Religions > Atheism > Samuel Chase - Another, Christian, American Founder of the U.S.
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19 Jan 2004 01:09:11 AM |
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Samuel Chase - Another, Christian, American Founder of the U.S. |
Samuel Chase
Samuel Chase (1741-1811), who was appointed a Justice on the United States
Supreme Court by George Washington, was also a singer of the Declaration of
Independence and later served as the Chief Justice of the State of Maryland.
In the case of Runkel v. Winemiller, 1799, Justice Chase gave the courts
opinion:
"Religion is of general and public concern, and on its support depend, in
great measure, the peace and good order of government, the safety and
happiness of the people."
"By our form of government, the Christian religion is the established
religion; and all sects and denominations of Christians are placed upon the
same equal footing, and are equally entitled to protection in their
religious liberty." - Runkel v. Winemiller, 4 Harris & McHenry 276,288
(Sup. Ct. Md. 1799). David Barton, The Myth of Separation (Aledo, TX:
WallBuilder Press, 1991), pp. 64, 151. Runkel v. Winemiller, 4 Harris &
McHenry (MD) 429 1 AD 411, 417 (Justice Chase). "Our Christian Heritage,"
Letter from Plymouth Rock (Marlborough, NH: The Plymouth Rock Foundation),
p. 4.
In 1799, a dispute arose over whether an Irish emigrant, Thomas M'Creery,
who had become naturalized as an American citizen, was thereby able to leave
an estate to a relative still living in Ireland. The court decided in
M'Creery's favor based on a certificate executed before Justice Chase:
"Thomas M'Creery, in order to become... naturalized according to the Act of
Assemble... on the 30th of September, 1795, took the oath... before the
Honorable Samuel Chase, Esquire, then being the Chief Judge of the State of
Maryland... and did then and there receive from the said Chief Judge, a
certificate thereof...: Maryland; I, Samuel Chase, Chief Judge of the State
of Maryland, do hereby certify all whom it may concern, that... personally
appeared before me Thomas M'Creery, and did repeat and subscribe a
declaration of his belief in the Christian Religion, and take the oath
required by the Act of Assembly of this State, entitled, An Act for
Naturalization." - M'Creey's Lessee v. Allender, 4 H. & Mett. 259 (1799).
David Barton, The Myth of Separation (Aledo, TX: WallBuilder Press, 1991),
pp. 64.
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| User: "Roy Sinnamond" |
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| Title: Re: Samuel Chase - Another, Christian, American Founder of the U.S. |
19 Jan 2004 09:32:15 AM |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:09:11 +0000, Dr. Jason Gastrich wrote:
Samuel Chase
Samuel Chase (1741-1811), who was appointed a Justice on the United States
Supreme Court by George Washington, was also a singer of the Declaration of
Independence and later served as the Chief Justice of the State of Maryland.
In the case of Runkel v. Winemiller, 1799, Justice Chase gave the courts
opinion:
"Religion is of general and public concern, and on its support depend, in
great measure, the peace and good order of government, the safety and
happiness of the people."
"By our form of government, the Christian religion is the established
religion; and all sects and denominations of Christians are placed upon the
same equal footing, and are equally entitled to protection in their
religious liberty." - Runkel v. Winemiller, 4 Harris & McHenry 276,288
(Sup. Ct. Md. 1799). David Barton, The Myth of Separation (Aledo, TX:
WallBuilder Press, 1991), pp. 64, 151. Runkel v. Winemiller, 4 Harris &
McHenry (MD) 429 1 AD 411, 417 (Justice Chase). "Our Christian Heritage,"
Letter from Plymouth Rock (Marlborough, NH: The Plymouth Rock Foundation),
p. 4.
In 1799, a dispute arose over whether an Irish emigrant, Thomas M'Creery,
who had become naturalized as an American citizen, was thereby able to leave
an estate to a relative still living in Ireland. The court decided in
M'Creery's favor based on a certificate executed before Justice Chase:
"Thomas M'Creery, in order to become... naturalized according to the Act of
Assemble... on the 30th of September, 1795, took the oath... before the
Honorable Samuel Chase, Esquire, then being the Chief Judge of the State of
Maryland... and did then and there receive from the said Chief Judge, a
certificate thereof...: Maryland; I, Samuel Chase, Chief Judge of the State
of Maryland, do hereby certify all whom it may concern, that... personally
appeared before me Thomas M'Creery, and did repeat and subscribe a
declaration of his belief in the Christian Religion, and take the oath
required by the Act of Assembly of this State, entitled, An Act for
Naturalization." - M'Creey's Lessee v. Allender, 4 H. & Mett. 259 (1799).
David Barton, The Myth of Separation (Aledo, TX: WallBuilder Press, 1991),
pp. 64.
Are you cross posting this to alt.atheism merely to regale us with a
history lesson? Or are you proposing some sort of consequences?
Should everyone in the United States live just like the Founders did? What
about those who don't share their (or your) views? Should they be forced
to live like they believe things they do not, simply due to accident of
where they were born? Does this apply to every country equally? (Romans
13:1-4)
If you became absolute ruler of America, what things would you change?
What would you do with people like me?
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Roy Sinnamond
aa #1798 EAC Minister of Cognitive Dissonance
roysinnamond at mac dot com
"That'll put marzipan in your pie plate, Bingo!"
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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| Title: Re: Samuel Chase - Another, Christian, American Founder of the U.S. |
19 Jan 2004 10:13:33 AM |
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If you became absolute ruler of America, what things would you change?
I would step down immediately because, under the law, the US cannot have an
absolute ruler. I'm not particularly a big fan of dictatorship. Of course, most
of the fundies are...or at least support tyranny of the majority and oppose the
principles of a democratic republic.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "dave e" |
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| Title: Re: Samuel Chase - Another, Christian, American Founder of the U.S. |
19 Jan 2004 03:49:36 PM |
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Roy Sinnamond <see@my.sig> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.01.19.15.32.15.311292@my.sig>...
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:09:11 +0000, Dr. Jason Gastrich wrote:
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Are you cross posting this to alt.atheism merely to regale us with a
history lesson? Or are you proposing some sort of consequences?
Should everyone in the United States live just like the Founders did? What
about those who don't share their (or your) views? Should they be forced
to live like they believe things they do not, simply due to accident of
where they were born? Does this apply to every country equally? (Romans
13:1-4)
If you became absolute ruler of America, what things would you change?
What would you do with people like me?
Gastrich supports capital punishment. If you're lucky, he might let
you choose the method of your execution.
Dave
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| User: "stranger" |
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| Title: Re: Samuel Chase - Another, Christian, American Founder of the U.S. |
20 Jan 2004 01:01:27 PM |
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(dave e) wrote in message news:<10ffa4e4.0401191349.28e73d04@posting.google.com>...
Roy Sinnamond <see@my.sig> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.01.19.15.32.15.311292@my.sig>...
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:09:11 +0000, Dr. Jason Gastrich wrote:
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Are you cross posting this to alt.atheism merely to regale us with a
history lesson? Or are you proposing some sort of consequences?
Should everyone in the United States live just like the Founders did? What
about those who don't share their (or your) views? Should they be forced
to live like they believe things they do not, simply due to accident of
where they were born? Does this apply to every country equally? (Romans
13:1-4)
If you became absolute ruler of America, what things would you change?
What would you do with people like me?
Gastrich supports capital punishment. If you're lucky, he might let
you choose the method of your execution.
Dave
I expect he would choose to bore us all to death. I wouldn't worry,
though. It doesn't seem Mr. Gastrich will be achieving significant
power in the near future.
Partial Results of the 2003 Recall Election for Governor of
California:
Larry Flynt Dem 17,458
Gary Coleman Ind 14,242
Jason Alan Gastrich Rep 11
http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2003_California_recall
The people of California have spoken! Porn and bad television join
the Beatles on the list of things more popular than Jesus (at least in
California).
Jason shouldn't get too down about the results. Hitler's political
beginnings were also humble, yet look what became of the lad. Jason
may yet realize his dream of opening "reeducation" camps for atheists.
Christian
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| User: "David Jensen" |
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| Title: Re: Samuel Chase - Another, Christian, American Founder of the U.S. |
19 Jan 2004 11:31:32 PM |
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On 19 Jan 2004 13:49:36 -0800, in free.christians
dgenglish@hotmail.com (dave e) wrote in
<10ffa4e4.0401191349.28e73d04@posting.google.com>:
Roy Sinnamond <see@my.sig> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.01.19.15.32.15.311292@my.sig>...
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:09:11 +0000, Dr. Jason Gastrich wrote:
snip
Are you cross posting this to alt.atheism merely to regale us with a
history lesson? Or are you proposing some sort of consequences?
Should everyone in the United States live just like the Founders did? What
about those who don't share their (or your) views? Should they be forced
to live like they believe things they do not, simply due to accident of
where they were born? Does this apply to every country equally? (Romans
13:1-4)
If you became absolute ruler of America, what things would you change?
What would you do with people like me?
Gastrich supports capital punishment. If you're lucky, he might let
you choose the method of your execution.
I would only execute supporters of capital punishment. Those who have
the humility to understand that our justice system is not perfect should
be allowed to have a better system than those who do not.
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| User: "Brainfried" |
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| Title: Re: Samuel Chase - Another, Christian, American Founder of the U.S. |
20 Jan 2004 07:58:32 AM |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:31:32 -0600, David Jensen wrote:
On 19 Jan 2004 13:49:36 -0800, in free.christians
dgenglish@hotmail.com (dave e) wrote in
<10ffa4e4.0401191349.28e73d04@posting.google.com>:
Roy Sinnamond <see@my.sig> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.01.19.15.32.15.311292@my.sig>...
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:09:11 +0000, Dr. Jason Gastrich wrote:
snip
Are you cross posting this to alt.atheism merely to regale us with a
history lesson? Or are you proposing some sort of consequences?
Should everyone in the United States live just like the Founders did? What
about those who don't share their (or your) views? Should they be forced
to live like they believe things they do not, simply due to accident of
where they were born? Does this apply to every country equally? (Romans
13:1-4)
If you became absolute ruler of America, what things would you change?
What would you do with people like me?
Gastrich supports capital punishment. If you're lucky, he might let
you choose the method of your execution.
I would only execute supporters of capital punishment. Those who have
the humility to understand that our justice system is not perfect should
be allowed to have a better system than those who do not.
Agreed.
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| User: "a#344" |
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| Title: Re: Samuel Chase - Another, Christian, American Founder of the U.S. |
19 Jan 2004 02:28:56 AM |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:09:11 GMT, "Dr. Jason Gastrich" <news@jcsm.org>
wrote:
You are WAY late for a plonking.
"plonk"
Dana W
a#344
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| User: "Gregory A Greenman" |
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| Title: Re: Samuel Chase - Another, Christian, American Founder of the U.S. |
19 Jan 2004 04:25:36 AM |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:09:11 GMT, Dr. Jason Gastrich
news@jcsm.org said...
Samuel Chase
Samuel Chase (1741-1811), who was appointed a Justice on the United States
Supreme Court by George Washington, was also a singer of the Declaration of
Independence and later served as the Chief Justice of the State of Maryland.
Did he have a good voice?
In the case of Runkel v. Winemiller, 1799, Justice Chase gave the courts
opinion:
"Religion is of general and public concern, and on its support depend, in
great measure, the peace and good order of government, the safety and
happiness of the people."
Doc, according to The Encyclopedia Britannica, Samuel Chase
was appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court in 1796 by President
George Washington. Given that, how did he write the decision
for a case decided in 1799 by a Maryland state court?
"...Chase served as chief judge of the Maryland General Court
from 1791 to 1796, when President George Washington appointed
him to the U.S. Supreme Court."
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?eu=23025
(subscription required)
Hey, congratulations on quoting someone who really was a
founder. It's a nice change of pace.
OTOH, I see that Blaise Pascal is now one of America's
Founding Fathers. (Or, was he already on the list?)
http://www.michaelnewdow.com/
Greg the Reprobate
Missionary of Death
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greg -at- spencersoft -dot- com
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| User: "R.Schenck" |
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| Title: Re: Samuel Chase - Another, Christian, American Founder of the U.S. |
20 Jan 2004 03:18:32 PM |
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how about the samuel with the beer
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