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"Yang, AthD h.c" |
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04 Apr 2007 08:21:15 PM |
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Rudy Giuliani: Abortion a CONSTITUTIONAL Right! |
BWAHAHAHA
The GOP primary will be more entertaining than I though.
Someone pass the popcorn.
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/apr/04/rudy_confirms_it_he_still_favors_public_funding_for_abortion
"Ultimately, it's a constitutional right, and therefore if it's a
constitutional right, ultimately, even if you do it on a state by
state basis, you have to make sure people are protected," Giuliani
said in an interview with CNN's Dana Bash in Florida's capital city.
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| User: "Chris H. Fleming" |
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| Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani: Abortion a CONSTITUTIONAL Right! |
05 Apr 2007 03:20:01 AM |
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On Apr 4, 9:21 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
BWAHAHAHA
The GOP primary will be more entertaining than I though.
Someone pass the popcorn.
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/apr/04/r...
"Ultimately, it's a constitutional right, and therefore if it's a
constitutional right, ultimately, even if you do it on a state by
state basis, you have to make sure people are protected," Giuliani
said in an interview with CNN's Dana Bash in Florida's capital city.
Funny that Giuliani, a Republican, has more balls to speak openly
about his progressive stances than most of the Democratic front
runners.
The GOP are in a hard position though. McCain cannot win the popular
election. Romney is the 2-faced liar and an "evol Mormon". And
Giuliani isn't a social conservative.
I guess Romney will take the primaries because he's the biggest liar
and I think the social conservatives want to be lied to more than
anything else.
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani: Abortion a CONSTITUTIONAL Right! |
05 Apr 2007 05:34:20 AM |
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"Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1175761201.150207.325230@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 4, 9:21 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
BWAHAHAHA
The GOP primary will be more entertaining than I though.
Someone pass the popcorn.
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/apr/04/r...
"Ultimately, it's a constitutional right, and therefore if it's a
constitutional right, ultimately, even if you do it on a state by
state basis, you have to make sure people are protected," Giuliani
said in an interview with CNN's Dana Bash in Florida's capital city.
Funny that Giuliani, a Republican, has more balls to speak openly
about his progressive stances than most of the Democratic front
runners.
The GOP are in a hard position though. McCain cannot win the popular
election. Romney is the 2-faced liar and an "evol Mormon". And
Giuliani isn't a social conservative.
I guess Romney will take the primaries because he's the biggest liar
and I think the social conservatives want to be lied to more than
anything else.
Rudy's great! I like Romney as well. Any of the 3 Republicans could easily
beat the likes of Shrillery in a general election. I see the Donks have
having no chance, whatsoever.
I think that we have a real chance of seeing the Republican party move away
from the influence of the evangelicals. IMHO, their influence has been
waaay overstated for decades (the MSM loves to foster this impression), but
they are too strong within the party nonetheless. I see Rudy's candidacy as
a genuine opportunity for the Republicans place their emphasis on security,
the economy, smaller government and the other things that are important to
conservatives. I am very hopeful that we will take our party back!
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| User: "Mike" |
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| Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani: Abortion a CONSTITUTIONAL Right! |
05 Apr 2007 06:10:41 AM |
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On Apr 5, 6:34 am, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
Rudy's great! I like Romney as well. Any of the 3 Republicans could easily
beat the likes of Shrillery in a general election.
Doubtful. Bible thumping types would never go for Rudy and they tend
to dominate the primary process. And for different reasons they don't
like McCain. I think some other Repub will jump into the race and get
the nomination. Romney might have a better chance of getting the
nomination, but not such a good chance in the main election.
I see the Donks have
having no chance, whatsoever.
I think that we have a real chance of seeing the Republican party move away
from the influence of the evangelicals.
If you have an argument for this position I would be happy to hear
it. The Reps are in much the position that the Dems were a couple
decades ago. The Dems were trying to be a "big tent" that could
include moderate economically conservative democrates, angry black
types, and militant vegetarian lesbians, etc. at the same time. Now
the Reps have the problem of how to simultaneously please northeastern
moderate republicans and the bible thumping twits of the red states.
IMHO, their influence has been
waaay overstated for decades (the MSM loves to foster this impression), but
they are too strong within the party nonetheless. I see Rudy's candidacy as
a genuine opportunity for the Republicans place their emphasis on security,
the economy, smaller government and the other things that are important to
conservatives. I am very hopeful that we will take our party back!
It may take Repubs decades to recover from the damage Bush has done to
the party. I don't see how any Repub can find a postion on the Iraq
war that will work.
By the way the campaigning process is early. I'm not assuming that
the Dem candidate has to be either Hillary or Obama.
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani: Abortion a CONSTITUTIONAL Right! |
05 Apr 2007 06:00:19 PM |
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"Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote in message
news:1175771441.111694.142610@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 5, 6:34 am, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
Rudy's great! I like Romney as well. Any of the 3 Republicans could
easily
beat the likes of Shrillery in a general election.
Doubtful. Bible thumping types would never go for Rudy and they tend
to dominate the primary process. And for different reasons they don't
like McCain. I think some other Repub will jump into the race and get
the nomination. Romney might have a better chance of getting the
nomination, but not such a good chance in the main election.
I said riht up front that bible-beaters won't go for Rudy. I also said that
their influence is ridiculously overstated and that the nomination can be
obtained without them.
I see the Donks have
having no chance, whatsoever.
I think that we have a real chance of seeing the Republican party move
away
from the influence of the evangelicals.
If you have an argument for this position I would be happy to hear
it.
1. Nobody named Cliton or Bush has a snowball's chance in Algore's future
apocalyptically warm earth of winning an election.
2. No Donk has a chance of beating Hildebeast for their nomination.
3. Do the math.
The Reps are in much the position that the Dems were a couple
decades ago. The Dems were trying to be a "big tent" that could
include moderate economically conservative democrates, angry black
types, and militant vegetarian lesbians, etc. at the same time. Now
the Reps have the problem of how to simultaneously please northeastern
moderate republicans and the bible thumping twits of the red states.
Wrongo. You see the Donks are and have been a collection of victim groups
for the last 30 years. They have no real philosophy aside from protest.
Conservatism is much more than whining Christians. Conservatism is about
limited government, lower taxes, personal responsibility, strong defense,
etc. The tent is constructe of different stuff than merely a shelter for
life's victims or those who pretend to be.
IMHO, their influence has been
waaay overstated for decades (the MSM loves to foster this impression),
but
they are too strong within the party nonetheless. I see Rudy's candidacy
as
a genuine opportunity for the Republicans place their emphasis on
security,
the economy, smaller government and the other things that are important
to
conservatives. I am very hopeful that we will take our party back!
It may take Repubs decades to recover from the damage Bush has done to
the party. I don't see how any Repub can find a postion on the Iraq
war that will work.
Wrong again. You believe what you read in the NY Times. Big mistake. Iraq
is looking much more positive and showing signs of becoming what we set out
to make it. The surge is working, AQ is holding on by virtue of
intimidation alone, and the locals aren't liking it. They're siding with
the unified government and the tide is indeed turning. By the time 2008
arrives, Americans will have a very different view of that effort.
By the way the campaigning process is early. I'm not assuming that
the Dem candidate has to be either Hillary or Obama.
You would be foolish to bet on anyone other than Shrillery.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani: Abortion a CONSTITUTIONAL Right! |
05 Apr 2007 10:25:35 AM |
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 06:34:20 -0400, "Fester" <not@home.com> wrote:
"Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1175761201.150207.325230@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 4, 9:21 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
BWAHAHAHA
The GOP primary will be more entertaining than I though.
Someone pass the popcorn.
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/apr/04/r...
"Ultimately, it's a constitutional right, and therefore if it's a
constitutional right, ultimately, even if you do it on a state by
state basis, you have to make sure people are protected," Giuliani
said in an interview with CNN's Dana Bash in Florida's capital city.
Funny that Giuliani, a Republican, has more balls to speak openly
about his progressive stances than most of the Democratic front
runners.
The GOP are in a hard position though. McCain cannot win the popular
election. Romney is the 2-faced liar and an "evol Mormon". And
Giuliani isn't a social conservative.
I guess Romney will take the primaries because he's the biggest liar
and I think the social conservatives want to be lied to more than
anything else.
Rudy's great! I like Romney as well. Any of the 3 Republicans could easily
beat the likes of Shrillery in a general election. I see the Donks have
having no chance, whatsoever.
I think that we have a real chance of seeing the Republican party move away
from the influence of the evangelicals. IMHO, their influence has been
waaay overstated for decades
So if Giuliani flames out in the primary, the influence is then not as
overstated as you think it is?
--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -3 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3258 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
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| User: "Mike" |
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| Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani: Abortion a CONSTITUTIONAL Right! |
05 Apr 2007 03:25:58 AM |
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On Apr 5, 4:20 am, "Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_flem...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Apr 4, 9:21 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
BWAHAHAHA
The GOP primary will be more entertaining than I though.
Someone pass the popcorn.
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/apr/04/r...
"Ultimately, it's a constitutional right, and therefore if it's a
constitutional right, ultimately, even if you do it on a state by
state basis, you have to make sure people are protected," Giuliani
said in an interview with CNN's Dana Bash in Florida's capital city.
Funny that Giuliani, a Republican, has more balls to speak openly
about his progressive stances than most of the Democratic front
runners.
The GOP are in a hard position though. McCain cannot win the popular
election. Romney is the 2-faced liar and an "evol Mormon". And
Giuliani isn't a social conservative.
I guess Romney will take the primaries because he's the biggest liar
and I think the social conservatives want to be lied to more than
anything else.
I am guessing that the Repubs will come up with some other candidate
than McCain, Giulliani, or Romney. Whoever it is will have a hell of
a hard time figuring out exactly how to position himself on Iraq.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani: Abortion a CONSTITUTIONAL Right! |
05 Apr 2007 08:23:02 AM |
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On 5 Apr 2007 01:25:58 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Mike"
<matmzc@hofstra.edu> in
<1175761557.986851.146590@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Apr 5, 4:20 am, "Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_flem...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Apr 4, 9:21 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
BWAHAHAHA
The GOP primary will be more entertaining than I though.
Someone pass the popcorn.
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/apr/04/r...
"Ultimately, it's a constitutional right, and therefore if it's a
constitutional right, ultimately, even if you do it on a state by
state basis, you have to make sure people are protected," Giuliani
said in an interview with CNN's Dana Bash in Florida's capital city.
Funny that Giuliani, a Republican, has more balls to speak openly
about his progressive stances than most of the Democratic front
runners.
The GOP are in a hard position though. McCain cannot win the popular
election. Romney is the 2-faced liar and an "evol Mormon". And
Giuliani isn't a social conservative.
I guess Romney will take the primaries because he's the biggest liar
and I think the social conservatives want to be lied to more than
anything else.
I am guessing that the Repubs will come up with some other candidate
than McCain, Giulliani, or Romney. Whoever it is will have a hell of
a hard time figuring out exactly how to position himself on Iraq.
The only Repub with a ghost of a chance in the general is Fred
Thompson. And, strangely enough, I think that Tommy Thompson has
killed Fred's candidacy: most people won't be able to handle two
people with the same last name.
--
Matt Silberstein
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