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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced"
Date: 18 Oct 2003 12:53:59 PM
Object: See the Democrat's Plame ad
http://tinyurl.com/rf78
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argument must be approached with a healthy skepticism."
--Justice William Brennan
Tim
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User: ""

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 18 Oct 2003 03:00:21 PM

In article <Xns94186F3F7B65Dtimsomecallme@216.168.3.44>,
Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced says...
http://tinyurl.com/rf78

A somewhat different perspective...
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/11/opinion/11KRIS.html
[...]
All in all, I think the Democrats are engaging in hyperbole when they describe
the White House as having put Mrs. Wilson's life in danger and destroyed her
career; her days skulking along the back alleys of cities like Beirut and
Algiers were already mostly over.
Moreover, the Democrats cheapen the debate with calls, at the very beginning of
the process, for a special counsel to investigate the White House. Hillary
Rodham Clinton knows better than anyone how destructive and distracting a
special counsel investigation can be, interfering with the basic task of
governing, and it's sad to see her display the same pusillanimous partisanship
that Republicans showed just a few years ago.
If Democrats have politicized the scandal and exaggerated it, Republicans have
inexcusably tried to whitewash it. The leak risked the security of all
operatives who had used Brewster-Jennings as cover, as well as of all assets
ever seen with Mrs. Wilson. Unwitting sources will now realize that they were
supplying the C.I.A. with information, and even real agents may fear exposure
and vanish.
[...end...]
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User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 18 Oct 2003 10:23:09 PM
"little_people" <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote

All in all, I think the Democrats are engaging in hyperbole
when they describe the White House as having put Mrs.
Wilson's life in danger and destroyed her career; her days
skulking along the back alleys of cities like Beirut and
Algiers were already mostly over.

The Republicans didn't just out her, they outed the CIA front
company she had been working out of. Other governments
may not have known her from a hole in the wall, even after
the Republicans broke the law by exposing her, but it is
real easy for them to trace the front company and anyone who
had any connections with it.
It's not just about her. Any foreign nationals who helped the
United States through her or her front company are in real
danger.

Moreover, the Democrats cheapen the debate with calls, at
the very beginning of the process, for a special counsel to
investigate the White House.

John Ashcroft called for a special prosecutor to investigate
exactly which phone Al Gore made some fundraising calls
from. He said that the A.G. could not be trusted to investigate
the person they work for.
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User: "dpr"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 18 Oct 2003 10:42:36 PM
"JTEM" <jaytem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"little_people" <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote

All in all, I think the Democrats are engaging in hyperbole
when they describe the White House as having put Mrs.
Wilson's life in danger and destroyed her career; her days
skulking along the back alleys of cities like Beirut and
Algiers were already mostly over.


The Republicans didn't just out her, they outed the CIA front
company she had been working out of.

Her husband did that.
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User: "Jeffraham Prestonian"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 01:35:18 AM
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.

Because he called "*****" on the Niger uranium
thing, his *wife* deserved to be exposed...? That
must be in that NEW definition of "patriotism" favored
on the right these days. Kind of like the Coulteresque
twist of the word, "treason." Yeah, we should all
accept outing a CIA operative as a valid GOP political
tool. After all, counterproliferation of WMD is *so*
passé these days.
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User: "dpr"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 03:17:12 AM
"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.


Because he called "*****"

Nope.
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User: "Jeffraham Prestonian"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 06:45:00 PM
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.


Because he called "*****"


Nope.

So, how did her husband "out" her?
--
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User: "dpr"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 09:31:11 PM
"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.


Because he called "*****"


Nope.


So, how did her husband "out" her?

He told the press who and what his wife is.


--
Toucan
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User: "Jeffraham Prestonian"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 09:35:19 PM
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

So, how did her husband "out" her?


He told the press who and what his wife is.

He did that before Bob Novak did it?
--
Toucan
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User: "Clave"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 09:28:37 PM
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message news:vp6hq5ga3qgcba@corp.supernews.com...

"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.


Because he called "*****"


Nope.


So, how did her husband "out" her?


He told the press who and what his wife is.

No, that was Novak.
Jim
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User: "Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 09:35:21 PM
On 19 Oct 2003, "Clave" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com>
posted this:

"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
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"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.


Because he called "*****"


Nope.


So, how did her husband "out" her?


He told the press who and what his wife is.


No, that was Novak.

No, it was one or more of the following:
Karl Rove
Scooter Libby
Elliot Abrahms.
--
"Since when have we Americans been expected to bow submissively to
authority and speak with awe and reverence to those who represent
us?"
--Justice William O. Douglas
Tim
"Fair and Balanced"
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User: "Clave"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 09:38:11 PM
"Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced" <tim@somecallme.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9419C73A2DF52timsomecallme@216.168.3.44...

On 19 Oct 2003, "Clave" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com>
posted this:

"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
news:vp6hq5ga3qgcba@corp.supernews.com...

"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
news:AaSdnefDloFpvA6iRVn-jg@comcast.com...

"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.


Because he called "*****"


Nope.


So, how did her husband "out" her?


He told the press who and what his wife is.


No, that was Novak.


No, it was one or more of the following:

Karl Rove
Scooter Libby
Elliot Abrahms.

D'OH! Of course.
Jim
.



User: "B"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 20 Oct 2003 04:47:17 PM
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in news:vp6hq5ga3qgcba@corp.supernews.com:

"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.


Because he called "*****"


Nope.


So, how did her husband "out" her?


He told the press who and what his wife is.

He did? Now I didn't know that, can you cite?
B.
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User: "Bill Bonde the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 20 Oct 2003 06:02:42 PM
B wrote:


"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in news:vp6hq5ga3qgcba@corp.supernews.com:

"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.


Because he called "*****"


Nope.


So, how did her husband "out" her?


He told the press who and what his wife is.


He did? Now I didn't know that, can you cite?

I think that the person means post Novak column. In any case, Plame was
first outed by Aldrich Ames all the way back in 1994, at least that is
when CIA found out about it. She was taken back to the US for her safety
then. Recently she has been climbing the power structure in official
Washington and according to the New York Times, her status with CIA got
out a bit. If you think the over the top performance by Mr Wilson, her
husband, didn't contribute to the tongue wagging about her, you got to
be kidding.
.


User: "Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 09:33:27 PM
On 19 Oct 2003, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted this:

So, how did her husband "out" her?


He told the press who and what his wife is.

After her cover had already been blown. Even then, he refused to
comment until after it was confirmed in the press and had been widely
reported. People in the White House exposed her, and if you were 1/4
the patriot you claim to be, you'd be demanding that the President do
everything possible to root those persons out.
--
"Since when have we Americans been expected to bow submissively to
authority and speak with awe and reverence to those who represent
us?"
--Justice William O. Douglas
Tim
"Fair and Balanced"
.
User: "Bill Bonde the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 10:23:28 PM
Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced wrote:


On 19 Oct 2003, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted this:

So, how did her husband "out" her?


He told the press who and what his wife is.


After her cover had already been blown.

Here cover was blown in 1994.

Even then, he refused to
comment until after it was confirmed in the press and had been widely
reported. People in the White House exposed her, and if you were 1/4
the patriot you claim to be, you'd be demanding that the President do
everything possible to root those persons out.

Even the New York Times says that her being CIA was out a bit with the
inside the beltway types.
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User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 11:01:06 PM
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After her cover had already been blown.

Her cover was blown in 1994.

Bill, even though you're a right wing nut (yeah, I'm just left of Karl in
your view) you can't actually think publicly identifing an active CIA
agent, and by default all his/her contacts is ever justified, even if
his/her cover has begun to slip, can you?
Think about that. The action was to publicly identify an active CIA agent.
Would YOU do it for political gain? You wouldn't. Fred wouldn't. No
conservative I've ever met would. Yet somebody did. Do you want to live
in a country where literally _anything_ goes if it advances an agenda?
Even if it's your agenda?
Enkidu
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User: "Clave"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 11:07:59 PM
"Enkidu" <Enkidu@spam.me.not> wrote in message
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"Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )"
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<...>

Her cover was blown in 1994.

<...>

Do you want to live
in a country where literally _anything_ goes if it advances an agenda?
Even if it's your agenda?

Since it's his agenda in this case, of course he does.
Duh.
Jim
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User: "Bill Bonde the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 11:55:30 PM
Enkidu wrote:


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"Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )"
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After her cover had already been blown.

Her cover was blown in 1994.


Bill, even though you're a right wing nut (yeah, I'm just left of Karl in
your view) you can't actually think publicly identifing an active CIA
agent, and by default all his/her contacts is ever justified, even if
his/her cover has begun to slip, can you?

Begun to slip? The reason that Novak didn't think he was doing anything
wrong was because her cover was blown and had gotten around with the
inside the beltway types. The New York Times agrees.

Think about that. The action was to publicly identify an active CIA agent.

Whose cover was blown about ten years ago and who was transitioning into
official Washington and people were talking.

Would YOU do it for political gain? You wouldn't. Fred wouldn't. No
conservative I've ever met would. Yet somebody did.

What political gain? Last time I heard the claim was it was retaliation
against her husband.

Do you want to live
in a country where literally _anything_ goes if it advances an agenda?
Even if it's your agenda?

Doesn't literally anything already go when you are talking about the
slimy Liberal Democrats?
.





User: "Bill Bonde the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 07:01:29 PM
Jeffraham Prestonian wrote:


"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.


Because he called "*****"


Nope.


So, how did her husband "out" her?

Since she was outed in 1994 by the CIA traitor Ames, at least some of
this is moot but clearly by behaving in such a high profile manner, Mr
Wilson brought attention to his wife which pretty clearly would
eventually make the political news. The New York Times does say that she
managed to out herself a bit by climbing in the political structure of
Washington DC.
.



User: "Clave"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 01:58:49 AM
"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.

No, Clinton's penis did that.

Because...

No "because," because it ain't fucking so.
Senior Bush officials are responsible, and anyone trying to lay the blame at
Wilson's feet are only identifying themselves as thoughtless tools or soulless
agents.
Jim
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User: "dpr"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 03:17:59 AM
"Clave" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
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"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.


No, Clinton's penis did that.

Why are you leftists always bringing up clintoon.
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User: "Bill Bonde the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 06:19:57 AM
dpr wrote:


"Cloven Hooves, speak of the devil" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
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"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.


No, Clinton's penis did that.


Why are you leftists always bringing up clintoon.

Clinton's penis is both Clave's sword and his shield. As a test, just
try to point out anything Clinton did that might not be perfect. Don't
even mention Lewinsky. Try something like Clinton's lack of effective
efforts against bin Laden, for example. Expect to get Clinton's *****
shoved in your face for it.
.
User: "Clave"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 09:18:05 PM
"Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )"
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dpr wrote:


"Cloven Hooves, speak of the devil" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com>

wrote in message

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"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.


No, Clinton's penis did that.


Why are you leftists always bringing up clintoon.

Clinton's penis is both Clave's sword and his shield...

Sarcasm is my sword, apathy my shield.
Jim
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User: "Bill Bonde the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 19 Oct 2003 10:20:25 PM
Clave wrote:


"Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )"
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dpr wrote:


"Cloven Hooves, speak of the devil" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com>

wrote in message

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"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
news:-L2dnaxph94DrQ-iRVn-uw@comcast.com...

"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.


No, Clinton's penis did that.


Why are you leftists always bringing up clintoon.

Clinton's penis is both Clave's sword and his shield...


Sarcasm is my sword, apathy my shield.

Wouldn't know that from how often you bring up Clinton's penis.
.


User: "jwk"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 20 Oct 2003 01:48:20 PM
"Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote in message news:<3F92735D.D8C3557F@backpacker.com>...

dpr wrote:


"Cloven Hooves, speak of the devil" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
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"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote

Her husband did that.


No, Clinton's penis did that.


Why are you leftists always bringing up clintoon.

Clinton's penis is both Clave's sword and his shield. As a test, just
try to point out anything Clinton did that might not be perfect. Don't
even mention Lewinsky. Try something like Clinton's lack of effective
efforts against bin Laden, for example. Expect to get Clinton's *****
shoved in your face for it.

Why the hell do *you think pointing out anything Clinton did is
relevant to this crime? Why do you keep bringing him up? If he did
everything wrong you wish he had done how does that excuse Bush's
administration?
jwk
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User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 20 Oct 2003 02:03:49 PM
jwk wrote:

"Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote in message news:<3F92735D.D8C3557F@backpacker.com>...

dpr wrote:

"Cloven Hooves, speak of the devil" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
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"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote


Her husband did that.


No, Clinton's penis did that.


Why are you leftists always bringing up clintoon.


Clinton's penis is both Clave's sword and his shield. As a test, just
try to point out anything Clinton did that might not be perfect. Don't
even mention Lewinsky. Try something like Clinton's lack of effective
efforts against bin Laden, for example. Expect to get Clinton's *****
shoved in your face for it.



Why the hell do *you think pointing out anything Clinton did is
relevant to this crime? Why do you keep bringing him up? If he did
everything wrong you wish he had done how does that excuse Bush's
administration?

Because then the Democrats are hypocrites for even suggesting that it's
wrong for Reps to do it too.
--
Fred Stone
Illegitimi non Carborundum
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User: "jwk"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 21 Oct 2003 07:42:26 AM
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message news:<vp8ccin426t955@news.supernews.com>...

jwk wrote:

"Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote in message news:<3F92735D.D8C3557F@backpacker.com>...

dpr wrote:

"Cloven Hooves, speak of the devil" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
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"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote


Her husband did that.


No, Clinton's penis did that.


Why are you leftists always bringing up clintoon.


Clinton's penis is both Clave's sword and his shield. As a test, just
try to point out anything Clinton did that might not be perfect. Don't
even mention Lewinsky. Try something like Clinton's lack of effective
efforts against bin Laden, for example. Expect to get Clinton's *****
shoved in your face for it.



Why the hell do *you think pointing out anything Clinton did is
relevant to this crime? Why do you keep bringing him up? If he did
everything wrong you wish he had done how does that excuse Bush's
administration?


Because then the Democrats are hypocrites for even suggesting that it's
wrong for Reps to do it too.

That's ***** and you know it Fred. You aren't that dumb, so why do
you say stupid things like that? Can I murder someone, then when they
try to execute me point at Charles Manson and say shrilly "well he was
worse and you didn't execute him!" No. Nothing Clinton did (even if
he did *all the things you accuse him of) excuses anyone else for
crimes they commit. You are just using him to deflect the issue
because you don't want to admit that your hero committed a major
crime.
jwk
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User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 21 Oct 2003 10:26:00 AM
jwk wrote:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message news:<vp8ccin426t955@news.supernews.com>...

jwk wrote:


"Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote in message news:<3F92735D.D8C3557F@backpacker.com>...


dpr wrote:


"Cloven Hooves, speak of the devil" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
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"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote



Her husband did that.


No, Clinton's penis did that.


Why are you leftists always bringing up clintoon.


Clinton's penis is both Clave's sword and his shield. As a test, just
try to point out anything Clinton did that might not be perfect. Don't
even mention Lewinsky. Try something like Clinton's lack of effective
efforts against bin Laden, for example. Expect to get Clinton's *****
shoved in your face for it.



Why the hell do *you think pointing out anything Clinton did is
relevant to this crime? Why do you keep bringing him up? If he did
everything wrong you wish he had done how does that excuse Bush's
administration?


Because then the Democrats are hypocrites for even suggesting that it's
wrong for Reps to do it too.



That's ***** and you know it Fred.

Yep, I sure do. Isn't satire effective?

You aren't that dumb, so why do
you say stupid things like that? Can I murder someone, then when they
try to execute me point at Charles Manson and say shrilly "well he was
worse and you didn't execute him!" No. Nothing Clinton did (even if
he did *all the things you accuse him of) excuses anyone else for
crimes they commit. You are just using him to deflect the issue
because you don't want to admit that your hero committed a major
crime.

Now remember that when you see somebody doing the same with a
right-winger as the target instead of Clinton.
--
Fred Stone
Illegitimi non Carborundum
.
User: "jwk"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 22 Oct 2003 10:00:08 AM
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message news:<vpajvuajeusj8b@news.supernews.com>...

jwk wrote:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message news:<vp8ccin426t955@news.supernews.com>...

jwk wrote:


"Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote in message news:<3F92735D.D8C3557F@backpacker.com>...


dpr wrote:


"Cloven Hooves, speak of the devil" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:vp4dfpd4ingg3f@corp.supernews.com...


"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote



Her husband did that.


No, Clinton's penis did that.


Why are you leftists always bringing up clintoon.


Clinton's penis is both Clave's sword and his shield. As a test, just
try to point out anything Clinton did that might not be perfect. Don't
even mention Lewinsky. Try something like Clinton's lack of effective
efforts against bin Laden, for example. Expect to get Clinton's *****
shoved in your face for it.



Why the hell do *you think pointing out anything Clinton did is
relevant to this crime? Why do you keep bringing him up? If he did
everything wrong you wish he had done how does that excuse Bush's
administration?


Because then the Democrats are hypocrites for even suggesting that it's
wrong for Reps to do it too.



That's ***** and you know it Fred.


Yep, I sure do. Isn't satire effective?

You aren't that dumb, so why do
you say stupid things like that? Can I murder someone, then when they
try to execute me point at Charles Manson and say shrilly "well he was
worse and you didn't execute him!" No. Nothing Clinton did (even if
he did *all the things you accuse him of) excuses anyone else for
crimes they commit. You are just using him to deflect the issue
because you don't want to admit that your hero committed a major
crime.


Now remember that when you see somebody doing the same with a
right-winger as the target instead of Clinton.

I take that as you admission that you were full of it.
jwk
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: See the Democrat's Plame ad 22 Oct 2003 10:54:26 AM
jwk wrote:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message news:<vpajvuajeusj8b@news.supernews.com>...

jwk wrote:


Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message news:<vp8ccin426t955@news.supernews.com>...


jwk wrote:



"Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote in message news:<3F92735D.D8C3557F@backpacker.com>...



dpr wrote:



"Cloven Hooves, speak of the devil" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:vp4dfpd4ingg3f@corp.supernews.com...



"Jeffraham Prestonian" <toucan@mailblocks.com> wrote in message
news:-L2dnaxph94DrQ-iRVn-uw@comcast.com...



"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote




Her husband did that.


No, Clinton's penis did that.


Why are you leftists always bringing up clintoon.


Clinton's penis is both Clave's sword and his shield. As a test, just
try to point out anything Clinton did that might not be perfect. Don't
even mention Lewinsky. Try something like Clinton's lack of effective
efforts against bin Laden, for example. Expect to get Clinton's *****
shoved in your face for it.



Why the hell do *you think pointing out anything Clinton did is
relevant to this crime? Why do you keep bringing him up? If he did
everything wrong you wish he had done how does that excuse Bush's
administration?


Because then the Democrats are hypocrites for even suggesting that it's
wrong for Reps to do it too.



That's ***** and you know it Fred.


Yep, I sure do. Isn't satire effective?


You aren't that dumb, so why do
you say stupid things like that? Can I murder someone, then when they
try to execute me point at Charles Manson and say shrilly "well he was
worse and you didn't execute him!" No. Nothing Clinton did (even if
he did *all the things you accuse him of) excuses anyone else for
crimes they commit. You are just using him to deflect the issue
because you don't want to admit that your hero committed a major
crime.


Now remember that when you see somebody doing the same with a
right-winger as the target instead of Clinton.



I take that as you admission that you were full of it.

I take it you don't like having your chain pulled.
--
Fred Stone
Illegitimi non Carborundum
.














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