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28 Dec 2003 02:41:34 AM |
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Self-hating Marxist Jews in Israel. |
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(...)"The roots of Israeli anti-Semitism lie firstly in the failure of
Israel, after fifty years and five wars, to provide security (it is
still the most dangerous place in the world for Jews). Secondly, the
crumbling of the Soviet Union removed the mental and spiritual
foundation of the Israeli Left (much of its thought-world stemmed from
elements in Communism). Thirdly, the religious community generally,
and the Haredi community in particular, have a power of faith and an
authenticity, quite different to the cultural emptiness of the
secularist Jew." (...)
http://www.acpr.org.il/publications/policy-papers/pp022-xs.html
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| Title: Re: Self-hating Marxist Jews in Israel. |
28 Dec 2003 03:50:09 AM |
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<snip>
It's "ThroatWOBBLER Mangrove", not "ThroatWARBLER Mangrove".
Idiot.
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28 Dec 2003 07:55:17 AM |
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Quoth the raven
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 04:50:09 -0500, raven1
<cflpurqryrcunag@synfuznvy.pbz> wrote in message
<nm9tuv43ens1ka036m7su9331sha2duknd@4ax.com>:
<snip>
It's "ThroatWOBBLER Mangrove", not "ThroatWARBLER Mangrove".
No no no, it's spelled "Raymond Luxury Yacht", but it's pronounced
"Throat Warbler Mangrove".
Idiot.
You're a very silly man. Boom.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000JSJE/103-6235072-5803806?v=glance&vi=quotes-trivia
Interviewer: Good evening. I have with me in the studio tonight one of
the country's leading skin specialists, Raymond Luxury Yacht.
Raymond Luxury Yacht: That's not my name!
tries literal pronunciation
Raymond Luxury Yacht: No no no, it's spelled, "Raymond Luxury Yacht,"
but it's pronounced, "Throat Warbler Mangrove."
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| User: "Intoxxinated" |
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29 Dec 2003 11:05:21 AM |
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"Throatwarbler Mangrove" <Raymond_Luxury_Y@tcht.com> wrote in message
news:3fefdd9b.35695342@news.dodo.com.au...
: Quoth the raven
: On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 04:50:09 -0500, raven1
: <cflpurqryrcunag@synfuznvy.pbz> wrote in message
: <nm9tuv43ens1ka036m7su9331sha2duknd@4ax.com>:
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: >It's "ThroatWOBBLER Mangrove", not "ThroatWARBLER Mangrove".
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: No no no, it's spelled "Raymond Luxury Yacht", but it's pronounced
: "Throat Warbler Mangrove".
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: >Idiot.
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: You're a very silly man. Boom.
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000JSJE/103-6235072-5
803806?v=glance&vi=quotes-trivia
Like amazon is known for putting up accurate quotes? *****. They
can't even get song titles right.
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28 Dec 2003 10:17:32 AM |
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On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:55:17 GMT,
(Throatwarbler Mangrove) wrote:
Quoth the raven
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 04:50:09 -0500, raven1
<cflpurqryrcunag@synfuznvy.pbz> wrote in message
<nm9tuv43ens1ka036m7su9331sha2duknd@4ax.com>:
<snip>
It's "ThroatWOBBLER Mangrove", not "ThroatWARBLER Mangrove".
No no no, it's spelled "Raymond Luxury Yacht", but it's pronounced
"Throat Warbler Mangrove".
That's funny. My copy of "All the Words", the official scripts, says
"Throat wobbler".
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| User: "Throatwarbler Mangrove" |
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28 Dec 2003 06:34:34 PM |
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On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:17:32 -0500, raven1
<cflpurqryrcunag@synfuznvy.pbz> wrote in message
<6f0uuvsit2ita5cloa7gg9dqkmn34rf7gq@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:55:17 GMT,
(Throatwarbler Mangrove) wrote:
Quoth the raven
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 04:50:09 -0500, raven1
<cflpurqryrcunag@synfuznvy.pbz> wrote in message
<nm9tuv43ens1ka036m7su9331sha2duknd@4ax.com>:
<snip>
It's "ThroatWOBBLER Mangrove", not "ThroatWARBLER Mangrove".
No no no, it's spelled "Raymond Luxury Yacht", but it's pronounced
"Throat Warbler Mangrove".
That's funny. My copy of "All the Words", the official scripts, says
"Throat wobbler".
Well, if we assume that you're giving an honest accurate
representation of what your copy says, then your copy's either a
misprint, or it's not the genuine article. Because it's just plain
wrong.
(BTW, I spelled that wrong. It *is correct to spell it wrong -
however, everyone usually pronounces it rong - that is to say, the
right pronunciation of wrong is always rong. Got it yet?)
Anyway, here again, for your edification, is the *correct* version,
from the URL, that you dishonestly snipped -
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000JSJE/103-6235072-5803806?v=glance&vi=quotes-trivia
------------Begin quote -
Raymond Luxury Yacht: No no no, it's spelled, "Raymond Luxury Yacht,"
but it's pronounced, "Throat Warbler Mangrove."
------------End quote.
There, now how much easier could I possibly make it for you?
Duuhh, but it's a sure bet that you still don't get it, because you
have been arguing this same point (and have been proven wrong) on
several previous occasions.
Not only that, but you even missed the deliberate (and very obvious)
mistake that I made elsewhere in my previous post.
Never mind, I'll wait for someone else to point it out, since you're
so utterly clueless.
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| User: "raven1" |
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28 Dec 2003 11:31:37 PM |
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:34:34 GMT,
(Throatwarbler Mangrove) wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:17:32 -0500, raven1
<cflpurqryrcunag@synfuznvy.pbz> wrote in message
<6f0uuvsit2ita5cloa7gg9dqkmn34rf7gq@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:55:17 GMT,
(Throatwarbler Mangrove) wrote:
Quoth the raven
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 04:50:09 -0500, raven1
<cflpurqryrcunag@synfuznvy.pbz> wrote in message
<nm9tuv43ens1ka036m7su9331sha2duknd@4ax.com>:
<snip>
It's "ThroatWOBBLER Mangrove", not "ThroatWARBLER Mangrove".
No no no, it's spelled "Raymond Luxury Yacht", but it's pronounced
"Throat Warbler Mangrove".
That's funny. My copy of "All the Words", the official scripts, says
"Throat wobbler".
Well, if we assume that you're giving an honest accurate
representation of what your copy says, then your copy's either a
misprint, or it's not the genuine article. Because it's just plain
wrong.
The members of Monty Python, who wrote the scripts contained therein,
would probably be surprised to hear that.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000JSJE/103-6235072-5803806?v=glance&vi=quotes-trivia
Why exactly would you consider an online review of a DVD set to be
more accurate than the actual shooting scripts officially issued in
"All The Words"?
------------Begin quote -
Raymond Luxury Yacht: No no no, it's spelled, "Raymond Luxury Yacht,"
but it's pronounced, "Throat Warbler Mangrove."
------------End quote.
There, now how much easier could I possibly make it for you?
You could pull your head out of your *****, pick up "All The Words"
(Volume 1),
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679726470/qid=1072675164//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i0_xgl14/002-1419074-7830468?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
and look it up for yourself. The sketch you're quoting from is on
page 259, from episode 19, and the script spells it "Throatwobbler",
not "Throatwarbler". Mr. Luxury-Yacht also appears in episode 22, on
page 298, seeking plastic surgery for his nose, where the
pronunciations of his name is also spelled "Throatwobbler Mangrove".
If you don't like it, I suggest you take it up with the Pythons, who,
I understand, actually wrote the bloody scripts, and most likely knew
how they wanted the names of the characters spelled.
Duuhh, but it's a sure bet that you still don't get it, because you
have been arguing this same point (and have been proven wrong) on
several previous occasions.
Nope. You're wrong according to the actual scripts, and you can look
it up, as the saying goes.
Not only that, but you even missed the deliberate (and very obvious)
mistake that I made elsewhere in my previous post.
You assume wrongly that I was interested enough in the content of your
post to bother to read it. I'm correcting you on the spelling of your
nym in the interests of preserving Pythonian accuracy.
Never mind, I'll wait for someone else to point it out, since you're
so utterly clueless.
Hmm. You quote from an amazon.com review, and I quote from an official
publication of the shooting scripts. Who's the clueless one here?
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| User: "Throatwarbler Mangrove" |
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30 Dec 2003 05:44:22 AM |
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:31:37 -0500, raven1
<cflpurqryrcunag@synfuznvy.pbz> wrote in message
<d0fvuv44b156cgvc0ars33tb30svidrvoq@4ax.com>:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:34:34 GMT,
(Throatwarbler Mangrove) wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:17:32 -0500, raven1
<cflpurqryrcunag@synfuznvy.pbz> wrote in message
<6f0uuvsit2ita5cloa7gg9dqkmn34rf7gq@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:55:17 GMT,
(Throatwarbler Mangrove) wrote:
Quoth the raven
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 04:50:09 -0500, raven1
<cflpurqryrcunag@synfuznvy.pbz> wrote in message
<nm9tuv43ens1ka036m7su9331sha2duknd@4ax.com>:
<snip>
It's "ThroatWOBBLER Mangrove", not "ThroatWARBLER Mangrove".
No no no, it's spelled "Raymond Luxury Yacht", but it's pronounced
"Throat Warbler Mangrove".
That's funny. My copy of "All the Words", the official scripts, says
"Throat wobbler".
Well, if we assume that you're giving an honest accurate
representation of what your copy says, then your copy's either a
misprint, or it's not the genuine article. Because it's just plain
wrong.
The members of Monty Python, who wrote the scripts contained therein,
would probably be surprised to hear that.
And there's the clue, Oh Clueless One. It's nothing to do with what
you read. It's what you HEAR that's at the crux of the matter.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000JSJE/103-6235072-5803806?v=glance&vi=quotes-trivia
Why exactly would you consider an online review of a DVD set to be
more accurate than the actual shooting scripts officially issued in
"All The Words"?
See above, and re-read the clue that I left there for the clueless
one. The review was written by someone who watched (and listened to)
what was on the DVD, in order to be able to write the review.
The script, OTOH, was written by a script-writer who believed that the
performers would perform the script as they (the script-writers) wrote
it.
Are you with me yet? Has the penny dropped yet?
Didn't think so.
I'll type this slowly.
The script was written *before* the performers performed it.
The reviewer watched (and listened to!) the DVD **AFTER** the
performers performed it!
You still don't get it, do you thickhead?
------------Begin quote -
Raymond Luxury Yacht: No no no, it's spelled, "Raymond Luxury Yacht,"
but it's pronounced, "Throat Warbler Mangrove."
------------End quote.
There, now how much easier could I possibly make it for you?
You could pull your head out of your *****, pick up "All The Words"
(Volume 1),
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679726470/qid=1072675164//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i0_xgl14/002-1419074-7830468?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
and look it up for yourself. The sketch you're quoting from is on
page 259, from episode 19, and the script spells it "Throatwobbler",
not "Throatwarbler".
I don't care how YOU, or the scriptwriters think it's *spelled*! (FYI,
it is in fact spelled Raymond Luxury Yacht. (Or Raymond Luxury Yatcht,
either will do)).
No. I'm only concerned with how it's *pronounced*. And it is
pronounced Throatwarbler Mangrove.
Being as I am Raymond Luxury Yacht (or Yatcht), I obviously know that
my name is pronounced Throatwarbler Mangrove.
Mr. Luxury-Yacht also appears in episode 22, on
page 298, seeking plastic surgery for his nose, where the
pronunciations of his name is also spelled "Throatwobbler Mangrove".
Once again, that is incorrect. It is spelled Raymond Luxury Yacht, or
possibly Raymond Luxury Yatcht.
If you don't like it, I suggest you take it up with the Pythons, who,
I understand, actually wrote the bloody scripts, and most likely knew
how they wanted the names of the characters spelled.
Look, I don't want to argue about that.
But, I'll just say this: you need to look at the script again.
It is spelled either Raymond Luxury Yacht, or Raymond Luxury Yatcht.
If you want to know how it's _pronounced_, though, then you must take
my word for it.
Duuhh, but it's a sure bet that you still don't get it, because you
have been arguing this same point (and have been proven wrong) on
several previous occasions.
Nope. You're wrong according to the actual scripts, and you can look
it up, as the saying goes.
No good looking up the scripts. That will only tell me how it's
spelled.
Not only that, but you even missed the deliberate (and very obvious)
mistake that I made elsewhere in my previous post.
You assume wrongly that I was interested enough in the content of your
post to bother to read it. I'm correcting you on the spelling of your
nym in the interests of preserving Pythonian accuracy.
I got the spelling right. It's either Raymond Luxury Yacht or Raymond
Luxury Yatcht. The pronunciation you already know (or should do.)
Never mind, I'll wait for someone else to point it out, since you're
so utterly clueless.
Hmm. You quote from an amazon.com review, and I quote from an official
publication of the shooting scripts. Who's the clueless one here?
You, obviously. You are still arguing about the spelling, when the
discussion is not, and never has been, about the spelling.
This discussion is and has always been about the *pronunciation*!!
Anyway, I'm not going to argue with you anymore.
BTW, how do you pronounce raven1?
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30 Dec 2003 12:04:16 PM |
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You, obviously. You are still arguing about the spelling, when the
discussion is not, and never has been, about the spelling.
Excuse me, but that isn't just silly, it's a flat-out lie.
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| User: "Throatwarbler Mangrove" |
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03 Jan 2004 05:52:26 AM |
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On 30 Dec 2003 10:04:16 -0800, (raven1) wrote in
message <88ba1938.0312301004.575a537@posting.google.com>:
You, obviously. You are still arguing about the spelling, when the
discussion is not, and never has been, about the spelling.
Excuse me, but that isn't just silly, it's a flat-out lie.
It's a joke, you anal-retentive humorless prat. :)
I tire of humiliating you.
What sort of an idiot takes issue with how someone "pronounces" their
pseudonym, for godsake?
BTW, you haven't told me how you pronounce raven1. Is it pronounced
ravin' one?
Raymond Luxury Yatttchtt.
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| User: "raven1" |
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28 Dec 2003 11:51:45 PM |
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:34:34 GMT,
(Throatwarbler Mangrove) wrote:
Well, if we assume that you're giving an honest accurate
representation of what your copy says, then your copy's either a
misprint, or it's not the genuine article. Because it's just plain
wrong.
No, it's not. Here's a lookup on the text from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0679726470/ref=sib_rdr_srch/002-1419074-7830468?v=search-inside&keywords=throatwobbler+mangrove
2 references to throatwobbler mangrove in this book:
1. on Page 259:
"... Interviewer I'm sorry - Raymond Luxury Yach-t. Raymond No, no, no
- it's spelt Raymond Luxury Yach-t, but it's pronounced `Throatwobbler
Mangrove'. Interviewer You're a very silly man and I'm not going to
interview you. Raymond Ah, anti-semitism! Interviewer Not at all. ..."
2. on Page 298:
"... Do sit down, please. Mr Luxury Yacht (GRAHAM) Ah, no, no. My name
is spelt `Luxury Yacht' but it's pronounced Throatwobbler Mangrove.
Specialist Well, do sit down then Mr Throatwobbler Mangrove. Mr Luxury
Yacht Thank you. Specialist Now, what seems to be ..."
Mind you, this is a book of the official shooting scripts, not an
editorial review of a DVD set. Sorry, but you lose.
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| User: "Throatwarbler Mangrove" |
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30 Dec 2003 06:09:32 AM |
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:51:45 -0500, raven1
<cflpurqryrcunag@synfuznvy.pbz> wrote in message
<u3gvuvc3fcqs958ldeivogp78v3sr2pe0i@4ax.com>:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:34:34 GMT,
(Throatwarbler Mangrove) wrote:
Well, if we assume that you're giving an honest accurate
representation of what your copy says, then your copy's either a
misprint, or it's not the genuine article. Because it's just plain
wrong.
No, it's not.
Yes it IS!
Here's a lookup on the text from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0679726470/ref=sib_rdr_srch/002-1419074-7830468?v=search-inside&keywords=throatwobbler+mangrove
I'm not interested in that link.
This is the one you need to go to -
http://www.acpr.org.il/publications/policy-papers/pp022-xs.html
Er no, sorry, don't click on that one.
That's the one about Self-hating Marxist Jews in Israel.
THIS is the one you want to click on -
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000JSJE/103-6235072-5803806?v=glance&vi=quotes-trivia
<snip irrelevant stuff>
Mind you, this is a book of the official shooting scripts, not an
editorial review of a DVD set. Sorry, but you lose.
You're a very silly man.
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30 Dec 2003 12:48:32 PM |
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:09:32 GMT,
(Throatwarbler Mangrove) wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:51:45 -0500, raven1
<cflpurqryrcunag@synfuznvy.pbz> wrote in message
<u3gvuvc3fcqs958ldeivogp78v3sr2pe0i@4ax.com>:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:34:34 GMT,
(Throatwarbler Mangrove) wrote:
Well, if we assume that you're giving an honest accurate
representation of what your copy says, then your copy's either a
misprint, or it's not the genuine article. Because it's just plain
wrong.
No, it's not.
Yes it IS!
Here's a lookup on the text from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0679726470/ref=sib_rdr_srch/002-1419074-7830468?v=search-inside&keywords=throatwobbler+mangrove
I'm not interested in that link.
This is the one you need to go to -
http://www.acpr.org.il/publications/policy-papers/pp022-xs.html
Er no, sorry, don't click on that one.
That's the one about Self-hating Marxist Jews in Israel.
THIS is the one you want to click on -
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000JSJE/103-6235072-5803806?v=glance&vi=quotes-trivia
Already saw it. It's based on someone transcribing the sketch, in
which Graham puts on a very silly voice. They obviously mishear it,
however, as I've seen and heard the sketch hundreds of times, and
always clearly heard "Throatwobbler" even before I saw the script.
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28 Dec 2003 05:20:17 PM |
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The whole world is a dangerous place for Jews because in the whole world
there are idiots.
"Throatwarbler Mangrove" <Raymond_Luxury_Y@tcht.com> wrote in message
news:3fee9698.17513662@news.dodo.com.au...
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(...)"The roots of Israeli anti-Semitism lie firstly in the failure of
Israel, after fifty years and five wars, to provide security (it is
still the most dangerous place in the world for Jews). Secondly, the
crumbling of the Soviet Union removed the mental and spiritual
foundation of the Israeli Left (much of its thought-world stemmed from
elements in Communism). Thirdly, the religious community generally,
and the Haredi community in particular, have a power of faith and an
authenticity, quite different to the cultural emptiness of the
secularist Jew." (...)
http://www.acpr.org.il/publications/policy-papers/pp022-xs.html
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28 Dec 2003 09:05:42 AM |
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"Bill Smith" <bsmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3feebd1e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
The whole world is a dangerous place for Jews because in the whole world
there are idiots.
Jews made it that way, nobody else had anything to do with it! As you sow,
so shall you reap!
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| User: "Mickey" |
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28 Dec 2003 10:03:10 AM |
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"intrepid5" <intrepid5@JoiMail.com> wrote in message
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"Bill Smith" <bsmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3feebd1e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
The whole world is a dangerous place for Jews because in the whole world
there are idiots.
Jews made it that way, nobody else had anything to do with it! As you sow,
so shall you reap!
Ah, so Sept. 11th gives the USA the right to eradicate all of Islam...
thanks for pointing that out.
Mickey
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| User: "Diabolik" |
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28 Dec 2003 10:54:44 PM |
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:wqOdnXJandrZYnOiRVn-vw@comcast.com...
"intrepid5" <intrepid5@JoiMail.com> wrote in message
news:vutsa23gji27f3@corp.supernews.com...
"Bill Smith" <bsmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3feebd1e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
The whole world is a dangerous place for Jews because in the whole
world
there are idiots.
Jews made it that way, nobody else had anything to do with it! As you
sow,
so shall you reap!
Ah, so Sept. 11th gives the USA the right to eradicate all of Islam...
And useless turds.
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