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"Bill" |
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18 Dec 2005 07:12:39 PM |
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Saturnalia - Christmas - etc. |
Feasts and festivals. Most of them are of pagan origin.
Secular modernist festivals
Secular modernist festivals are often mixed with previous religious
festivals. May Day, once mainly a springtime fertility festival that can be
traced back to the Magna Mater (Great Mother) festivals of Hellenistic
(Greco-Roman) times,has become a festival of the laboring class in Socialist
countries. Football games in the United States have all the external
trappings of religious festivals. A person from a preliterate culture would
see a large congregation ritual combat, conducted according to precise
ritualistic rules. The participants are dressed in appropriate identifiable
costumes as they engage in their ritual combat-one side representing evil
and the other good, depending upon the viewpoint of the audience. Leading
the congregation are priestesses (cheerleaders) dressed in appropriate garb,
participating in ritualistic dances, and chanting supposedly efficacious
formulas. Operating on the principle of sympathetic magic, the priestesses
attempt to transfer the crowd's enthusiasm to the appropriate combatants. In
Western countries, according to some critics, lay participation in
congregational worship has for a long time been little more than a spectator
sport, and this may well have contributed to the festival character of
weekend sports activities.
Carnivals and saturnalias
Some feasts and festivals provide psychological, cathartic, and therapeutic
outlets for persons during periods of seasonal depression. The HolY festival
of Hinduism during February-March was once a fertility festival. Of early
origin, the HolY festival incorporates a pole, similar to the Maypole of
Europe, that may be a phallic symbol. Bonfires are lit; street dancing,
accompanied by loud drums and horns, obscene gestures, and vocalized
obscenities, is allowed; and various objects, such as colored powders, are
thrown at people.
One of the best-known festivals of ancient Rome was the Saturnalia, a winter
festival celebrated on December 17-24. Because it was a time of wild
merrymaking and domestic celebrations, businesses, schools, and law courts
were closed so that the public could feast, dance, gamble, and generally
enjoy itself to the fullest. December 25-the birthday of Mithra, the Iranian
god of light, and a day devoted to the invincible sun, as well as the day
after the Saturnalia-was adopted by the church as Christmas, the nativity of
Christ, to counteract the effects of these festivals.
Carnival-like celebrations were held in England on Shrove Tuesday, the day
before the Lenten fast began, until the 19th century. Originating as a
seasonal renewal festival incorporating fertility motifs, the celebrations
included ball games that often turned into riots between opposing villages.
Feasts of pancakes and much drinking followed the contests. This tradition
of merrymaking continues, for example, in the United States in the Mardi
Gras festival on Shrove Tuesday in Louisiana.
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| User: "Andrew Nichols" |
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| Title: Re: Saturnalia - Christmas - etc. |
19 Dec 2005 09:14:31 AM |
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:12:39 -0500, "Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
Feasts and festivals. Most of them are of pagan origin.
Can't tell that to these Evangeliccalllllllllllllllllsssssssssssssssss
BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Pass the Offering Buckets)
They don't even worship on the right day. They worship on Sunday,
the day of the sun god Lucifer. Disguised satan worship is still
satan worship
Saturday. I repeat. Saturday. No, I'm not SDA. God hallowed
Saturday way before He gave man the law.
I Repeat. Satuday
Andrew
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| User: "Bull" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Saturnalia - Christmas - etc. |
19 Dec 2005 09:38:21 AM |
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:14:31 GMT, Andrew Nichols
<aperio@frontiernet.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:12:39 -0500, "Bill"
<wmech@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
Feasts and festivals. Most of them are of pagan
origin.
Can't tell that to these
Evangeliccalllllllllllllllllsssssssssssssssss
BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Pass the Offering Buckets)
They don't even worship on the right day. They
worship on Sunday,
the day of the sun god Lucifer. Disguised satan
worship is still
satan worship
Saturday. I repeat. Saturday. No, I'm not SDA.
God hallowed
Saturday way before He gave man the law.
I Repeat. Satuday
Andrew
Saturday was the seventh day. Wasn't it. Since
Sunday is the first day, god supposedly wasn't
resting. Your point is well taken.
Of course, most christians will dispute the fact
that their little satan was a god in many
cultures. In fact, most do seem to worship the
little devil simply by attributing god-like
abilities to him. They seem quite comfortable
believing that the big guy created something
imperfect and now sets back watching him wreck
havoc on the world. Funny bunch, these
christians. Making up all kinds of things so that
they can mold their silly paradigms into something
workable for them.
But, I guess they feel that, it they can quote
their holy book, they'll impress the big fellow
enough to let them through the pearly gates. Into
what, they don't have a clue. (Have you every
heard a description of heaven that would make you
want to spend eternity there?)
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| User: "Andrew Nichols" |
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| Title: Re: Saturnalia - Christmas - etc. |
19 Dec 2005 12:55:52 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:38:21 -0600, Bull <BDurham@earthlink.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:14:31 GMT, Andrew Nichols
<aperio@frontiernet.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:12:39 -0500, "Bill"
<wmech@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
Feasts and festivals. Most of them are of pagan
origin.
Can't tell that to these
Evangeliccalllllllllllllllllsssssssssssssssss
BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Pass the Offering Buckets)
They don't even worship on the right day. They
worship on Sunday,
the day of the sun god Lucifer. Disguised satan
worship is still
satan worship
Saturday. I repeat. Saturday. No, I'm not SDA.
God hallowed
Saturday way before He gave man the law.
I Repeat. Satuday
Andrew
Saturday was the seventh day. Wasn't it. Since
Sunday is the first day, god supposedly wasn't
resting. Your point is well taken.
Of course, most christians will dispute the fact
that their little satan was a god in many
cultures. In fact, most do seem to worship the
little devil simply by attributing god-like
abilities to him. They seem quite comfortable
believing that the big guy created something
imperfect and now sets back watching him wreck
havoc on the world. Funny bunch, these
christians. Making up all kinds of things so that
they can mold their silly paradigms into something
workable for them.
But, I guess they feel that, it they can quote
their holy book, they'll impress the big fellow
enough to let them through the pearly gates. Into
what, they don't have a clue. (Have you every
heard a description of heaven that would make you
want to spend eternity there?)
I guess it beats the alternative :O
Yes, Saturday is the name they gave to the seventh day, but God
hallowed it way before He gave Moses the Law. That one law the
pre-flood world had to obey. Just that 1, and they blew it so bad, God
sent a flood, and destroyed everyone but 8 souls.
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