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Religions > Atheism |
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"Desertphile" |
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16 Nov 2005 12:36:52 AM |
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Science books "about devil worship" |
http://randi.org/jr/200511/111105derek.html
[...]
This past week I had one of those encounters that left me very nearly
catatonic with shock and dismay. I went to visit a buddy of mine who,
for reasons I don't need to go into, is currently confined to the
Memphis Mental Health Institute, a bona fide asylum. Incidentally, this
is a state-run facility that actively and forcefully pushes xtianity on
people and gives Bibles to each patient. As he's still functional and
lucid, he asked me to bring him some books. I brought him two novels
- "Choke" and "Fight Club" by Chuck Palahniuk, and three 'science'
texts - Hawking's "A Brief History of Time," Shermer's "Why People
Believe Weird Things," and Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World." I was
forced to leave these at the front desk with the attendants, as I could
not take any items into the visiting room. I had my hour visit time and
returned to the front desk to sign out before departing.
A word about the Palahniuk novels: His main characters, and many
ancillary ones, are crazy. Not wacky or zany or boisterous crazy, I
mean plain ol' psycho CRAZY. (I'm not much into euphemisms.)
"These two books are not allowed," said the desk attendant. I turned
and looked down and saw... the Shermer and Sagan books!!!!!
"What's the problem with them?" I demanded.
"Books about... those subjects are not deemed appropriate."
"NOT APPROPRIATE!!!" I bellowed. "IT'S ABOUT SCIENCE!! How is science
not appropriate??" I grabbed the Sagan book and it fell open to the
"Dragon in my Garage" chapter, my absolute favorite section Sagan ever
wrote. "This is about critical thinking and SCIENCE!!"
By this point the security guard had come over. "Sir, take it up with
the case worker Monday. Until then, they aren't allowed. I'm telling
you to leave now." And with that I felt a light but authoritative grip
on my arm that told me that I was done with this conversation.
Thus I left. I was stung, bitter, and completely brainbroken. By the
time I reached my car, my phone rang. It was my buddy, who was as
incensed about the censorship as I was. What the staff told him, and I
REALLY wish I were making this up, was that the books were about "devil
worship" and that the xtian staff would not allow them in their
presence.
[....]
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| User: "Jesus Sucks" |
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| Title: Re: Science books "about devil worship" |
16 Nov 2005 12:48:16 AM |
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"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132101412.593978.25260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
http://randi.org/jr/200511/111105derek.html
[...]
This past week I had one of those encounters that left me very nearly
catatonic with shock and dismay. I went to visit a buddy of mine who,
for reasons I don't need to go into, is currently confined to the
Memphis Mental Health Institute, a bona fide asylum. Incidentally, this
is a state-run facility that actively and forcefully pushes xtianity on
people and gives Bibles to each patient. As he's still functional and
lucid, he asked me to bring him some books. I brought him two novels
- "Choke" and "Fight Club" by Chuck Palahniuk, and three 'science'
texts - Hawking's "A Brief History of Time," Shermer's "Why People
Believe Weird Things," and Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World." I was
forced to leave these at the front desk with the attendants, as I could
not take any items into the visiting room. I had my hour visit time and
returned to the front desk to sign out before departing.
A word about the Palahniuk novels: His main characters, and many
ancillary ones, are crazy. Not wacky or zany or boisterous crazy, I
mean plain ol' psycho CRAZY. (I'm not much into euphemisms.)
"These two books are not allowed," said the desk attendant. I turned
and looked down and saw... the Shermer and Sagan books!!!!!
"What's the problem with them?" I demanded.
"Books about... those subjects are not deemed appropriate."
"NOT APPROPRIATE!!!" I bellowed. "IT'S ABOUT SCIENCE!! How is science
not appropriate??" I grabbed the Sagan book and it fell open to the
"Dragon in my Garage" chapter, my absolute favorite section Sagan ever
wrote. "This is about critical thinking and SCIENCE!!"
By this point the security guard had come over. "Sir, take it up with
the case worker Monday. Until then, they aren't allowed. I'm telling
you to leave now." And with that I felt a light but authoritative grip
on my arm that told me that I was done with this conversation.
Thus I left. I was stung, bitter, and completely brainbroken. By the
time I reached my car, my phone rang. It was my buddy, who was as
incensed about the censorship as I was. What the staff told him, and I
REALLY wish I were making this up, was that the books were about "devil
worship" and that the xtian staff would not allow them in their
presence.
[....]
I really hope that was a joke.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Science books "about devil worship" |
16 Nov 2005 02:54:31 PM |
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"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132101412.593978.25260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
http://randi.org/jr/200511/111105derek.html
[...]
This past week I had one of those encounters that left me very nearly
catatonic with shock and dismay. I went to visit a buddy of mine who,
for reasons I don't need to go into, is currently confined to the
Memphis Mental Health Institute, a bona fide asylum. Incidentally, this
is a state-run facility that actively and forcefully pushes xtianity on
people and gives Bibles to each patient. As he's still functional and
lucid, he asked me to bring him some books. I brought him two novels
- "Choke" and "Fight Club" by Chuck Palahniuk, and three 'science'
texts - Hawking's "A Brief History of Time," Shermer's "Why People
Believe Weird Things," and Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World." I was
forced to leave these at the front desk with the attendants, as I could
not take any items into the visiting room. I had my hour visit time and
returned to the front desk to sign out before departing.
A word about the Palahniuk novels: His main characters, and many
ancillary ones, are crazy. Not wacky or zany or boisterous crazy, I
mean plain ol' psycho CRAZY. (I'm not much into euphemisms.)
"These two books are not allowed," said the desk attendant. I turned
and looked down and saw... the Shermer and Sagan books!!!!!
"What's the problem with them?" I demanded.
"Books about... those subjects are not deemed appropriate."
"NOT APPROPRIATE!!!" I bellowed. "IT'S ABOUT SCIENCE!! How is science
not appropriate??" I grabbed the Sagan book and it fell open to the
"Dragon in my Garage" chapter, my absolute favorite section Sagan ever
wrote. "This is about critical thinking and SCIENCE!!"
By this point the security guard had come over. "Sir, take it up with
the case worker Monday. Until then, they aren't allowed. I'm telling
you to leave now." And with that I felt a light but authoritative grip
on my arm that told me that I was done with this conversation.
Thus I left. I was stung, bitter, and completely brainbroken. By the
time I reached my car, my phone rang. It was my buddy, who was as
incensed about the censorship as I was. What the staff told him, and I
REALLY wish I were making this up, was that the books were about "devil
worship" and that the xtian staff would not allow them in their
presence.
Damn! Can't he get himself transferred to a different hospital? Is he
christian?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "erikc" |
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| Title: Re: Science books "about devil worship" |
30 Nov 2005 08:18:42 AM |
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:54:31 -0500, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132101412.593978.25260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
http://randi.org/jr/200511/111105derek.html
[...]
This past week I had one of those encounters that left me very nearly
catatonic with shock and dismay. I went to visit a buddy of mine who,
for reasons I don't need to go into, is currently confined to the
Memphis Mental Health Institute, a bona fide asylum. Incidentally, this
is a state-run facility that actively and forcefully pushes xtianity on
people and gives Bibles to each patient. As he's still functional and
lucid, he asked me to bring him some books. I brought him two novels
- "Choke" and "Fight Club" by Chuck Palahniuk, and three 'science'
texts - Hawking's "A Brief History of Time," Shermer's "Why People
Believe Weird Things," and Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World." I was
forced to leave these at the front desk with the attendants, as I could
not take any items into the visiting room. I had my hour visit time and
returned to the front desk to sign out before departing.
A word about the Palahniuk novels: His main characters, and many
ancillary ones, are crazy. Not wacky or zany or boisterous crazy, I
mean plain ol' psycho CRAZY. (I'm not much into euphemisms.)
"These two books are not allowed," said the desk attendant. I turned
and looked down and saw... the Shermer and Sagan books!!!!!
"What's the problem with them?" I demanded.
"Books about... those subjects are not deemed appropriate."
"NOT APPROPRIATE!!!" I bellowed. "IT'S ABOUT SCIENCE!! How is science
not appropriate??" I grabbed the Sagan book and it fell open to the
"Dragon in my Garage" chapter, my absolute favorite section Sagan ever
wrote. "This is about critical thinking and SCIENCE!!"
By this point the security guard had come over. "Sir, take it up with
the case worker Monday. Until then, they aren't allowed. I'm telling
you to leave now." And with that I felt a light but authoritative grip
on my arm that told me that I was done with this conversation.
Thus I left. I was stung, bitter, and completely brainbroken. By the
time I reached my car, my phone rang. It was my buddy, who was as
incensed about the censorship as I was. What the staff told him, and I
REALLY wish I were making this up, was that the books were about "devil
worship" and that the xtian staff would not allow them in their
presence.
Damn! Can't he get himself transferred to a different hospital? Is he
christian?
Didn't the Russians do this to thier dissidents? You know, lock them up in
nuthouses and fill them full of drugs until they recanted whatever political
heresey they were in for?
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Science books "about devil worship" |
16 Nov 2005 03:46:26 AM |
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"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://randi.org/jr/200511/111105derek.html
"These two books are not allowed," said the desk attendant. I turned
and looked down and saw... the Shermer and Sagan books!!!!!
"What's the problem with them?" I demanded.
"Books about... those subjects are not deemed appropriate."
Unfucking believable. The hospital needs to lose its license and
needs to be shut down.
---
http://www.ElmerFudd.US/ http://www.rightard.org/ http://www.thedarkwind.org/
Yes, George W. Bush is a mass murdering Christian butcher. GET OVER IT!!!
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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| Title: Re: Science books "about devil worship" |
16 Nov 2005 06:24:03 AM |
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Desertphile wrote:
http://randi.org/jr/200511/111105derek.html
Can you hear the "Sieg heil" chorus from afar? *bangs head on desk*
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove,
And gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer,
And fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Science books "about devil worship" |
16 Nov 2005 08:06:37 AM |
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In article <1132101412.593978.25260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://randi.org/jr/200511/111105derek.html
[...]
This past week I had one of those encounters that left me very nearly
catatonic with shock and dismay. I went to visit a buddy of mine who,
for reasons I don't need to go into, is currently confined to the
Memphis Mental Health Institute, a bona fide asylum. Incidentally, this
is a state-run facility that actively and forcefully pushes xtianity on
people and gives Bibles to each patient. As he's still functional and
lucid, he asked me to bring him some books. I brought him two novels
- "Choke" and "Fight Club" by Chuck Palahniuk, and three 'science'
texts - Hawking's "A Brief History of Time," Shermer's "Why People
Believe Weird Things," and Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World." I was
forced to leave these at the front desk with the attendants, as I could
not take any items into the visiting room. I had my hour visit time and
returned to the front desk to sign out before departing.
A word about the Palahniuk novels: His main characters, and many
ancillary ones, are crazy. Not wacky or zany or boisterous crazy, I
mean plain ol' psycho CRAZY. (I'm not much into euphemisms.)
"These two books are not allowed," said the desk attendant. I turned
and looked down and saw... the Shermer and Sagan books!!!!!
"What's the problem with them?" I demanded.
"Books about... those subjects are not deemed appropriate."
"NOT APPROPRIATE!!!" I bellowed. "IT'S ABOUT SCIENCE!! How is science
not appropriate??" I grabbed the Sagan book and it fell open to the
"Dragon in my Garage" chapter, my absolute favorite section Sagan ever
wrote. "This is about critical thinking and SCIENCE!!"
By this point the security guard had come over. "Sir, take it up with
the case worker Monday. Until then, they aren't allowed. I'm telling
you to leave now." And with that I felt a light but authoritative grip
on my arm that told me that I was done with this conversation.
Thus I left. I was stung, bitter, and completely brainbroken. By the
time I reached my car, my phone rang. It was my buddy, who was as
incensed about the censorship as I was. What the staff told him, and I
REALLY wish I were making this up, was that the books were about "devil
worship" and that the xtian staff would not allow them in their
presence.
[....]
God soaked morons. I hope that I never end up in a place like that.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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