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Religions > Atheism |
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"Kevin Hollingsworth" |
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19 Mar 2006 09:55:58 AM |
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Science & Religion |
Science. It is all about research grants and ego. The truth is only
meaningful if it
pays. The universe is a dollar bill with the kind of science we have today.
If religion
as a God of the Gaps then science as no way of filling those gaps. How did
it get derailed?
Ask the Nazis....!
I have one question. What happens once Blogs the Time Traveller as
manipulated the markets enough to get the technology to have his Time
Machine fixed!?
Yes it is manipulation...and just look at all that supercomputing power
being dispersed via games culture. If you wanted a power computational
machine and to stay hidden amongst the natives what better way than to
instigate the manufacture of many machines. I'd stick out like a saw thumb
with this machine in the 80s. Easily capable of the hundreds of tasks
necessary for a novel design project. It can run autocad and mathematica
and collect all mannner of bits of data. With Ebay I can buy almost any
commodity available! John Titor was a joke. The mad scientist working
alone a myth. But whose laughing now-or
should I quote Tom Waits-What's he building in there!
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| User: "Edgar A Pearlstein" |
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| Title: Re: Science & Religion |
19 Mar 2006 12:07:20 PM |
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How do Science and Religion Conflict?
Edgar Pearlstein, Lincoln, Nebraska
The most essential conflict between science and religion is not in
their conclusions--such as evolution, the heliocentric solar system, or the
origin of disease--but in their ways of arriving at their conclusions. The
fundamental disagreement is in "how", rather than in "what".
Religion relies on authority--from a person, book, or tradition--and
its Truth is supposed to be universal and eternal. But in science, the
authority is in the evidence and reasoning, which are always open to
challenge; so science's truth is relative and tentative.
A scientific investigation starts with a question, and tries to reach
a conclusion by finding evidence and applying reason. A theological
investigation, though, starts with a conclusion, and tries to wiggle around
any impediments of evidence and logic in order to justify that conclusion.
To superstitious people, things not understood might be assigned to
the realm of supernatural whims, which to a scientist represents a very
pessimistic outlook. But as things that were once not understood become
understood, this realm gets smaller and smaller. For example, most of us
no longer attribute bad weather and disease to curses, mental disease to
possession by devils, or earthquakes, storms, and eclipses to angry gods.
An interesting item along this line is that Isaac Newton had a small
deficiency between his calculations of the motions of planets and the
actual observations, so he invoked the hand of God. But a century later
the great mathematician Laplace made better calculations with Newton's own
equations and showed that there was no such deficiency.
Strangely, although religious people nowadays don't usually blame the
god for illnesses and other catastrophes, they tend to credit the god for
any relief from these!
It's true that many intelligent people embrace both science and
religion. They seem to compartmentalize their thinking; it's as if they
use different parts of the mind for science and religion, with hardly any
interconnection between those parts. They adopt the comfortable myth that
there isn't, or shouldn't be, a conflict between science and religion.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Science & Religion |
19 Mar 2006 02:20:03 PM |
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that's right.
leopoldo
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Science & Religion |
19 Mar 2006 06:53:08 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:55:58 GMT, "Kevin Hollingsworth"
<kevin.h0llingsworth@ntlworld.com> wrote:
- Refer: <iafTf.6740$KF3.2454@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>
Science. It is all about research grants and ego. The truth is only
meaningful if it
pays. The universe is a dollar bill with the kind of science we have today.
If religion
as a God of the Gaps then science as no way of filling those gaps. How did
it get derailed?
Ask the Nazis....!
I have one question. What happens once Blogs the Time Traveller as
manipulated the markets enough to get the technology to have his Time
Machine fixed!?
Yes it is manipulation...and just look at all that supercomputing power
being dispersed via games culture. If you wanted a power computational
machine and to stay hidden amongst the natives what better way than to
instigate the manufacture of many machines. I'd stick out like a saw thumb
with this machine in the 80s. Easily capable of the hundreds of tasks
necessary for a novel design project. It can run autocad and mathematica
and collect all mannner of bits of data. With Ebay I can buy almost any
commodity available! John Titor was a joke. The mad scientist working
alone a myth. But whose laughing now-or
should I quote Tom Waits-What's he building in there!
Not taking your medication per doctor's advice?
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Science & Religion |
22 Mar 2006 09:35:45 AM |
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:23:08 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:55:58 GMT, "Kevin Hollingsworth"
<kevin.h0llingsworth@ntlworld.com> wrote:
- Refer: <iafTf.6740$KF3.2454@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>
Science. It is all about research grants and ego. The truth is only
meaningful if it
pays. The universe is a dollar bill with the kind of science we have today.
If religion
as a God of the Gaps then science as no way of filling those gaps. How did
it get derailed?
Ask the Nazis....!
I have one question. What happens once Blogs the Time Traveller as
manipulated the markets enough to get the technology to have his Time
Machine fixed!?
Yes it is manipulation...and just look at all that supercomputing power
being dispersed via games culture. If you wanted a power computational
machine and to stay hidden amongst the natives what better way than to
instigate the manufacture of many machines. I'd stick out like a saw thumb
with this machine in the 80s. Easily capable of the hundreds of tasks
necessary for a novel design project. It can run autocad and mathematica
and collect all mannner of bits of data. With Ebay I can buy almost any
commodity available! John Titor was a joke. The mad scientist working
alone a myth. But whose laughing now-or
should I quote Tom Waits-What's he building in there!
Not taking your medication per doctor's advice?
Either that or the medication's no longer effective.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Science & Religion |
22 Mar 2006 06:22:52 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:35:45 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <0mr2225i2u0slhkqe895t96jdlt4edghp9@4ax.com>
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:23:08 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:55:58 GMT, "Kevin Hollingsworth"
<kevin.h0llingsworth@ntlworld.com> wrote:
- Refer: <iafTf.6740$KF3.2454@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>
Science. It is all about research grants and ego. The truth is only
meaningful if it
pays. The universe is a dollar bill with the kind of science we have today.
If religion
as a God of the Gaps then science as no way of filling those gaps. How did
it get derailed?
Ask the Nazis....!
I have one question. What happens once Blogs the Time Traveller as
manipulated the markets enough to get the technology to have his Time
Machine fixed!?
Yes it is manipulation...and just look at all that supercomputing power
being dispersed via games culture. If you wanted a power computational
machine and to stay hidden amongst the natives what better way than to
instigate the manufacture of many machines. I'd stick out like a saw thumb
with this machine in the 80s. Easily capable of the hundreds of tasks
necessary for a novel design project. It can run autocad and mathematica
and collect all mannner of bits of data. With Ebay I can buy almost any
commodity available! John Titor was a joke. The mad scientist working
alone a myth. But whose laughing now-or
should I quote Tom Waits-What's he building in there!
Not taking your medication per doctor's advice?
Either that or the medication's no longer effective.
He should raise the dose to Five shovels-full of anti-psychotics, and
see if that stops the incoherent raving.
If that doesn't do the job, then switch to Warfarin.
--
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Science & Religion |
24 Mar 2006 11:18:13 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:52:52 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:35:45 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <0mr2225i2u0slhkqe895t96jdlt4edghp9@4ax.com>
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:23:08 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:55:58 GMT, "Kevin Hollingsworth"
<kevin.h0llingsworth@ntlworld.com> wrote:
- Refer: <iafTf.6740$KF3.2454@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>
Science. It is all about research grants and ego. The truth is only
meaningful if it
pays. The universe is a dollar bill with the kind of science we have today.
If religion
as a God of the Gaps then science as no way of filling those gaps. How did
it get derailed?
Ask the Nazis....!
I have one question. What happens once Blogs the Time Traveller as
manipulated the markets enough to get the technology to have his Time
Machine fixed!?
Yes it is manipulation...and just look at all that supercomputing power
being dispersed via games culture. If you wanted a power computational
machine and to stay hidden amongst the natives what better way than to
instigate the manufacture of many machines. I'd stick out like a saw thumb
with this machine in the 80s. Easily capable of the hundreds of tasks
necessary for a novel design project. It can run autocad and mathematica
and collect all mannner of bits of data. With Ebay I can buy almost any
commodity available! John Titor was a joke. The mad scientist working
alone a myth. But whose laughing now-or
should I quote Tom Waits-What's he building in there!
Not taking your medication per doctor's advice?
Either that or the medication's no longer effective.
He should raise the dose to Five shovels-full of anti-psychotics, and
see if that stops the incoherent raving.
If that doesn't do the job, then switch to Warfarin.
Gargling Drano suffices.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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