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"desertphile@hot mail. com Desertphile, American Patriot" |
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20 Mar 2005 03:47:40 PM |
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School system sued over teaching occultism |
From The Associated Press, 3/20/05:
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=local&Story=6908169
Family files suit over teacher's religious lessons
The Associated Press
RALEIGH -
A Cumberland County fifth-grader's family sued the county school
system in federal court because her teacher used a Christian text
that preached creationism and encouraged children to proselytize
for Jesus.
The lawsuit was filed Friday in U.S. District Court in Raleigh.
The school system acknowledged in a separate filing that the
allegations were true.
Cumberland County officials said the religious materials that were
employed by the Sunnyside Elementary School teacher wouldn't be
used again.
One lesson the parents objected to said that "God's word tells us
about a kind of odor only Christians have."
Once a judge signs the agreement, the school system could face
federal criminal penalties for violating it.
"We made a mistake," said Cumberland County schools Superintendent
Bill Harrison.
"The only thing we can do is make amends and move on."
In November or December, Ashlee Nicole Smith, a school spelling
bee champion, showed the scent lesson and one other to her
parents, Troy and Mary Jane Smith of Fayetteville.
Principal's response
The suit says that when the parents complained to Principal
Deborah Anderson, she asked, "What's the problem? Don't you and
your family go to church?"
Anderson also told the parents she didn't understand their
objections, because Ashlee earned perfect scores on the
assignments, the lawsuit said.
Anderson promised that the practice wouldn't happen again, but in
February the girl brought home a worksheet that referred to God's
design as the reason why animals were colored to match their
surroundings.
Harrison said Cumberland County schools have a policy, mandated by
federal law, that bars teachers from endorsing any religion.
He said that Kristie Griffiths, the teacher, is a visiting faculty
member from Australia and did not understand U.S. standards.
She bought the text from a Christian publisher with her own money,
he said.
Harrison said the principal did not take the incident seriously
enough and failed to make sure the teacher stopped using the text.
Anderson declined to comment, and Griffiths could not be reached.
The teacher and the principal are still at Sunnyside, and Harrison
wouldn't comment on what discipline they might face.
Jon Sasser, the Raleigh lawyer who represents the Smith family,
said the parents filed suit because they wanted to make sure the
practice didn't happen again.
He said the Smiths, who also couldn't be reached for comment,
believe strongly in the separation of church in state.
"Ashlee's a fifth-grader, and she realized this was wrong," Sasser
said.
"This is light years beyond an invocation at a graduation or a
moment of silence at a football game. When you're proselytizing
fifth-graders, it's way over the top."
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| User: "PlanetEarth" |
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| Title: Re: School system sued over teaching occultism |
21 Mar 2005 02:40:37 AM |
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<desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot)> wrote in message
news:3a5k8sF67od0tU3@individual.net...
From The Associated Press, 3/20/05:
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=local&Story=6908169
Family files suit over teacher's religious lessons
The Associated Press
RALEIGH -
A Cumberland County fifth-grader's family sued the county school
system in federal court because her teacher used a Christian text
that preached creationism and encouraged children to proselytize
for Jesus.
This teacher should be given severe jail time for abusing children.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: School system sued over teaching occultism |
20 Mar 2005 04:32:32 PM |
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desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote:
From The Associated Press, 3/20/05:
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=local&Story=6908169
Family files suit over teacher's religious lessons
The Associated Press
RALEIGH -
A Cumberland County fifth-grader's family sued the county school
system in federal court because her teacher used a Christian text
that preached creationism and encouraged children to proselytize
for Jesus.
Good FUCKING grief! These Christian cultists don't give a damn about
the laws of this country -- or about science and reason.
I hope they nail this teacher to a cross, fucking cultist criminals.
The lawsuit was filed Friday in U.S. District Court in Raleigh.
The school system acknowledged in a separate filing that the
allegations were true.
Cumberland County officials said the religious materials that were
employed by the Sunnyside Elementary School teacher wouldn't be
used again.
One lesson the parents objected to said that "God's word tells us
about a kind of odor only Christians have."
Once a judge signs the agreement, the school system could face
federal criminal penalties for violating it.
"We made a mistake," said Cumberland County schools Superintendent
Bill Harrison.
"The only thing we can do is make amends and move on."
In November or December, Ashlee Nicole Smith, a school spelling
bee champion, showed the scent lesson and one other to her
parents, Troy and Mary Jane Smith of Fayetteville.
Principal's response
The suit says that when the parents complained to Principal
Deborah Anderson, she asked, "What's the problem? Don't you and
your family go to church?"
Anderson also told the parents she didn't understand their
objections, because Ashlee earned perfect scores on the
assignments, the lawsuit said.
Anderson promised that the practice wouldn't happen again, but in
February the girl brought home a worksheet that referred to God's
design as the reason why animals were colored to match their
surroundings.
Harrison said Cumberland County schools have a policy, mandated by
federal law, that bars teachers from endorsing any religion.
He said that Kristie Griffiths, the teacher, is a visiting faculty
member from Australia and did not understand U.S. standards.
She bought the text from a Christian publisher with her own money,
he said.
Harrison said the principal did not take the incident seriously
enough and failed to make sure the teacher stopped using the text.
Anderson declined to comment, and Griffiths could not be reached.
The teacher and the principal are still at Sunnyside, and Harrison
wouldn't comment on what discipline they might face.
Jon Sasser, the Raleigh lawyer who represents the Smith family,
said the parents filed suit because they wanted to make sure the
practice didn't happen again.
He said the Smiths, who also couldn't be reached for comment,
believe strongly in the separation of church in state.
"Ashlee's a fifth-grader, and she realized this was wrong," Sasser
said.
"This is light years beyond an invocation at a graduation or a
moment of silence at a football game. When you're proselytizing
fifth-graders, it's way over the top."
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strangled with the entrails of the last Pentagon chief of staff." --
Edward Abbey
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| User: "desertphile@hot mail. com Desertphile, American Patriot" |
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20 Mar 2005 09:11:09 PM |
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:32:32 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote:
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=local&Story=6908169
A Cumberland County fifth-grader's family sued the county school
system in federal court because her teacher used a Christian text
that preached creationism and encouraged children to proselytize
for Jesus.
Good FUCKING grief! These Christian cultists don't give a damn about
the laws of this country -- or about science and reason.
I hope they nail this teacher to a cross, fucking cultist criminals.
The "teacher" (I use the term loosely) at the very least requires
some remedial education. It is a fine tribute to Ashley's parents
that Ashley knew her "teacher" was telling her and her classmates
lies and falsehoods.
What really annoys me is that the school's principal failed to
understand why Ashley and her parents objected to occult
indoctrination: "Don't you go to church?" he asked, as if only
people who do not attend church would object! Sheeeish.
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"Truth is merely common sense, say the naive realist. Really? Then
where, precisely, is the location of -- a rainbow? In the air? In the eye?
In between? Or somewhere else?" -- Edward Abbey
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: School system sued over teaching occultism |
21 Mar 2005 11:12:55 PM |
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<desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot)> wrote in message
news:3a677fF6733u7U1@individual.net...
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:32:32 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote:
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=local&Story=6908169
A Cumberland County fifth-grader's family sued the county school
system in federal court because her teacher used a Christian text
that preached creationism and encouraged children to proselytize
for Jesus.
Good FUCKING grief! These Christian cultists don't give a damn about
the laws of this country -- or about science and reason.
I hope they nail this teacher to a cross, fucking cultist criminals.
The "teacher" (I use the term loosely) at the very least requires
some remedial education. It is a fine tribute to Ashley's parents
that Ashley knew her "teacher" was telling her and her classmates
lies and falsehoods.
What really annoys me is that the school's principal failed to
understand why Ashley and her parents objected to occult
indoctrination: "Don't you go to church?" he asked, as if only
people who do not attend church would object! Sheeeish.
http://lastliberal.org
Free random & sequential signature changer http://holysmoke.org/sig
"Truth is merely common sense, say the naive realist. Really? Then
where, precisely, is the location of -- a rainbow? In the air? In the eye?
In between? Or somewhere else?" -- Edward Abbey
How come you never post anything but complaints? Isn't there anything in
your life worth praising and worshipping, advocating and promoting?
I suggest you take the hand of Jesus and let Him lead you up and out
into the light of day. At least then you will have a plenty of reasons to
praise and worship, instead of to complain incessantly.
Pastor Frank
THE MANDATE OF JESUS
**Jesus in Lk:4:18: The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath
anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the
broken-hearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of
sight to the blind.
**Jesus in Mk:2:17: When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are
whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to
call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
**Jesus in Lk:9:56: For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives,
but to save them.
**Jesus Mt:18:11: For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
**Jesus in Jn:12:47: And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge
him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
**Jesus in Mt:11:28-30 "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened,
and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am
gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my
yoke is easy and my burden is light."
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: School system sued over teaching occultism |
23 Mar 2005 02:41:07 AM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote:
<desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot)> wrote in message
Good FUCKING grief! These Christian cultists don't give a damn about
the laws of this country -- or about science and reason.
I hope they nail this teacher to a cross, fucking cultist criminals.
How come you never post anything but complaints?
Once cultists start obeying the laws of this country, watch the number
of complaints decrease significantly.
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Scientology murder: http://PerkinsTragedy.org
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| User: "Virgil" |
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22 Mar 2005 05:21:36 AM |
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In article <1111463379.8f1db74e1a37c15d79956d4fc03cd88a@teranews>,
"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.com> wrote:
<desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot)> wrote in message
news:3a677fF6733u7U1@individual.net...
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:32:32 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote:
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=local&Story=6908169
A Cumberland County fifth-grader's family sued the county school
system in federal court because her teacher used a Christian text
that preached creationism and encouraged children to proselytize
for Jesus.
Good FUCKING grief! These Christian cultists don't give a damn about
the laws of this country -- or about science and reason.
I hope they nail this teacher to a cross, fucking cultist criminals.
At least metaphorically. To do it actually is probably illegal.
The "teacher" (I use the term loosely) at the very least requires
some remedial education. It is a fine tribute to Ashley's parents
that Ashley knew her "teacher" was telling her and her classmates
lies and falsehoods.
What really annoys me is that the school's principal failed to
understand why Ashley and her parents objected to occult
indoctrination: "Don't you go to church?" he asked, as if only
people who do not attend church would object! Sheeeish.
http://lastliberal.org
Free random & sequential signature changer http://holysmoke.org/sig
"Truth is merely common sense, say the naive realist. Really? Then
where, precisely, is the location of -- a rainbow? In the air? In the eye?
In between? Or somewhere else?" -- Edward Abbey
How come you never post anything but complaints?
When something ought to be complained about, only the immoral are silent.
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| User: "desertphile@hot mail. com Desertphile, American Patriot" |
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22 Mar 2005 03:33:56 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:12:55 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
<PF@christfirst.com> wrote:
How come you never post anything but complaints?
How come you never post anything but insane rants?
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"I would never betray a friend to serve a cause. Never reject a friend to
help an institution. Great nations may fall in ruin before I would sell a
friend to save them." -- Edward Abbey
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| User: "wcb" |
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22 Mar 2005 07:57:45 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
<desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot)> wrote in
message news:3a677fF6733u7U1@individual.net...
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:32:32 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote:
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=local&Story=6908169
A Cumberland County fifth-grader's family sued the county school
system in federal court because her teacher used a Christian text
that preached creationism and encouraged children to proselytize
for Jesus.
Good FUCKING grief! These Christian cultists don't give a damn about
the laws of this country -- or about science and reason.
I hope they nail this teacher to a cross, fucking cultist criminals.
The "teacher" (I use the term loosely) at the very least requires
some remedial education. It is a fine tribute to Ashley's parents
that Ashley knew her "teacher" was telling her and her classmates
lies and falsehoods.
What really annoys me is that the school's principal failed to
understand why Ashley and her parents objected to occult
indoctrination: "Don't you go to church?" he asked, as if only
people who do not attend church would object! Sheeeish.
http://lastliberal.org
Free random & sequential signature changer http://holysmoke.org/sig
"Truth is merely common sense, say the naive realist. Really? Then
where, precisely, is the location of -- a rainbow? In the air? In the
eye? In between? Or somewhere else?" -- Edward Abbey
How come you never post anything but complaints? Isn't there anything
in
your life worth praising and worshipping, advocating and promoting?
I suggest you take the hand of Jesus and let Him lead you up and out
into the light of day. At least then you will have a plenty of reasons to
praise and worship, instead of to complain incessantly.
Pastor Frank
THE MANDATE OF JESUS
**Jesus in Lk:4:18: The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath
anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the
broken-hearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of
sight to the blind.
**Jesus in Mk:2:17: When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are
whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to
call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
**Jesus in Lk:9:56: For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives,
but to save them.
**Jesus Mt:18:11: For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
**Jesus in Jn:12:47: And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I
judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
**Jesus in Mt:11:28-30 "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened,
and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I
am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For
my yoke is easy and my burden is light."
Preaching is off topic in AA.
You Jesus is dead and gone, your god does not exist and provable so and you
are about to get net copped.
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "jwk" |
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24 Mar 2005 12:20:35 AM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
How come you never post anything but complaints? Isn't there
anything in
your life worth praising and worshipping, advocating and promoting?
Not while insane cultists like you are still allowed to run free.
jwk
BAAWA
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| User: "jwk" |
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21 Mar 2005 01:39:45 AM |
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Desertphile, American Patriot wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:32:32 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote:
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=local&Story=6908169
A Cumberland County fifth-grader's family sued the county school
system in federal court because her teacher used a Christian text
that preached creationism and encouraged children to proselytize
for Jesus.
Good FUCKING grief! These Christian cultists don't give a damn
about
the laws of this country -- or about science and reason.
I hope they nail this teacher to a cross, fucking cultist
criminals.
The "teacher" (I use the term loosely) at the very least requires
some remedial education. It is a fine tribute to Ashley's parents
that Ashley knew her "teacher" was telling her and her classmates
lies and falsehoods.
What really annoys me is that the school's principal failed to
understand why Ashley and her parents objected to occult
indoctrination: "Don't you go to church?" he asked, as if only
people who do not attend church would object! Sheeeish.
This is what we get for not paying teachers much and letting the
"School of Education" in every university be the dumping grounds.
Thanks for posting this. It is sure to come up again. Those of us
nearby may have to help these parents out.
jwk
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| User: "LisaKay" |
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21 Mar 2005 09:53:55 PM |
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Before you go skewering all the American teachers, let's remember that
this teacher is not American.
-LisaKay
aa #2054
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| User: "Bible Studies with Satan" |
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21 Mar 2005 10:07:15 PM |
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The only comfort in any of this is that Schiavo won't know a fucking thing
that's going on. She is an object, not a subject. She is acted upon.
If Bill Frist wanted to test her reflexes by pulling up her gown and raping her
in front of the gathered media, she would not care.
If Tom DeLay wanted to pick her up and dance her around like a puppet, she would
not care. She will never, ever care again.
There is only one caring solution. She must die.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/
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| User: "duke" |
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21 Mar 2005 11:24:27 PM |
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:07:15 GMT, Bible Studies with Satan <church@state.org>
wrote:
The only comfort in any of this is that Schiavo won't know a fucking thing
that's going on. She is an object, not a subject. She is acted upon.
If Bill Frist wanted to test her reflexes by pulling up her gown and raping her
in front of the gathered media, she would not care.
If Tom DeLay wanted to pick her up and dance her around like a puppet, she would
not care. She will never, ever care again.
There is only one caring solution. She must die.
So says you of the death squad.
duke
*****
Acts 2
38Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every
one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the
forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive
the gift of the Holy Spirit".
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| User: "Tom" |
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22 Mar 2005 01:43:13 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:nslu319t4si73lkt0k6t634qkls10m2p1j@4ax.com...
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:07:15 GMT, Bible Studies with Satan
<church@state.org>
wrote:
The only comfort in any of this is that Schiavo won't know a fucking thing
that's going on. She is an object, not a subject. She is acted upon.
If Bill Frist wanted to test her reflexes by pulling up her gown and
raping her
in front of the gathered media, she would not care.
If Tom DeLay wanted to pick her up and dance her around like a puppet, she
would
not care. She will never, ever care again.
There is only one caring solution. She must die.
So says you of the death squad.
So says anyone with an ounce of compassion and dignity.
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| User: "Eris" |
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22 Mar 2005 01:20:28 AM |
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:24:27 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:07:15 GMT, Bible Studies with Satan <church@state.org>
wrote:
The only comfort in any of this is that Schiavo won't know a fucking thing
that's going on. She is an object, not a subject. She is acted upon.
If Bill Frist wanted to test her reflexes by pulling up her gown and raping her
in front of the gathered media, she would not care.
If Tom DeLay wanted to pick her up and dance her around like a puppet, she would
not care. She will never, ever care again.
There is only one caring solution. She must die.
So says you of the death squad.
So says Duke who cares not for homeless babies who starve to death.
But a white middle class woman, who is a terrible burden to someone
else, now there is an issue worthy of Dukes attention.
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| User: "Bible Studies with Satan" |
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21 Mar 2005 11:51:25 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:07:15 GMT, Bible Studies with Satan <church@state.org>
wrote:
The only comfort in any of this is that Schiavo won't know a fucking thing
that's going on. She is an object, not a subject. She is acted upon.
If Bill Frist wanted to test her reflexes by pulling up her gown and raping
her in front of the gathered media, she would not care.
If Tom DeLay wanted to pick her up and dance her around like a puppet, she
would not care. She will never, ever care again.
There is only one caring solution. She must die.
So says you of the death squad.
Me and George W. Bush...
If the patient or the person responsible for the health care decisions of the
patient is requesting life-sustaining treatment that the attending physician
has decided and the review process has affirmed is inappropriate treatment, the
patient shall be given available life-sustaining treatment pending transfer
under Subsection (d). The patient is responsible for any costs incurred in
transferring the patient to another facility. The physician and the health care
facility are not obligated to provide life-sustaining treatment after the 10th
day after the written decision required under Subsection (b) is provided to the
patient or the person responsible for the health care decisions of the patient
?
Bush signed this into law in 1999 as Governor.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: School system sued over teaching occultism |
20 Mar 2005 04:14:38 PM |
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in article 3a5k8sF67od0tU3@individual.net, Desertphile, American Patriot at
desertphile@hot mail. com wrote on 3/20/05 10:47 AM:
From The Associated Press, 3/20/05:
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=local&Story=6908169
Family files suit over teacher's religious lessons
The Associated Press
RALEIGH -
A Cumberland County fifth-grader's family sued the county school
system in federal court because her teacher used a Christian text
that preached creationism and encouraged children to proselytize
for Jesus.
The lawsuit was filed Friday in U.S. District Court in Raleigh.
The school system acknowledged in a separate filing that the
allegations were true.
Cumberland County officials said the religious materials that were
employed by the Sunnyside Elementary School teacher wouldn't be
used again.
One lesson the parents objected to said that "God's word tells us
about a kind of odor only Christians have."
I thought it was because they were too impoverished to have decent
plumbing....
Paul
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