producers while freezing the
deduction at 6% for all others in the sector.
The Senate earlier this year fell two votes short of the 60-vote
supermajority needed to overcome a roadblock to voting on a larger tax
package approved by the Senate Finance Committee.
"I am sure the Senate will have a robust debate on some provisions of
this important legislation, but I expect that we will all work
together to see it passed," Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max
Baucus, D-Mont., said in a statement.
http://tinyurl.com/33txlt
Regards
Starkiller©
"Eta Kooram Nah Smech!"
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| User: "dapra" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
05 Dec 2007 04:47:08 PM |
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Starkiller© wrote:
On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:57:49 -0500, dapra <dapra1@comcast.net> wrote:
It looks like it is about to pass by the House. It's quite a surprise,
that the wholly owned subsidiary of the Corporate Oligarchy, the
Congress would be allowed to do that. The Oligarchy may count on the
Senate to derail it, or Bush to veto it.
It would be a historic moment, if it passes. It not only reduces the
power of the oil, gas and coal industry, but it would undermine the
central control of the energy generation by the plutocracy. And of
course undermine the utopia of One World under God and the under the
Corporate Oligarchy, designated by God to rule humanity.
No more fighting for oil? No aggressive wars to take over countries? No
military industrial complex? No self respecting imperialist, the
Congress is full of them, could stand for it.
Dreaming of new energy policy? I think so. No way any law can be passed
for the people, till the two oil soaked war criminals occupy the top
posts in the White House.
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- In a move that may complicate efforts to
pass wide-ranging energy legislation, congressional Democrats added
around $21 billion in tax incentives over the next decade that are
offset by eliminating breaks and raising levies on the nation's
largest oil producers.
I think, I over dramatized the change the energy bill can bring. $21
billion? That's about 3% Bush has already spent on his utopia of ruling
the World. But of course the Republicans, and some Democrats too, love
to spend $600 billions on war. It's double fan. Enrich their cronies,
bankrupt the US government. That's to be 'patriotic' the Republican way.
The House is set to vote on the package as early as Wednesday. The tax
provisions include a long-term extension of tax credits for renewable
electricity, as well as credits for carbon-capture and sequestration
demonstration products; credits for biofuel production, including
cellulosic ethanol; tax-credit bonds for renewable energy measures and
the extension of other incentives.
"By creating and expanding incentives for the use and production of
renewable energy and conservation, we help break our dependence on
foreign oil and promote America's energy independence," said House
Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., in a
statement.
The bill also includes controversial provisions requiring utilities to
use more renewable energy. The measures were added to a broad energy
package that includes a compromise struck last week to boost corporate
average fuel economy standards.
Republicans said the added measures wrecked a potential compromise,
ensuring the bill won't clear the Senate.
House Democrats "take a bill that has the potential to attract
bipartisan support, they execute a massive overreach that far
outstrips that support, and then - when they've alienated just about
every one of their moderates - they ram the legislation through the
House and declare victory as if it had even the slightest chance of
becoming law," said House Minority Whip Roy Blunt of Missouri, the No.
2 Republican in the House leadership.
In order to keep the measure revenue-neutral, the bill raises around
$13 billion over 10 years by repealing the domestic manufacturing
incentive for the top five integrated producers while freezing the
deduction at 6% for all others in the sector.
The Senate earlier this year fell two votes short of the 60-vote
supermajority needed to overcome a roadblock to voting on a larger tax
package approved by the Senate Finance Committee.
"I am sure the Senate will have a robust debate on some provisions of
this important legislation, but I expect that we will all work
together to see it passed," Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max
Baucus, D-Mont., said in a statement.
http://tinyurl.com/33txlt
Regards
Starkiller©
"Eta Kooram Nah Smech!"
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
05 Dec 2007 10:19:53 PM |
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dapra wrote:
(raving madness sniped)
someone should wrap a bunch of copper wire around you.....
with all the spinning you do, they could generate a ***** pot of electricity.
redc1c4,
(and your hot air is a major cause of global warming. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "dapra" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
05 Dec 2007 11:10:15 PM |
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redc1c4 wrote:
dapra wrote:
(raving madness sniped)
someone should wrap a bunch of copper wire around you.....
with all the spinning you do, they could generate a ***** pot of electricity.
It's nice, that you recognize my magnetic personality. Your foul
language were expected, your knowledge of elementary physics were not.
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
06 Dec 2007 12:43:58 AM |
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dapra wrote:
redc1c4 wrote:
dapra wrote:
(raving madness sniped)
someone should wrap a bunch of copper wire around you.....
with all the spinning you do, they could generate a ***** pot of electricity.
It's nice, that you recognize my magnetic personality. Your foul
language were expected, your knowledge of elementary physics were not.
it's not your imaginary personality, but simply the obvious denseness of your
intellect that makes you a good potential rotor.
redc1c4,
if you ever had an original thought, it would die of loneliness. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "dapra" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
07 Dec 2007 12:40:20 PM |
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redc1c4 wrote:
dapra wrote:
redc1c4 wrote:
dapra wrote:
(raving madness sniped)
someone should wrap a bunch of copper wire around you.....
with all the spinning you do, they could generate a ***** pot of electricity.
It's nice, that you recognize my magnetic personality. Your foul
language were expected, your knowledge of elementary physics were not.
it's not your imaginary personality, but simply the obvious denseness of your
intellect that makes you a good potential rotor.
It needs a magnetic field change to induce electricity. The rotor must
be an electro- or permanent magnet, hence the 'magnetic' personality.
Too many recoils from your high powered guns must have done a job on
your brain.
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| User: "tankfixer" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
07 Dec 2007 08:43:41 PM |
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In article <r5ydnTj4Rtc_DsTanZ2dnUVZ_t6onZ2d@comcast.com>, dapra1
@comcast.net says...
redc1c4 wrote:
dapra wrote:
redc1c4 wrote:
dapra wrote:
(raving madness sniped)
someone should wrap a bunch of copper wire around you.....
with all the spinning you do, they could generate a ***** pot of electricity.
It's nice, that you recognize my magnetic personality. Your foul
language were expected, your knowledge of elementary physics were not.
it's not your imaginary personality, but simply the obvious denseness of your
intellect that makes you a good potential rotor.
It needs a magnetic field change to induce electricity. The rotor must
be an electro- or permanent magnet, hence the 'magnetic' personality.
Umm, no.
You have it backwards
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| User: "dapra" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
07 Dec 2007 09:48:03 PM |
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tankfixer wrote:
In article <r5ydnTj4Rtc_DsTanZ2dnUVZ_t6onZ2d@comcast.com>, dapra1
@comcast.net says...
redc1c4 wrote:
dapra wrote:
redc1c4 wrote:
dapra wrote:
(raving madness sniped)
someone should wrap a bunch of copper wire around you.....
with all the spinning you do, they could generate a ***** pot of electricity.
It's nice, that you recognize my magnetic personality. Your foul
language were expected, your knowledge of elementary physics were not.
it's not your imaginary personality, but simply the obvious denseness of your
intellect that makes you a good potential rotor.
It needs a magnetic field change to induce electricity. The rotor must
be an electro- or permanent magnet, hence the 'magnetic' personality.
Umm, no.
You have it backwards
Why? Of course the magnet can be located in the stator and the coils in
the rotor. But redc1c4 missed the polite reference of 'magnetic'
personality, it must have gone over his head.
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
08 Dec 2007 03:31:49 AM |
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dapra wrote:
tankfixer wrote:
In article <r5ydnTj4Rtc_DsTanZ2dnUVZ_t6onZ2d@comcast.com>, dapra1
@comcast.net says...
redc1c4 wrote:
dapra wrote:
redc1c4 wrote:
dapra wrote:
(raving madness sniped)
someone should wrap a bunch of copper wire around you.....
with all the spinning you do, they could generate a ***** pot of electricity.
It's nice, that you recognize my magnetic personality. Your foul
language were expected, your knowledge of elementary physics were not.
it's not your imaginary personality, but simply the obvious denseness of your
intellect that makes you a good potential rotor.
It needs a magnetic field change to induce electricity. The rotor must
be an electro- or permanent magnet, hence the 'magnetic' personality.
Umm, no.
You have it backwards
Why? Of course the magnet can be located in the stator and the coils in
the rotor. But redc1c4 missed the polite reference of 'magnetic'
personality, it must have gone over his head.
the word "potential" obviously escaped you, as did the word "imaginary".
redc1c4,
the only operative term i used in reference to you was "denseness". %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
08 Dec 2007 03:27:08 AM |
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dapra wrote:
redc1c4 wrote:
dapra wrote:
redc1c4 wrote:
dapra wrote:
(raving madness sniped)
someone should wrap a bunch of copper wire around you.....
with all the spinning you do, they could generate a ***** pot of electricity.
It's nice, that you recognize my magnetic personality. Your foul
language were expected, your knowledge of elementary physics were not.
it's not your imaginary personality, but simply the obvious denseness of your
intellect that makes you a good potential rotor.
It needs a magnetic field change to induce electricity. The rotor must
be an electro- or permanent magnet, hence the 'magnetic' personality.
Too many recoils from your high powered guns must have done a job on
your brain.
you're just jealous i *have* a brain to begin with......
redc1c4,
they ran your mom through the degaussing dock while you were being whelped.
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "Governor Swill" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
08 Dec 2007 01:04:17 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 01:27:08 -0800, redc1c4
<redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
you're just jealous i *have* a brain to begin with......
redc1c4,
they ran your mom through the degaussing dock while you were being whelped.
I guess that's better than sticking her in a box in the closet. You
still in that closet?
Swill
--
Money isn't always dollars, but dollars are always money.
Picture of the day
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
09 Dec 2007 01:44:33 AM |
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Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 01:27:08 -0800, redc1c4
<redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
you're just jealous i *have* a brain to begin with......
redc1c4,
they ran your mom through the degaussing dock while you were being whelped.
I guess that's better than sticking her in a box in the closet. You
still in that closet?
i never go near your space.
redc1c4,
the closet is all yours, just like you asked it to be. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "Governor Swill" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
09 Dec 2007 12:14:52 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:44:33 -0800, redc1c4
<redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
I guess that's better than sticking her in a box in the closet. You
still in that closet?
i never go near your space.
redc1c4,
the closet is all yours, just like you asked it to be. %-)
Dude, I've been out of the closet since High School. C'mon out. It's
not so bad.
Swill
--
Money isn't always dollars, but dollars are always money.
Picture of the day
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
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| User: "Daniel Bergman" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
07 Dec 2007 01:17:22 AM |
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redc1c4 wrote:
dapra wrote:
redc1c4 wrote:
dapra wrote:
(raving madness sniped)
someone should wrap a bunch of copper wire around you.....
with all the spinning you do, they could generate a ***** pot of electricity.
It's nice, that you recognize my magnetic personality. Your foul
language were expected, your knowledge of elementary physics were not.
it's not your imaginary personality, but simply the obvious denseness of your
intellect that makes you a good potential rotor.
redc1c4,
if you ever had an original thought, it would die of loneliness. %-)
ROFLMAO
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| User: "Daniel Bergman" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
07 Dec 2007 01:14:59 AM |
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dapra wrote:
It looks like it is about to pass by the House. It's quite a surprise,
that the wholly owned subsidiary of the Corporate Oligarchy, the
Congress would be allowed to do that. The Oligarchy may count on the
Senate to derail it, or Bush to veto it.
It would be a historic moment, if it passes. It not only reduces the
power of the oil, gas and coal industry, but it would undermine the
central control of the energy generation by the plutocracy. And of
course undermine the utopia of One World under God and the under the
Corporate Oligarchy, designated by God to rule humanity.
No more fighting for oil? No aggressive wars to take over countries? No
military industrial complex? No self respecting imperialist, the
Congress is full of them, could stand for it.
Dreaming of new energy policy? I think so. No way any law can be passed
for the people, till the two oil soaked war criminals occupy the top
posts in the White House.
These fuckin idiots are digging a hole so deep for this country
energy-wise that we will never be able to get out of it except by war
and taking our energy needs from other countries by force. Instead of
opening up more land for drilling and encouraging our oil companies to
drill and produce enough energy to meet our needs and bring the price
down, the penalize them and divert more of our food source to energy.
Furthermore, these pie in the sky solutions like forcing higher fuel
mileage vehicles on us, making the roads much more dangerous, and
thinking wind generation is going to power our industrial growth just
proves how incompetent these moon-bat liberals really are.
There is not one thing in this bill that will increase supplies of
energy and reduce cost.
Talk about stupid!
And whoever wrote this post, your an idiot.
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| User: "dapra" |
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| Title: Re: Renewable energy bill. |
07 Dec 2007 12:34:51 PM |
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Daniel Bergman wrote:
dapra wrote:
It looks like it is about to pass by the House. It's quite a surprise,
that the wholly owned subsidiary of the Corporate Oligarchy, the
Congress would be allowed to do that. The Oligarchy may count on the
Senate to derail it, or Bush to veto it.
It would be a historic moment, if it passes. It not only reduces the
power of the oil, gas and coal industry, but it would undermine the
central control of the energy generation by the plutocracy. And of
course undermine the utopia of One World under God and the under the
Corporate Oligarchy, designated by God to rule humanity.
No more fighting for oil? No aggressive wars to take over countries?
No military industrial complex? No self respecting imperialist, the
Congress is full of them, could stand for it.
Dreaming of new energy policy? I think so. No way any law can be
passed for the people, till the two oil soaked war criminals occupy
the top posts in the White House.
These fuckin idiots are digging a hole so deep for this country
energy-wise that we will never be able to get out of it except by war
and taking our energy needs from other countries by force.
Have you slept Rip van Winkle in the last 4 1/2 years? Bush's oil war is
going on that long already. Of course we did not get more oil, but
Bush's actions managed to quadruple the price of it. The consumers pay
more, the oil oligarchy profits more. Mission accomplished!
Instead of
opening up more land for drilling and encouraging our oil companies to
drill and produce enough energy to meet our needs and bring the price
down, the penalize them and divert more of our food source to energy.
"Opening up more land for drilling?" God forbid, to leave a drop of oil
for our grandchildren, hmmm... ? You are a greedy s.o.b. The future is
renewable energy. But greedy ones like you care only about the 'money in
your pocket'. While some people consider their actions how it will
affect seven generation in the future, our captains of the industry care
only about the quarterly report. Your horizon is probably even shorter.
Furthermore, these pie in the sky solutions like forcing higher fuel
mileage vehicles on us, making the roads much more dangerous, and
thinking wind generation is going to power our industrial growth just
proves how incompetent these moon-bat liberals really are.
If your 'saint' Reagan didn't rip off the solar cells from the White
House in 1981, sending a signal, renewable energy would supply large
part of our energy needs.
There is not one thing in this bill that will increase supplies of
energy and reduce cost.
There is or not, is insignificant. The oil money soaked war criminal in
the WH will veto it.
Talk about stupid!
And whoever wrote this post, your an idiot.
Stupidity, and immorality characterizes the author of the reply.
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