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http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=RELIGION-FAITH-05-24-06
Sacred sex in the temple
By TERRY MATTINGLY
Scripps Howard News Service
24-MAY-06
In the beginning, Judaism was a faith built on sacred sex.
At least, that's what Dan Brown told 60 million readers in "The Da
Vinci Code," speaking though a fictional Harvard scholar named Robert
Langdon. And while the characters are fictional, the novelist continues
to affirm the statement that opens his book: "All descriptions of
artwork, architecture, documents and secret rituals in this novel are
accurate."
One of those "secret rituals" is an eye-opener.
"Langdon's Jewish students always looked flabbergasted when he told
them that the early Jewish tradition involved ritualistic sex. In the
temple, no less," wrote Brown, in one of many long speeches that
explain his iconoclastic plot. "Early Jews believed that the Holy of
Holies in Solomon's Temple housed not only God but also His powerful
female equal, Shekinah. Men seeking spiritual wholeness came to the
Temple to visit priestesses ... with whom they made love and
experienced the divine through physical union."
For most people, the big news in "The Da Vinci Code" story was its
message that Jesus was a brilliant and charismatic man _ but not the
Son of God _ who was married to St. Mary Magdalene, had a child and
tried to start a church built on secret truths and goddess worship.
But Jesus was killed and, after a few centuries, powerful men crushed
the Gnostic Christians. Meanwhile, the secret bloodline of Jesus, says
the novel, lived on in Europe.
That's the side of the book, and now the movie, that makes headlines.
But there is a message in the novel that is even more controversial
and, for traditional Christians and Jews, more radical, according to
philosopher Vishal Mangalwadi, who was born and educated in the diverse
religious culture of India.
"The Da Vinci Code" is absolutely right when it states that the
Judeo-Christian tradition, through the ages, did everything that it
could to suppress sexual mysticism, fertility rites and goddess
worship. The early church, he stressed, emerged in a world that was
packed with pagan sanctuaries filled with scores of temple prostitutes.
The Judeo-Christian tradition emphasized the holiness of marriage, but
never taught that sexual intercourse was _ in and of itself _ a sacred
rite in which the spirit escapes the body and is able commune with some
all-embracing deity.
"Dan Brown is right about the following: some pagan converts to Christ
did bring sexual mysticism into the early church," said Mangalwadi, in
a speech he delivered this week at Hollywood (Calif.) Presbyterian
Church. In fact, the Book of Revelation condemns two early churches
that tolerated believers who "practiced religious sex. It is possible
that before becoming Christians these women and men had participated in
prostitution in pagan temples ... .
"Given the fact that Christianity was an ascending religious force,
they may have found it to their advantage to attract customers in the
name of Christ. Some may well have re-written the life of Christ in the
light of pagan spirituality to justify their preferred 'religious'
practice."
In "The Da Vinci Code" itself, Brown stresses that the use of sexual
rituals to create union with the gods and goddesses is older than the
Christian faith and could, he claimed, be seen in Judaism. A one point,
a central character witnesses a modern ritual in which a couple has
sexual intercourse while surrounded by a circle of other members of the
secret society that is preserving the true Christianity.
Thus, Brown's alter ego explains: "Historically, intercourse was the
act through which male and female experienced God. The ancients
believed that the male was spiritually incomplete until he had carnal
knowledge of the sacred feminine. Physical union with the female
remained the sole means through which man could become spiritually
complete and ultimately achieve gnosis _ knowledge of the divine. ...
'By communing with woman,' Langdon said, 'man could achieve a climactic
instance when his mind went totally blank and he could see God.' "
The key is that this experience is the "sole means" for transformation.
This theme is explicit in the novel, even though the movie does not
stress it.
"Dan Brown is promoting a mystic experience in which our mind goes
'totally blank' _ beyond words, thoughts, ideals, beliefs and values,"
argued Mangalwadi. "This is a non-rational experience. Mystics promote
it because they consider the intellect to be the source of ignorance,
not a means to gaining knowledge."
(Terry Mattingly (www.tmatt.net) directs the Washington Journalism
Center at the Council for Christian Colleges & Universities.)
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29 May 2006 07:29:12 PM |
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In article <1148850495.394333.174530@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
soundoftrumpet@hoshmail.com says...
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=RELIGION-FAITH-05-24-06
Sacred sex in the temple
By TERRY MATTINGLY
Scripps Howard News Service
In the beginning, Judaism was a faith built on sacred sex.
One of those "secret rituals" is an eye-opener.
The sacred sex was not a "secret", you fucking dumbass. The bible
frequently refers to Israelites as "whoring after other Gods". Hosea
even marries a temple prostitute. This is not controversial. It's just
that you're a cluess twat, Terry.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Howard Brazee" |
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29 May 2006 08:49:26 PM |
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 18:29:12 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The sacred sex was not a "secret", you fucking dumbass. The bible
frequently refers to Israelites as "whoring after other Gods". Hosea
even marries a temple prostitute. This is not controversial. It's just
that you're a cluess twat, Terry.
For some reason people forget that the Bible mentions other gods, that
Jehovah is to be placed ahead of.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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29 May 2006 07:52:47 PM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, quibbler in episode
<MPG.1ee53fc24fb8a9c29899da@news.readfreenews.net>...
In article <1148850495.394333.174530@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
soundoftrumpet@hoshmail.com says...
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=RELIGION-FAITH-05-24-06
Sacred sex in the temple
By TERRY MATTINGLY
Scripps Howard News Service
In the beginning, Judaism was a faith built on sacred sex. One of those
"secret rituals" is an eye-opener.
The sacred sex was not a "secret", you fucking dumbass. The bible
frequently refers to Israelites as "whoring after other Gods". Hosea even
marries a temple prostitute. This is not controversial. It's just that
you're a cluess twat, Terry.
Damn, now why couldn't Christianity picked up that part? It would have
made church a lot more interesting...
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "quibbler" |
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29 May 2006 08:43:38 PM |
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In article <6rWdnU_v_63CCubZnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@megapath.net>, alt-
atheism@org.webmaster says...
Damn, now why couldn't Christianity picked up that part? It would have
made church a lot more interesting...
Yeah, that would give a whole new meaning to the expression, "Church
sucks". Then again, anything the church does would probably get lame
after a while. You'd probably still wake up on a Sunday morning saying,
"*****, I have to go to another boring church orgy....what a pain in the
*****....literally....."
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "John Baker" |
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28 May 2006 05:35:10 PM |
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On 28 May 2006 14:08:15 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@hoshmail.com> wrote:
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=RELIGION-FAITH-05-24-06
Sacred sex in the temple
By TERRY MATTINGLY
Scripps Howard News Service
24-MAY-06
In the beginning, Judaism was a faith built on sacred sex.
At least, that's what Dan Brown told 60 million readers in "The Da
Vinci Code," speaking though a fictional Harvard scholar named Robert
Langdon. And while the characters are fictional, the novelist continues
to affirm the statement that opens his book: "All descriptions of
artwork, architecture, documents and secret rituals in this novel are
accurate."
What part of "The DaVinci Code is fiction" is beyond the grasp of the
Religious Right?
I wish I had a dollar for every novel that opens with a "this story is
based on fact" blurb. It's one of the oldest literary devices in the
book (pun intended).
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01 Jun 2006 02:48:33 PM |
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John Baker wrote:
What part of "The DaVinci Code is fiction" is beyond the grasp of the
Religious Right?
I wish I had a dollar for every novel that opens with a "this story is
based on fact" blurb. It's one of the oldest literary devices in the
book (pun intended).
The Conservatives/Religious Right also made a big fuss to state that
the file "The Day After Tomorrow" was fiction too.
I think the thing is is that the people behind the RR know that their
control over the populous is based on keeping their followers in
ignorance. And like a corporation defending a trademark, Religious
Groups have to protect their gullible flock from thinking and even
attempting to learn about science.
--
Christians have declared War, lets
http://feedthemtothelions.com/
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| User: "Howard Brazee" |
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28 May 2006 08:48:59 PM |
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On Sun, 28 May 2006 22:35:10 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
What part of "The DaVinci Code is fiction" is beyond the grasp of the
Religious Right?
I wish I had a dollar for every novel that opens with a "this story is
based on fact" blurb. It's one of the oldest literary devices in the
book (pun intended).
Rush Limbaugh got fooled by the disclaimer in _Fargo_. Oddly enough
he watched it at a hotel, missing the first part (with the disclaimer)
until the movie repeated itself - and was still fooled.
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| User: "Terry Cross" |
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28 May 2006 09:47:17 PM |
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Howard Brazee wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2006 22:35:10 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
What part of "The DaVinci Code is fiction" is beyond the grasp of the
Religious Right?
I wish I had a dollar for every novel that opens with a "this story is
based on fact" blurb. It's one of the oldest literary devices in the
book (pun intended).
Rush Limbaugh got fooled by the disclaimer in _Fargo_. Oddly enough
he watched it at a hotel, missing the first part (with the disclaimer)
until the movie repeated itself - and was still fooled.
Pretending, of course, that you could skin a skinned cat, drain an
empty bathtub, or fool an utter fool.
And presuming Limbaugh authors his own opinions.
TCross
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| User: "John Baker" |
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29 May 2006 04:14:24 AM |
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 01:48:59 GMT, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net>
wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2006 22:35:10 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
What part of "The DaVinci Code is fiction" is beyond the grasp of the
Religious Right?
I wish I had a dollar for every novel that opens with a "this story is
based on fact" blurb. It's one of the oldest literary devices in the
book (pun intended).
Rush Limbaugh got fooled by the disclaimer in _Fargo_. Oddly enough
he watched it at a hotel, missing the first part (with the disclaimer)
until the movie repeated itself - and was still fooled.
If Limbaugh's clueless rants are an accurate indication of his
intelligence, I don't imagine fooling him would be much of a
challenge. <G>
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28 May 2006 06:23:24 PM |
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On 28 May 2006 14:08:15 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@hoshmail.com> wrote:
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Michael Edwin Wempe, the pedophile priest whom Cardinal Roger M.
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_Bj=F8rn_Perls=F8?=" |
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01 Jun 2006 04:58:38 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@hoshmail.com> wrote:
In the beginning, Judaism was a faith built on sacred sex.
No surprise; look at the symbol of Judaism - The Star of David:
it is two triangles laid over each other. The upturned one representas a
simple phallus, the downturned one respresent the female mount of venus.
In laying them over each other, they symbolize the unification of the
sexes, the act of sexual intercourse.
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regards, Peter Bjørn Perlsø
http://haxor.dk - http://liberterran.org - http://haxor.dk/fanaticism/ -
http://planetarybillofrights.org/ - http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/
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01 Jun 2006 11:51:22 PM |
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Peter Bjørn Perlsø <peter@DIESPAMMERDIE.dk> wrote in message
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Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@hoshmail.com> wrote:
In the beginning, Judaism was a faith built on sacred sex.
No surprise; look at the symbol of Judaism - The Star of David:
it is two triangles laid over each other. The upturned one representas a
simple phallus, the downturned one respresent the female mount of venus.
In laying them over each other, they symbolize the unification of the
sexes, the act of sexual intercourse.
And the pentacle represents the face of satan.... so, is that why the USA
use it as a logo for their armed forces?
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regards, Peter Bjørn Perlsø
http://haxor.dk - http://liberterran.org - http://haxor.dk/fanaticism/ -
http://planetarybillofrights.org/ - http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/
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02 Jun 2006 05:38:15 AM |
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brique <briquenoir@freeuk.c0m> wrote:
Peter Bjørn Perlsø <peter@DIESPAMMERDIE.dk> wrote in message
news:1hga1rf.1b59qkt6upv4oN%peter@DIESPAMMERDIE.dk...
Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@hoshmail.com> wrote:
In the beginning, Judaism was a faith built on sacred sex.
No surprise; look at the symbol of Judaism - The Star of David:
it is two triangles laid over each other. The upturned one representas a
simple phallus, the downturned one respresent the female mount of venus.
In laying them over each other, they symbolize the unification of the
sexes, the act of sexual intercourse.
And the pentacle represents the face of satan.... so, is that why the USA
use it as a logo for their armed forces?
Where? The only pentagon (not pentacle!) I'm aware of, apart from the
home of the DoD (the building), is the 5 stars the supreme commander
wears on his cap in the of war.
--
regards, Peter Bjørn Perlsø
http://haxor.dk - http://liberterran.org - http://haxor.dk/fanaticism/ -
http://planetarybillofrights.org/ - http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/
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02 Jun 2006 11:02:35 AM |
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:38:15 +0200, (Peter Bjørn
Perlsø) wrote:
brique <briquenoir@freeuk.c0m> wrote:
And the pentacle represents the face of satan.... so, is that why the USA
use it as a logo for their armed forces?
Where? The only pentagon (not pentacle!) I'm aware of, apart from the
home of the DoD (the building), is the 5 stars the supreme commander
wears on his cap in the of war.
Which is why the idiot said "pentacle," i.e., a five-pointed star.
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My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com
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02 Jun 2006 12:21:51 PM |
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Peter Bjørn Perlsø <peter@DIESPAMMERDIE.dk> wrote in message
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brique <briquenoir@freeuk.c0m> wrote:
Peter Bjørn Perlsø <peter@DIESPAMMERDIE.dk> wrote in message
news:1hga1rf.1b59qkt6upv4oN%peter@DIESPAMMERDIE.dk...
Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@hoshmail.com> wrote:
In the beginning, Judaism was a faith built on sacred sex.
No surprise; look at the symbol of Judaism - The Star of David:
it is two triangles laid over each other. The upturned one representas
a
simple phallus, the downturned one respresent the female mount of
venus.
In laying them over each other, they symbolize the unification of the
sexes, the act of sexual intercourse.
And the pentacle represents the face of satan.... so, is that why the
USA
use it as a logo for their armed forces?
Where? The only pentagon (not pentacle!) I'm aware of, apart from the
home of the DoD (the building), is the 5 stars the supreme commander
wears on his cap in the of war.
Pentacle : a five pointed star : Pentagon : a shape with five equal length
sides.
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq2-1.htm
Which shows the various National Aircraft Insignia used by the USA from 1917
to date.
--
regards, Peter Bjørn Perlsø
http://haxor.dk - http://liberterran.org - http://haxor.dk/fanaticism/ -
http://planetarybillofrights.org/ - http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/
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02 Jun 2006 03:04:41 PM |
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brique <briquenoir@freeuk.c0m> wrote:
Where? The only pentagon (not pentacle!) I'm aware of, apart from the
home of the DoD (the building), is the 5 stars the supreme commander
wears on his cap in the of war.
Pentacle : a five pointed star : Pentagon : a shape with five equal length
sides.
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq2-1.htm
Which shows the various National Aircraft Insignia used by the USA from 1917
to date.
Those are 5-pointed stars, not pentacles.
This is a pentacle:
http://members.shaw.ca/bbogdan/blog_images/wicca/pentacle.htm
A pentacle that is filled is a star, but while the are reminscent, they
are not the same.
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regards, Peter Bjørn Perlsø
http://haxor.dk - http://liberterran.org - http://haxor.dk/fanaticism/ -
http://planetarybillofrights.org/ - http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/
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02 Jun 2006 03:58:32 PM |
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Peter Bj=F8rn Perls=F8 wrote:
brique <briquenoir@freeuk.c0m> wrote:
Where? The only pentagon (not pentacle!) I'm aware of, apart from the
home of the DoD (the building), is the 5 stars the supreme commander
wears on his cap in the of war.
Pentacle : a five pointed star : Pentagon : a shape with five equal len=
gth
sides.
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq2-1.htm
Which shows the various National Aircraft Insignia used by the USA from=
1917
to date.
Those are 5-pointed stars, not pentacles.
This is a pentacle:
http://members.shaw.ca/bbogdan/blog_images/wicca/pentacle.htm
A pentacle that is filled is a star, but while the are reminscent, they
are not the same.
If you look down the page on the pentacle site you'll see some
filled-in five-pointed stars. Similarly, while the Star of David is
usually portrayed as two overlaid triangles, it may also be filled
in and is still recognized.
In the Tarot, the suit of Pentacles is the precursor of the suit
of Diamonds in the modern card deck, and is a symbol of
power and money. I can't think of anything more appropriate
for the United States.
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02 Jun 2006 04:25:03 PM |
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wrote:
Peter Bj=F8rn Perls=F8 wrote:
brique <briquenoir@freeuk.c0m> wrote:
Where? The only pentagon (not pentacle!) I'm aware of, apart from t=
he
home of the DoD (the building), is the 5 stars the supreme commander
wears on his cap in the of war.
Pentacle : a five pointed star : Pentagon : a shape with five equal l=
ength
sides.
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq2-1.htm
Which shows the various National Aircraft Insignia used by the USA fr=
om 1917
to date.
Those are 5-pointed stars, not pentacles.
This is a pentacle:
http://members.shaw.ca/bbogdan/blog_images/wicca/pentacle.htm
A pentacle that is filled is a star, but while the are reminscent, they
are not the same.
If you look down the page on the pentacle site you'll see some
filled-in five-pointed stars. Similarly, while the Star of David is
usually portrayed as two overlaid triangles, it may also be filled
in and is still recognized.
In the Tarot, the suit of Pentacles is the precursor of the suit
of Diamonds in the modern card deck, and is a symbol of
power and money. I can't think of anything more appropriate
for the United States.
How about a patch-eye, a wooden leg, and jolly-roger?
TCross
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02 Jun 2006 04:42:44 PM |
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Terry Cross wrote:
How about a patch-eye, a wooden leg, and jolly-roger?
TCross
Given the header on Sacred Sex, "a wooden leg and jolly-roger" is droll
in the context.
Deborah
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30 May 2006 07:10:17 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
Sacred sex in the temple
Does it have to take place in a temple to be sacred?
I've always thought all sex was sacred no matter where it took place,
and that was the reason for my girlfried going "oh god, oh god, ahhhh oh
god...."
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30 May 2006 04:56:14 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
"Langdon's Jewish students always looked flabbergasted when he told
them that the early Jewish tradition involved ritualistic sex. In the
temple, no less," wrote Brown, in one of many long speeches that
explain his iconoclastic plot. "Early Jews believed that the Holy of
Holies in Solomon's Temple housed not only God but also His powerful
female equal, Shekinah. Men seeking spiritual wholeness came to the
Temple to visit priestesses ... with whom they made love and
experienced the divine through physical union."
Ritual prostitution was a facet of some ancient religious practices;
the religion of Israel wasn't one of them. Had it been, the Romans
would have hung out in the Temple precincts instead of the Antonia, and
Tacitus would have had a field day with it.
Ritual prostitution wasn't a feature of 19thC Christianity either. Due,
however, to a prevalent belief that a child conceived on the grounds of
the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, the Ottomans had to station police on
site to deep devout Christian pilgrims from rutting like demented
weasels.
HTH
Deborah
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30 May 2006 05:22:20 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
One of those "secret rituals" is an eye-opener.
"Langdon's Jewish students always looked flabbergasted when he told
them that the early Jewish tradition involved ritualistic sex. In the
temple, no less," wrote Brown, in one of many long speeches that
explain his iconoclastic plot. "Early Jews believed that the Holy of
Holies in Solomon's Temple housed not only God but also His powerful
female equal, Shekinah. Men seeking spiritual wholeness came to the
Temple to visit priestesses ... with whom they made love and
experienced the divine through physical union."
Ritual prostitution was a facet of some ancient forms of worship, but
never that of Israel. Had it been, Roman soldiers wouldn't have stayed
in the Antonia, and Tacitus would have had a field day with it.
Ritual prostitution wasn't practiced by 19thC Christians either. Due,
however, to a prevalent belief that a child conceived on the grounds of
the Church of the Holy Sepulchre would be favoured in life, Ottoman
police were stationed around the precincts to keep devout Christians
from fucking like demented weasels.
HTH
Deborah
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28 May 2006 07:03:15 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=RELIGION-FAITH-05-24-06
Sacred sex in the temple
By TERRY MATTINGLY
Scripps Howard News Service
24-MAY-06
In the beginning, Judaism was a faith built on sacred sex.
At least, that's what Dan Brown told 60 million readers in "The Da
Vinci Code," speaking though a fictional Harvard scholar named Robert
Langdon. And while the characters are fictional, the novelist continues
to affirm the statement that opens his book: "All descriptions of
artwork, architecture, documents and secret rituals in this novel are
accurate."
Repeat after me.
_The da Vinci Code_ is fictional.
_The da Vinci Code_ is fictional.
_The da Vinci Code_ is fictional.
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28 May 2006 07:29:44 PM |
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Josh Miles wrote:
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=RELIGION-FAITH-05-24-06
Sacred sex in the temple
By TERRY MATTINGLY
Scripps Howard News Service
24-MAY-06
In the beginning, Judaism was a faith built on sacred sex.
At least, that's what Dan Brown told 60 million readers in "The Da
Vinci Code," speaking though a fictional Harvard scholar named Robert
Langdon. And while the characters are fictional, the novelist continues
to affirm the statement that opens his book: "All descriptions of
artwork, architecture, documents and secret rituals in this novel are
accurate."
Repeat after me.
_The da Vinci Code_ is fictional.
_The da Vinci Code_ is fictional.
_The da Vinci Code_ is fictional.
Which it doesn't claim otherwise, now doesn't it? Fact is, that the
descriptions of the artwork, architecture, and "secret rituals" (secret
rituals my *****, mystic sex rituals is something I've known of LONG
before I ever read the book, and they ain't all that secret, but other
than that, they exist) are indeed accurate.
Documents; the ones no one (but a possible select few) could ever have
seen at least, can't be accurate of course. But documents that are lying
about for anyone to see, probably are.
None of the artwork or architecture was changed in the description, nor
were any photos of the stuff in the middle of the hardcover
photoshopped. I've seen the artwork before tDVC, and those descriptions
and the depictions are no different from the ones that I saw before I
read the book.
3D Master
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"I've got something to say; it's better to burn out than to fade away!"
- The Kurgan, Highlander
"Give me some sugar, baby!"
- Ashley J. 'Ash' Williams, Army of Darkness
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Author of several stories, which can be found here:
http://members.chello.nl/~jg.temolder1/
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29 May 2006 09:59:29 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=RELIGION-FAITH-05-24-06
Sacred sex in the temple
By TERRY MATTINGLY
Scripps Howard News Service
24-MAY-06
In the beginning, Judaism was a faith built on sacred sex.
At least, that's what Dan Brown told 60 million readers in "The Da
Vinci Code," speaking though a fictional Harvard scholar named Robert
Langdon. And while the characters are fictional, the novelist continues
to affirm the statement that opens his book: "All descriptions of
artwork, architecture, documents and secret rituals in this novel are
accurate."
Like the artwork and the secret rituals are going to sue him
for slander.
Whatever sells books. What I haven't figured out is why the
religious hysteria.
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29 May 2006 11:59:41 AM |
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On 29 May 2006 07:59:29 -0700, wrote:
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=RELIGION-FAITH-05-24-06
Sacred sex in the temple
By TERRY MATTINGLY
Scripps Howard News Service
24-MAY-06
In the beginning, Judaism was a faith built on sacred sex.
At least, that's what Dan Brown told 60 million readers in "The Da
Vinci Code," speaking though a fictional Harvard scholar named Robert
Langdon. And while the characters are fictional, the novelist continues
to affirm the statement that opens his book: "All descriptions of
artwork, architecture, documents and secret rituals in this novel are
accurate."
Like the artwork and the secret rituals are going to sue him
for slander.
Whatever sells books. What I haven't figured out is why the
religious hysteria.
You know, I actually saw the movie with some friends. Our general
opinion was: entertaining, there are some places where you just have
to go with the flow of the movie, and we wouldn't have cast Tom Hanks
in it. But the one thing I don't understand is why, if there are
genetic descendants of Jesus, do they need special protection and
guarding? Apparently, in the last 2000 years they haven't done
anything special, so if you didn't make a fuss of them they would just
fade into the background of general society. And if they can blend
that well, does it matter if they have divine blood? And then I
remind myself, it's just a movie, it doesn't have to make sense.
Rebecca
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29 May 2006 12:41:12 PM |
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wrote:
On 29 May 2006 07:59:29 -0700, wrote:
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=RELIGION-FAITH-05-24-06
Sacred sex in the temple
By TERRY MATTINGLY
Scripps Howard News Service
24-MAY-06
In the beginning, Judaism was a faith built on sacred sex.
At least, that's what Dan Brown told 60 million readers in "The Da
Vinci Code," speaking though a fictional Harvard scholar named Robert
Langdon. And while the characters are fictional, the novelist continues
to affirm the statement that opens his book: "All descriptions of
artwork, architecture, documents and secret rituals in this novel are
accurate."
Like the artwork and the secret rituals are going to sue him
for slander.
Whatever sells books. What I haven't figured out is why the
religious hysteria.
You know, I actually saw the movie with some friends. Our general
opinion was: entertaining, there are some places where you just have
to go with the flow of the movie, and we wouldn't have cast Tom Hanks
in it. But the one thing I don't understand is why, if there are
genetic descendants of Jesus, do they need special protection and
guarding? Apparently, in the last 2000 years they haven't done
anything special, so if you didn't make a fuss of them they would just
fade into the background of general society. And if they can blend
that well, does it matter if they have divine blood? And then I
remind myself, it's just a movie, it doesn't have to make sense.
Rebecca
Particularly, it does not make sense to plead that Jesus was a human
being - and at the same time, claim that his decendants are more than
human.
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30 May 2006 05:06:05 PM |
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Terry Cross wrote regarding "The Da Vinci Code":
Particularly, it does not make sense to plead that Jesus was a human
being - and at the same time, claim that his decendants are more than
human.
Excellent point. And the popularity of this book and movie proves that
many people want to bring God down to their level while exalting man in
place of God.
Btw, the real idea of 'sacred sex' is that the normal sexual union
between man and woman is considered sacred because the partners are as
close as they can be to their original state before the fall when Adam
was divided into man and woman.
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| User: "Mike Schilling" |
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30 May 2006 05:10:49 PM |
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"Linda Lee" <lindagirl444@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1149026765.557755.57140@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Btw, the real idea of 'sacred sex' is that the normal sexual union
between man and woman is considered sacred because the partners are as
close as they can be to their original state before the fall when Adam
was divided into man and woman.
When Adam was what?
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31 May 2006 10:10:02 AM |
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In article <Jp3fg.29907$fb2.9094@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
Mike Schilling <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Linda Lee" <lindagirl444@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1149026765.557755.57140@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Btw, the real idea of 'sacred sex' is that the normal sexual union
between man and woman is considered sacred because the partners are as
close as they can be to their original state before the fall when Adam
was divided into man and woman.
When Adam was what?
Had a woman cloned from one of his ribs, because the original woman,
Lilith, who was _created_ at the same time as Adam, wasn't happy always
being on the bottom in the Missionary position. Golly, doesn't anybody
read the Talmud these days?
-- ***** Eney
Curiosity thrilled the cat
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