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24 Jun 2004 09:05:17 AM |
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Ron Reagan Jr. - Proud Atheist |
On CNN's Larry King Live, Reagan volunteered that he was an atheist. Guess
he'll never be running for political office.
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| Title: Re: Ron Reagan Jr. - Proud Atheist |
24 Jun 2004 04:51:18 PM |
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"Ian S" <iws51remove@cox.net> wrote in message news:<JbBCc.7637$rn1.1832@okepread07>...
On CNN's Larry King Live, Reagan volunteered that he was an atheist.
Guess he'll never be running for political office.
Is this show archived?
LR
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| User: "Lannie Ruvin" |
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| Title: Re: Ron Reagan Jr. - Proud Atheist |
24 Jun 2004 05:21:12 PM |
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"Ian S" <iws51remove@cox.net> wrote in message news:<JbBCc.7637$rn1.1832@okepread07>...
On CNN's Larry King Live, Reagan volunteered that he was an atheist. Guess
he'll never be running for political office.
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0406/23/lkl.00.html is the transcript.
this is extracted from that interview:
KING: Do you ever think of running for office?
REAGAN: No...
KING: You've got a pretty good name going in.
REAGAN: It seems to work for some people.
KING: Wouldn't hurt you.
REAGAN: No, I'm not really cut out to be a politician. You know that I
sometimes don't know when to shut up. That could be a drawback. I'm an
atheist. So there you go right there. I can't be elected to anything
because polls all say that people won't elect an atheist.
KING: Being raised in a political household, didn't you ever have a
tendency to want to hold back, to think, I can't say this. What would
he say? What would his party say?
REAGAN: No, not really. That never occurred to me. My father used to
just say what he meant. If he felt something, felt it strongly, he'd
go out and talk about it. I never got the feeling that there were
different rules for him and the rest of us.
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LR
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| User: "Lannie Ruvin" |
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| Title: Ron Reagan, convention speaker; was: Ron Reagan Jr. - Proud Atheist |
12 Jul 2004 02:28:34 PM |
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coverage of an attempt to discredit Reagan as a convention speaker is
here:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cst-edt-novak12.html
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http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/special_packages/election2004/9132302.htm
Posted on Sun, Jul. 11, 2004
Ron Reagan to address Democratic convention BY GAIL SHISTER Knight
Ridder Newspapers LOS ANGELES - (KRT) -
----partial extract from article:
In a move sure to embarrass Republicans, Ron Reagan will address the
Democratic National Convention this month.
Reagan, son of former President Ronald Reagan and an outspoken critic
of the Bush administration, will be at the podium on the second night
of the four-day event in Boston, July 27, in support of stem-cell
research, he said Sunday in an interview here. ...
Reagan, a Seattle resident with his wife, clinical psychologist Doria,
said he was contacted about two weeks ago by the Democratic National
Committee. He said he "had a nice chat" on the phone with Kerry, "but
he wasn't pushing me. I had already decided."
A registered independent who has long been an outspoken political
liberal, Reagan said he would not campaign for Kerry or any other
candidate. He said he would vote for Kerry, however, "as a way to
defeat Bush." ...
Reagan also opposes Bush's stand on stem-cell research. That is the
only reason Reagan accepted the Democrats' invitation, he said. ...
"If they had asked me to say a few words about throwing George Bush
out of office, I wouldn't do it," said Ron Reagan, in Los Angeles to
attend "Hardball" host Chris Matthews' session with TV critics. Reagan
is a political commentator for the show on MSNBC.
"This gives me a platform to educate people about stem-cell research,"
Reagan said. "The conservative right has a rather simplistic way of
characterizing it as baby killing. We're not talking about fingers and
toes and brains. This is a mass of a couple hundred undifferentiated
cells."
Reagan, who will cover the Democratic and Republican conventions for
"Hardball," said he expected criticism from many Republicans for his
five-to-eight-minute speech to the Democrats. ...
Should he be asked, Reagan said he would not attend the planned
tribute to his father at the Republican convention, which is Aug.
30-Sept. 2 in New York.
"I don't think, in good conscience, I could take the chance that
somebody could read that as an endorsement of this administration," he
said. "I'll support any viable candidate who can defeat Bush."
Instead, Reagan suggested that the Republicans invite his
half-brother, Michael, an evangelical and stem-cell research opponent,
to speak at their gathering.
"Then we could have dueling Reagan sons," he said.
---end of extracted material from© 2004, The Philadelphia Inquirer.
Visit Philadelphia Online, the Inquirer's World Wide Web site, at
http://www.philly.com Distributed by Knight Ridder/Tribune Information
Services.
lanruvi2@yahoo.com (Lannie Ruvin) wrote in message news:<99c06796.0406241421.50f7f303@posting.google.com>...
"Ian S" <iws51remove@cox.net> wrote in message news:<JbBCc.7637$rn1.1832@okepread07>...
On CNN's Larry King Live, Reagan volunteered that he was an atheist. Guess
he'll never be running for political office.
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0406/23/lkl.00.html is the transcript.
this is extracted from that interview:
KING: Do you ever think of running for office?
REAGAN: No...
KING: You've got a pretty good name going in.
REAGAN: It seems to work for some people.
KING: Wouldn't hurt you.
REAGAN: No, I'm not really cut out to be a politician. You know that I
sometimes don't know when to shut up. That could be a drawback. I'm an
atheist. So there you go right there. I can't be elected to anything
because polls all say that people won't elect an atheist.
KING: Being raised in a political household, didn't you ever have a
tendency to want to hold back, to think, I can't say this. What would
he say? What would his party say?
REAGAN: No, not really. That never occurred to me. My father used to
just say what he meant. If he felt something, felt it strongly, he'd
go out and talk about it. I never got the feeling that there were
different rules for him and the rest of us.
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LR
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| User: "Spooked " |
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| Title: Re: Ron Reagan Jr. - Proud Atheist |
24 Jun 2004 03:00:49 PM |
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"Ian S" <iws51remove@cox.net> wrote:
On CNN's Larry King Live, Reagan volunteered that he was an atheist. Guess
he'll never be running for political office.
He's just bitter.
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Davidwd a.a
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| User: "Dr Dave W" |
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24 Jun 2004 04:45:33 PM |
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Spooked <> wrote in news:6ncmd0d8iemq81ro0vo6g8apc8lk9s4gf3@4ax.com:
"Ian S" <iws51remove@cox.net> wrote:
On CNN's Larry King Live, Reagan volunteered that he was an atheist.
Guess he'll never be running for political office.
He's just bitter.
Have you tasted him?
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Dave W a.a.#1967
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| User: "Spooked " |
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| Title: Re: Ron Reagan Jr. - Proud Atheist |
24 Jun 2004 05:48:32 PM |
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Dr Dave W <askme@formyaddy.comINVALID> wrote:
Spooked <> wrote in news:6ncmd0d8iemq81ro0vo6g8apc8lk9s4gf3@4ax.com:
"Ian S" <iws51remove@cox.net> wrote:
On CNN's Larry King Live, Reagan volunteered that he was an atheist.
Guess he'll never be running for political office.
He's just bitter.
Have you tasted him?
Damn! that's crisp.
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Davidwd a.a
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: Ron Reagan Jr. - Proud Atheist |
24 Jun 2004 08:23:15 PM |
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<Spooked> wrote in message
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Dr Dave W <askme@formyaddy.comINVALID> wrote:
Spooked <> wrote in news:6ncmd0d8iemq81ro0vo6g8apc8lk9s4gf3@4ax.com:
"Ian S" <iws51remove@cox.net> wrote:
On CNN's Larry King Live, Reagan volunteered that he was an atheist.
Guess he'll never be running for political office.
He's just bitter.
Have you tasted him?
Damn! that's crisp.
Butter than nothing.
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| User: "Lannie Ruvin" |
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| Title: Re: Ron Reagan Jr. - Proud Atheist |
25 Jun 2004 10:14:17 AM |
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"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message news:<68LCc.112826$0y.112188@attbi_s03>...
<Spooked> wrote in message
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Dr Dave W <askme@formyaddy.comINVALID> wrote:
<snip>
He's just bitter.
Have you tasted him?
Damn! that's crisp.
Butter than nothing.
Right.
But[ter] for this part: Ron Reagan is not "Jr." He addressed the
differences in his name and his father's name in the Larry King
interview.
Watch the show. It is being re-aired. Or, read the transcript.
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0406/23/lkl.00.html
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| User: "AnotherObserver® " |
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| Title: Re: Ron Reagan Jr. - Proud Atheist |
24 Jun 2004 09:46:05 PM |
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"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
<Spooked> wrote in message
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Dr Dave W <askme@formyaddy.comINVALID> wrote:
Spooked <> wrote in news:6ncmd0d8iemq81ro0vo6g8apc8lk9s4gf3@4ax.com:
"Ian S" <iws51remove@cox.net> wrote:
On CNN's Larry King Live, Reagan volunteered that he was an atheist.
Guess he'll never be running for political office.
He's just bitter.
Have you tasted him?
Damn! that's crisp.
Butter than nothing.
More butter, less bitter.
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Davidwd a.a
Spooked once,
but never again
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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24 Jun 2004 01:58:05 PM |
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On CNN's Larry King Live, Reagan volunteered that he was an atheist. Guess
he'll never be running for political office.
Ventura did...and won.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "Adam Marczyk" |
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| Title: Re: Ron Reagan Jr. - Proud Atheist |
24 Jun 2004 05:44:12 PM |
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"Lord Calvert" <forlornh@aol.complicated> wrote in message
news:20040624145805.29549.00000450@mb-m16.aol.com...
On CNN's Larry King Live, Reagan volunteered that he was an atheist.
Guess
he'll never be running for political office.
Ventura did...and won.
Though he did backpedal after making pro-atheism comments in a Playboy
interview, didn't he?
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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24 Jun 2004 06:04:13 PM |
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On CNN's Larry King Live, Reagan volunteered that he was an atheist.
Guess
he'll never be running for political office.
Ventura did...and won.
Though he did backpedal after making pro-atheism comments in a Playboy
interview, didn't he?
Depends on what you consider backpedaling. He absolutely railed against the
neo-cons regarding the National Day of Prayer. Thanks to his efforts, Minnesota
was the only state not to fall into lockstep with the neo-cons over this
travesty.
from http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/daypray4.htm
Ventura spokesman John Wodele replied to the MFC [Minnesota Family Council]
charges and defended the decision to not issue a proclamation supporting the
National Day of Prayer. "It's apples and oranges. The Rolling Stones don't have
anything to do with religion." Wodele added, " The reason the governor didn't
issue this is because we do not issue proclamations for religious events."
"He (Ventura) fundamentally believes religion is a personal issue and not a
state issue."
Any proclamation is signed by the secretary of state and goes on the state
record. Ventura did have Minnesota issue a "certificate of recognition" issued,
however, which simply means that the state is aware that the event is
happening. "It doesn't declare it as a state-sponsored day," noted the
Minneapolis Star Tribune newspaper.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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