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"quibbler" |
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29 Mar 2005 09:21:16 PM |
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Scientists improve God's "intelligent design" massively |
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7196
As the article indicates, this new version of rice produces 23 times
more provitamin A than previous strains and may be critical in
preventing childhood blindness. God apparently wasn't smart enough
to engineer these genes into rice to begin with, or just didn't give
a ***** if poor kids in the third world went blind due to
malnutrition.
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able to move real mountains ... But it can put
mountains where there are none." -- Nietzsche
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| User: "Harlequin" |
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| Title: Re: Scientists improve God's "intelligent design" massively |
29 Mar 2005 10:03:49 PM |
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quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1cb374a21e82dff09896ad@news.individual.net:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7196
As the article indicates, this new version of rice produces 23 times
more provitamin A than previous strains and may be critical in
preventing childhood blindness. God apparently wasn't smart enough
to engineer these genes into rice to begin with, or just didn't give
a ***** if poor kids in the third world went blind due to
malnutrition.
It was Eve eating a piece of fruit that was the cause of the
lack of provitamin A. ;-)
Seriously folks, this is not a very good argument. The problem
is not that rice does not have enough of provitamin A, but that
kids in the third world are not getting a balanced diet
in the first place. And the reasons that the kids don't get
a balanced diet has everything to do with decisions made
by human beings.
Of course one could argue that the human diet would not need
to be so diversified if we had the ability to make the
protvitamin A ourselves thus eliminating the need to
eat something with it. Likewise for vitamin C. Humans
have a gene that codes for a broken, unfunctioning enzyme to
make our own vitamin C.
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- Isaac Asimov
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| User: "snex" |
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| Title: Re: Scientists improve God's "intelligent design" massively |
29 Mar 2005 10:10:51 PM |
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Harlequin wrote:
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1cb374a21e82dff09896ad@news.individual.net:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7196
As the article indicates, this new version of rice produces 23
times
more provitamin A than previous strains and may be critical in
preventing childhood blindness. God apparently wasn't smart enough
to engineer these genes into rice to begin with, or just didn't
give
a ***** if poor kids in the third world went blind due to
malnutrition.
It was Eve eating a piece of fruit that was the cause of the
lack of provitamin A. ;-)
Seriously folks, this is not a very good argument. The problem
is not that rice does not have enough of provitamin A, but that
kids in the third world are not getting a balanced diet
in the first place. And the reasons that the kids don't get
a balanced diet has everything to do with decisions made
by human beings.
Of course one could argue that the human diet would not need
to be so diversified if we had the ability to make the
protvitamin A ourselves thus eliminating the need to
eat something with it. Likewise for vitamin C. Humans
have a gene that codes for a broken, unfunctioning enzyme to
make our own vitamin C.
--
Anti-spam: replace "usenet" with "harlequin2"
"Creationists don't want equal time. They want all the time there
is."
- Isaac Asimov
is there any reason we havent tried to coax the vitamin C gene into
turning back on?
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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| Title: Re: Scientists improve God's "intelligent design" massively |
30 Mar 2005 12:27:02 AM |
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In article <1112134251.364189.228530
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, snex said...
is there any reason we havent tried to coax the vitamin C gene into
turning back on?
Are you trying to prod the Tropicana company into putting out a
hit on you? ;-)
Seriously, there isn't much of a vitamin C shortage in the
developed nations. Between citrus fruits and potatoes (not to
mention vitamin supplements), most people get plenty of the
nutrient.
Excess vitamin C can cause problems, though, so I wouldn't want
to be a subject in the gene therapy test that repairs and
reactivates the human body's C-generating potential.
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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| Title: Re: Scientists improve God's "intelligent design" massively |
30 Mar 2005 05:17:26 PM |
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"Brian E. Clark" <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in
news:MPG.1cb3bc629451d35b989927@news.comcast.giganews.com:
In article <1112134251.364189.228530
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, snex said...
is there any reason we havent tried to coax the vitamin C gene into
turning back on?
Are you trying to prod the Tropicana company into putting out a
hit on you? ;-)
Seriously, there isn't much of a vitamin C shortage in the
developed nations. Between citrus fruits and potatoes (not to
mention vitamin supplements), most people get plenty of the
nutrient.
Excess vitamin C can cause problems, though, so I wouldn't want
to be a subject in the gene therapy test that repairs and
reactivates the human body's C-generating potential.
Do you have any cites for the problem with vitamin c? I have a pet
project that entails beating a naturopath about the head and neck with
science so it (the cite) would supply a much needed blunt instrument.
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apatriot #23, aa #1779, Grand Poobah, EAC Department of Oxygen
Deprivation
Responsible for brain damage everywhere!
Gary Bohn
Science rationally modifies a theory to fit evidence, creationism
emotionally modifies evidence to fit the bible.
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| User: "Godfrey" |
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| Title: Re: Scientists improve God's "intelligent design" massively |
30 Mar 2005 03:50:25 AM |
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:27:02 -0500, "Brian E. Clark"
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:
In article <1112134251.364189.228530
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, snex said...
is there any reason we havent tried to coax the vitamin C gene into
turning back on?
Are you trying to prod the Tropicana company into putting out a
hit on you? ;-)
Pay no attention to Hermit. He's just a shill for the Scurvy Lobby.
-Godfrey
"Faith is not a justification, but an admission that
there is no justification. If there are rational
reasons to believe something, then "faith" is
superfluous. If there are no rational reasons to
believe something, then continued belief is, by
definition, irrational."
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| User: "Hermit" |
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| Title: Re: Scientists improve God's "intelligent design" massively |
29 Mar 2005 11:13:38 PM |
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:10:51 -0800, snex wrote:
Harlequin wrote:
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1cb374a21e82dff09896ad@news.individual.net:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7196
As the article indicates, this new version of rice produces 23
times
more provitamin A than previous strains and may be critical in
preventing childhood blindness. God apparently wasn't smart enough
to engineer these genes into rice to begin with, or just didn't
give
a ***** if poor kids in the third world went blind due to
malnutrition.
It was Eve eating a piece of fruit that was the cause of the
lack of provitamin A. ;-)
Seriously folks, this is not a very good argument. The problem
is not that rice does not have enough of provitamin A, but that
kids in the third world are not getting a balanced diet
in the first place. And the reasons that the kids don't get
a balanced diet has everything to do with decisions made
by human beings.
Of course one could argue that the human diet would not need
to be so diversified if we had the ability to make the
protvitamin A ourselves thus eliminating the need to
eat something with it. Likewise for vitamin C. Humans
have a gene that codes for a broken, unfunctioning enzyme to
make our own vitamin C.
--
Anti-spam: replace "usenet" with "harlequin2"
"Creationists don't want equal time. They want all the time there
is."
- Isaac Asimov
is there any reason we havent tried to coax the vitamin C gene into
turning back on?
The orange juice companies are lobbying against it!
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| User: "Noone Inparticular" |
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| Title: Re: Scientists improve God's "intelligent design" massively |
29 Mar 2005 10:40:19 PM |
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snex wrote:
Harlequin wrote:
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1cb374a21e82dff09896ad@news.individual.net:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7196
As the article indicates, this new version of rice produces 23
times
more provitamin A than previous strains and may be critical in
preventing childhood blindness. God apparently wasn't smart
enough
to engineer these genes into rice to begin with, or just didn't
give
a ***** if poor kids in the third world went blind due to
malnutrition.
It was Eve eating a piece of fruit that was the cause of the
lack of provitamin A. ;-)
Seriously folks, this is not a very good argument. The problem
is not that rice does not have enough of provitamin A, but that
kids in the third world are not getting a balanced diet
in the first place. And the reasons that the kids don't get
a balanced diet has everything to do with decisions made
by human beings.
Of course one could argue that the human diet would not need
to be so diversified if we had the ability to make the
protvitamin A ourselves thus eliminating the need to
eat something with it. Likewise for vitamin C. Humans
have a gene that codes for a broken, unfunctioning enzyme to
make our own vitamin C.
--
Anti-spam: replace "usenet" with "harlequin2"
"Creationists don't want equal time. They want all the time there
is."
- Isaac Asimov
is there any reason we havent tried to coax the vitamin C gene into
turning back on?
Don't see many cases of scurvy these days do you?
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| User: "snex" |
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| Title: Re: Scientists improve God's "intelligent design" massively |
29 Mar 2005 10:47:16 PM |
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Noone Inparticular wrote:
snex wrote:
Harlequin wrote:
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1cb374a21e82dff09896ad@news.individual.net:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7196
As the article indicates, this new version of rice produces 23
times
more provitamin A than previous strains and may be critical in
preventing childhood blindness. God apparently wasn't smart
enough
to engineer these genes into rice to begin with, or just didn't
give
a ***** if poor kids in the third world went blind due to
malnutrition.
It was Eve eating a piece of fruit that was the cause of the
lack of provitamin A. ;-)
Seriously folks, this is not a very good argument. The problem
is not that rice does not have enough of provitamin A, but that
kids in the third world are not getting a balanced diet
in the first place. And the reasons that the kids don't get
a balanced diet has everything to do with decisions made
by human beings.
Of course one could argue that the human diet would not need
to be so diversified if we had the ability to make the
protvitamin A ourselves thus eliminating the need to
eat something with it. Likewise for vitamin C. Humans
have a gene that codes for a broken, unfunctioning enzyme to
make our own vitamin C.
--
Anti-spam: replace "usenet" with "harlequin2"
"Creationists don't want equal time. They want all the time there
is."
- Isaac Asimov
is there any reason we havent tried to coax the vitamin C gene into
turning back on?
Don't see many cases of scurvy these days do you?
no, but itd be nice to have it anyway. you never know when scurvy might
make a comeback.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Scientists improve God's "intelligent design" massively |
30 Mar 2005 11:28:16 AM |
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:03:49 GMT, Harlequin <usenet@cox.net> wrote:
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1cb374a21e82dff09896ad@news.individual.net:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7196
As the article indicates, this new version of rice produces 23 times
more provitamin A than previous strains and may be critical in
preventing childhood blindness. God apparently wasn't smart enough
to engineer these genes into rice to begin with, or just didn't give
a ***** if poor kids in the third world went blind due to
malnutrition.
It was Eve eating a piece of fruit that was the cause of the
lack of provitamin A. ;-)
Seriously folks, this is not a very good argument.
Actually, it's no argument at all. quib rides his horsie by himself. Not the
brightest light on the block.
duke
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