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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Leonard Abbott"
Date: 11 Dec 2007 08:20:11 PM
Object: Science is broken
Science is broken
Judging by the fanatical blind actions of most evolutionists in these
DGs, why would yo think the experts are any different..
I don't compare you with these fanatics,
but most Evolutionists are very closed minded, to the point of
considering anyone that leaves their ranks, they become the enemy..
This is not confined to evolutionists. it is the same in all science
DGs.. I have been ban from several DGs, for disagreeing with the owner..
i believe science has become religion and the followers are religious
fanatics. and their leaders give them what ever they ask for, true or
false as long as it pleases the congregation..
For more than 5 yrs I have preached, ''if all the ice pack in the artic
melted it wold not raise sea levels 1/8 of an inch.''
There are several reasons for this, I will explain later.
CBS in particular scares the hell out of the public, showing ice
fluffing off and falling into the sea..
Here for example is a projection of what will happen to the state of
Florida, if we don't cut back on CO=B2 emissions...
With the opening of the North west passage, and a great deal of the ice
pack melted, God has called their hand. Has the science community
reversed their predictions? No they continue to scare the hell out of
us, still showing the same old junk they have been feeding us for the
last 20 yrs.
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: Science is broken 12 Dec 2007 01:05:33 AM
In article <16449-475F455B-637@storefull-3317.bay.webtv.net>,
(Leonard Abbott) wrote:

Science is broken

I think that your brain is broken. Get it fixed.



--
John #1782
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Science is broken 12 Dec 2007 08:01:25 AM
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:05:33 -0800, johac wrote:

In article <16449-475F455B-637@storefull-3317.bay.webtv.net>,
leonard-abbott@webtv.net (Leonard Abbott) wrote:

Science is broken


I think that your brain is broken. Get it fixed.

It's beyond repair.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“The men the American people admire most
extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men
they detest most violently are those who try to
tell them the truth.”
- H. L. Mencken
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Science is broken 13 Dec 2007 12:08:49 AM
In article <jaidnWy2vZIodMLanZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:05:33 -0800, johac wrote:

In article <16449-475F455B-637@storefull-3317.bay.webtv.net>,
leonard-abbott@webtv.net (Leonard Abbott) wrote:

Science is broken


I think that your brain is broken. Get it fixed.


It's beyond repair.

I think they tried, but they couldn't find it.
--
John #1782
.
User: "Hatter"

Title: Re: Science is broken 13 Dec 2007 07:48:43 AM
On Dec 13, 1:08 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <jaidnWy2vZIodMLanZ2dnUVZ_judn...@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:05:33 -0800, johac wrote:


In article <16449-475F455B-...@storefull-3317.bay.webtv.net>,
leonard-abb...@webtv.net (Leonard Abbott) wrote:


Science is broken


I think that your brain is broken. Get it fixed.


It's beyond repair.


I think they tried, but they couldn't find it.
--

Oh here I went and got the Jewelers Loop and tweezers for nothing!
Hatter
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: Science is broken 14 Dec 2007 12:54:29 AM
In article
<393f98a2-c83d-4887-abe4-f9f214f8d1ac@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 13, 1:08 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <jaidnWy2vZIodMLanZ2dnUVZ_judn...@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:05:33 -0800, johac wrote:


In article <16449-475F455B-...@storefull-3317.bay.webtv.net>,
leonard-abb...@webtv.net (Leonard Abbott) wrote:


Science is broken


I think that your brain is broken. Get it fixed.


It's beyond repair.


I think they tried, but they couldn't find it.
--

Oh here I went and got the Jewelers Loop and tweezers for nothing!

I think you'd need a scanning electron microscope to find that one.


Hatter

--
John #1782
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User: "Ben Kaufman"

Title: Re: Science is broken 14 Dec 2007 11:28:19 PM
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:54:29 -0800, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

In article
<393f98a2-c83d-4887-abe4-f9f214f8d1ac@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 13, 1:08 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <jaidnWy2vZIodMLanZ2dnUVZ_judn...@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:05:33 -0800, johac wrote:


In article <16449-475F455B-...@storefull-3317.bay.webtv.net>,
leonard-abb...@webtv.net (Leonard Abbott) wrote:


Science is broken


I think that your brain is broken. Get it fixed.


It's beyond repair.


I think they tried, but they couldn't find it.
--

Oh here I went and got the Jewelers Loop and tweezers for nothing!


I think you'd need a scanning electron microscope to find that one.


Hatter

The thick skull blocks the electron beam.
Ben
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: Science is broken 15 Dec 2007 12:34:40 AM
In article <cep6m3p94dr3fc6j5amei1916voeevnqiu@4ax.com>,
Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:54:29 -0800, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

In article
<393f98a2-c83d-4887-abe4-f9f214f8d1ac@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 13, 1:08 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <jaidnWy2vZIodMLanZ2dnUVZ_judn...@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:05:33 -0800, johac wrote:


In article <16449-475F455B-...@storefull-3317.bay.webtv.net>,
leonard-abb...@webtv.net (Leonard Abbott) wrote:


Science is broken


I think that your brain is broken. Get it fixed.


It's beyond repair.


I think they tried, but they couldn't find it.
--

Oh here I went and got the Jewelers Loop and tweezers for nothing!


I think you'd need a scanning electron microscope to find that one.


Hatter


The thick skull blocks the electron beam.

We may need to bore a hole. Ayone have a diamond drill, or maybe
something harder?


Ben

--
John #1782
.




User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Science is broken 13 Dec 2007 09:36:18 AM
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:08:49 -0800, johac wrote:

In article <jaidnWy2vZIodMLanZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:05:33 -0800, johac wrote:

In article <16449-475F455B-637@storefull-3317.bay.webtv.net>,
leonard-abbott@webtv.net (Leonard Abbott) wrote:

Science is broken


I think that your brain is broken. Get it fixed.


It's beyond repair.


I think they tried, but they couldn't find it.

Opened him up and a moth flew out...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“The older I grow the more I distrust the familiar
doctrine that age brings wisdom.”
- H. L. Mencken
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Science is broken 14 Dec 2007 12:53:33 AM
In article <HIednfGnVp7vzPzanZ2dnUVZ_oLinZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:08:49 -0800, johac wrote:

In article <jaidnWy2vZIodMLanZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:05:33 -0800, johac wrote:

In article <16449-475F455B-637@storefull-3317.bay.webtv.net>,
leonard-abbott@webtv.net (Leonard Abbott) wrote:

Science is broken


I think that your brain is broken. Get it fixed.


It's beyond repair.


I think they tried, but they couldn't find it.


Opened him up and a moth flew out...

Uh, oh. His IQ is now null.
--
John #1782
.





User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"

Title: Re: Science is broken 11 Dec 2007 09:07:12 PM
Leonard Abbott:

Judging by the fanatical blind actions of most evolutionists in these
DGs, why would yo think the experts are any different..

Aaaaah right, let's just blame the victims.
Reality check: Where are scientists even remotely "fanatic" (aside from a
few outside the mainstream, whom you will find in each and every
sufficiently large group)? Answer: _Only_ in those places where good
science is under constant attack by morontheists (and other idiots) who
don't know ***** about science, therefore lose every time they try to play
by the rules (not that they often try), and thus run to the politicians
"please ban these evil scientists who won't change the rules for me!" and
uneducated masses "don't listen to their damn invincible logic and just
believe me when I say they're eeeeeeebil!!!!1!!!!!".

This is not confined to evolutionists. it is the same in all science
DGs.. I have been ban from several DGs, for disagreeing with the owner..

Of course it has nothing to do with you and your fellow morontheists
babbling unqualified crap and demanding that we take you seriously or even
respect you. Right?
Try entering a football game and insisting that the referee lets you use
your baseball bat. Will you blame the referee of discriminating against you
afterwards? Why not? How is that different from your running into a
discussion not knowing ***** and simply demanding respect and agreement
"just because"?
Not that you'd dare to reply of course. You know you've lost. You'll just do
what every Good Morontheist(TM) does - run away bawling and point at "them
ebil ebilushenists" again for hating you.
And the wheel turns, on and on and on...
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Science is broken 12 Dec 2007 12:44:07 AM
On 12 d=E9c, 03:20,
(Leonard Abbott) wrote:

Science is broken

Judging by the fanatical blind actions of most evolutionists

What's the deal with rightards and their need to invent words?
There is no such thing as an "evolutionist".
There's science. You're free to reject it -as some christian
americans, talibans and other morons do- or to accept it.
.

User: "eyelessgame"

Title: Re: Science is broken 12 Dec 2007 02:04:53 PM
On Dec 11, 6:20 pm,
(Leonard Abbott) wrote:

For more than 5 yrs I have preached, ''if all the ice pack in the artic
melted it wold not raise sea levels 1/8 of an inch.''
There are several reasons for this, I will explain later.

If all the ice in my freezer melted, it would likewise not raise sea
levels 1/8 of an inch.
Please tell us how you'd melt all of the ice in the Arctic but not any
of the ice on Greenland or in the Antarctic.
Or, alternatively, tell us your theory of whether melting the
Antarctic ice would raise sea levels.
eyelessgame
.

User: "sleepykit"

Title: Re: Science is broken 11 Dec 2007 09:24:07 PM
On Dec 11, 7:20 pm,
(Leonard Abbott) wrote:

Science is broken

Judging by the fanatical blind actions of most evolutionists in these
DGs, why would yo think the experts are any different..

I don't compare you with these fanatics,
but most Evolutionists are very closed minded, to the point of
considering anyone that leaves their ranks, they become the enemy..

This is not confined to evolutionists. it is the same in all science
DGs.. I have been ban from several DGs, for disagreeing with the owner..

i believe science has become religion and the followers are religious
fanatics. and their leaders give them what ever they ask for, true or
false as long as it pleases the congregation..

For more than 5 yrs I have preached, ''if all the ice pack in the artic
melted it wold not raise sea levels 1/8 of an inch.''
There are several reasons for this, I will explain later.

CBS in particular scares the hell out of the public, showing ice
fluffing off and falling into the sea..

Here for example is a projection of what will happen to the state of
Florida, if we don't cut back on CO=B2 emissions...

With the opening of the North west passage, and a great deal of the ice
pack melted, God has called their hand. Has the science community
reversed their predictions? No they continue to scare the hell out of
us, still showing the same old junk they have been feeding us for the
last 20 yrs.

pia06666-browse.jpg
Address:http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/grace/pia06666-browse.jpg
Changed:9:25 AM on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 060914-arctic-ice_big.jpg
Address:http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/images/060914-arct=

ic-...

Changed:10:39 AM on Thursday, September 13, 2007

Bad people exist in all walks of life and professions, I will not
argue this case. However, most scientists are just people trying to
put together the facts as they can. With limited time and resources
and often pushed by major corporations, they are searching for
answers. When it comes to major political topics like global warming,
they are in even more of a bind because now, political agendas hinge
on them coming up with certain answers, whether right or not, and
we're all sadly, pathetically human.
In some of the more board topics, like evolution, scientists who
suddenly come out and say something that clearly contradicts what
their peers know to be the most current conclusion, of course they are
going to be in hot water! If I suddenly say the earth is flat, it
won't make it any more round, right? But now the joke's on me because
I'm the one believing in a lie.
As for your generalization that " For more than 5 yrs I have preached,
''if all the ice pack in the artic [sic] melted it wold not raise sea
levels 1/8 of an inch", please do let us know where you think all the
water will go to. It will be interesting to hear what you think will
happen and how it compares with the writings of prominent scientists.
.
User: "Llanzlan Klazmon"

Title: Re: Science is broken 13 Dec 2007 05:18:27 AM
On Dec 12, 4:24 pm, sleepykit <sleepy...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 11, 7:20 pm,

(Leonard Abbott) wrote:



Science is broken


Judging by the fanatical blind actions of most evolutionists in these
DGs, why would yo think the experts are any different..


I don't compare you with these fanatics,
but most Evolutionists are very closed minded, to the point of
considering anyone that leaves their ranks, they become the enemy..


This is not confined to evolutionists. it is the same in all science
DGs.. I have been ban from several DGs, for disagreeing with the owner..=


i believe science has become religion and the followers are religious
fanatics. and their leaders give them what ever they ask for, true or
false as long as it pleases the congregation..


For more than 5 yrs I have preached, ''if all the ice pack in the artic
melted it wold not raise sea levels 1/8 of an inch.''
There are several reasons for this, I will explain later.


CBS in particular scares the hell out of the public, showing ice
fluffing off and falling into the sea..


Here for example is a projection of what will happen to the state of
Florida, if we don't cut back on CO=B2 emissions...


With the opening of the North west passage, and a great deal of the ice=
pack melted, God has called their hand. Has the science community
reversed their predictions? No they continue to scare the hell out of
us, still showing the same old junk they have been feeding us for the
last 20 yrs.


pia06666-browse.jpg
Address:http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/grace/pia06666-browse.jpg
Changed:9:25 AM on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 060914-arctic-ice_big.jpg
Address:http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/images/060914-ar=

ctic-...

Changed:10:39 AM on Thursday, September 13, 2007


Bad people exist in all walks of life and professions, I will not
argue this case. However, most scientists are just people trying to
put together the facts as they can. With limited time and resources
and often pushed by major corporations, they are searching for
answers. When it comes to major political topics like global warming,
they are in even more of a bind because now, political agendas hinge
on them coming up with certain answers, whether right or not, and
we're all sadly, pathetically human.

In some of the more board topics, like evolution, scientists who
suddenly come out and say something that clearly contradicts what
their peers know to be the most current conclusion, of course they are
going to be in hot water! If I suddenly say the earth is flat, it
won't make it any more round, right? But now the joke's on me because
I'm the one believing in a lie.

As for your generalization that " For more than 5 yrs I have preached,
''if all the ice pack in the artic [sic] melted it wold not raise sea
levels 1/8 of an inch", please do let us know where you think all the
water will go to. It will be interesting to hear what you think will
happen and how it compares with the writings of prominent scientists.

In this part he is correct and no scientist would disagree. This is
just Archimedes principle. The melting or formation of floating ice
can make no change to sea level (2nd order density effects aside). Sea
level changes occur when glacial or land based ice sheets melt or
grow.
.


User: "Hatter"

Title: Re: Science is broken 12 Dec 2007 08:15:21 AM
On Dec 11, 9:20 pm,
(Leonard Abbott) wrote:

Science is broken

How can we tell? Well if we use a double blind study measuring outputs
and...DOH!!!

Judging by the fanatical blind actions of most evolutionists in these
DGs, why would yo think the experts are any different..

Ad Hom


I don't compare you with these fanatics,
but most Evolutionists are very closed minded, to the point of
considering anyone that leaves their ranks, they become the enemy..

Ad Hom. Circular reasoning.


This is not confined to evolutionists. it is the same in all science
DGs.. I have been ban from several DGs, for disagreeing with the owner..

Sceince DG being proponents of Science. You acted like an *****, like
you are doing here, and they got tired of your BS.
Guess what, if I espoused Atheism in a Catholic DG, I would expect to
be treated with disrespect and booted. It would be an expected
response. I would not go wining about it to another Catholic DG
because I have some intelligence and self respect.
By your actions, You do not share in those qualities.

i believe science has become religion and the followers are religious
fanatics. and their leaders give them what ever they ask for, true or
false as long as it pleases the congregation..

LISTEN UP YOU PRIMITIVE SCREWHEAD...SCIENCE IS NOT A RELIGION

For more than 5 yrs I have preached, ''if all the ice pack in the artic
melted it wold not raise sea levels 1/8 of an inch.''
There are several reasons for this, I will explain later.

And you would be...wrong.

CBS in particular scares the hell out of the public, showing ice
fluffing off and falling into the sea..

Here for example is a projection of what will happen to the state of
Florida, if we don't cut back on CO=B2 emissions...

With the opening of the North west passage, and a great deal of the ice
pack melted, God has called their hand. Has the science community
reversed their predictions? No they continue to scare the hell out of
us, still showing the same old junk they have been feeding us for the
last 20 yrs.

Global Warming is a complex issue. Some scientist are being alarmist,
to be sure.
But prehaps, when the nearly irreversible fate of the planet hangs in
the balance, perhaps a touch of caution is called for. MKAY?
Hatter
.

User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: Science is broken 11 Dec 2007 11:39:18 PM
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:20:11 -0600,
(Leonard
Abbott) wrote:

Science is broken

Science is fine, dickweed. Your brain is broken.
.

User: "Liz"

Title: Re: Science is broken 11 Dec 2007 09:53:21 PM
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:20:11 -0600,
(Leonard
Abbott) wrote:
[----]

i believe science has become religion and the followers are religious
fanatics. and their leaders give them what ever they ask for, true or
false as long as it pleases the congregation..

I imagine you believe all sorts of strange and fantastical things.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Many...freely confess that they believe what it makes them
feel good to believe. Evidence doesn't play much of a role.
They are alleviating their fear of randomness by identifying
regularities that are not there. - Murray Gell-Mann
.

User: "Ben Kaufman"

Title: Re: Science is broken 13 Dec 2007 07:17:38 PM
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:20:11 -0600,
(Leonard Abbott)
wrote:

Science is broken

<SNIP>
LOL, Webtv users making judgements about science?
Ben
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Science is broken 12 Dec 2007 08:00:25 AM
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:20:11 -0600, Leonard Abbott wrote:

With the opening of the North west passage, and a great deal of the ice
pack melted, God has called their hand. Has the science community
reversed their predictions?

Nobody predicted a rise of sea level from the melting of Artic ice you
moron.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
.

User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: Science is broken 11 Dec 2007 09:07:57 PM
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:20:11 -0600, in alt.atheism ,
leonard-abbott@webtv.net (Leonard Abbott) in
<16449-475F455B-637@storefull-3317.bay.webtv.net> wrote:

Science is broken

Judging by the fanatical blind actions of most evolutionists in these
DGs, why would yo think the experts are any different..

Ad hom.

I don't compare you with these fanatics,
but most Evolutionists are very closed minded, to the point of
considering anyone that leaves their ranks, they become the enemy..

Ad hom.

This is not confined to evolutionists. it is the same in all science
DGs.. I have been ban from several DGs, for disagreeing with the owner..

i believe science has become religion and the followers are religious
fanatics. and their leaders give them what ever they ask for, true or
false as long as it pleases the congregation..

For more than 5 yrs I have preached, ''if all the ice pack in the artic
melted it wold not raise sea levels 1/8 of an inch.''
There are several reasons for this, I will explain later.

How about the Antarctic? How about the Greenland pack?

CBS in particular scares the hell out of the public, showing ice
fluffing off and falling into the sea..

Here for example is a projection of what will happen to the state of
Florida, if we don't cut back on CO emissions...

With the opening of the North west passage, and a great deal of the ice
pack melted, God has called their hand. Has the science community
reversed their predictions? No they continue to scare the hell out of
us, still showing the same old junk they have been feeding us for the
last 20 yrs.

pia06666-browse.jpg
Address:http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/grace/pia06666-browse.jpg
Changed:9:25 AM on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 060914-arctic-ice_big.jpg
Address:http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/images/060914-arctic-ice_big.jpg
Changed:10:39 AM on Thursday, September 13, 2007

--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
.

User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: Science is broken 12 Dec 2007 12:06:13 AM
One fine day in alt.atheism,
(Leonard Abbott)
bloodied us up with this:

Science is broken

Judging by the fanatical blind actions of most evolutionists in these
DGs, why would yo think the experts are any different..

I'm sorry you have to deny reality to support your frail beliefs. But face
it, science trumps religion in one BIG way. It supplies EVIDENCE to
support its theories. Not that religion even has anything resembling a
theory, but nevertheless, got evidence? No, dumbass, all you have is
faith. Sucks to be you.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
.


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