Religions > Atheism > Scottish Presbyterian Minister's son sets example and starts ball rolling in the problem of Third World Debt
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Scottish Presbyterian Minister's son sets example and starts ball rolling in the problem of Third World Debt |
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/economics/story/0,11268,1390240,00.html?85%3A+Politics+news
UK to relieve Tanzania debt burden
Patrick Wintour in Tanzania
Friday January 14, 2005
The Guardian
Gordon Brown took the first step to lift the crippling $80bn debt owed by
the world's poorest countries when he announced that Britain will relieve
part of the debt owed to the World Bank by Tanzania, one of the most
impoverished states in the world.
The move signals the start of a campaign to persuade rich nations to follow
Britain's lead and take on the multilateral debt owed mainly by African
countries to the World Bank, IMF and African Bank for Reconstruction.
The chancellor will today sign a formal memorandum of understanding with the
Tanzanian government in Dar es Salaam and is likely to sign a similar deal
with Mozambique tomorrow.
He said he was acting because "people weighed down by the burdens of debts
imposed by the last generation on this generation cannot even begin to build
for the next generation".
The Tanzanian government responded to the gesture by saying it would be able
to move towards having 50% of children in secondary education by 2015.
Mr Brown said he intended to service the interest payments and capital
repayments of 10% of all the debt owed to the World Bank by the 70 poorest
nations, reflecting Britain's 10% shareholding in the bank.
The move will cost Britain anything between $1.2bn and $2bn (?635m and
?1.06bn) between now and 2015. In the case of Tanzania his initiative will
relieve the Tanzanians from paying $75m of the $750m debt payments due to
fall to the World Bank over the next 10 years.
Mr Brown concedes his visit to Africa is partly designed to breathe life
into the moral issues underlying the often dry discussions of debt relief
and trade. Yesterday he met an Aids victim only weeks from death, Paulo
Matoly, who told him: "It is cruel, my disease, but I do not hate people.
People hate me but we are all brothers."
Mr Brown hopes such tragedies will persuade the British people of the wisdom
of his African debt drive, and protect his government from claims that it is
throwing money at corrupt or inefficient administrations. He said Britain
would end servicing of the Tanzanian debt if it breached undertakings on
good governance and democracy.
Mr Brown said: "What we offer to Tanzania today we now offer to the whole
developing world tomorrow. So in Africa, Asia and Latin America we make this
offer not just to the 37 heavily indebted poor countries, but to all low
income countries as long as they can ensure debt relief is used for poverty
reduction."
In total $50bn is owed by these countries to the World Bank and the African
Bank for Reconstruction. A further $30bn is owed to the IMF.
Mr Brown hopes to persuade the IMF to fund cancellation through selling or
revaluing some of its gold reserves.
He will raise the issue of multilateral debt relief at a meeting of G7
finance ministers next month. Britain is currently president of the G7 and
has made the cause of Africa the goal of its presidency.
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| User: "gregwrld" |
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15 Jan 2005 05:21:03 PM |
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You're incorrigible. The least you can do is call these "OT".
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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15 Jan 2005 05:47:32 PM |
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Użytkownik "gregwrld" <GCzebatol@msn.com> napisał w wiadomości
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You're incorrigible. The least you can do is call these "OT".
I don't know what Gordon Brown has to do with the Old Testament, but if it
pleases you.
Uncle Davey
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| User: "gregwrld" |
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16 Jan 2005 04:51:40 PM |
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You don't wonder why you get no respect around here, do you?
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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16 Jan 2005 06:43:28 PM |
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"gregwrld" <GCzebatol@msn.com> wrote in message
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You don't wonder why you get no respect around here, do you?
Don't worry. I know why.
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Uncle Davey
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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16 Jan 2005 07:23:30 PM |
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Uncle Davey wrote:
(snip)
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
For instance?
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John Popelish
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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16 Jan 2005 07:41:16 PM |
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"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
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Uncle Davey wrote:
(snip)
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
For instance?
I could do what harvestdancer did a few moments ago and construct a massive
strawman argument.
And nobody would call me on it.
Uncle Davey
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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17 Jan 2005 12:04:58 AM |
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Uncle Davey wrote:
"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
news:41EABF32.13A504EA@rica.net...
Uncle Davey wrote:
(snip)
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
For instance?
I could do what harvestdancer did a few moments ago and construct a massive
strawman argument.
And nobody would call me on it.
Why would you like to do that?
--
John Popelish
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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17 Jan 2005 12:07:46 AM |
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Użytkownik "John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> napisał w wiadomości
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Uncle Davey wrote:
"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
news:41EABF32.13A504EA@rica.net...
Uncle Davey wrote:
(snip)
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
For instance?
I could do what harvestdancer did a few moments ago and construct a
massive
strawman argument.
And nobody would call me on it.
Why would you like to do that?
--
John Popelish
I don't.
But if I did feel like it, it wouldn't matter, as long as it were on the
right side of the argument for some people's liking.
Uncle Davey
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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17 Jan 2005 12:54:14 AM |
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Uncle Davey wrote:
Użytkownik "John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> napisał w wiadomości
news:41EB012A.D41D93BB@rica.net...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
news:41EABF32.13A504EA@rica.net...
Uncle Davey wrote:
(snip)
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
For instance?
I could do what harvestdancer did a few moments ago and construct a
massive
strawman argument.
And nobody would call me on it.
Why would you like to do that?
I don't.
But if I did feel like it, it wouldn't matter, as long as it were on the
right side of the argument for some people's liking.
My question was about what you would like to do that you are
restrained from doing, now. Evidently, you are not now restrained
from doing what you would like to do. Excellent.
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John Popelish
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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17 Jan 2005 01:11:22 AM |
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Użytkownik "John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> napisał w wiadomości
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Uncle Davey wrote:
Użytkownik "John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> napisał w wiadomości
news:41EB012A.D41D93BB@rica.net...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
news:41EABF32.13A504EA@rica.net...
Uncle Davey wrote:
(snip)
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
For instance?
I could do what harvestdancer did a few moments ago and construct a
massive
strawman argument.
And nobody would call me on it.
Why would you like to do that?
I don't.
But if I did feel like it, it wouldn't matter, as long as it were on the
right side of the argument for some people's liking.
My question was about what you would like to do that you are
restrained from doing, now. Evidently, you are not now restrained
from doing what you would like to do. Excellent.
I'm not restrained, but some people don't let me do it without hairsplitting
criticism, whereas some things would pass without such criticism when the
other side does it.
Uncle Davey
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| User: "Richard Clayton" |
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17 Jan 2005 05:29:06 AM |
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Uncle Davey wrote:
"gregwrld" <GCzebatol@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1105894300.098347.46820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
You don't wonder why you get no respect around here, do you?
Don't worry. I know why.
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Not true. Look at the pasting the Reverend Admiral Fred Rice gets every
time he pops his head up.
--
[The address listed is a spam trap. To reply, take off every zig.]
Richard Clayton
"The world needs more Starscream." -- Stephenls
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| User: "David" |
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17 Jan 2005 12:34:30 PM |
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Richard Clayton wrote:
Uncle Davey wrote:
"gregwrld" <GCzebatol@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1105894300.098347.46820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
You don't wonder why you get no respect around here, do you?
Don't worry. I know why.
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Not true. Look at the pasting the Reverend Admiral Fred Rice gets
every
time he pops his head up.
That's true. I'm one of those that went after Fred for his unseemly
behavior; and Sharon, too, among others.
I've taken a few lumps, too.
No one REALLY gets a free ride here, Davey - not for long, anyway.
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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17 Jan 2005 01:42:41 PM |
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Użytkownik "David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> napisał w wiadomości
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Richard Clayton wrote:
Uncle Davey wrote:
"gregwrld" <GCzebatol@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1105894300.098347.46820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
You don't wonder why you get no respect around here, do you?
Don't worry. I know why.
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Not true. Look at the pasting the Reverend Admiral Fred Rice gets
every
time he pops his head up.
That's true. I'm one of those that went after Fred for his unseemly
behavior; and Sharon, too, among others.
I've taken a few lumps, too.
No one REALLY gets a free ride here, Davey - not for long, anyway.
OK. Maybe I was wrong about that.
Although I'm sure there are those more partisan than you.
Aaron Clausen was another one of the fairer ones also, and it's a pity he's
not here.
Uncle Davey
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| User: "David" |
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16 Jan 2005 06:47:54 PM |
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Uncle Davey wrote:
"gregwrld" <GCzebatol@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1105894300.098347.46820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
You don't wonder why you get no respect around here, do you?
Don't worry. I know why.
Why, Davey?
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Do you REALLY think so?
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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16 Jan 2005 07:27:21 PM |
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"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Uncle Davey wrote:
"gregwrld" <GCzebatol@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1105894300.098347.46820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
You don't wonder why you get no respect around here, do you?
Don't worry. I know why.
Why, Davey?
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Do you REALLY think so?
I know so.
Did I see you calling harvestdancer on that trident guff?
Oh no. Do you agree with it?
I seriously doubt it, but he's not in the target template.
Since we are in yours and his target template, you can see hinm as an ally,
and if he wants to write about the Iliad being 100% true, that's fine.
Uncle Davey
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| User: "David" |
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16 Jan 2005 07:48:58 PM |
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Uncle Davey wrote:
< snip >
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Do you REALLY think so?
I know so.
Did I see you calling harvestdancer on that trident guff?
Oh no. Do you agree with it?
I seriously doubt it, but he's not in the target template.
Since we are in yours and his target template, you can see hinm as an
ally,
and if he wants to write about the Iliad being 100% true, that's
fine.
By the way, Davey, in case you haven't noticed: You're whining.
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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16 Jan 2005 08:05:05 PM |
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"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105904938.873128.30920@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
< snip >
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Do you REALLY think so?
I know so.
Did I see you calling harvestdancer on that trident guff?
Oh no. Do you agree with it?
I seriously doubt it, but he's not in the target template.
Since we are in yours and his target template, you can see hinm as an
ally,
and if he wants to write about the Iliad being 100% true, that's
fine.
By the way, Davey, in case you haven't noticed: You're whining.
If that's what you call pointing out facts, yes, I am.
Uncle Davey
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| User: "David" |
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16 Jan 2005 08:18:23 PM |
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Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105904938.873128.30920@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
< snip >
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Do you REALLY think so?
I know so.
Did I see you calling harvestdancer on that trident guff?
Oh no. Do you agree with it?
I seriously doubt it, but he's not in the target template.
Since we are in yours and his target template, you can see hinm
as an
ally,
and if he wants to write about the Iliad being 100% true, that's
fine.
By the way, Davey, in case you haven't noticed: You're whining.
If that's what you call pointing out facts, yes, I am.
No, Davey, it's whining.
Effectively, it's "you're picking on me...how come you're not picking
on him?"
Whining, Davey.
You've done it before.
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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16 Jan 2005 08:25:47 PM |
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"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105906703.626340.149060@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105904938.873128.30920@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
< snip >
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Do you REALLY think so?
I know so.
Did I see you calling harvestdancer on that trident guff?
Oh no. Do you agree with it?
I seriously doubt it, but he's not in the target template.
Since we are in yours and his target template, you can see hinm
as an
ally,
and if he wants to write about the Iliad being 100% true, that's
fine.
By the way, Davey, in case you haven't noticed: You're whining.
If that's what you call pointing out facts, yes, I am.
No, Davey, it's whining.
Effectively, it's "you're picking on me...how come you're not picking
on him?"
Whining, Davey.
You've done it before.
Lawyers always use that term, it's all they've got left when people show how
they are inconsistent.
Uncle Davey
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| User: "David" |
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16 Jan 2005 08:34:19 PM |
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Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105906703.626340.149060@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105904938.873128.30920@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
< snip >
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Do you REALLY think so?
I know so.
Did I see you calling harvestdancer on that trident guff?
Oh no. Do you agree with it?
I seriously doubt it, but he's not in the target template.
Since we are in yours and his target template, you can see
hinm
as an
ally,
and if he wants to write about the Iliad being 100% true,
that's
fine.
By the way, Davey, in case you haven't noticed: You're
whining.
If that's what you call pointing out facts, yes, I am.
No, Davey, it's whining.
Effectively, it's "you're picking on me...how come you're not
picking
on him?"
Whining, Davey.
You've done it before.
Lawyers always use that term, it's all they've got left when people
show how
they are inconsistent.
Oh, dear.
Now it's an attack on lawyers in general, eh?
Christians always use that tactic when they are exposed for whining -
lump everybody together and categorize them.
It won't work, Davey.
It never does.
You were whining.
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16 Jan 2005 07:41:36 PM |
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Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105901274.036197.103520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"gregwrld" <GCzebatol@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1105894300.098347.46820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
You don't wonder why you get no respect around here, do you?
Don't worry. I know why.
Why, Davey?
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Do you REALLY think so?
I know so.
Do you REALLY?
Did I see you calling harvestdancer on that trident guff?
Well, I'm afraid I gave up his game before he was ready.
Oh no. Do you agree with it?
No, of course not.
And if you look at the comments between us, you'll see that he doesn't
really, either.
I seriously doubt it, but he's not in the target template.
He doesn't need to be.
He didn't try to convert me to Wicca, or pretend that I had any
inclination toward that belief system.
Since we are in yours and his target template, you can see hinm as an
ally,
and if he wants to write about the Iliad being 100% true, that's
fine.
Did he REALLY claim that the Iliad is "100% true," Davey?
Jason claims that the BIBLE is.
What say you on that subject?
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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16 Jan 2005 08:42:08 PM |
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"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105904496.896248.327180@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105901274.036197.103520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"gregwrld" <GCzebatol@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1105894300.098347.46820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
You don't wonder why you get no respect around here, do you?
Don't worry. I know why.
Why, Davey?
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Do you REALLY think so?
I know so.
Do you REALLY?
Did I see you calling harvestdancer on that trident guff?
Well, I'm afraid I gave up his game before he was ready.
Oh no. Do you agree with it?
No, of course not.
And if you look at the comments between us, you'll see that he doesn't
really, either.
I seriously doubt it, but he's not in the target template.
He doesn't need to be.
He didn't try to convert me to Wicca, or pretend that I had any
inclination toward that belief system.
Since we are in yours and his target template, you can see hinm as an
ally,
and if he wants to write about the Iliad being 100% true, that's
fine.
Did he REALLY claim that the Iliad is "100% true," Davey?
Jason claims that the BIBLE is.
What say you on that subject?
Actually I believe there probably is quite a bit of truth in the Iliad, but
it doesn't have the Bible's perfection.
Uncle Davey
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| User: "David" |
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16 Jan 2005 08:47:44 PM |
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Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105904496.896248.327180@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105901274.036197.103520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"gregwrld" <GCzebatol@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1105894300.098347.46820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
You don't wonder why you get no respect around here, do
you?
Don't worry. I know why.
Why, Davey?
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Do you REALLY think so?
I know so.
Do you REALLY?
Did I see you calling harvestdancer on that trident guff?
Well, I'm afraid I gave up his game before he was ready.
Oh no. Do you agree with it?
No, of course not.
And if you look at the comments between us, you'll see that he
doesn't
really, either.
I seriously doubt it, but he's not in the target template.
He doesn't need to be.
He didn't try to convert me to Wicca, or pretend that I had any
inclination toward that belief system.
Since we are in yours and his target template, you can see hinm
as an
ally,
and if he wants to write about the Iliad being 100% true, that's
fine.
Did he REALLY claim that the Iliad is "100% true," Davey?
Jason claims that the BIBLE is.
What say you on that subject?
Actually I believe there probably is quite a bit of truth in the
Iliad, but
it doesn't have the Bible's perfection.
We can deal with the "perfection" in the Bible at another time, Davey.
Trust me - it's on my list.
But you didn't answer my question.
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16 Jan 2005 09:24:18 PM |
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"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105904496.896248.327180@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Uncle Davey wrote:
"gregwrld" <GCzebatol@msn.com> wrote in message
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You don't wonder why you get no respect around here, do
you?
Don't worry. I know why.
Why, Davey?
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Do you REALLY think so?
I know so.
Do you REALLY?
Did I see you calling harvestdancer on that trident guff?
Well, I'm afraid I gave up his game before he was ready.
Oh no. Do you agree with it?
No, of course not.
And if you look at the comments between us, you'll see that he
doesn't
really, either.
I seriously doubt it, but he's not in the target template.
He doesn't need to be.
He didn't try to convert me to Wicca, or pretend that I had any
inclination toward that belief system.
Since we are in yours and his target template, you can see hinm
as an
ally,
and if he wants to write about the Iliad being 100% true, that's
fine.
Did he REALLY claim that the Iliad is "100% true," Davey?
Jason claims that the BIBLE is.
What say you on that subject?
Actually I believe there probably is quite a bit of truth in the
Iliad, but
it doesn't have the Bible's perfection.
We can deal with the "perfection" in the Bible at another time, Davey.
Trust me - it's on my list.
But you didn't answer my question.
I do believe the Bible is 100% true, but at which levels and whether that
means that we have 100% understood it, is quite another matter.
Uncle Davey
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: Scottish Presbyterian Minister's son sets example and starts ball rolling in the problem of Third World Debt |
16 Jan 2005 09:30:32 PM |
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Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105904496.896248.327180@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105901274.036197.103520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"gregwrld" <GCzebatol@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1105894300.098347.46820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
You don't wonder why you get no respect around here, do
you?
Don't worry. I know why.
Why, Davey?
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Do you REALLY think so?
I know so.
Do you REALLY?
Did I see you calling harvestdancer on that trident guff?
Well, I'm afraid I gave up his game before he was ready.
Oh no. Do you agree with it?
No, of course not.
And if you look at the comments between us, you'll see that he
doesn't
really, either.
I seriously doubt it, but he's not in the target template.
He doesn't need to be.
He didn't try to convert me to Wicca, or pretend that I had any
inclination toward that belief system.
Since we are in yours and his target template, you can see
hinm
as an
ally,
and if he wants to write about the Iliad being 100% true,
that's
fine.
Did he REALLY claim that the Iliad is "100% true," Davey?
Jason claims that the BIBLE is.
What say you on that subject?
Actually I believe there probably is quite a bit of truth in the
Iliad, but
it doesn't have the Bible's perfection.
We can deal with the "perfection" in the Bible at another time,
Davey.
Trust me - it's on my list.
But you didn't answer my question.
I do believe the Bible is 100% true, but at which levels and whether
that
means that we have 100% understood it, is quite another matter.
I said we'd deal with the Bible another time.
You STILL haven't answered my question.
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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| Title: Re: Scottish Presbyterian Minister's son sets example and starts ball rolling in the problem of Third World Debt |
16 Jan 2005 09:40:50 PM |
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Użytkownik "David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> napisał w wiadomości
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Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105908464.500479.267730@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105904496.896248.327180@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105901274.036197.103520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"gregwrld" <GCzebatol@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1105894300.098347.46820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
You don't wonder why you get no respect around here, do
you?
Don't worry. I know why.
Why, Davey?
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Do you REALLY think so?
I know so.
Do you REALLY?
Did I see you calling harvestdancer on that trident guff?
Well, I'm afraid I gave up his game before he was ready.
Oh no. Do you agree with it?
No, of course not.
And if you look at the comments between us, you'll see that he
doesn't
really, either.
I seriously doubt it, but he's not in the target template.
He doesn't need to be.
He didn't try to convert me to Wicca, or pretend that I had any
inclination toward that belief system.
Since we are in yours and his target template, you can see
hinm
as an
ally,
and if he wants to write about the Iliad being 100% true,
that's
fine.
Did he REALLY claim that the Iliad is "100% true," Davey?
Jason claims that the BIBLE is.
What say you on that subject?
Actually I believe there probably is quite a bit of truth in the
Iliad, but
it doesn't have the Bible's perfection.
We can deal with the "perfection" in the Bible at another time,
Davey.
Trust me - it's on my list.
But you didn't answer my question.
I do believe the Bible is 100% true, but at which levels and whether
that
means that we have 100% understood it, is quite another matter.
I said we'd deal with the Bible another time.
You STILL haven't answered my question.
I answered the lot. You're just being obtuse.
Uncle Davey
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: Scottish Presbyterian Minister's son sets example and starts ball rolling in the problem of Third World Debt |
17 Jan 2005 03:00:24 PM |
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Uncle Davey wrote:
Użytkownik "David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> napisał w wiadomości
news:1105911032.167024.229800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105908464.500479.267730@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105904496.896248.327180@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"David" <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105901274.036197.103520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Uncle Davey wrote:
"gregwrld" <GCzebatol@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1105894300.098347.46820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
You don't wonder why you get no respect around
here, do
you?
Don't worry. I know why.
Why, Davey?
If I were on your side, I could do what I liked.
Do you REALLY think so?
I know so.
Do you REALLY?
Did I see you calling harvestdancer on that trident guff?
Well, I'm afraid I gave up his game before he was ready.
Oh no. Do you agree with it?
No, of course not.
And if you look at the comments between us, you'll see that
he
doesn't
really, either.
I seriously doubt it, but he's not in the target
template.
He doesn't need to be.
He didn't try to convert me to Wicca, or pretend that I had
any
inclination toward that belief system.
Since we are in yours and his target template, you can
see
hinm
as an
ally,
and if he wants to write about the Iliad being 100% true,
that's
fine.
Did he REALLY claim that the Iliad is "100% true," Davey?
Jason claims that the BIBLE is.
What say you on that subject?
Actually I believe there probably is quite a bit of truth in
the
Iliad, but
it doesn't have the Bible's perfection.
We can deal with the "perfection" in the Bible at another time,
Davey.
Trust me - it's on my list.
But you didn't answer my question.
I do believe the Bible is 100% true, but at which levels and
whether
that
means that we have 100% understood it, is quite another matter.
I said we'd deal with the Bible another time.
You STILL haven't answered my question.
I answered the lot. You're just being obtuse.
If you did, I wouldn't be suggesting that you didn't.
You wrote: "...if he wants to write about the Iliad being 100%
true..."
And I asked: "Did he REALLY claim that the Iliad is '100% true,'
Davey?"
Your confusion was that I followed it with another question, and that's
the question you took up, but the previous question was NOT rhetorical.
So you didn't answer "the lot," and given your rather peculiar pattern
of presuming to argue the points of your opponents (did you ever figure
out what a "straw man" really is?), I thought I'd ask.
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