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06 Feb 2007 09:54:33 AM |
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?s about informed consent as an ethical guideline |
Q: Is pedophilia immoral?
A: Yes, since a child cannot provide informed consent.
At about what length of time of gestation can a preborn human life
provide informed consent to being killed?
At about what age can a typical born human life start providing
informed consent to:
engaging in sexual activity?
being killed?
Do you think cows can provide informed consent to humans to:
engaging in sexual activity with humans?
being killed by humans?
Do you think this is immoral?:
killing unwanted disabled human life in the absence of the disabled
human life's providing informed consent to being killed.
Do you think this is immoral?:
killing unwanted elderly human life in the absence of the elderly
human life's providing informed consent to being killed.
Do you think this is immoral?:
killing unwanted preborn human life in the absence of the preborn
human life's providing informed consent to being killed.
If a state allows humans killing cows for food, is that OK in your
view?
If a state prohibits humans from killing cows for food, is that OK in
your view?
Do you consider the execution of Saddam immoral?
Do you support killing born human life (without informed consent) for
research purposes?
Do you support giving nearly-lethal diseases and poisons to born human
life (without informed consent) for research purposes?
Do you support killing embryonic human life for research purposes?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
06 Feb 2007 05:46:27 PM |
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Does anyone here think engaging in homosexual activity is a healthy,
wholesome activity?
Dermatological Manifestations of HIV
http://www.hiv.va.gov/vahiv?page=im-1-01
HIV-related skin disease pics
http://dermatlas.med.jhmi.edu/derm/IndexDisplay.cfm?ImageID=1025018273
http://dermatlas.med.jhmi.edu/derm/IndexDisplay.cfm?ImageID=1011172308
Kaposi's Sarcoma pic
http://depts.washington.edu/hivaids/derm/case3/index.html
Skin conditions relating to HIV infection
http://dermnetnz.org/viral/human-immunodeficiency-virus.html
Judson, F.N. 1984. "Sexually transmitted viral hepatitis and enteric
pathogens" _Urology Clinics of North America_ 11(1):177-85. Abstract,
from
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6424296&dopt=Abstract
Hepatitis viruses, enteric pathogens, and anorectal
infections may commonly be transmitted by various
sexual practices. Because of their larger numbers
of sexual partners and sexual practices such as
anilingus and anal intercourse, homosexual men
are at particularly high risk of acquiring hepatitis B,
giardiasis, amebiasis, shigellosis,
campylobacteriosis, and anorectal infections with
Neisseria gonorrhoeae, Chlamydia trachomatis,
Treponema pallidum, herpes simplex virus, and
human papilloma viruses. The evidence for sexual
transmission of these infections as well as their
diagnosis and treatment are discussed.
spread of a quite nasty chlamydia strain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1145045688.509125.221080%40z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
HIV/ AIDS statistics; chlamydia charts & tables
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1150976556.997755.85000%40c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
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| User: "Fred Fazemeier" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
07 Feb 2007 08:38:09 PM |
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<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
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I think you need to *****, you ignorant *****. In every other country
in the world, HIV is a hetero disease. What a fucking hate-monger scumbag.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
08 Feb 2007 03:13:04 PM |
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On Feb 7, 9:38 pm, "Fred Fazemeier" <fredf...@prodigy.net> wrote:
<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:1170805587.674859.269170@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I think you need to *****, you ignorant *****.
"Ignorant" of what?
In every other country
in the world, HIV is a hetero disease.
"In every other country in the world" other than what country?
Holland?
HIV/ AIDS statistics
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1150976556.997755.85000%40c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
What a fucking hate-monger scumbag.
Did you know that there's a new, spreading strain of chlamydia?
spread of a quite nasty chlamydia strain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1145045688.509125.221080%40z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
Did you know that there's a new drug-resistant strain of HIV out
there?
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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06 Feb 2007 09:44:44 PM |
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writes:
Does anyone here think engaging in homosexual activity is a healthy,
wholesome activity?
Hey, look, everyone, it's David Ford's porn collection!
Elf
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
08 Feb 2007 03:29:46 PM |
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On Feb 6, 10:44 pm, "Elf M. Sternberg" <e...@drizzle.com> wrote:
[snip]
You said this a while ago:
"People simply _don't_ turn such fantasies into realities. Malkin's
Rainbow Party Scare 2006 is no more based in reality than the 'satanic
panic' of the 1980s."
8 February 2007
Global child-porn ring busted
by AP and CP
http://calgarysun.canoe.ca/NewsStand/News/World/2007/02/08/3558503-sun.html
VIENNA -- Up to 103 computers in Canada are
among those implicated in a major child-porn ring
involving at least 2,360 suspects from 77 countries.
Austrian authorities uncov[ered] the ring in which suspects
viewed videos of young children being sexually
abused.
Describing the videos, Austrian Chief Insp. Harald
Gremel said: "Girls could be seen being raped, and
you could also hear screams."
He said the children were aged 14 and under.
I could provide a parallel with a Nazi film, involving boys.
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Haeckel and Buchner and a Darwinian, atheistic a-moral climate
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118315214.069039.280490%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
09 Feb 2007 09:59:39 AM |
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writes:
"People simply _don't_ turn such fantasies into realities. Malkin's
Rainbow Party Scare 2006 is no more based in reality than the 'satanic
panic' of the 1980s."
Global child-porn ring busted
Those two ideas are related only in your fetid imagination,
David.
Elf
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| User: "" |
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13 Feb 2007 08:42:47 AM |
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On Feb 9, 10:59 am, "Elf M. Sternberg" <e...@drizzle.com> wrote:
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu writes:
"People simply _don't_ turn such fantasies into realities. Malkin's
Rainbow Party Scare 2006 is no more based in reality than the 'satanic
panic' of the 1980s."
Global child-porn ring busted
Those two ideas are related only in your fetid imagination,
David.
What "two ideas"?
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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07 Feb 2007 08:28:52 PM |
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On 6 Feb 2007 15:46:27 -0800 there was an Ancient
who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
Does anyone here think engaging in homosexual activity is a healthy,
wholesome activity?
So? You should have seen what I looked like during my fight with
Hodgkin's Disease. You want open sores? I had 'em. I also lost my
hair, turned weird colors, bled from every orifce, dropped to 113 lbs
(I'm 6' tall) and was so emaciated that my wife could encircle my
ankle with her thumb and forefinger. And HD is genetic. I guess
being born isn't a healthy, wholesome acivity.
Then there's your bizarre leap from HIV to homosexuality. HIV is a
virus. It doesn't care who or what the host is, so long as it can
reproduce. The vast amjority of HIV+ people in the world are straight
and caught it through heterosexual sex.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "r wiley" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
08 Feb 2007 12:36:18 AM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:qf2ls2dt3jvbsmnoq8id3ffvrthu31vklp@4ax.com...
Then there's your bizarre leap from HIV to homosexuality. HIV is a
virus. It doesn't care who or what the host is, so long as it can
reproduce. The vast amjority of HIV+ people in the world are straight
and caught it through heterosexual sex.
--
Which might be a useful factlet if you are going to Thailand or Kenya.
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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08 Feb 2007 07:09:22 AM |
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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:36:18 GMT, "r wiley" <rawiley@att.net> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:qf2ls2dt3jvbsmnoq8id3ffvrthu31vklp@4ax.com...
Then there's your bizarre leap from HIV to homosexuality. HIV is a
virus. It doesn't care who or what the host is, so long as it can
reproduce. The vast amjority of HIV+ people in the world are straight
and caught it through heterosexual sex.
--
Which might be a useful factlet if you are going to Thailand or Kenya.
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused by
exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't play
favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical statistics,
rather than the ones you pull out of your *****, you'd see that.
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| User: "r wiley" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
08 Feb 2007 12:26:17 PM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message news:h28ms2h2slvc94rmamnh2hgistpadkrbgq@4ax.com...
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:36:18 GMT, "r wiley" <rawiley@att.net> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:qf2ls2dt3jvbsmnoq8id3ffvrthu31vklp@4ax.com...
Then there's your bizarre leap from HIV to homosexuality. HIV is a
virus. It doesn't care who or what the host is, so long as it can
reproduce. The vast amjority of HIV+ people in the world are straight
and caught it through heterosexual sex.
--
Which might be a useful factlet if you are going to Thailand or Kenya.
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused by
exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't play
favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical statistics,
rather than the ones you pull out of your *****, you'd see that.
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| User: "r wiley" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
08 Feb 2007 12:29:01 PM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message news:h28ms2h2slvc94rmamnh2hgistpadkrbgq@4ax.com...
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:36:18 GMT, "r wiley" <rawiley@att.net> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:qf2ls2dt3jvbsmnoq8id3ffvrthu31vklp@4ax.com...
Then there's your bizarre leap from HIV to homosexuality. HIV is a
virus. It doesn't care who or what the host is, so long as it can
reproduce. The vast amjority of HIV+ people in the world are straight
and caught it through heterosexual sex.
--
Which might be a useful factlet if you are going to Thailand or Kenya.
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused by
exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't play
favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical statistics,
rather than the ones you pull out of your *****, you'd see that.
Distraction won't work. The virus is spread by behavior. The primary
behaviors that spread the virus in the industrialized world are:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
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| User: "" |
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08 Feb 2007 02:56:08 PM |
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On Feb 8, 1:29 pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@att.net> wrote:
"John Baker" <n...@bizniz.net> wrote in messagenews:h28ms2h2slvc94rmamnh2hgistpadkrbgq@4ax.com...
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused by
exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't play
favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical statistics,
rather than the ones you pull out of your *****, you'd see that.
Distraction won't work.
Distraction works well for John.
The virus is spread by behavior.
Say it ain't so!!
The primary
behaviors that spread the virus in the industrialized world are:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the not-industrialized world of today, what are the primary means
of transmission of the HIV virus?
In the not-industrialized world of 1990, what were the primary means
of transmission of the HIV virus?
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| User: "r wiley" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
08 Feb 2007 08:03:25 PM |
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<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message news:1170968168.086525.86320@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 1:29 pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@att.net> wrote:
"John Baker" <n...@bizniz.net> wrote in messagenews:h28ms2h2slvc94rmamnh2hgistpadkrbgq@4ax.com...
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused by
exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't play
favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical statistics,
rather than the ones you pull out of your *****, you'd see that.
Distraction won't work.
Distraction works well for John.
The virus is spread by behavior.
Say it ain't so!!
The primary
behaviors that spread the virus in the industrialized world are:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the not-industrialized world of today, what are the primary means
of transmission of the HIV virus?
In the not-industrialized world of 1990, what were the primary means
of transmission of the HIV virus?
I'll leave it to someone planning a trip to Zaire of South Afica to look into
that. For the 99+ % of the readers in these groups who are, and will remain
in the USA, the information above is sufficient.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
08 Feb 2007 08:17:22 PM |
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In News NDQyh.4034$2m6.350@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,, r wiley at
rawiley@att.net, typed this:
<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:1170968168.086525.86320@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 1:29 pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@att.net> wrote:
"John Baker" <n...@bizniz.net> wrote in
messagenews:h28ms2h2slvc94rmamnh2hgistpadkrbgq@4ax.com...
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused by
exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't play
favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical
statistics, rather than the ones you pull out of your *****, you'd
see that.
Distraction won't work.
Distraction works well for John.
The virus is spread by behavior.
Say it ain't so!!
The primary
behaviors that spread the virus in the industrialized world are:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the not-industrialized world of today, what are the primary means
of transmission of the HIV virus?
In the not-industrialized world of 1990, what were the primary means
of transmission of the HIV virus?
I'll leave it to someone planning a trip to Zaire of South Afica to
look into that. For the 99+ % of the readers in these groups who are,
and
will remain in the USA, the information above is sufficient.
Well, then I guess we should be taking steps and enacting laws with support
and encourage long term, monogamous relationships in the gay community, huh?
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| User: "r wiley" |
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09 Feb 2007 02:30:54 AM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message news:SQQyh.25949$X72.18104@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News NDQyh.4034$2m6.350@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,, r wiley at rawiley@att.net, typed this:
<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:1170968168.086525.86320@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 1:29 pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@att.net> wrote:
"John Baker" <n...@bizniz.net> wrote in
messagenews:h28ms2h2slvc94rmamnh2hgistpadkrbgq@4ax.com...
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused by
exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't play
favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical
statistics, rather than the ones you pull out of your *****, you'd
see that.
Distraction won't work.
Distraction works well for John.
The virus is spread by behavior.
Say it ain't so!!
The primary
behaviors that spread the virus in the industrialized world are:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the not-industrialized world of today, what are the primary means
of transmission of the HIV virus?
In the not-industrialized world of 1990, what were the primary means
of transmission of the HIV virus?
I'll leave it to someone planning a trip to Zaire of South Afica to
look into that. For the 99+ % of the readers in these groups who are, and
will remain in the USA, the information above is sufficient.
Well, then I guess we should be taking steps and enacting laws with support and encourage long term, monogamous relationships in
the gay community, huh?
I don't know, maybe. Is the HIV infection rate dropping in the states that recognize
same sex marriages?
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
09 Feb 2007 05:41:07 AM |
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In News 2jWyh.43419$Xq6.14384@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,, r wiley
at rawiley@att.net, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:SQQyh.25949$X72.18104@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News NDQyh.4034$2m6.350@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,, r
wiley at rawiley@att.net, typed this:
<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:1170968168.086525.86320@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 1:29 pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@att.net> wrote:
"John Baker" <n...@bizniz.net> wrote in
messagenews:h28ms2h2slvc94rmamnh2hgistpadkrbgq@4ax.com...
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused
by exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't play
favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical
statistics, rather than the ones you pull out of your *****, you'd
see that.
Distraction won't work.
Distraction works well for John.
The virus is spread by behavior.
Say it ain't so!!
The primary
behaviors that spread the virus in the industrialized world are:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the not-industrialized world of today, what are the primary
means of transmission of the HIV virus?
In the not-industrialized world of 1990, what were the primary
means of transmission of the HIV virus?
I'll leave it to someone planning a trip to Zaire of South Afica to
look into that. For the 99+ % of the readers in these groups who
are, and will remain in the USA, the information above is
sufficient.
Well, then I guess we should be taking steps and enacting laws with
support and encourage long term, monogamous relationships in the gay
community, huh?
I don't know, maybe. Is the HIV infection rate dropping in the
states that recognize same sex marriages?
Couldn't tell you, but I don't think it was ever that high in Massachusetts
(The only state that recognizes same sex marriage) to begin with.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
09 Feb 2007 07:16:45 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:30:54 +0000, r wiley wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message news:SQQyh.25949$X72.18104@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News NDQyh.4034$2m6.350@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,, r wiley at rawiley@att.net, typed this:
<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:1170968168.086525.86320@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 1:29 pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@att.net> wrote:
"John Baker" <n...@bizniz.net> wrote in
messagenews:h28ms2h2slvc94rmamnh2hgistpadkrbgq@4ax.com...
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused by
exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't play
favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical
statistics, rather than the ones you pull out of your *****, you'd
see that.
Distraction won't work.
Distraction works well for John.
The virus is spread by behavior.
Say it ain't so!!
The primary
behaviors that spread the virus in the industrialized world are:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the not-industrialized world of today, what are the primary means
of transmission of the HIV virus?
In the not-industrialized world of 1990, what were the primary means
of transmission of the HIV virus?
I'll leave it to someone planning a trip to Zaire of South Afica to
look into that. For the 99+ % of the readers in these groups who are, and
will remain in the USA, the information above is sufficient.
Well, then I guess we should be taking steps and enacting laws with support and encourage long term, monogamous relationships in
the gay community, huh?
I don't know, maybe. Is the HIV infection rate dropping in the states that recognize
same sex marriages?
The HIV infection rate has been dropping among gays for years now.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential of this kind
of world:.... a world in which oil reserves are controlled
by radicals in order to extract blackmail from the West..."
- George Bush
Wait... oil reserves?
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
10 Feb 2007 04:02:33 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message news:du6dnRTMLKag6VHYnZ2dnUVZ_vbinZ2d@giganews.com...
The HIV infection rate has been dropping among gays for years now.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
Homosexual men were 32% if reported HIV infections in the USA in 2001, 46% in 2002, 48% in 2003,
48% in 2004, and 48% in 2005
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/reports/2002report/table17.htm
http://0-www.cdc.gov.mill1.sjlibrary.org/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/reports/2003report/table17.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/reports/2004report/table17.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/reports/2005report/table17.htm
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12 Feb 2007 09:57:06 PM |
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On Feb 10, 5:02 pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@att.net> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in messagenews:du6dnRTMLKag6VHYnZ2dnUVZ_vbinZ2d@giganews.com...
The HIV infection rate has been dropping among gays for years now.
Yeah, sure, Mark. And Hitler was a Christian.
a claim: Hitler was a Christian
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1131389424.486586.51840%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
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Mark K. Bilbo
Homosexual men were 32% if reported HIV infections in the USA in 2001, 46% in 2002, 48% in 2003,
48% in 2004, and 48% in 2005
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/reports/2002repo...
http://0-www.cdc.gov.mill1.sjlibrary.org/hiv/topics/surveillance/reso...
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/reports/2004repo...
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/reports/2005repo...
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09 Feb 2007 06:55:38 PM |
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:16:45 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:30:54 +0000, r wiley wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message news:SQQyh.25949$X72.18104@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News NDQyh.4034$2m6.350@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,, r wiley at rawiley@att.net, typed this:
<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:1170968168.086525.86320@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 1:29 pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@att.net> wrote:
"John Baker" <n...@bizniz.net> wrote in
messagenews:h28ms2h2slvc94rmamnh2hgistpadkrbgq@4ax.com...
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused by
exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't play
favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical
statistics, rather than the ones you pull out of your *****, you'd
see that.
Distraction won't work.
Distraction works well for John.
The virus is spread by behavior.
Say it ain't so!!
The primary
behaviors that spread the virus in the industrialized world are:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the not-industrialized world of today, what are the primary means
of transmission of the HIV virus?
In the not-industrialized world of 1990, what were the primary means
of transmission of the HIV virus?
I'll leave it to someone planning a trip to Zaire of South Afica to
look into that. For the 99+ % of the readers in these groups who are, and
will remain in the USA, the information above is sufficient.
Well, then I guess we should be taking steps and enacting laws with support and encourage long term, monogamous relationships in
the gay community, huh?
I don't know, maybe. Is the HIV infection rate dropping in the states that recognize
same sex marriages?
The HIV infection rate has been dropping among gays for years now.
No less than data from the CDC say that "You're full of *****, *****":
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/reports/hiv3rddecade/print/chapter4.htm
CDC Home - HIV/AIDS - Reports - HIV Prevention in the Third Decade
Specific Populations. How are they Affected?
Trends among men who have sex with men (MSM)
HIV-related illness and death have had a devastating effect on MSM.
Despite dramatic decreases in AIDS incidence in this population, MSM
continue to account for the largest number of people for whom AIDS is
diagnosed each year. Research suggests that some MSM are less
concerned now than in the past about becoming infected and may be
inclined to take more risks. This trend is backed up by reported
increases in other STDs among MSM in several large US cities and
elsewhere.
AIDS
MSM accounted for nearly half (42%) of all estimated AIDS cases in men
and women (including adolescents) diagnosed in 2003. In that year
alone, 17,969 AIDS cases in MSM were diagnosed, compared with 6,353
cases in men who acquired their infection through injection drug use,
5,133 through sex with women, and 1,877 through having sex with men
and injecting drugs.
HIV
Data from the 25 states with long-standing HIV reporting show that
estimated new HIV diagnoses in MSM declined from 1994 through 1999 and
then began to rise. The increase since 1999 may be the result of more
people being tested, or it may represent new infections. More data are
needed to help explain this increase.
Estimated HIV Diagnoses, by Risk (MSM)
Data reported in 2003 from 41 areas with confidential HIV reporting
indicate that MSM still represent the largest proportion of new HIV
cases among men for which risk is known (46%), compared with IDUs
(11%), men who have sex with women (9%), and MSM who inject drugs
(3%).
Data from the 2004 National HIV behavioral Surveillance (NHBS) system
among young MSM surveyed in 5 US cities show that
* prevalence (number living with HIV at a given point in time) and
incidence (number of new infections over a period of time) of HIV are
high
* many HIV-infected MSM, especially younger and black MSM, are
unaware of their infection
* among MSM with unrecognized infection
o nearly half probably became infected during the past year
o many had not recently been tested because they feared
positive test results
These findings suggest that the HIV epidemic among MSM is continuing
well into the third decade and underscore the need to increase testing
and improve primary prevention practices for MSM.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
09 Feb 2007 04:33:20 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 02:17:22 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News NDQyh.4034$2m6.350@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,, r wiley at
rawiley@att.net, typed this:
<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:1170968168.086525.86320@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 1:29 pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@att.net> wrote:
"John Baker" <n...@bizniz.net> wrote in
messagenews:h28ms2h2slvc94rmamnh2hgistpadkrbgq@4ax.com...
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused by
exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't play
favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical
statistics, rather than the ones you pull out of your *****, you'd
see that.
Distraction won't work.
Distraction works well for John.
The virus is spread by behavior.
Say it ain't so!!
The primary
behaviors that spread the virus in the industrialized world are:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the not-industrialized world of today, what are the primary means
of transmission of the HIV virus?
In the not-industrialized world of 1990, what were the primary means
of transmission of the HIV virus?
I'll leave it to someone planning a trip to Zaire of South Afica to
look into that. For the 99+ % of the readers in these groups who are,
and
will remain in the USA, the information above is sufficient.
Well, then I guess we should be taking steps and enacting laws with support
and encourage long term, monogamous relationships in the gay community, huh?
Of course you can't alluding to same sex marriage because homosexuals
are always pointing out the high divorce rate of among heterosexuals
who are married. Consequently, you can't honestly believe that same
sex marriage is the answer to "encouraging long term, monogamous
relationships in the gay community". So what, exactly, are you talking
about, special earned income tax bonuses for homosexuals to stop
having unsafe anal sex?
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
09 Feb 2007 05:44:30 AM |
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In News 4rios2lvrcufdl6jkkk6q4iksp2vnlesgm@4ax.com,, t.j.forgeti@râlant.org
at t.j.forgeti@râlant.org, typed this:
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 02:17:22 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News NDQyh.4034$2m6.350@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,, r
wiley at rawiley@att.net, typed this:
<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:1170968168.086525.86320@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 1:29 pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@att.net> wrote:
"John Baker" <n...@bizniz.net> wrote in
messagenews:h28ms2h2slvc94rmamnh2hgistpadkrbgq@4ax.com...
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused
by exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't play
favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical
statistics, rather than the ones you pull out of your *****, you'd
see that.
Distraction won't work.
Distraction works well for John.
The virus is spread by behavior.
Say it ain't so!!
The primary
behaviors that spread the virus in the industrialized world are:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the not-industrialized world of today, what are the primary
means of transmission of the HIV virus?
In the not-industrialized world of 1990, what were the primary
means of transmission of the HIV virus?
I'll leave it to someone planning a trip to Zaire of South Afica to
look into that. For the 99+ % of the readers in these groups who
are, and
will remain in the USA, the information above is sufficient.
Well, then I guess we should be taking steps and enacting laws with
support and encourage long term, monogamous relationships in the gay
community, huh?
Of course you can't alluding to same sex marriage because homosexuals
are always pointing out the high divorce rate of among heterosexuals
who are married. Consequently, you can't honestly believe that same
sex marriage is the answer to "encouraging long term, monogamous
relationships in the gay community". So what, exactly, are you talking
about, special earned income tax bonuses for homosexuals to stop
having unsafe anal sex?
So you're saying that since there is about a 50% divorce rate among
heterosexuals, that state recognized same sex marriage would not be
promoting long term monogamous relationships among homosexuals? Even if,
they too, have a 50% divorce rate?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
09 Feb 2007 07:17:39 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:44:30 +0000, Andrealphus wrote:
In News 4rios2lvrcufdl6jkkk6q4iksp2vnlesgm@4ax.com,, t.j.forgeti@râlant.org
at t.j.forgeti@râlant.org, typed this:
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 02:17:22 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News NDQyh.4034$2m6.350@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,, r
wiley at rawiley@att.net, typed this:
<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:1170968168.086525.86320@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 1:29 pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@att.net> wrote:
"John Baker" <n...@bizniz.net> wrote in
messagenews:h28ms2h2slvc94rmamnh2hgistpadkrbgq@4ax.com...
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused
by exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't play
favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical
statistics, rather than the ones you pull out of your *****, you'd
see that.
Distraction won't work.
Distraction works well for John.
The virus is spread by behavior.
Say it ain't so!!
The primary
behaviors that spread the virus in the industrialized world are:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the not-industrialized world of today, what are the primary
means of transmission of the HIV virus?
In the not-industrialized world of 1990, what were the primary
means of transmission of the HIV virus?
I'll leave it to someone planning a trip to Zaire of South Afica to
look into that. For the 99+ % of the readers in these groups who
are, and
will remain in the USA, the information above is sufficient.
Well, then I guess we should be taking steps and enacting laws with
support and encourage long term, monogamous relationships in the gay
community, huh?
Of course you can't alluding to same sex marriage because homosexuals
are always pointing out the high divorce rate of among heterosexuals
who are married. Consequently, you can't honestly believe that same
sex marriage is the answer to "encouraging long term, monogamous
relationships in the gay community". So what, exactly, are you talking
about, special earned income tax bonuses for homosexuals to stop
having unsafe anal sex?
So you're saying that since there is about a 50% divorce rate among
heterosexuals, that state recognized same sex marriage would not be
promoting long term monogamous relationships among homosexuals? Even if,
they too, have a 50% divorce rate?
Funny thing, the one state with actual gay marriage is also the state with
the lowest divorce rate in general.
Save marriage, legalize gay marriage!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
[God explaining the doctrine of free will.]
"In order not to impair human liberty, I will be ignorant
of what I know, I will thicken upon my eyes the veils
I have pierced, and in my blind clear-sightedness I will
let myself be surprised by what I have foreseen."
- Anatole France
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
12 Feb 2007 10:00:22 PM |
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On Feb 9, 8:17 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Funny thing, the one state with actual gay marriage is also the state with
the lowest divorce rate in general.
Details?
Save marriage, legalize gay marriage!
How's that working out in Holland?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
09 Feb 2007 06:45:14 PM |
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:44:30 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News 4rios2lvrcufdl6jkkk6q4iksp2vnlesgm@4ax.com,, t.j.forgeti@râlant.org
at t.j.forgeti@râlant.org, typed this:
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 02:17:22 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News NDQyh.4034$2m6.350@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,, r
wiley at rawiley@att.net, typed this:
<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:1170968168.086525.86320@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 1:29 pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@att.net> wrote:
"John Baker" <n...@bizniz.net> wrote in
messagenews:h28ms2h2slvc94rmamnh2hgistpadkrbgq@4ax.com...
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused
by exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't play
favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical
statistics, rather than the ones you pull out of your *****, you'd
see that.
Distraction won't work.
Distraction works well for John.
The virus is spread by behavior.
Say it ain't so!!
The primary
behaviors that spread the virus in the industrialized world are:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the not-industrialized world of today, what are the primary
means of transmission of the HIV virus?
In the not-industrialized world of 1990, what were the primary
means of transmission of the HIV virus?
I'll leave it to someone planning a trip to Zaire of South Afica to
look into that. For the 99+ % of the readers in these groups who
are, and
will remain in the USA, the information above is sufficient.
Well, then I guess we should be taking steps and enacting laws with
support and encourage long term, monogamous relationships in the gay
community, huh?
Of course you can't alluding to same sex marriage because homosexuals
are always pointing out the high divorce rate of among heterosexuals
who are married. Consequently, you can't honestly believe that same
sex marriage is the answer to "encouraging long term, monogamous
relationships in the gay community". So what, exactly, are you talking
about, special earned income tax bonuses for homosexuals to stop
having unsafe anal sex?
So you're saying that since there is about a 50% divorce rate among
heterosexuals, that state recognized same sex marriage would not be
promoting long term monogamous relationships among homosexuals? ,
Even if they too, have a 50% divorce rate?
Of course I didn't say that, homosexuals DO say that though and you do
at every opportunity. One has to wonder why you homosexuals would want
to tangle yourself in a complicated contract that is, in the words of
many of you, "Doomed to failure". You do know that the first couple,
lesbians of course, to marry in Massachusetts a few short years ago
have already divorced. Add to facts such as that the knowledge that
very few homosexual men marry at all because it puts their inherent
promiscuity in a bind, and you have a pretty bleak future for SSM
solving all your STD problems. It's time for you homofolk to get your
ducks in a row.
I think you would do well to join the other homosexuals who think as
you do for a more in depth discussion of this issue you might join
them at this web site: http://piv.pivpiv.dk/
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| User: "enquiring mind enquiring" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
11 Mar 2007 11:40:17 AM |
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In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
No, aids is spread by any man, homosexual, bisexual or heterosexual
who does not use a condom.
Recreational IV drug use
spreads no disease if the needle is only used by one person or
only clean needles are used.
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Sex with anyone, drug user or not, woman or not, is at risk for AIDS
unless use a clean needle and wear a condom.
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
Most women don't get AIDS from homosexuals because women usually have
sex with heterosexual men who don't like wearing condoms. .
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused
by exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't play
favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical
statistics, rather than the ones you pull out of your *****, you'd
see that.
Distraction won't work.
Distraction works well for John.
The virus is spread by behavior.
Say it ain't so!!
The primary
behaviors that spread the virus in the industrialized world are:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the not-industrialized world of today, what are the primary
means of transmission of the HIV virus?
In the not-industrialized world of 1990, what were the primary
means of transmission of the HIV virus?
I'll leave it to someone planning a trip to Zaire of South Afica to
look into that. For the 99+ % of the readers in these groups who
are, and
will remain in the USA, the information above is sufficient.
Well, then I guess we should be taking steps and enacting laws with
support and encourage long term, monogamous relationships in the gay
community, huh?
Of course you can't alluding to same sex marriage because homosexuals
are always pointing out the high divorce rate of among heterosexuals
who are married. Consequently, you can't honestly believe that same
sex marriage is the answer to "encouraging long term, monogamous
relationships in the gay community". So what, exactly, are you talking
about, special earned income tax bonuses for homosexuals to stop
having unsafe anal sex?
So you're saying that since there is about a 50% divorce rate among
heterosexuals, that state recognized same sex marriage would not be
promoting long term monogamous relationships among homosexuals? ,
Even if they too, have a 50% divorce rate?
Of course I didn't say that, homosexuals DO say that though and you do
at every opportunity. One has to wonder why you homosexuals would want
to tangle yourself in a complicated contract that is, in the words of
many of you, "Doomed to failure". You do know that the first couple,
lesbians of course, to marry in Massachusetts a few short years ago
have already divorced. Add to facts such as that the knowledge that
very few homosexual men marry at all because it puts their inherent
promiscuity in a bind, and you have a pretty bleak future for SSM
solving all your STD problems. It's time for you homofolk to get your
ducks in a row.
I think you would do well to join the other homosexuals who think as
you do for a more in depth discussion of this issue you might join
them at this web site: http://piv.pivpiv.dk/
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| User: "an old fiend" |
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12 Mar 2007 03:38:45 PM |
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http://piv.pivpiv.dk/
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "" |
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12 Mar 2007 03:44:23 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:38:45 -0400, "an old fiend" <mork@morgan.com>
wrote:
just another stalking thread
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: pics of diseases related to HIV infection |
09 Feb 2007 07:00:18 PM |
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In News vnips215t1rur3btr9nljimqn2ghn9f4u5@4ax.com,, t.j.foreti@râlant.org
at t.j.foreti@râlant.org, typed this:
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:44:30 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News 4rios2lvrcufdl6jkkk6q4iksp2vnlesgm@4ax.com,,
t.j.forgeti@râlant.org at t.j.forgeti@râlant.org, typed this:
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 02:17:22 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News NDQyh.4034$2m6.350@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,, r
wiley at rawiley@att.net, typed this:
<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:1170968168.086525.86320@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 1:29 pm, "r wiley" <rawi...@att.net> wrote:
"John Baker" <n...@bizniz.net> wrote in
messagenews:h28ms2h2slvc94rmamnh2hgistpadkrbgq@4ax.com...
In the industrialized world AIDS is caused by:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the "industrialized world", as anywhere else, AIDS is caused
by exposure to the human immunodeficiency virus. It doesn't
play favorites, and if you'd take a look at some actual medical
statistics, rather than the ones you pull out of your *****,
you'd see that.
Distraction won't work.
Distraction works well for John.
The virus is spread by behavior.
Say it ain't so!!
The primary
behaviors that spread the virus in the industrialized world are:
Male homosexual intercourse
Recreational IV drug use
Sex with a male recreational drug user
Birth to an HIV infected mother.
In the not-industrialized world of today, what are the primary
means of transmission of the HIV virus?
In the not-industrialized world of 1990, what were the primary
means of transmission of the HIV virus?
I'll leave it to someone planning a trip to Zaire of South Afica
to look into that. For the 99+ % of the readers in these groups
who are, and
will remain in the USA, the information above is sufficient.
Well, then I guess we should be taking steps and enacting laws with
support and encourage long term, monogamous relationships in the
gay community, huh?
Of course you can't alluding to same sex marriage because
homosexuals are always pointing out the high divorce rate of among
heterosexuals who are married. Consequently, you can't honestly
believe that same sex marriage is the answer to "encouraging long
term, monogamous relationships in the gay community". So what,
exactly, are you talking about, special earned income tax bonuses
for homosexuals to stop having unsafe anal sex?
So you're saying that since there is about a 50% divorce rate among
heterosexuals, that state recognized same sex marriage would not be
promoting long term monogamous relationships among homosexuals? ,
Even if they too, have a 50% divorce rate?
Of course I didn't say that, homosexuals DO say that though and you do
at every opportunity. One has to wonder why you homosexuals would want
One has to wonder why you would think I'm a homosexual, I'm not btw.
to tangle yourself in a complicated contract that is, in the words of
many of you, "Doomed to failure".
Those that feel that marriage is doomed to failure are invited to not
exercise that option. Those that feel that marriage is something they
would wish to have should have the option of doing so. I have personally
been married for over 35 years. Wouldn't trade it for the world.
You do know that the first couple,
lesbians of course, to marry in Massachusetts a few short years ago
have already divorced.
So, are you saying that the second, third, fourth and so on should be denied
civil marriage because the first one failed? Do you measure heterosexual
marriages by that same yardstick?
Add to facts such as that the knowledge that
very few homosexual men marry at all because it puts their inherent
promiscuity in a bind, and you have a pretty bleak future for SSM
solving all your STD problems. It's time for you homofolk to get your
ducks in a row.
My ducks are already in a row. And if marriage promotes even one homosexual
couple to sustain a long term relationship, what is the harm? Those that
wish to be promiscuous and never marry would still be free to do so.
I think you would do well to join the other homosexuals who think as
you do for a more in depth discussion of this issue you might join
them at this web site:
I think your assumption is laughable.
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