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04 Jan 2007 11:24:18 AM |
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Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion
Modern Scholar Series - recorded books - 7 CD's
Lecturer: Professor Peter Kreeft
A highly recommend series for anyone interested in the subject of
religion and spiritual studies. The professor is a long time resident
of Boston college. I was afraid he would give a biased view of religion
due to his association with a Jesuit school. But I found this course to
be very fair minded. I could not tell and preference for any side of
the subject and he argued for all sides with the same zeal. The bulk of
the course discussed the monotheist and atheist views while the
remainder dealt with comparative religion studies of Buddhism,
Hinduism, Confucius, and Taoism.
Course Syllabus
Lecture 1 What Is Religion? Why Is It Worth Thinking About?
Lecture 2 Atheism
Lecture 3 The Problem of Evil
Lecture 4 Arguments for God's Existence from Nature (Cosmological
Arguments)
Lecture 5 Arguments for God's Existence from Human Experience
(Psychological Arguments)
Lecture 6 Religion and Science
Lecture 7 The Case Against Life After Death
Lecture 8 The Case for Life After Death: Twelve Arguments
Lecture 9 Different Concepts of Heaven
Lecture 10 Hell
Lecture 11 Testing the Different Truth-Claims of Different Religions
Lecture 12 Comparative Religions
Lecture 13 What Would Socrates Think?
Lecture 14 Religious Experience
http://www.recordedbooks.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=scholar.show_course&%7Bts%20%272007%2D01%2D02%2013%3A54%3A45%27%7D
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
05 Jan 2007 09:56:54 AM |
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"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion
Boring ***** - Everything V posts.
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
04 Jan 2007 12:35:08 PM |
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I noticed the list of lectures and that none put a case forward against
faith in any god. He left that gap in his "fairness." Also, did he
ever broach the subject of how or why we have always had religions and
the reason for it? Did he explain why religions appear and then later
on die out as many have already done in History? It is a good subject=
"why are religions expendable?" Did he deal with the evolution of
religion?
Also, I note that he missed the religion of China. You list "Taoism
and Buddhism" but failed to list the REAL religion of ancient China,
their ancestor-worship faith. Did he recognize Marism as a religion?
Even social scientists refer to it as a "secular" religion.
I would be curious to know what he says about Hinduism because if you
ask ten Hinduis what their religion teaches, you end up with ten
answers that are totally unrecogniable to each other.
charles, http://humanpurpose.simplenet.com
V wrote:
Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion
Modern Scholar Series - recorded books - 7 CD's
Lecturer: Professor Peter Kreeft
A highly recommend series for anyone interested in the subject of
religion and spiritual studies. The professor is a long time resident
of Boston college. I was afraid he would give a biased view of religion
due to his association with a Jesuit school. But I found this course to
be very fair minded. I could not tell and preference for any side of
the subject and he argued for all sides with the same zeal. The bulk of
the course discussed the monotheist and atheist views while the
remainder dealt with comparative religion studies of Buddhism,
Hinduism, Confucius, and Taoism.
Course Syllabus
Lecture 1 What Is Religion? Why Is It Worth Thinking About?
Lecture 2 Atheism
Lecture 3 The Problem of Evil
Lecture 4 Arguments for God's Existence from Nature (Cosmological
Arguments)
Lecture 5 Arguments for God's Existence from Human Experience
(Psychological Arguments)
Lecture 6 Religion and Science
Lecture 7 The Case Against Life After Death
Lecture 8 The Case for Life After Death: Twelve Arguments
Lecture 9 Different Concepts of Heaven
Lecture 10 Hell
Lecture 11 Testing the Different Truth-Claims of Different Religions
Lecture 12 Comparative Religions
Lecture 13 What Would Socrates Think?
Lecture 14 Religious Experience
http://www.recordedbooks.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=scholar.show_course&%7Bts%20%272007%2D01%2D02%2013%3A54%3A45%27%7D
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
04 Jan 2007 06:15:35 PM |
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Chas wrote:
I noticed the list of lectures and that none put a case forward against
faith in any god.
Hi chas and thanks for your comments. He discussed 20 reasons for
atheism as well as other skeptic related material.
He left that gap in his "fairness." Also, did he
ever broach the subject of how or why we have always had religions and
the reason for it?
Somewhat, but not from the beginning of man.
His fairness being I could not tell what religion he was if any from
the CD's
Did he explain why religions appear and then later
on die out as many have already done in History?
No, just stuck with major ones.
It is a good subject=
"why are religions expendable?" Did he deal with the evolution of
religion?
yes within the religions discussed
Also, I note that he missed the religion of China. You list "Taoism
and Buddhism" but failed to list the REAL religion of ancient China,
their ancestor-worship faith. Did he recognize Marism as a religion?
Even social scientists refer to it as a "secular" religion.
No, just confuc and tao. this set is only 7 cd.s so limited on scope.
I would be curious to know what he says about Hinduism because if you
ask ten Hinduis what their religion teaches, you end up with ten
answers that are totally unrecogniable to each other.
Just listen to it. very interesting regarding Hindus, although am not
into it much and you may be bored. It should be free from interlibrary
loan, so costs you zero.
charles, http://humanpurpose.simplenet.com
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
04 Jan 2007 04:49:30 PM |
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On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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04 Jan 2007 06:16:21 PM |
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raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
I do not know what you are talking about?
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
05 Jan 2007 02:45:17 AM |
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"V" <vfr44@aol.com> writes:
raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
You can't even lie credibly.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Peoria 4, Houston 3 (SO) (January 4)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, January 6 vs. Syracuse, 7:35
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| User: "V" |
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05 Jan 2007 06:37:23 AM |
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The Chief Instigator wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> writes:
raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
You can't even lie credibly.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Peoria 4, Houston 3 (SO) (January 4)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, January 6 vs. Syracuse, 7:35
I do not know what you are talking about?
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
05 Jan 2007 10:26:20 AM |
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"V" <vfr44@aol.com> writes:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> writes:
raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
You can't even lie credibly.
I do not know what you are talking about?
Someone needs to kick you in the head - you're stuck again.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Peoria 4, Houston 3 (SO) (January 4)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, January 6 vs. Syracuse, 7:35
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
05 Jan 2007 09:58:10 AM |
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"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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The Chief Instigator wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> writes:
raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
You can't even lie credibly.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston,
Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Peoria 4, Houston 3 (SO) (January 4)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, January 6 vs. Syracuse, 7:35
I do not know what you are talking about?
Why are you asking us? Fucking idiot :P
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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06 Jan 2007 02:39:49 PM |
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V wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> writes:
raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
You can't even lie credibly.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Peoria 4, Houston 3 (SO) (January 4)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, January 6 vs. Syracuse, 7:35
I do not know what you are talking about?
We're talking about *this*, numbnuts:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/010315482ce978e2?dmode=source&hl=en
Why haven't you left yet?
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man, Sep 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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05 Jan 2007 09:57:44 AM |
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"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
05 Jan 2007 10:27:18 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Peoria 4, Houston 3 (SO) (January 4)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, January 6 vs. Syracuse, 7:35
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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05 Jan 2007 01:00:44 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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05 Jan 2007 06:55:57 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1167956181.687752.64690@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Well, "V" lives his life in a Möbius loop, if his articles are any
indication. ;-)
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Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Peoria 4, Houston 3 (SO) (January 4)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, January 6 vs. Syracuse, 7:35
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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05 Jan 2007 02:25:00 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"When it comes to God's existence, I'm not an atheist
and I'm not an agnostic. I'm an acrostic.
The whole thing puzzles me." - George Carlin
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05 Jan 2007 03:03:28 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
You don't want to?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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05 Jan 2007 07:56:27 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:03:28 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
You don't want to?
Werewolf!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"There is something feeble and a little contemptible about
a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of
comfortable myths. Almost inevitably some part of him is
aware that they are myths and that he believes them only
because they are comforting. But he dare not face this
thought! Moreover, since he is aware, however dimly, that his
opinions are not rational, he becomes furious when they are
disputed." - Bertrand Russell
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06 Jan 2007 06:38:29 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:03:28 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
You don't want to?
Werewolf!
Iiiiiiiiii ain't got no body!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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06 Jan 2007 08:04:11 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:38:29 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:03:28 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
You don't want to?
Werewolf!
Iiiiiiiiii ain't got no body!
Roll! Roll! Roll in the hay!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each
other. They slander each other constantly with the vilest
forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of agreement
in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the
head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect
little pigs of those it wins over to its side."
- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)
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06 Jan 2007 02:28:12 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
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On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:38:29 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:03:28 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
You don't want to?
Werewolf!
Iiiiiiiiii ain't got no body!
Roll! Roll! Roll in the hay!
What knockers!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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06 Jan 2007 02:38:16 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in news:50af33F1f5hcqU1
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
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On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:38:29 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:03:28 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:TdadnT2beLGBKQPYnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
You don't want to?
Werewolf!
Iiiiiiiiii ain't got no body!
Roll! Roll! Roll in the hay!
What knockers!
"Sweet mystery of life, at last I've found you!"
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
Interviewer: "Didn't [Sagan] want to believe?"
Druyan: "He didn't want to believe. He wanted to know."
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06 Jan 2007 02:02:22 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 08:04:11 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:38:29 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:_ZidnTBnU_1WnALYnZ2dnUVZ_qDinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:03:28 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:TdadnT2beLGBKQPYnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xgh5ti1.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1167956181.687752.64690@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
You don't want to?
Werewolf!
Iiiiiiiiii ain't got no body!
Roll! Roll! Roll in the hay!
"Sweet mystery of life at last I found you!" <french horn solo>
Yes, I do have a story about this.
The first time I saw this movie was circa 1981 or so at an off-campus
Baptist student union in deepest, darkest East Texas. This Baptist student
union had obtained a VCR and had started a "movie night" once a week. I
heard about it and decided to attend. This was the movie they had chosen
that particular evening.
Up to this point they hadn't been vetting the movies before showing them.
There had been a few points during the film when there were some
expressions of shock, but when that final punchline was delivered, I saw at
least one girl bury her face in her hands and there were a lot of other
stunned faces. Me, I was almost rolling on the floor laughing.
So that particular quote has always seemed _particularly_ funny to me.
(Of course, the following week they announced a new policy of previewing
the films before showing them, to verify that they were "appropriate." I
never went back.)
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
07 Jan 2007 10:41:41 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 12:02:22 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 08:04:11 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:38:29 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:_ZidnTBnU_1WnALYnZ2dnUVZ_qDinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:03:28 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:TdadnT2beLGBKQPYnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xgh5ti1.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1167956181.687752.64690@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
You don't want to?
Werewolf!
Iiiiiiiiii ain't got no body!
Roll! Roll! Roll in the hay!
"Sweet mystery of life at last I found you!" <french horn solo>
Yes, I do have a story about this.
The first time I saw this movie was circa 1981 or so at an off-campus
Baptist student union in deepest, darkest East Texas. This Baptist student
union had obtained a VCR and had started a "movie night" once a week. I
heard about it and decided to attend. This was the movie they had chosen
that particular evening.
Up to this point they hadn't been vetting the movies before showing them.
There had been a few points during the film when there were some
expressions of shock, but when that final punchline was delivered, I saw at
least one girl bury her face in her hands and there were a lot of other
stunned faces. Me, I was almost rolling on the floor laughing.
So that particular quote has always seemed _particularly_ funny to me.
(Of course, the following week they announced a new policy of previewing
the films before showing them, to verify that they were "appropriate." I
never went back.)
<snicker>
Now if somebody could have just switched labels after the vetting. You
know, stick Rocky Horror in...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned
and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and
the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong
its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until
all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic
is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety than ever
before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions
may prove groundless." - Abraham Lincoln
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
07 Jan 2007 11:47:10 AM |
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On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 10:41:41 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 12:02:22 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 08:04:11 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:38:29 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:_ZidnTBnU_1WnALYnZ2dnUVZ_qDinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:03:28 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:TdadnT2beLGBKQPYnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xgh5ti1.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1167956181.687752.64690@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
You don't want to?
Werewolf!
Iiiiiiiiii ain't got no body!
Roll! Roll! Roll in the hay!
"Sweet mystery of life at last I found you!" <french horn solo>
Yes, I do have a story about this.
The first time I saw this movie was circa 1981 or so at an off-campus
Baptist student union in deepest, darkest East Texas. This Baptist student
union had obtained a VCR and had started a "movie night" once a week. I
heard about it and decided to attend. This was the movie they had chosen
that particular evening.
Up to this point they hadn't been vetting the movies before showing them.
There had been a few points during the film when there were some
expressions of shock, but when that final punchline was delivered, I saw at
least one girl bury her face in her hands and there were a lot of other
stunned faces. Me, I was almost rolling on the floor laughing.
So that particular quote has always seemed _particularly_ funny to me.
(Of course, the following week they announced a new policy of previewing
the films before showing them, to verify that they were "appropriate." I
never went back.)
<snicker>
Now if somebody could have just switched labels after the vetting. You
know, stick Rocky Horror in...
"It's just a horror film! You know, like the ones from the 30s!"
Ah, if only...
Except I think that one would have had then rolling on the floor and
gouging their own eyes out. Not that that would have been a _bad_ thing,
mind you, but not quite so funny as the embarrassment and shock when they
got the final YF joke.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
06 Jan 2007 05:48:48 AM |
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 19:56:27 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:03:28 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:TdadnT2beLGBKQPYnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xgh5ti1.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1167956181.687752.64690@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
You don't want to?
Werewolf!
There, wolf! There, castle!
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
06 Jan 2007 09:23:52 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 06:48:48 -0500, raven1 wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 19:56:27 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:03:28 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:TdadnT2beLGBKQPYnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xgh5ti1.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1167956181.687752.64690@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
You don't want to?
Werewolf!
There, wolf! There, castle!
What knockers!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe is fine tuned
for life is akin to a puddle being surprised at how well it
fits its hole" - Douglas Adams
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
06 Jan 2007 02:28:36 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:OaydnSqZs-GVIgLYnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 06:48:48 -0500, raven1 wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 19:56:27 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:03:28 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:TdadnT2beLGBKQPYnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xgh5ti1.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1167956181.687752.64690@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
You don't want to?
Werewolf!
There, wolf! There, castle!
What knockers!
Frau Blucher!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
06 Jan 2007 02:38:47 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in news:50af3rF1et1tiU1
@mid.individual.net:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:OaydnSqZs-GVIgLYnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 06:48:48 -0500, raven1 wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 19:56:27 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:03:28 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:TdadnT2beLGBKQPYnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xgh5ti1.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1167956181.687752.64690@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
You don't want to?
Werewolf!
There, wolf! There, castle!
What knockers!
Frau Blucher!
Neigh!
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
Interviewer: "Didn't [Sagan] want to believe?"
Druyan: "He didn't want to believe. He wanted to know."
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
07 Jan 2007 09:06:36 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:28:36 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:OaydnSqZs-GVIgLYnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 06:48:48 -0500, raven1 wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 19:56:27 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:03:28 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:TdadnT2beLGBKQPYnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xgh5ti1.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1167956181.687752.64690@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
You don't want to?
Werewolf!
There, wolf! There, castle!
What knockers!
Frau Blucher!
Stay close to the candles, the newsgroup can be treacherous...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned
and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and
the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong
its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until
all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic
is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety than ever
before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions
may prove groundless." - Abraham Lincoln
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Review of Faith and Reason - Philosophy of Religion |
07 Jan 2007 09:15:22 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:4vidnSGtAcLhkTzYnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d@giganews.com...
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:28:36 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:OaydnSqZs-GVIgLYnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 06:48:48 -0500, raven1 wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 19:56:27 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:03:28 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:TdadnT2beLGBKQPYnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xgh5ti1.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1167956181.687752.64690@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
raven1 wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 09:24:18 -0800, "V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
We did tell you that your return was not welcome, right...?
I do not know what you are talking about?
Are you asking him or telling him?
How should *he* know?
Are we going to start this again? ;)
Why are you talking that way?
You don't want to?
Werewolf!
There, wolf! There, castle!
What knockers!
Frau Blucher!
Stay close to the candles, the newsgroup can be treacherous...
Ovaltine!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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