Religions > Atheism > Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <><
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"Leonard Abbott" |
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16 Aug 2007 10:08:04 PM |
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Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <>< |
Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <><
#!, petrified palm trees have been found in Antarctica and as far north
as Canada. Proving the Earth has went through radical climate changes
before mans arrival.
#2.Sea levels have risen, since first life appeared on Earth. light from
the sun and oxygen are turned into algae that all sea life depend on for
food..
All sea life die and settle to the ocean floor, and remain as fossils
or turn into fossil fuel such as petroleum or coal.
This ia an age old process that has made the ocean floor rise more than
4 miles over millions of yrs..
#3.If all the ice in the artic ice pack melted it would not make sea
level rise 1/10,000 of an inch...Ice actually shrinks when it melts
leaving the ocean sea level exactly the same...
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| User: "MooJoo" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <>< |
17 Aug 2007 09:43:12 PM |
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All sea life die and settle to the ocean floor, and remain as fossils
or turn into fossil fuel such as petroleum or coal.
Coal on the ocean floor? Fossils, even! A most exciting discovery, I'd
say.
This ia an age old process that has made the ocean floor rise more than
4 miles over millions of yrs..
I thought you whack jobs believed the Earth was 6000 years old.
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <>< |
16 Aug 2007 11:07:01 PM |
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Leonard Abbott wrote:
Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <><
#3.If all the ice in the artic ice pack melted it would not make sea
level rise 1/10,000 of an inch...Ice actually shrinks when it melts
leaving the ocean sea level exactly the same...
liberals aren't concerned about arctic ice pack, but they are a bit
concerned about antartic and greenland ice.
Jim
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| User: "Andy W" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <>< |
17 Aug 2007 05:51:29 PM |
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On 17 Aug, 04:08, (Leonard Abbott) wrote:
Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <><
That should read "stuff you made up that most people don't want to
read."
I've been reading the replies you've made over on
alt.atheism.holysmoke.
"Len= that is the most deceptive and stupid experiment I have ever
heard.
The weight of Ice, or ice melted, in the form of water is the only
factor that determines the amount of water Ice displaces.
Any nautical engineer know that, it is the weight that makes the sea
rise not its size. weigh it in both states and you will fid they are
exactly the same..... lenny
Do you personally know any nautical engineers? Who are they?
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Try google their nautical engeneers know everything"
"len= If the oceans were warmer, there would be more evaporation,
more
rain and more snow. Snow would pile up on Greenland, Siberia and
Antarctica. We already know the ice pack around Antarctica has
increased
the last 40 yrs.
There is also another plus, more rainfall would reduce the use of
irrigation, and less dependance on underground water
Millions of water wells around the world has reduced the water
table,
in some places as much as 150'. This water needs to be replaced.. "
"I have never heard that theory before. Where did it come from?
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LENNY is the smartest man you will ever know.. listen to him and
learn.
listen to the Atheists and die... lenny"
You ARE just taking the ***** aren't you.
BTW if you aren't going to have the courtesy to respond to replies, at
least have the courtesy to not post your crap here in the first place.
Andy
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <>< |
17 Aug 2007 03:36:38 PM |
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On Aug 16, 11:08 pm, (Leonard Abbott) wrote:
Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <><
#!, petrified palm trees have been found in Antarctica and as far north
as Canada. Proving the Earth has went through radical climate changes
before mans arrival.
Is this a joke? You have heard of "Plate Tectonics", right? Or do you
think that Antarctica was always located where it is now?
#2.Sea levels have risen, since first life appeared on Earth. light from
the sun and oxygen are turned into algae that all sea life depend on for
food..
Sea levels have fluctuated widely over the history of the Earth;
during the Jurassic, much of the US was covered by water. Your point
is?
All sea life die and settle to the ocean floor,
Most sea life that dies is eaten by other sea life, often long before
it gets the chance to reach the ocean floor.
and remain as fossils
or turn into fossil fuel such as petroleum or coal.
Err, no, they don't turn into coal. Where are you getting this from?
Coal is of plant origin.
This ia an age old process that has made the ocean floor rise more than
4 miles over millions of yrs..
#3.If all the ice in the artic ice pack melted it would not make sea
level rise 1/10,000 of an inch...Ice actually shrinks when it melts
leaving the ocean sea level exactly the same...
You are correct: melting the Arctic ice pack would have no effect on
sea level. Melting the Greenland and Antarctic ice, on the other
hand...
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <>< |
17 Aug 2007 12:36:04 PM |
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On Aug 16, 8:08 pm, (Leonard Abbott) wrote:
<Snippage>
#3.If all the ice in the artic ice pack melted it would not make sea
level rise 1/10,000 of an inch...Ice actually shrinks when it melts
leaving the ocean sea level exactly the same...
Except that two of the largest ice sheets - the Greenland Ice Sheet
and Antarctica - are ice that's ON LAND. If/when those melt, it will
add a considerable volume of water to the oceans that presently isn't
in them in any form.
Leonard, kidlet, you need to take some *actual* *science* *classes*
one of these days. The stuff you post is just silly.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <>< |
17 Aug 2007 01:19:42 PM |
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skyeyes wrote:
On Aug 16, 8:08 pm, (Leonard Abbott) wrote:
<Snippage>
#3.If all the ice in the artic ice pack melted it would not make sea
level rise 1/10,000 of an inch...Ice actually shrinks when it melts
leaving the ocean sea level exactly the same...
Except that two of the largest ice sheets - the Greenland Ice Sheet
and Antarctica - are ice that's ON LAND. If/when those melt, it will
add a considerable volume of water to the oceans that presently isn't
in them in any form.
Upwards of 70 meters in sea level rise beween them. But it would take a long
time at current rates of retreat. What's scary is the effect that meltwater
is having on the speed of glacial advance.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <>< |
17 Aug 2007 06:13:40 AM |
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On Aug 17, 3:08 pm, (Leonard Abbott) wrote:
Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <><
<snip>
#2.Sea levels have risen, since first life appeared on Earth. light from
the sun and oxygen are turned into algae that all sea life depend on for
food..
Try getting your facts correct. The Sun + Carbon Dioxide + Water -->
Carbohydrate + Oxygen. I.e Oxygen is produced by photosynthesis not
consumed.
All sea life die and settle to the ocean floor, and remain as fossils
or turn into fossil fuel such as petroleum or coal.
Sea floor is also subducted into the Earths interior and recycled.
This ia an age old process that has made the ocean floor rise more than
4 miles over millions of yrs..
The sea floor is not significantly thicker now than it was a billion
years ago. New sea floor is being continuously produced at spreading
ridges and subducted at trenches. Learn some geology.
#3.If all the ice in the artic ice pack melted it would not make sea
level rise 1/10,000 of an inch...Ice actually shrinks when it melts
leaving the ocean sea level exactly the same...
The problem is the land ice of the Antarctic and Greenland which
constitutes the vast majority of the Earth's ice.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <>< |
17 Aug 2007 09:12:02 AM |
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Llanzlan Klazmon wrote:
#3.If all the ice in the artic ice pack melted it would not make sea
level rise 1/10,000 of an inch...Ice actually shrinks when it melts
leaving the ocean sea level exactly the same...
The problem is the land ice of the Antarctic and Greenland which
constitutes the vast majority of the Earth's ice.
Antarctica 90%
Greenland 5%
Siberia/Alaska/Canada 2%
Arctic Ice Pack <1%
The problem with melting ice in the Arctic Ice Pack has never been rising
sea level. This is either a dishonest strawman argument or complete
ignorance. The problem is that the open sea there will add more feedback to
warming. Open sea absorbs about 90% of solar radiation while ice reflects
about 90%.
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <>< |
17 Aug 2007 03:49:08 PM |
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On Aug 17, 4:08 am, (Leonard Abbott) wrote:
Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <><
#!, petrified palm trees have been found in Antarctica and as far north
as Canada. Proving the Earth has went through radical climate changes
before mans arrival.
That's ahrdly news, you know. It is also interesting, as it shows
(along with a lot of other evidence) that Antarctica et all have not
always been in the same place.
#2.Sea levels have risen, since first life appeared on Earth. light from
the sun and oxygen are turned into algae that all sea life depend on for
food..
All sea life die and settle to the ocean floor, and remain as fossils
or turn into fossil fuel such as petroleum or coal.
This ia an age old process that has made the ocean floor rise more than
4 miles over millions of yrs..
Now that 4 miles bit is utter bollocks, as oceanic crust is
continually recycled through subduction
#3.If all the ice in the artic ice pack melted it would not make sea
level rise 1/10,000 of an inch...Ice actually shrinks when it melts
leaving the ocean sea level exactly the same...
And the Antarctic? That's on land, you know, along with Greenland etc.
Learn a little paleoclimate before trying to present this stuff as
new. It does not in any way undermine the evidence for anthropogenic
climate change at a dangerous rate.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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| User: "satyr" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <>< |
17 Aug 2007 12:02:04 AM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:08:04 -0500, (Leonard
Abbott) wrote:
Scientific facts liberals don't want you to know ><> <>< ><> <><
#!, petrified palm trees have been found in Antarctica and as far north
as Canada. Proving the Earth has went through radical climate changes
before mans arrival.
Probably, although plate tectonics probably has more to do with the
palm trees in Antarctica.
#2.Sea levels have risen, since first life appeared on Earth.
Maybe. So?
light from
the sun and oxygen are turned into algae that all sea life depend on for
food..
No *****.
All sea life die and settle to the ocean floor, and remain as fossils
or turn into fossil fuel such as petroleum or coal.
This ia an age old process that has made the ocean floor rise more than
4 miles over millions of yrs..
Assuming you are not totally full of ***** on this, we are looking at
maybe .005 inches per year in sea rise due to this factor.
#3.If all the ice in the artic ice pack melted it would not make sea
level rise 1/10,000 of an inch...Ice actually shrinks when it melts
leaving the ocean sea level exactly the same...
The ice we are concerned with is sitting on top of land mass. If it
melts, it will run into the ocean and make the sea rise. The volume
of ice locked up in Greenland alone could produce 23 feet in sea rise.
<http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=109759>
So, what is your point? That the Earth today is different from what
it was millions of years ago? So what? It will be scant consolation
if the ocean rises 10 feet in the next 200 years.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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