Religions > Atheism > Republican Christian extremist FOX "News" bags another Jew
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"George Washington Hayduke" |
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07 Dec 2004 07:58:56 PM |
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Republican Christian extremist FOX "News" bags another Jew |
Republican Christian extremist FOX "News" bags another Jew
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http://mediamatters.org/items/200412070004
CALLER: I agree with what you've been saying recently -- you're
concerned about the secularization of Christmas and -- I'm
concerned about the secularization of Jews and about the --
and Christmas going into schools.
When I was growing up -- I'm Jewish, but I was not in a very
Jewish area. There were some Jews there but, I was kind of --
grew up with a resentment because I felt that people were
trying to convert me to Christianity --
O'REILLY: Were they?
CALLER: Yeah, when I got to college I found out -- that's true.
A lot of people were. I found that millions of dollars were
spent trying to convert --
O'REILLY: I mean that you really believe that people were trying
to convert -- you personally -- were trying to make you change
from being Jewish to Christian?
CALLER: Absolutely.
O'REILLY: How do they do that?
CALLER: Well, for example, there are various organizations in
the colleges that go to people -- try to invite you to Bible
study groups --
O'REILLY: Yeah, I know, but -- I mean, you don't have to go. I
mean they do that to me. They come -- the Jehovah's Witnesses
come to my door and invite me places. I mean, I don't care -- I
just say no, get outta here.
CALLER: The thing is, is when you have -- for example, Christmas
carols or gift exchanges being done in school, that kind of sets
the kids up to being converted.
O'REILLY: Yeah, but you give gifts on Hanukkah, don't you?
CALLER: No, there's not really a Jewish tradition of giving
gifts on --
O'REILLY: Well, the seven candles [sic], you get a gift for
every night, don't you?
CALLER: Actually, the Jews give gifts on --
O'REILLY: All right. Well, what I'm tellin' you, [caller], is
I think you're takin' it too seriously. You have a predominantly
Christian nation. You have a federal holiday based on the
philosopher Jesus. And you don't wanna hear about it? Come
on, [caller] -- if you are really offended, you gotta go to
Israel then. I mean because we live in a country founded on
Judeo -- and that's your guys' -- Christian, that's my guys'
philosophy. But overwhelmingly, America is Christian. And the
holiday is a federal holiday honoring the philosopher Jesus.
So, you don't wanna hear about it? Impossible.
And that is an affront to the majority. You know, the majorit
y can be insulted, too. And that's what this anti-Christmas
thing is all about.
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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| Title: Re: Republican Christian extremist FOX "News" bags another Jew |
08 Dec 2004 11:02:13 AM |
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(George Washington Hayduke) writes:
O'REILLY: Well, the seven candles [sic], you get a gift for
every night, don't you?
It never ceases to amaze me how Christians have come to believe
that because Hannukah happens sometime around Christmas, it must be as
important to the Jews as Christmas is to them. Passover is so much more
important, but Christians are ho-hum about it; instead, they've co-opted
the time to lord Easter over everyone.
Elf
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| User: "Andrew Lias" |
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| Title: Re: Republican Christian extremist FOX "News" bags another Jew |
08 Dec 2004 02:49:09 PM |
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Elf M. Sternberg wrote:
sss@hite.org (George Washington Hayduke) writes:
O'REILLY: Well, the seven candles [sic], you get a gift for
every night, don't you?
It never ceases to amaze me how Christians have come to
believe
that because Hannukah happens sometime around Christmas, it must be
as
important to the Jews as Christmas is to them. Passover is so much
more
important, but Christians are ho-hum about it; instead, they've
co-opted
the time to lord Easter over everyone.
In all fairness, Jewish leaders have tended to exaggerate the
importance of Hannukah on the Jewish calendar. For a very long time,
it was such a minor observance that very few Jews even knew about it.
It was dusted off, retrofitted, and given prominence specifically as a
means to provide Jewish children with an alternative to Christmas.
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Andrew Lias
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Republican Christian extremist FOX "News" bags another Jew |
09 Dec 2004 11:17:55 AM |
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Elf M. Sternberg wrote:
sss@hite.org (George Washington Hayduke) writes:
O'REILLY: Well, the seven candles [sic], you get a gift for
every night, don't you?
It never ceases to amaze me how Christians have come to
believe
that because Hannukah happens sometime around Christmas, it must be
as
important to the Jews as Christmas is to them. Passover is so much
more
important, but Christians are ho-hum about it; instead, they've
co-opted
the time to lord Easter over everyone.
In fairness, the United States Jewish community is the one who started
to exaggerate the importance of Hanukah to provide an alternative for
Christmas. Hanukah is a minor jewish holiday elsewhere, as it was
originally in the U.S.: it is not even biblical, so it takes a definite
back seat to the Big Three (the original agricultural-calendar-based
holidays of Passover, Shavuot, and Sukkot), and to the High Holidays
(Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kipput).
The "gift every day" is also an invention of the american Jewish
community, again specifically to make Hanukah a counterpoint to
Christmas. Traditionally, children were given small amounts of money
("Hanukah gelt") which they would use to play Dreidel.
Arturo Magidin, sans .sig
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Republican Christian extremist FOX "News" bags another Jew |
08 Dec 2004 11:20:28 AM |
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On 08 Dec 2004 09:02:13 -0800, "Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com>
wrote:
sss@hite.org (George Washington Hayduke) writes:
O'REILLY: Well, the seven candles [sic], you get a gift for
every night, don't you?
It never ceases to amaze me how Christians have come to believe
that because Hannukah happens sometime around Christmas, it must be as
important to the Jews as Christmas is to them. Passover is so much more
important, but Christians are ho-hum about it; instead, they've co-opted
the time to lord Easter over everyone.
It's their sociopathic Christian-centric view of things at work.
Elf
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