Religions > Atheism > Retired Marine Corp General Calls GOP Traitors, Rightfully so
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"Yang, AthD h.c" |
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17 May 2007 08:33:18 PM |
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Retired Marine Corp General Calls GOP Traitors, Rightfully so |
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-torture-supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates received
audience applause for endorsing torture, former Marine Corps
commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S. CentCom commander Gen.
Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during World War
II; it led to Joseph McCarthy’s witch hunt, which ruined the lives of
hundreds of Americans. And it led the United States to adopt a policy
at the highest levels that condoned and even authorized torture of
prisoners in our custody. […]
The American people are understandably fearful about another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it is the duty
of the commander in chief to lead the country away from the grip of
fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at Tuesday night’s presidential
debate in South Carolina, several Republican candidates revealed a
stunning FAILURE to understand this most basic OBLIGATION . […]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are negotiable in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those undecideds into
the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are well down the
road to it.
--
Yang
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| User: "John D. Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Retired Marine Corp General Calls GOP Traitors, Rightfully so |
17 May 2007 10:35:01 PM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-torture-supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates received
audience applause for endorsing torture, former Marine Corps
commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S. CentCom commander Gen.
Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during World War
II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which ruined the lives of
hundreds of Americans. And it led the United States to adopt a policy
at the highest levels that condoned and even authorized torture of
prisoners in our custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it is the duty
of the commander in chief to lead the country away from the grip of
fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at Tuesday night's presidential
debate in South Carolina, several Republican candidates revealed a
stunning FAILURE to understand this most basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are negotiable in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those undecideds into
the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are well down the
road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to be dishonored.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Retired Marine Corp General Calls GOP Traitors, Rightfully so |
18 May 2007 12:13:40 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-torture-supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates received
audience applause for endorsing torture, former Marine Corps
commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S. CentCom commander Gen.
Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during World War
II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which ruined the lives of
hundreds of Americans. And it led the United States to adopt a policy
at the highest levels that condoned and even authorized torture of
prisoners in our custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it is the duty
of the commander in chief to lead the country away from the grip of
fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at Tuesday night's presidential
debate in South Carolina, several Republican candidates revealed a
stunning FAILURE to understand this most basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are negotiable in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those undecideds into
the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are well down the
road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to be
dishonored.
Don't you mean your right to send someone else to defend you is not to be
dishonored?
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "John D. Wentzky" |
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18 May 2007 12:14:56 AM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-torture-supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates received
audience applause for endorsing torture, former Marine Corps
commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S. CentCom commander Gen.
Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during World War
II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which ruined the lives of
hundreds of Americans. And it led the United States to adopt a policy
at the highest levels that condoned and even authorized torture of
prisoners in our custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it is the duty
of the commander in chief to lead the country away from the grip of
fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at Tuesday night's presidential
debate in South Carolina, several Republican candidates revealed a
stunning FAILURE to understand this most basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are negotiable in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those undecideds into
the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are well down the
road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to be
dishonored.
Don't you mean your right to send someone else to defend you is not to be
dishonored?
Send who where?
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Retired Marine Corp General Calls GOP Traitors, Rightfully so |
18 May 2007 10:53:52 AM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:7f0q43hvrddelhcmtjkrd3msmjc48p0b0n@4ax.com...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-torture-supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates received
audience applause for endorsing torture, former Marine Corps
commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S. CentCom commander Gen.
Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during World War
II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which ruined the lives of
hundreds of Americans. And it led the United States to adopt a policy
at the highest levels that condoned and even authorized torture of
prisoners in our custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it is the duty
of the commander in chief to lead the country away from the grip of
fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at Tuesday night's presidential
debate in South Carolina, several Republican candidates revealed a
stunning FAILURE to understand this most basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are negotiable in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those undecideds into
the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are well down the
road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to be
dishonored.
Don't you mean your right to send someone else to defend you is not to be
dishonored?
Send who where?
Send soldiers Iraq. Fight bad terror people. You safe. But you not fight.
Is that more comprehensible?
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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18 May 2007 01:36:12 PM |
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-
torture-
supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates received
audience applause for endorsing torture, former Marine Corps
commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S. CentCom commander
Gen. Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during World
War II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which ruined the
lives of hundreds of Americans. And it led the United States to
adopt a policy at the highest levels that condoned and even
authorized torture of prisoners in our custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it is the
duty of the commander in chief to lead the country away from the
grip of fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at Tuesday night's
presidential debate in South Carolina, several Republican
candidates revealed a stunning FAILURE to understand this most
basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are negotiable
in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those undecideds
into the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are well
down the road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to be
dishonored.
Don't you mean your right to send someone else to defend you is not
to be dishonored?
Send who where?
Send soldiers Iraq. Fight bad terror people. You safe. But you not
fight.
Is that more comprehensible?
You safe too, Denis. You not fight.
You make bad words about people not fight just like you.
What wrong with you?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic
organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its
enemies."
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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18 May 2007 04:34:35 PM |
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-
torture-
supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates received
audience applause for endorsing torture, former Marine Corps
commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S. CentCom commander
Gen. Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during World
War II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which ruined the
lives of hundreds of Americans. And it led the United States to
adopt a policy at the highest levels that condoned and even
authorized torture of prisoners in our custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it is the
duty of the commander in chief to lead the country away from the
grip of fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at Tuesday night's
presidential debate in South Carolina, several Republican
candidates revealed a stunning FAILURE to understand this most
basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are negotiable
in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those undecideds
into the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are well
down the road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to be
dishonored.
Don't you mean your right to send someone else to defend you is not
to be dishonored?
Send who where?
Send soldiers Iraq. Fight bad terror people. You safe. But you not
fight.
Is that more comprehensible?
You safe too, Denis.
No. Me not safe. No one safe.
You not fight.
Me fight if attacked.
You make bad words about people not fight just like you.
Those people send soldiers to fight. I not do.
What wrong with you?
Me think.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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22 May 2007 05:36:41 AM |
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-
torture-
supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates received
audience applause for endorsing torture, former Marine Corps
commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S. CentCom commander
Gen. Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during World
War II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which ruined the
lives of hundreds of Americans. And it led the United States to
adopt a policy at the highest levels that condoned and even
authorized torture of prisoners in our custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it is
the
duty of the commander in chief to lead the country away from the
grip of fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at Tuesday
night's
presidential debate in South Carolina, several Republican
candidates revealed a stunning FAILURE to understand this most
basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are
negotiable
in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those
undecideds
into the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are
well
down the road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to be
dishonored.
Don't you mean your right to send someone else to defend you is
not
to be dishonored?
Send who where?
Send soldiers Iraq. Fight bad terror people. You safe. But you not
fight.
Is that more comprehensible?
You safe too, Denis.
No. Me not safe. No one safe.
You say I safe, now you say no one safe. Make up mind. You got mind to
make up?
You not fight.
Me fight if attacked.
We was attacked. Why you not want to fight?
You make bad words about people not fight just like you.
Those people send soldiers to fight. I not do.
You safe just like "those people". Why you *****?
What wrong with you?
Me think.
You not think. You emotional.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic
organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its
enemies."
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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22 May 2007 10:43:45 AM |
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-
torture-
supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates received
audience applause for endorsing torture, former Marine Corps
commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S. CentCom commander
Gen. Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during World
War II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which ruined the
lives of hundreds of Americans. And it led the United States to
adopt a policy at the highest levels that condoned and even
authorized torture of prisoners in our custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it is
the
duty of the commander in chief to lead the country away from the
grip of fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at Tuesday
night's
presidential debate in South Carolina, several Republican
candidates revealed a stunning FAILURE to understand this most
basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are
negotiable
in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those
undecideds
into the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are
well
down the road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to be
dishonored.
Don't you mean your right to send someone else to defend you is
not
to be dishonored?
Send who where?
Send soldiers Iraq. Fight bad terror people. You safe. But you not
fight.
Is that more comprehensible?
You safe too, Denis.
No. Me not safe. No one safe.
You say I safe, now you say no one safe. Make up mind. You got mind to
make up?
No one safe. You only think you safe.
You not fight.
Me fight if attacked.
We was attacked. Why you not want to fight?
We not attacked by Iraq. Why we fight Iraq?
You make bad words about people not fight just like you.
Those people send soldiers to fight. I not do.
You safe just like "those people". Why you *****?
Not safe. More not safe.
What wrong with you?
Me think.
You not think. You emotional.
You not think. You preach.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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23 May 2007 06:12:59 AM |
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-
torture-
supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates
received audience applause for endorsing torture, former
Marine Corps commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S.
CentCom commander Gen. Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt
to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during
World War II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which
ruined the lives of hundreds of Americans. And it led the
United States to adopt a policy at the highest levels that
condoned and even authorized torture of prisoners in our
custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about
another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it is
the
duty of the commander in chief to lead the country away from
the grip of fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at Tuesday
night's
presidential debate in South Carolina, several Republican
candidates revealed a stunning FAILURE to understand this most
basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are
negotiable
in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those
undecideds
into the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are
well
down the road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to be
dishonored.
Don't you mean your right to send someone else to defend you is
not
to be dishonored?
Send who where?
Send soldiers Iraq. Fight bad terror people. You safe. But you not
fight.
Is that more comprehensible?
You safe too, Denis.
No. Me not safe. No one safe.
You say I safe, now you say no one safe. Make up mind. You got mind
to make up?
No one safe. You only think you safe.
Why you say safe before? Now you say not safe now? Me think you make
words mean different things.
You not fight.
Me fight if attacked.
We was attacked. Why you not want to fight?
We not attacked by Iraq. Why we fight Iraq?
Iraq part of bigger thing.
You make bad words about people not fight just like you.
Those people send soldiers to fight. I not do.
You safe just like "those people". Why you *****?
Not safe. More not safe.
Why you say not safe?
What wrong with you?
Me think.
You not think. You emotional.
You not think. You preach.
Not preach. Teach. You no learn.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic
organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its
enemies."
--
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-
torture-
supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates
received audience applause for endorsing torture, former
Marine Corps commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S.
CentCom commander Gen. Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt
to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during
World War II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which
ruined the lives of hundreds of Americans. And it led the
United States to adopt a policy at the highest levels that
condoned and even authorized torture of prisoners in our
custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about
another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it is
the
duty of the commander in chief to lead the country away from
the grip of fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at Tuesday
night's
presidential debate in South Carolina, several Republican
candidates revealed a stunning FAILURE to understand this most
basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are
negotiable
in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those
undecideds
into the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are
well
down the road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to be
dishonored.
Don't you mean your right to send someone else to defend you is
not
to be dishonored?
Send who where?
Send soldiers Iraq. Fight bad terror people. You safe. But you not
fight.
Is that more comprehensible?
You safe too, Denis.
No. Me not safe. No one safe.
You say I safe, now you say no one safe. Make up mind. You got mind
to make up?
No one safe. You only think you safe.
Why you say safe before?
Because you think you safe. You dumb?
Now you say not safe now?
Never safe.
Me think you make
words mean different things.
You not get rhetorical technique.
You not fight.
Me fight if attacked.
We was attacked. Why you not want to fight?
We not attacked by Iraq. Why we fight Iraq?
Iraq part of bigger thing.
Not.
You make bad words about people not fight just like you.
Those people send soldiers to fight. I not do.
You safe just like "those people". Why you *****?
Not safe. More not safe.
Why you say not safe?
There are still bad mans. No one safe.
What wrong with you?
Me think.
You not think. You emotional.
You not think. You preach.
Not preach. Teach. You no learn.
Then me not emotional, me rational. You not get.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-
torture-
supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates
received audience applause for endorsing torture, former
Marine Corps commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S.
CentCom commander Gen. Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt
to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during
World War II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which
ruined the lives of hundreds of Americans. And it led the
United States to adopt a policy at the highest levels that
condoned and even authorized torture of prisoners in our
custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about
another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it
is
the
duty of the commander in chief to lead the country away from
the grip of fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at
Tuesday
night's
presidential debate in South Carolina, several Republican
candidates revealed a stunning FAILURE to understand this
most basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are
negotiable
in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those
undecideds
into the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are
well
down the road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to
be dishonored.
Don't you mean your right to send someone else to defend you
is
not
to be dishonored?
Send who where?
Send soldiers Iraq. Fight bad terror people. You safe. But you
not fight.
Is that more comprehensible?
You safe too, Denis.
No. Me not safe. No one safe.
You say I safe, now you say no one safe. Make up mind. You got mind
to make up?
No one safe. You only think you safe.
Why you say safe before?
Because you think you safe. You dumb?
YOU dumb. Not say think, say safe. Now say not safe.
You say the thing that is not.
Now you say not safe now?
Never safe.
Me think you make
words mean different things.
You not get rhetorical technique.
Big fancy words make head hurt.
You not fight.
Me fight if attacked.
We was attacked. Why you not want to fight?
We not attacked by Iraq. Why we fight Iraq?
Iraq part of bigger thing.
Not.
You really dumb.
You make bad words about people not fight just like you.
Those people send soldiers to fight. I not do.
You safe just like "those people". Why you *****?
Not safe. More not safe.
Why you say not safe?
There are still bad mans. No one safe.
That why we fight Iraq too.
What wrong with you?
Me think.
You not think. You emotional.
You not think. You preach.
Not preach. Teach. You no learn.
Then me not emotional, me rational. You not get.
You not rational. You emotional. Cry about spilled milk long dried up.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Every day, we buy -0.000005 Celsius degrees (of Global Warming
reduction) for one half of the LHC collider."
--
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-
torture-
supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates
received audience applause for endorsing torture, former
Marine Corps commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S.
CentCom commander Gen. Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt
to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during
World War II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which
ruined the lives of hundreds of Americans. And it led the
United States to adopt a policy at the highest levels that
condoned and even authorized torture of prisoners in our
custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about
another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it
is
the
duty of the commander in chief to lead the country away from
the grip of fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at
Tuesday
night's
presidential debate in South Carolina, several Republican
candidates revealed a stunning FAILURE to understand this
most basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are
negotiable
in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those
undecideds
into the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are
well
down the road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to
be dishonored.
Don't you mean your right to send someone else to defend you
is
not
to be dishonored?
Send who where?
Send soldiers Iraq. Fight bad terror people. You safe. But you
not fight.
Is that more comprehensible?
You safe too, Denis.
No. Me not safe. No one safe.
You say I safe, now you say no one safe. Make up mind. You got mind
to make up?
No one safe. You only think you safe.
Why you say safe before?
Because you think you safe. You dumb?
YOU dumb. Not say think, say safe. Now say not safe.
You say the thing that is not.
Me grant what he think to show he bad.
Me not care he wrong what he think.
Now you say not safe now?
Never safe.
Me think you make
words mean different things.
You not get rhetorical technique.
Big fancy words make head hurt.
You not fight.
Me fight if attacked.
We was attacked. Why you not want to fight?
We not attacked by Iraq. Why we fight Iraq?
Iraq part of bigger thing.
Not.
You really dumb.
It part of world. That what you say? Me know. So what. Big deal.
You make bad words about people not fight just like you.
Those people send soldiers to fight. I not do.
You safe just like "those people". Why you *****?
Not safe. More not safe.
Why you say not safe?
There are still bad mans. No one safe.
That why we fight Iraq too.
Iraq not hurt us when we not there. Now it hurt us cause we there.
What wrong with you?
Me think.
You not think. You emotional.
You not think. You preach.
Not preach. Teach. You no learn.
Then me not emotional, me rational. You not get.
You not rational. You emotional. Cry about spilled milk long dried up.
Me only cry at spilled milk, you make men fight over spilled milk long dried
up.
They die.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-
blast-
torture-
supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates
received audience applause for endorsing torture, former
Marine Corps commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former
U.S. CentCom commander Gen. Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin
Roosevelt to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during
World War II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt,
which ruined the lives of hundreds of Americans. And it
led the United States to adopt a policy at the highest
levels that condoned and even authorized torture of
prisoners in our custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about
another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it
is
the
duty of the commander in chief to lead the country away
from the grip of fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at
Tuesday
night's
presidential debate in South Carolina, several Republican
candidates revealed a stunning FAILURE to understand this
most basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are
negotiable
in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those
undecideds
into the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we
are
well
down the road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not
to be dishonored.
Don't you mean your right to send someone else to defend you
is
not
to be dishonored?
Send who where?
Send soldiers Iraq. Fight bad terror people. You safe. But you
not fight.
Is that more comprehensible?
You safe too, Denis.
No. Me not safe. No one safe.
You say I safe, now you say no one safe. Make up mind. You got
mind to make up?
No one safe. You only think you safe.
Why you say safe before?
Because you think you safe. You dumb?
YOU dumb. Not say think, say safe. Now say not safe.
You say the thing that is not.
Me grant what he think to show he bad.
Me not care he wrong what he think.
Now you say not safe now?
Never safe.
Me think you make
words mean different things.
You not get rhetorical technique.
Big fancy words make head hurt.
You not fight.
Me fight if attacked.
We was attacked. Why you not want to fight?
We not attacked by Iraq. Why we fight Iraq?
Iraq part of bigger thing.
Not.
You really dumb.
It part of world. That what you say? Me know. So what. Big deal.
Part of terror thing. Not part of 911 thing but still bad.
Also weak and in good place for fight more bad guys later.
You make bad words about people not fight just like you.
Those people send soldiers to fight. I not do.
You safe just like "those people". Why you *****?
Not safe. More not safe.
Why you say not safe?
There are still bad mans. No one safe.
That why we fight Iraq too.
Iraq not hurt us when we not there. Now it hurt us cause we there.
Yes, Iraq hurt us. Try to kill ex-President. Shoot at planes enforce
treaty. Do other stupid stuff. Bribe UN. Got long list big muckmucks
vote on big city with fancy house.
What wrong with you?
Me think.
You not think. You emotional.
You not think. You preach.
Not preach. Teach. You no learn.
Then me not emotional, me rational. You not get.
You not rational. You emotional. Cry about spilled milk long dried
up.
Me only cry at spilled milk, you make men fight over spilled milk long
dried up.
They die.
Yep, you emotional
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Every day, we buy -0.000005 Celsius degrees (of Global Warming
reduction) for one half of the LHC collider."
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-
blast-
torture-
supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates
received audience applause for endorsing torture, former
Marine Corps commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former
U.S. CentCom commander Gen. Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin
Roosevelt to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during
World War II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt,
which ruined the lives of hundreds of Americans. And it
led the United States to adopt a policy at the highest
levels that condoned and even authorized torture of
prisoners in our custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about
another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it
is
the
duty of the commander in chief to lead the country away
from the grip of fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at
Tuesday
night's
presidential debate in South Carolina, several Republican
candidates revealed a stunning FAILURE to understand this
most basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are
negotiable
in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those
undecideds
into the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we
are
well
down the road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not
to be dishonored.
Don't you mean your right to send someone else to defend you
is
not
to be dishonored?
Send who where?
Send soldiers Iraq. Fight bad terror people. You safe. But you
not fight.
Is that more comprehensible?
You safe too, Denis.
No. Me not safe. No one safe.
You say I safe, now you say no one safe. Make up mind. You got
mind to make up?
No one safe. You only think you safe.
Why you say safe before?
Because you think you safe. You dumb?
YOU dumb. Not say think, say safe. Now say not safe.
You say the thing that is not.
Me grant what he think to show he bad.
Me not care he wrong what he think.
Now you say not safe now?
Never safe.
Me think you make
words mean different things.
You not get rhetorical technique.
Big fancy words make head hurt.
You not fight.
Me fight if attacked.
We was attacked. Why you not want to fight?
We not attacked by Iraq. Why we fight Iraq?
Iraq part of bigger thing.
Not.
You really dumb.
It part of world. That what you say? Me know. So what. Big deal.
Part of terror thing.
No, it not part of terror thing.
Not part of 911 thing but still bad.
Many bad, you want fight all?
Also weak and in good place for fight more bad guys later.
We hit first, we bad.
You make bad words about people not fight just like you.
Those people send soldiers to fight. I not do.
You safe just like "those people". Why you *****?
Not safe. More not safe.
Why you say not safe?
There are still bad mans. No one safe.
That why we fight Iraq too.
Iraq not hurt us when we not there. Now it hurt us cause we there.
Yes, Iraq hurt us. Try to kill ex-President.
We kill theirs. We so much better.
Shoot at planes enforce
treaty.
Planes drop bombs, what you do in their shoes?
Do other stupid stuff.
Now you want we fight all stupids?
Bribe UN. Got long list big muckmucks
vote on big city with fancy house.
You want we kill all who do?
What wrong with you?
Me think.
You not think. You emotional.
You not think. You preach.
Not preach. Teach. You no learn.
Then me not emotional, me rational. You not get.
You not rational. You emotional. Cry about spilled milk long dried
up.
Me only cry at spilled milk, you make men fight over spilled milk long
dried up.
They die.
Yep, you emotional
Yep, you not rational.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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<...>
It part of world. That what you say? Me know. So what. Big deal.
Part of terror thing.
No, it not part of terror thing.
Lots big deep thinkers think so back when.
Not part of 911 thing but still bad.
Many bad, you want fight all?
One at a time.
Also weak and in good place for fight more bad guys later.
We hit first, we bad.
We let *them* hit first we *dumb*.
<...>
Iraq not hurt us when we not there. Now it hurt us cause we there.
Yes, Iraq hurt us. Try to kill ex-President.
We kill theirs. We so much better.
We not kill. We catch, they kill.
Shoot at planes enforce
treaty.
Planes drop bombs, what you do in their shoes?
Maybe try talk-talk. You like talk-talk right?
Why talk-talk bad unless it us doing the talk-talk?
Do other stupid stuff.
Now you want we fight all stupids?
It wrong to fight stupids?
Bribe UN. Got long list big muckmucks
vote on big city with fancy house.
You want we kill all who do?
It wrong to fight bad guys?
You not rational. You emotional. Cry about spilled milk long dried
up.
Me only cry at spilled milk, you make men fight over spilled milk
long dried up.
They die.
Yep, you emotional
Yep, you not rational.
Me rational, not let tears affect brain.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Every day, we buy -0.000005 Celsius degrees (of Global Warming
reduction) for one half of the LHC collider."
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:qsidnW4XNK6A6cvbnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@io.com:
<...>
It part of world. That what you say? Me know. So what. Big deal.
Part of terror thing.
No, it not part of terror thing.
Lots big deep thinkers think so back when.
Where they get idea?
What they think now?
Not part of 911 thing but still bad.
Many bad, you want fight all?
One at a time.
What they do? Why they first?
Also weak and in good place for fight more bad guys later.
We hit first, we bad.
We let *them* hit first we *dumb*.
We don't, we bad. You think bad better than dumb.
Iraq not hurt us when we not there. Now it hurt us cause we there.
Yes, Iraq hurt us. Try to kill ex-President.
We kill theirs. We so much better.
We not kill. We catch, they kill.
Uh huh. Bombs for show?
Shoot at planes enforce
treaty.
Planes drop bombs, what you do in their shoes?
Maybe try talk-talk. You like talk-talk right?
Bombs drop on you and you want talk?
Why talk-talk bad unless it us doing the talk-talk?
I think you lie. I think bombs drop on you, you not talk, you fight.
Do other stupid stuff.
Now you want we fight all stupids?
It wrong to fight stupids?
It stupid to fight whole world.
Bribe UN. Got long list big muckmucks
vote on big city with fancy house.
You want we kill all who do?
It wrong to fight bad guys?
What happen to talk-talk? Now you want fight first?
You not rational. You emotional. Cry about spilled milk long dried
up.
Me only cry at spilled milk, you make men fight over spilled milk
long dried up.
They die.
Yep, you emotional
Yep, you not rational.
Me rational, not let tears affect brain.
Then me not emotional, not let lies cloud brain.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns993B5B2999468freddybear@66.150.105.47...
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:qsidnW4XNK6A6cvbnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@io.com:
<...>
It part of world. That what you say? Me know. So what. Big deal.
Part of terror thing.
No, it not part of terror thing.
Lots big deep thinkers think so back when.
Where they get idea?
Best anybody know at the time.
What they think now?
They think "lot dumb folks vote for me if I say I dumb".
Not part of 911 thing but still bad.
Many bad, you want fight all?
One at a time.
What they do? Why they first?
They second.
Also weak and in good place for fight more bad guys later.
We hit first, we bad.
We let *them* hit first we *dumb*.
We don't, we bad. You think bad better than dumb.
You got that right. Maybe you not so dumb.
Iraq not hurt us when we not there. Now it hurt us cause we there.
Yes, Iraq hurt us. Try to kill ex-President.
We kill theirs. We so much better.
We not kill. We catch, they kill.
Uh huh. Bombs for show?
Bombs for shock and awe. BIG show. :)
Shoot at planes enforce
treaty.
Planes drop bombs, what you do in their shoes?
Maybe try talk-talk. You like talk-talk right?
Bombs drop on you and you want talk?
Try talk-talk first anyway. Make nice show whole world like talk-talk.
Why talk-talk bad unless it us doing the talk-talk?
I think you lie. I think bombs drop on you, you not talk, you fight.
You not so dumb.
Do other stupid stuff.
Now you want we fight all stupids?
It wrong to fight stupids?
It stupid to fight whole world.
Whole world not fight. Whole world nothing but talk-talk.
Bribe UN. Got long list big muckmucks
vote on big city with fancy house.
You want we kill all who do?
It wrong to fight bad guys?
What happen to talk-talk? Now you want fight first?
Talk-talk long time not work, time to fight.
You not rational. You emotional. Cry about spilled milk long
dried up.
Me only cry at spilled milk, you make men fight over spilled milk
long dried up.
They die.
Yep, you emotional
Yep, you not rational.
Me rational, not let tears affect brain.
Then me not emotional, not let lies cloud brain.
You brain still cloudy, but not so dumb maybe.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"When they put out that deadline, people realized that we were going to
lose," said an aide to an anti-war lawmaker. "Everything after that
seemed like posturing."
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19 May 2007 12:45:20 PM |
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On 18 May 2007 18:36:12 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:9fmdnV6er4KMUdDbnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@io.com:
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
news:dDa3i.4046$Xo.1587@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
news:tO2dncKkv_abq9DbnZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d@io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:7f0q43hvrddelhcmtjkrd3msmjc48p0b0n@4ax.com...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-
torture-
supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates received
audience applause for endorsing torture, former Marine Corps
commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S. CentCom commander
Gen. Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during World
War II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which ruined the
lives of hundreds of Americans. And it led the United States to
adopt a policy at the highest levels that condoned and even
authorized torture of prisoners in our custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it is the
duty of the commander in chief to lead the country away from the
grip of fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at Tuesday night's
presidential debate in South Carolina, several Republican
candidates revealed a stunning FAILURE to understand this most
basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are negotiable
in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those undecideds
into the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are well
down the road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to be
dishonored.
Don't you mean your right to send someone else to defend you is not
to be dishonored?
Send who where?
Send soldiers Iraq. Fight bad terror people. You safe. But you not
fight.
Is that more comprehensible?
You safe too, Denis. You not fight.
You make bad words about people not fight just like you.
What wrong with you?
Leave it up to Fred to idolize Jack Nicholson's character in "A Few
Good Men"
--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -3 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3414 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
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18 May 2007 11:11:24 AM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:7f0q43hvrddelhcmtjkrd3msmjc48p0b0n@4ax.com...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-torture-supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates received
audience applause for endorsing torture, former Marine Corps
commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S. CentCom commander Gen.
Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during World War
II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which ruined the lives of
hundreds of Americans. And it led the United States to adopt a policy
at the highest levels that condoned and even authorized torture of
prisoners in our custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it is the duty
of the commander in chief to lead the country away from the grip of
fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at Tuesday night's presidential
debate in South Carolina, several Republican candidates revealed a
stunning FAILURE to understand this most basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are negotiable in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those undecideds into
the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are well down the
road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to be
dishonored.
Don't you mean your right to send someone else to defend you is not to
be dishonored?
Send who where?
Send soldiers Iraq.
Iraq not next to USA.
Fight bad terror people.
Me no concerned about Iraq.
Kim Jong no threat to me either.
You safe.
You mean the taxdollars of the people of USA are safe from theft by overseas
cowards who won't fight their own fights?
But you not fight.
Why should I?
I not stupid.
I not go overseas to fight.
Is that more comprehensible?
No more comprehensible than burning money in a furnace for heat.
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18 May 2007 09:04:15 PM |
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On Fri, 18 May 2007 12:11:24 -0400, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
I not stupid.
I not go overseas to fight.
No, you're just stupid enough to fight a cop and get yourself tossed
into prison.
Is that more comprehensible?
No more comprehensible than burning money in a furnace for heat.
Or trying to beat a cop up and calling it self defense.
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18 May 2007 12:50:23 AM |
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 23:35:01 -0400, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:7f0q43hvrddelhcmtjkrd3msmjc48p0b0n@4ax.com...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-torture-supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates received
audience applause for endorsing torture, former Marine Corps
commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S. CentCom commander Gen.
Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during World War
II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which ruined the lives of
hundreds of Americans. And it led the United States to adopt a policy
at the highest levels that condoned and even authorized torture of
prisoners in our custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it is the duty
of the commander in chief to lead the country away from the grip of
fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at Tuesday night's presidential
debate in South Carolina, several Republican candidates revealed a
stunning FAILURE to understand this most basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are negotiable in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those undecideds into
the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are well down the
road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to be dishonored.
You are a dishonor, DUI boy.
--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -3 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3402 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
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18 May 2007 01:19:15 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 23:35:01 -0400, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:7f0q43hvrddelhcmtjkrd3msmjc48p0b0n@4ax.com...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/17/retired-generals-blast-torture-supporters/
Days after several conservative presidential candidates received
audience applause for endorsing torture, former Marine Corps
commandant Gen. Charles Krulak and former U.S. CentCom commander Gen.
Joseph Hoar write:
Fear can be a strong motivator. It led Franklin Roosevelt to
intern tens of thousands of innocent U.S. citizens during World War
II; it led to Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt, which ruined the lives of
hundreds of Americans. And it led the United States to adopt a policy
at the highest levels that condoned and even authorized torture of
prisoners in our custody. [.]
The American people are understandably fearful about another
attack like the one we sustained on Sept. 11, 2001. But it is the duty
of the commander in chief to lead the country away from the grip of
fear, not into its grasp. Regrettably, at Tuesday night's presidential
debate in South Carolina, several Republican candidates revealed a
stunning FAILURE to understand this most basic OBLIGATION . [.]
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are negotiable in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those undecideds into
the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are well down the
road to it.
Good illustration of how our right to self-defense is not to be
dishonored.
You are a dishonor, DUI boy.
I do not possess your anti-Christian character traits.
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18 May 2007 09:05:05 PM |
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On Fri, 18 May 2007 02:19:15 -0400, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
I do not possess your anti-Christian character traits.
And he doesn't possess your anti-intelligence character traits.
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17 May 2007 09:30:49 PM |
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On Fri, 18 May 2007 01:33:18 GMT, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
If we FORFEIT our VALUES by signaling that they are negotiable in
situations of grave or imminent danger, we drive those undecideds into
the arms of the ENEMY. This way lies DEFEAT, and we are well down the
road to it.
Compromising our principles for safety is like raping for virginity -
it makes no sense.
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