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On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:57:11 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
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http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/2005/09/news-magazine-of-

mysteries-

2.html

The News Magazine of the Mysteries 2

Hat tip commenter Taumarunui. Excerpts from a television interview
with Michael Ware provide an excellent background to his Time article,
Chasing the Ghosts in which he depicted what he saw as the futility
and apparent failure of the Tal-Afar operation; and indeed, of the
whole war. The interview was on ABC Television (in Australia). The
interviewer is Tony Jones on January 2004 (Hat tip: Cosmo)Erratum. The
Michael Ware interview is actually dated July 2004. The Australian way
of writing dates is day/month/year.

TONY JONES: Michael, why are they letting you get behind this
curtain? Is there a message they are wanting you to get out through
Time magazine to the rest of the world?

MICHAEL WARE: Clearly, these men, just like the American military
I
deal with and the public affairs officers who stick to me like glue
and only let me see what they want me to see when I'm with them, so it
is with the Jihadis. They're showing me what they want me to see,
which is, to be truthful, quite a lot, but they know anything I see or
hear is public record. It's their responsibility to confine their
information.

This is what I do. Yeah, they do want to get a message out.

They're so media savvy. If they weren't before, they've learnt it,
they've polished it.

Even a year ago when I was meeting these nationalist guerrillas
who
then were ill formed, not yet in clear command and control
organisations, even then they were saying to me, "This war is not
going to be won on the battlefield. We can't hope to defeat the
Americans. It's going to be won in the living rooms of Iraq and Middle
America, it's going to be won on television."

They were saying, "We can maintain this, we can, we have, we can
sustain this longer than your political will will last. Before your
people call you home." Again, that's a part of it now, they're saying,
"We're here and we're not going away," and they want to say that to
the West. They can tell Arabic channels this until the cows come home,
but to have it coming through an American iconic publication like Time
magazine, people will listen.

And look, the fact is it's true.

So, truthful statements about how bad things are, are traitorous.

So, do you accept that statement, by the Jihadis, that they cannot win
this without American media playing along with their propaganda?

And
here's this reporter *BRAGGING* about how he's helping them to win their
fight.

In
order to win the war we need the media and our government to lie to
us, to tell us that things are going well when they aren't.

No, Matt, we need them to the *THE WHOLE TRUTH*, not just the Jihadis
propaganda and the count of American casualties.

So, I
assume, your sources that say things are going well (not to mention
administration officials who told us, repeatedly, it was almost over)
they are lying to us.

And so you believe everything the Jihadis say, unquestioningly.

But for our own good. So we should believe them.
That explains a lot.

So, let me get this straight, since the Jihadis are putting *their*
propaganda out through American media like Time,

that automatically
implies that they're going to win, and therefore everything that
American sources say about how well thing are going are lies?

And you *approve* of the way the American media give unfiltered airtime
to enemy propaganda?