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"Guitar George" |
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31 Jan 2005 07:47:35 AM |
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Second Thoughts? |
This has probably been discussed before on alt.atheism, but I haven't
seen this lately. As a recovering Catholic and later born again
protestant, I pride myself on my maturity and rationality in rejecting
the absurd doctrines I was brainwashed with most of my life, still does
anyone else wake up in the middle of night, wondering if there might
actually be a fiery hell awaiting all us non-believers? There is other
odd unexpected stuff in this universe, hell, it might be true that some
vengeful Jewish God made us all to test us and then killed his Son to
save us, crazier ***** has been shown to be true, (e.g. subatomic
particles that change they behavior when observed, etc.). Comments?
Guitar George
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Second Thoughts? |
03 Feb 2005 04:33:00 PM |
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 07:25:50 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ur4301968ad0nr93m9n4r0g3e5op03hmog@4ax.com...
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 09:51:41 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> said in alt.atheism:
I was actually at a Catholic funeral this past Saturday. Can you believe
the priest actually said that he hoped the deceased had remembered the
church in her will? As my ex-Catholic husband always says "the Catholic
church is all about money" :P
And you expected it to be all about?
Religion?
Well, that is what my Catholic SILs keep telling me ;)
What does the Catholic laity know about Catholicism?
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"religion did for *****, what Stonehenge did for rocks"
- The World Famous Tink
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Second Thoughts? |
02 Feb 2005 11:46:21 PM |
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 09:51:41 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Tukla Ratte" <tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote in message
news:36c6i3F4u34veU1@individual.net...
stoney wrote:
On 31 Jan 2005 05:47:35 -0800, "Guitar George" <a01a01@yahoo.com>
wrote:
This has probably been discussed before on alt.atheism, but I haven't
seen this lately. As a recovering Catholic and later born again
protestant, I pride myself on my maturity and rationality in rejecting
the absurd doctrines I was brainwashed with most of my life, still does
anyone else wake up in the middle of night, wondering if there might
actually be a fiery hell awaiting all us non-believers? There is other
odd unexpected stuff in this universe, hell, it might be true that some
vengeful Jewish God made us all to test us and then killed his Son to
save us, crazier ***** has been shown to be true, (e.g. subatomic
particles that change they behavior when observed, etc.). Comments?
Guitar George
The conditioning is extremely malevolent. It takes time to eliminate
the garbage programming. Keep in mind with an omni character there's
no 'testing' or 'free will.' Of course, it doesn't exist nor does its
torture chamber.
You ever been to a Catholic wedding? >8-)
Hey! I had a Catholic wedding :)
I was actually at a Catholic funeral this past Saturday. Can you believe
the priest actually said that he hoped the deceased had remembered the
church in her will?
Certainly.
As my ex-Catholic husband always says "the Catholic
church is all about money" :P
....and altar boys.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Tukla Ratte" |
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| Title: Re: Second Thoughts? |
03 Feb 2005 11:27:27 AM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Tukla Ratte" <tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote in message
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stoney wrote:
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The conditioning is extremely malevolent. It takes time to eliminate
the garbage programming. Keep in mind with an omni character there's
no 'testing' or 'free will.' Of course, it doesn't exist nor does its
torture chamber.
You ever been to a Catholic wedding? >8-)
Hey! I had a Catholic wedding :)
Meaning that *you* had something to *do*. >8-P
< snip >
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Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Second Thoughts? |
03 Feb 2005 11:32:01 AM |
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"Tukla Ratte" <tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote in message
news:36f583F51graiU1@individual.net...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Tukla Ratte" <tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote in message
news:36c6i3F4u34veU1@individual.net...
stoney wrote:
< snip >
The conditioning is extremely malevolent. It takes time to eliminate
the garbage programming. Keep in mind with an omni character there's
no 'testing' or 'free will.' Of course, it doesn't exist nor does its
torture chamber.
You ever been to a Catholic wedding? >8-)
Hey! I had a Catholic wedding :)
Meaning that *you* had something to *do*. >8-P
< snip >
Um..............what? :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Second Thoughts? |
02 Feb 2005 11:45:39 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:31:30 -0600, Tukla Ratte
<tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote:
stoney wrote:
On 31 Jan 2005 05:47:35 -0800, "Guitar George" <a01a01@yahoo.com>
wrote:
This has probably been discussed before on alt.atheism, but I haven't
seen this lately. As a recovering Catholic and later born again
protestant, I pride myself on my maturity and rationality in rejecting
the absurd doctrines I was brainwashed with most of my life, still does
anyone else wake up in the middle of night, wondering if there might
actually be a fiery hell awaiting all us non-believers? There is other
odd unexpected stuff in this universe, hell, it might be true that some
vengeful Jewish God made us all to test us and then killed his Son to
save us, crazier ***** has been shown to be true, (e.g. subatomic
particles that change they behavior when observed, etc.). Comments?
Guitar George
The conditioning is extremely malevolent. It takes time to eliminate
the garbage programming. Keep in mind with an omni character there's
no 'testing' or 'free will.' Of course, it doesn't exist nor does its
torture chamber.
You ever been to a Catholic wedding? >8-)
Point!
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Second Thoughts? |
31 Jan 2005 08:47:34 PM |
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On 31 Jan 2005 05:47:35 -0800, "Guitar George" <a01a01@yahoo.com> said
in alt.atheism:
This has probably been discussed before on alt.atheism, but I haven't
seen this lately. As a recovering Catholic and later born again
protestant, I pride myself on my maturity and rationality in rejecting
the absurd doctrines I was brainwashed with most of my life, still does
anyone else wake up in the middle of night, wondering if there might
actually be a fiery hell awaiting all us non-believers?
People who don't believe in it don't believe in it. I know that may
sound silly, but think about it.
There is other
odd unexpected stuff in this universe, hell, it might be true that some
vengeful Jewish God made us all to test us and then killed his Son to
save us, crazier ***** has been shown to be true, (e.g. subatomic
particles that change they behavior when observed
Nothing crazy about that.
But a perfect, omni-benevolent god that would create us only to have
us burn in hell forever? Don't you realize that Christianity is a
self-contradiction?
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There are three kinds of men:
The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence.
- (Will Rogers)
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rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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| Title: Re: Second Thoughts? |
31 Jan 2005 04:18:07 PM |
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On 31 Jan 2005 05:47:35 -0800, "Guitar George" <a01a01@yahoo.com> wrote:
This has probably been discussed before on alt.atheism, but I haven't
seen this lately. As a recovering Catholic and later born again
protestant, I pride myself on my maturity and rationality in rejecting
the absurd doctrines I was brainwashed with most of my life, still does
anyone else wake up in the middle of night, wondering if there might
actually be a fiery hell awaiting all us non-believers? There is other
odd unexpected stuff in this universe, hell, it might be true that some
vengeful Jewish God made us all to test us and then killed his Son to
save us, crazier ***** has been shown to be true, (e.g. subatomic
particles that change they behavior when observed, etc.). Comments?
Guitar George
Why are you posting this bollix, to an atheist NG, you stupid brain dead *****
WIT?
--
Puck Greenman
The spelling Like any opinion stated here
purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan
January 27th
Na bister 500,000
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: Second Thoughts? |
31 Jan 2005 05:26:47 PM |
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In article <ikbtv094gd7jlgifvid54old6067qpch9a@4ax.com>,
Dubh Ghall <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:
On 31 Jan 2005 05:47:35 -0800, "Guitar George" <a01a01@yahoo.com> wrote:
This has probably been discussed before on alt.atheism, but I haven't
seen this lately. As a recovering Catholic and later born again
protestant, I pride myself on my maturity and rationality in rejecting
the absurd doctrines I was brainwashed with most of my life, still does
anyone else wake up in the middle of night, wondering if there might
actually be a fiery hell awaiting all us non-believers? There is other
odd unexpected stuff in this universe, hell, it might be true that some
vengeful Jewish God made us all to test us and then killed his Son to
save us, crazier ***** has been shown to be true, (e.g. subatomic
particles that change they behavior when observed, etc.). Comments?
Guitar George
Why are you posting this bollix, to an atheist NG, you stupid brain dead *****
WIT?
--
Puck Greenman
The spelling Like any opinion stated here
purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan
January 27th
Na bister 500,000
Dude, chill! He was just asking a simple question...
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "RainLover" |
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| Title: Re: Second Thoughts? |
01 Feb 2005 08:38:52 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:18:07 GMT, Dubh Ghall <puck@pooks.hill.fey>
wrote:
On 31 Jan 2005 05:47:35 -0800, "Guitar George" <a01a01@yahoo.com> wrote:
This has probably been discussed before on alt.atheism, but I haven't
seen this lately. As a recovering Catholic and later born again
protestant, I pride myself on my maturity and rationality in rejecting
the absurd doctrines I was brainwashed with most of my life, still does
anyone else wake up in the middle of night, wondering if there might
actually be a fiery hell awaiting all us non-believers? There is other
odd unexpected stuff in this universe, hell, it might be true that some
vengeful Jewish God made us all to test us and then killed his Son to
save us, crazier ***** has been shown to be true, (e.g. subatomic
particles that change they behavior when observed, etc.). Comments?
Guitar George
Why are you posting this bollix, to an atheist NG, you stupid brain dead *****
WIT?
What the *****, Puck? George here is asking a serious question.
Many atheists, myself included, were born into the brainwashing of
Christiantiy. I was Luthern for 16 years of my life and then bounced
around for 5, baptist, church of god, etc... Even after I stopped
attending all church and knew in my heart that there was no god, it
took me another 5 years of hard work to admit out loud that I was an
atheist.
Don't dimiss someone just because they are having a hard time of it.
James, Seattle
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| User: "Ian Braidwood" |
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| Title: Re: Second Thoughts? |
01 Feb 2005 08:08:30 AM |
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To be an atheist is to accept doubt and reject psychological crutches.
I do not know God doesn't exist, only feel that it is unreasonable to
believe He does, given the evidence.
It follows that I have to consider whether or not I am wrong in this
judgement and God the creator does exist.
One thing I do not fear is Hell, because it is the most ridiculous
peice of stupidity ever imagined and the idea that you go there just
because you're not a Christian is absurd too.
If there is a God and it is wise, it will not punish, but teach;
because punishment is a form of abuse and abuse only makes people worse
than they are, whereas teaching corrects the true cause of evil:
ignorance.
The god portrayed in The Bible is a brat, unworthy of respect, leave
alone worship. He is merely the biggest imaginable bully, parasite and
goad for barbarism.
If God really exists, it may challenge you more than anything else
could, but there is no reason to fear it if you've been honest with
yourself.
(-: Ian :-)
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: Second Thoughts? |
31 Jan 2005 09:31:51 AM |
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on 31 Jan 2005 in alt.atheism, Guitar George dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:
This has probably been discussed before on alt.atheism, but I haven't
seen this lately. As a recovering Catholic and later born again
protestant, I pride myself on my maturity and rationality in rejecting
the absurd doctrines I was brainwashed with most of my life, still does
anyone else wake up in the middle of night, wondering if there might
actually be a fiery hell awaiting all us non-believers? There is other
odd unexpected stuff in this universe, hell, it might be true that some
vengeful Jewish God made us all to test us and then killed his Son to
save us, crazier ***** has been shown to be true, (e.g. subatomic
particles that change they behavior when observed, etc.). Comments?
Guitar George
The dogma is crazy, absurd, laughable. A person would have to be insane to
believe it. It never made sense to me, even when I was earnestly trying to
be a believer.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are the kind of
people you wouldn't want to ***** in the first place?
--George Carlin
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