Religions > Atheism > Semi - Regular Evil Atheist Quote -- No Conscience Required
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25 May 2004 07:36:52 PM |
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Semi - Regular Evil Atheist Quote -- No Conscience Required |
"I came to carry out the struggle, not to kill people. Even now, and you can
look at me: am I a savage person? My conscience is clear."
- Pol Pot
Just gotta love those communists eh? Seriously, what has the whole atheist
thing brought to the world, other than maniacal mass murderers or witty
smart-asses?
H.B.
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| User: "lao fei zhu" |
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25 May 2004 11:48:40 PM |
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<hughbetcha@yessiree.ca> wrote in message
news:hYCdnbSs7uQEey7dRVn2hw@giganews.com...
"I came to carry out the struggle, not to kill people. Even now, and you
can
look at me: am I a savage person? My conscience is clear."
- Pol Pot
Just gotta love those communists eh? Seriously, what has the whole atheist
thing brought to the world, other than maniacal mass murderers or witty
smart-asses?
okay, everybody together:
mary, mary quite contrary
"how does your garden grow?"
"with silver bells and cockle shells
and pretty maids all in a row."
baby: the other other white meat
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| User: "Carol Lee Smith" |
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25 May 2004 08:32:29 PM |
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"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have
good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for
good people to do evil things, that takes religion." --Steven Weinberg
On Wed, 26 May 2004 wrote:
"I came to carry out the struggle, not to kill people. Even now, and you can
look at me: am I a savage person? My conscience is clear."
- Pol Pot
Just gotta love those communists eh?
Atheists do not = communists.
Communists do not = atheists.
<< Seriously, what has the whole atheist thing brought to the world,
other than maniacal mass murderers or witty smart-asses?>>
Just what is meant by "the whole atheist thing" ??
Among the gifts this religion thing has brought to the world:
Crusades
Inquisitions
Pogroms
Holocausts
Sexual (and other) abuse of children by the clergy.
9/11
And that is just for starters.
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have
good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for
good people to do evil things, that takes religion." --Steven Weinberg
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"But I had gradually come, by this time, to see that the Old Testament
from its manifestly false history of the world, with the Tower of
Babel, the rainbow at sign, etc., etc., and from its attributing to
God the feelings of a revengeful tyrant, was no more to be trusted
than the sacred books of the Hindoos, or the beliefs of any
barbarian." - Charles Darwin (The Autobiography of Charles Darwin)
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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25 May 2004 09:36:52 PM |
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"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1040525202629.3615F-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have
good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for
good people to do evil things, that takes religion." --Steven Weinberg
On Wed, 26 May 2004 wrote:
"I came to carry out the struggle, not to kill people. Even now, and you
can
look at me: am I a savage person? My conscience is clear."
- Pol Pot
Just gotta love those communists eh?
Atheists do not = communists.
Communists do not = atheists.
Communists != evil.
<< Seriously, what has the whole atheist thing brought to the world,
other than maniacal mass murderers or witty smart-asses?>>
Equality, fairness, tolerence, ...reality.
Just what is meant by "the whole atheist thing" ??
Among the gifts this religion thing has brought to the world:
Crusades
Inquisitions
Pogroms
Holocausts
Sexual (and other) abuse of children by the clergy.
9/11
And that is just for starters.
see above.
Sorry to piggyback Carol.
--
apatriot #23, aa #1779, Grand Pubba, EAC Department of Oxygen Deprivation
Gary Bohn
Conservatism is not about tradition and morality, hasn't been for many
decades...It is about the putative biological and spiritual superiority of
the wealthy.
Greg Bear
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| User: "Carol Lee Smith" |
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25 May 2004 10:50:37 PM |
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On Tue, 25 May 2004, Gary Bohn wrote:
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1040525202629.3615F-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...
<< Seriously, what has the whole atheist thing brought to the world,
other than maniacal mass murderers or witty smart-asses?>>
Equality, fairness, tolerence, ...reality.
Just what is meant by "the whole atheist thing" ??
Among the gifts this religion thing has brought to the world:
Crusades
Inquisitions
Pogroms
Holocausts
Sexual (and other) abuse of children by the clergy.
9/11
And that is just for starters.
see above.
Sorry to piggyback Carol.
No problem.
Any time.
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| User: "Cap Tool" |
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26 May 2004 12:19:45 AM |
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Communists are indeed Atheists. You may of Communists confused with
"Communalists" that are largely theistic.
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1040525202629.3615F-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have
good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for
good people to do evil things, that takes religion." --Steven Weinberg
On Wed, 26 May 2004 wrote:
"I came to carry out the struggle, not to kill people. Even now, and you
can
look at me: am I a savage person? My conscience is clear."
- Pol Pot
Just gotta love those communists eh?
Atheists do not = communists.
Communists do not = atheists.
<< Seriously, what has the whole atheist thing brought to the world,
other than maniacal mass murderers or witty smart-asses?>>
Just what is meant by "the whole atheist thing" ??
Among the gifts this religion thing has brought to the world:
Crusades
Inquisitions
Pogroms
Holocausts
Sexual (and other) abuse of children by the clergy.
9/11
And that is just for starters.
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have
good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for
good people to do evil things, that takes religion." --Steven Weinberg
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"But I had gradually come, by this time, to see that the Old Testament
from its manifestly false history of the world, with the Tower of
Babel, the rainbow at sign, etc., etc., and from its attributing to
God the feelings of a revengeful tyrant, was no more to be trusted
than the sacred books of the Hindoos, or the beliefs of any
barbarian." - Charles Darwin (The Autobiography of Charles Darwin)
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| User: "Lannie Ruvin" |
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26 May 2004 11:43:58 AM |
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"Cap Tool" <capitalisttool@comcast.ent> wrote
Of course most atheists are genocidal. <
Of course, you can prove that?
Communists are indeed Atheists. You may of Communists confused with
"Communalists" that are largely theistic.
ACTS 4:32
And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one
soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he
possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
4:33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the
resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as
were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices
of the things that were sold,
4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was
made unto every man according as he had need.
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1040525202629.3615F-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have
good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for
good people to do evil things, that takes religion." --Steven Weinberg
On Wed, 26 May 2004 wrote:
"I came to carry out the struggle, not to kill people. Even now, and you
can
look at me: am I a savage person? My conscience is clear."
- Pol Pot
Just gotta love those communists eh?
Atheists do not = communists.
Communists do not = atheists.
<< Seriously, what has the whole atheist thing brought to the world,
other than maniacal mass murderers or witty smart-asses?>>
Just what is meant by "the whole atheist thing" ??
Among the gifts this religion thing has brought to the world:
Crusades
Inquisitions
Pogroms
Holocausts
Sexual (and other) abuse of children by the clergy.
9/11
And that is just for starters.
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have
good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for
good people to do evil things, that takes religion." --Steven Weinberg
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"But I had gradually come, by this time, to see that the Old Testament
from its manifestly false history of the world, with the Tower of
Babel, the rainbow at sign, etc., etc., and from its attributing to
God the feelings of a revengeful tyrant, was no more to be trusted
than the sacred books of the Hindoos, or the beliefs of any
barbarian." - Charles Darwin (The Autobiography of Charles Darwin)
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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26 May 2004 09:58:44 AM |
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 05:19:45 +0000 in episode
<RNVsc.116601$iF6.10953620@attbi_s02> we saw our hero "Cap Tool"
<capitalisttool@comcast.ent>:
Communists are indeed Atheists. You may of Communists confused with
"Communalists" that are largely theistic.
And yet when the USSR collapsed we found Russia was massively theist. Most
all post-Soviet nations are largely theist. Looks to me like the "atheism"
that Marx babbled about was just another veneer on plain ol' power lust.
There simply is no real connection between the two. Communists *used
"atheism" to attack a rival political power. Actual belief or lack of
belief was irrelevant...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"I think it's the worst kept secret in Washington.
That everybody - everybody I talk to in Washington
has known and fully knows what [the neo-conservative]
agenda was and what they were trying to do."
[Retired General Anthony Zinni]
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| User: "William" |
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26 May 2004 03:12:24 AM |
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 05:19:45 GMT, "Cap Tool"
<capitalisttool@comcast.ent> wrote:
Communists are indeed Atheists. You may of Communists confused with
"Communalists" that are largely theistic.
Top posting is bad manners.
Some atheists are communists and most are not. Some christians are
communists and most are not (many bishops have been communists and
preached it as being compatible with christianity). If you are
equating communism with atheism you are lying.
William
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1040525202629.3615F-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have
good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for
good people to do evil things, that takes religion." --Steven Weinberg
On Wed, 26 May 2004 wrote:
"I came to carry out the struggle, not to kill people. Even now, and you
can
look at me: am I a savage person? My conscience is clear."
- Pol Pot
Just gotta love those communists eh?
Atheists do not = communists.
Communists do not = atheists.
<< Seriously, what has the whole atheist thing brought to the world,
other than maniacal mass murderers or witty smart-asses?>>
Just what is meant by "the whole atheist thing" ??
Among the gifts this religion thing has brought to the world:
Crusades
Inquisitions
Pogroms
Holocausts
Sexual (and other) abuse of children by the clergy.
9/11
And that is just for starters.
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have
good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for
good people to do evil things, that takes religion." --Steven Weinberg
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"But I had gradually come, by this time, to see that the Old Testament
from its manifestly false history of the world, with the Tower of
Babel, the rainbow at sign, etc., etc., and from its attributing to
God the feelings of a revengeful tyrant, was no more to be trusted
than the sacred books of the Hindoos, or the beliefs of any
barbarian." - Charles Darwin (The Autobiography of Charles Darwin)
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| User: "James Brock lll" |
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05 Jun 2004 08:11:48 PM |
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"William" <telige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote in message
news:40b44ec8.2719898@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk...
On Wed, 26 May 2004 05:19:45 GMT, "Cap Tool"
<capitalisttool@comcast.ent> wrote:
Communists are indeed Atheists. You may of Communists confused with
"Communalists" that are largely theistic.
Top posting is bad manners.
Some atheists are communists and most are not. Some christians are
communists and most are not (many bishops have been communists and
preached it as being compatible with christianity). If you are
equating communism with atheism you are lying.
So what is wrong with being a communist or an athiest? The
offical position of communist governments is atheism. The
only benefit of communism is it would rid the world of religion
and other superstitutions. The best thing that could happen
in Iraqi and the rest of the Islamic world would be for a Marxist
government to take over.
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| User: "James Brock lll" |
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05 Jun 2004 08:04:37 PM |
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"William" <telige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote in message
news:40b44ec8.2719898@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk...
On Wed, 26 May 2004 05:19:45 GMT, "Cap Tool"
<capitalisttool@comcast.ent> wrote:
Communists are indeed Atheists. You may of Communists confused with
"Communalists" that are largely theistic.
Top posting is bad manners.
Some atheists are communists and most are not. Some christians are
communists and most are not (many bishops have been communists and
preached it as being compatible with christianity). If you are
equating communism with atheism you are lying.
William
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1040525202629.3615F-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would
have
good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But
for
good people to do evil things, that takes religion." --Steven Weinberg
On Wed, 26 May 2004 wrote:
"I came to carry out the struggle, not to kill people. Even now, and
you
can
look at me: am I a savage person? My conscience is clear."
- Pol Pot
Just gotta love those communists eh?
Atheists do not = communists.
Communists do not = atheists.
<< Seriously, what has the whole atheist thing brought to the world,
other than maniacal mass murderers or witty smart-asses?>>
Just what is meant by "the whole atheist thing" ??
Among the gifts this religion thing has brought to the world:
Crusades
Inquisitions
Pogroms
Holocausts
Sexual (and other) abuse of children by the clergy.
9/11
And that is just for starters.
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would
have
good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But fo
r
good people to do evil things, that takes religion." --Steven Weinberg
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"But I had gradually come, by this time, to see that the Old Testament
from its manifestly false history of the world, with the Tower of
Babel, the rainbow at sign, etc., etc., and from its attributing to
God the feelings of a revengeful tyrant, was no more to be trusted
than the sacred books of the Hindoos, or the beliefs of any
barbarian." - Charles Darwin (The Autobiography of Charles Darwin)
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| User: "Lannie Ruvin" |
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26 May 2004 11:39:39 AM |
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(William) wrote in message news:<40b44ec8.2719898@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk>...
On Wed, 26 May 2004 05:19:45 GMT, "Cap Tool"
<capitalisttool@comcast.ent> wrote:
Communists are indeed Atheists. You may of Communists confused with
"Communalists" that are largely theistic.
Top posting is bad manners.
Some atheists are communists and most are not. Some christians are
communists and most are not (many bishops have been communists and
preached it as being compatible with christianity). If you are
equating communism with atheism you are lying.
ACTS 4:32
And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one
soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he
possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
4:33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the
resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as
were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices
of the things that were sold,
4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was
made unto every man according as he had need.
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1040525202629.3615F-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have
good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for
good people to do evil things, that takes religion." --Steven Weinberg
....
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"But I had gradually come, by this time, to see that the Old Testament
from its manifestly false history of the world, with the Tower of
Babel, the rainbow at sign, etc., etc., and from its attributing to
God the feelings of a revengeful tyrant, was no more to be trusted
than the sacred books of the Hindoos, or the beliefs of any
barbarian." - Charles Darwin (The Autobiography of Charles Darwin)
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th" |
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26 May 2004 08:27:04 PM |
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(Lannie Ruvin) wrote in
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telige@mail.clara.fl.com (William) wrote in message
news:<40b44ec8.2719898@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk>...
On Wed, 26 May 2004 05:19:45 GMT, "Cap Tool"
<capitalisttool@comcast.ent> wrote:
Communists are indeed Atheists. You may of Communists confused with
"Communalists" that are largely theistic.
Top posting is bad manners.
Some atheists are communists and most are not. Some christians are
communists and most are not (many bishops have been communists and
preached it as being compatible with christianity). If you are
equating communism with atheism you are lying.
ACTS 4:32
And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one
soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he
possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
4:33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the
resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as
were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices
of the things that were sold,
4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was
made unto every man according as he had need.
Looks like Marx copied the communist manifesto straight out of the bible.
LK.
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1040525202629.3615F-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you
would have good people doing good things and evil people doing
evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes
religion." --Steven Weinberg
...
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"But I had gradually come, by this time, to see that the Old
Testament from its manifestly false history of the world, with the
Tower of Babel, the rainbow at sign, etc., etc., and from its
attributing to God the feelings of a revengeful tyrant, was no
more to be trusted than the sacred books of the Hindoos, or the
beliefs of any barbarian." - Charles Darwin (The Autobiography of
Charles Darwin)
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| User: "" |
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25 May 2004 09:31:27 PM |
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On 25-May-2004, Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
Communists do not = atheists.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless
world - It is the opium of the people."
-Karl Marx
Among the gifts this religion thing has brought to the world:
Crusades
An atrocious period of history, but motivated mostly by politics.
Inquisitions
In the entire 350 year history of the Spanish inquisition, about 30,000
people died, less than 100 a year. A good ol' atheist boy like Stalin killed
that many before breakfast.
Pogroms
Most of which were politically motivated... and the worst of which were
carried out by the communists... er... like Pol Pot.
Holocausts
I assume you mean 'the' holocaust. Now, the National Socialist Party (Nazis)
was hardly a religious organization, but a decidedly atheist one.
Sexual (and other) abuse of children by the clergy.
Which occurs FAR less often than abuse in secular society.
9/11
I can't speak for Islamic fundamentalists, but fundamentalism of any sort is
bad. (As we have seen...)
"Where reason cannot wade, there faith may swim."
-Thomas Watson
"Credo ut Intelligam." (I believe in order to understand.)
-St. Augustine
"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge in the field of Truth and
Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods."
-Albert Einstein
"It's knowledge has reached the limits of this universe and it must evolve.
What is requires of it's God is the answer to it's question. 'Is there
nothing more?'"
-Spock ;)
H.
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| User: "Steve" |
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27 May 2004 12:17:55 AM |
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<hughbetcha@yessiree.ca> wrote in message
news:FrCdnUzxQ8rpnCndRVn2hw@giganews.com...
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: On 25-May-2004, Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
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: > Communists do not = atheists.
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: "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless
: world - It is the opium of the people."
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: -Karl Marx
: > Among the gifts this religion thing has brought to the world:
: >
: > Crusades
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: An atrocious period of history, but motivated mostly by politics.
:
: > Inquisitions
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: In the entire 350 year history of the Spanish inquisition, about 30,000
: people died, less than 100 a year. A good ol' atheist boy like Stalin
killed
: that many before breakfast.
:
see the following
http://www.angelfire.com/de/knowledgeoftruth/romancatholic.html
about 50 million killed because they wouldnt follow the RCC....
: > Pogroms
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: Most of which were politically motivated... and the worst of which were
: carried out by the communists... er... like Pol Pot.
:
: > Holocausts
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: I assume you mean 'the' holocaust. Now, the National Socialist Party
(Nazis)
: was hardly a religious organization, but a decidedly atheist one.
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wrong hitler believed in your god..
: > Sexual (and other) abuse of children by the clergy.
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: Which occurs FAR less often than abuse in secular society.
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but then the secular society doesnt claim to be inspired by a god and have
the *truth* of the world either
: > 9/11
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: I can't speak for Islamic fundamentalists, but fundamentalism of any sort
is
: bad. (As we have seen...)
religious ferver anyway
: "Where reason cannot wade, there faith may swim."
: -Thomas Watson
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: "Credo ut Intelligam." (I believe in order to understand.)
: -St. Augustine
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: "Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge in the field of Truth and
: Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods."
: -Albert Einstein
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: "It's knowledge has reached the limits of this universe and it must
evolve.
: What is requires of it's God is the answer to it's question. 'Is there
: nothing more?'"
: -Spock ;)
:
: H.
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| User: "" |
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27 May 2004 03:33:55 PM |
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On 26-May-2004, "Steve" <dontbother@hotmail.com> wrote:
see the following
http://www.angelfire.com/de/knowledgeoftruth/romancatholic.html
about 50 million killed because they wouldnt follow the RCC....
Are you KIDDING me? Some delusional fundamentalist writes a pile of paranoid
B.S. and you believe it? They hate us more than you do.
Here, try this.
..
http://www.questia.com/Index.jsp?CRID=catholicism&OFFID=se1&KEY=catholic_history
It's called an e-n-c-y-c-l-o-p-e-d-i-a, and better yet, impartial.
wrong hitler believed in your god..
There is but ONE God. Hitler was Austrian, are all Austrians power mad
psychopaths? Go tell that the Governor of California. ...on second thought,
never mind.
H.
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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26 May 2004 12:52:47 PM |
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<hughbetcha@yessiree.ca> wrote in message
news:FrCdnUzxQ8rpnCndRVn2hw@giganews.com...
On 25-May-2004, Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
Communists do not = atheists.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless
world - It is the opium of the people."
-Karl Marx
He was right!
Among the gifts this religion thing has brought to the world:
Crusades
An atrocious period of history, but motivated mostly by politics.
Inquisitions
In the entire 350 year history of the Spanish inquisition, about 30,000
people died, less than 100 a year. A good ol' atheist boy like Stalin
killed
that many before breakfast.
<snip>
Why do you insist on equating Karl Marx with the USSR , China or any other
despotic Communism? You must be American.
--
apatriot #23, aa #1779, Grand Pubba, EAC Department of Oxygen Deprivation
Gary Bohn
Conservatism is not about tradition and morality, hasn't been for many
decades...It is about the putative biological and spiritual superiority of
the wealthy.
Greg Bear
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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26 May 2004 10:01:03 AM |
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writes:
Crusades
An atrocious period of history, but motivated mostly by politics.
So were The Killing Fields of Pol Pot. Pot wasn't interested in
religion or its abolition per se; it was just a competing ideology.
"Communism" was Pot's religion. To argue that he did or didn't have "a
real religion" is to wander into semantics.
Elf
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| User: "David V." |
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25 May 2004 10:11:16 PM |
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wrote:
On 25-May-2004, Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu>
wrote:
Communists do not = atheists.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the
heart of a heartless world - It is the opium of the
people."
-Karl Marx
So. That doesn't mean that all Atheists are communists. Most
of the communists I know are theists. And it's obvious that
you don't understand what Marx was trying to say.
--
David V.
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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25 May 2004 09:37:50 PM |
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wrote:
On 25-May-2004, Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
Communists do not = atheists.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless
world - It is the opium of the people."
-Karl Marx
Well, we see that YOU can't get through the day without a hit....
Paul
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Semi - Regular Evil Atheist Quote -- No Conscience Required |
26 May 2004 05:45:08 PM |
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On 25-May-2004, Paul Duca <tomservo@comcast.net> wrote:
Well, we see that YOU can't get through the day without a hit....
Well, we see that YOU can't get through the day without a hit....
Well, we see that YOU can't get through the day without a hit....
Just *who* smokes the drugs around here?
H.
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| User: "lao fei zhu" |
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26 May 2004 07:38:56 PM |
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<hughbetcha@yessiree.ca> wrote in message
news:T92dncWo-ah1gCjdRVn2uQ@giganews.com...
On 25-May-2004, Paul Duca <tomservo@comcast.net> wrote:
Well, we see that YOU can't get through the day without a hit....
Well, we see that YOU can't get through the day without a hit....
Well, we see that YOU can't get through the day without a hit....
Just *who* smokes the drugs around here?
rush limbaugh?
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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25 May 2004 09:38:05 PM |
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wrote:
On 25-May-2004, Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
Communists do not = atheists.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless
world - It is the opium of the people."
-Karl Marx
Well, we see that YOU can't get through the day without a hit....
Paul
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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25 May 2004 09:38:13 PM |
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wrote:
On 25-May-2004, Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
Communists do not = atheists.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless
world - It is the opium of the people."
-Karl Marx
Well, we see that YOU can't get through the day without a hit....
Paul
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| User: "Mark Richardson" |
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25 May 2004 10:07:09 PM |
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 02:38:13 GMT, Paul Duca <tomservo@comcast.net>
wrote:
hughbetcha@yessiree.ca wrote:
On 25-May-2004, Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
Communists do not = atheists.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless
world - It is the opium of the people."
-Karl Marx
Well, we see that YOU can't get through the day without a hit....
Clever comeback!
Not worth posting three times though.
Mark.
--
Mark Richardson mDOTrichardsonATutasDOTeduDOTau
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
(Sarcastic Middle aged Atheists with a Sense of Humour)
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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26 May 2004 05:19:48 PM |
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Mark Richardson wrote:
On Wed, 26 May 2004 02:38:13 GMT, Paul Duca <tomservo@comcast.net>
wrote:
hughbetcha@yessiree.ca wrote:
On 25-May-2004, Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
Communists do not = atheists.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless
world - It is the opium of the people."
-Karl Marx
Well, we see that YOU can't get through the day without a hit....
Clever comeback!
Not worth posting three times though.
I had a posting problem....
Paul
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| User: "bob young" |
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26 May 2004 12:22:18 AM |
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wrote:
On 25-May-2004, Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
Communists do not = atheists.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless
world - It is the opium of the people."
-Karl Marx
Quite true wherever one is coming from
Among the gifts this religion thing has brought to the world:
Crusades
An atrocious period of history, but motivated mostly by politics.
Nonsense., Medeival times were sructured wholly around the church, the cross
and faith in going to heaven. It was the politicians who had no choice but to
accept the bishops and their flock otherwise they would be fibnished off by the
populace. Learn your history
Inquisitions
In the entire 350 year history of the Spanish inquisition, about 30,000
people died, less than 100 a year. A good ol' atheist boy like Stalin killed
that many before breakfast.
and 30,000 died in the name os superstition. The religious killers of the time
wree no different from Stalin. [At least he killed in the name of communism,
not in the name of any religion]
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim
that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
Cardinal Bellarmine,
[1615, during the trial of Galileo]
Pogroms
Most of which were politically motivated... and the worst of which were
carried out by the communists... er... like Pol Pot.
See above and refer to the Nazis. USA, Britain and the Allies AND the Germans
all praying in similar churches for the death and destreuction of the opposite
side! What pathetic idiocy
Holocausts
I assume you mean 'the' holocaust. Now, the National Socialist Party (Nazis)
was hardly a religious organization, but a decidedly atheist one.
See above
Sexual (and other) abuse of children by the clergy.
Which occurs FAR less often than abuse in secular society.
are they not supposed to know better?
9/11
I can't speak for Islamic fundamentalists, but fundamentalism of any sort is
bad. (As we have seen...)
"Where reason cannot wade, there faith may swim."
-Thomas Watson
Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to
evade the need to think and evaluate evidence.
Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of,
the lack of evidence.
[Richard Dawkins]
"Credo ut Intelligam." (I believe in order to understand.)
-St. Augustine
Logical consequences are the scarecrows of fools and the beacons of wise men
[Huxley]
"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge in the field of Truth and
Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods."
-Albert Einstein
It would seem that men always need some idiotic fiction in the name of which
they can hate one another. Once it was religion. Now it is the State.
[Albert Einstein]
"It's knowledge has reached the limits of this universe and it must evolve.
What is requires of it's God is the answer to it's question. 'Is there
nothing more?'"
-Spock ;)
"The most ridiculous concept ever perpetrated by Homo Sapiens is that the Lord
God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of the Universes, wants the saccharine
adoration of his creations, that he can be persuaded by their prayers, and
becomes petulant if he does not receive this flattery. Yet this ridiculous
notion, without one real shred of evidence to bolster it, has gone on to found
one of the oldest, largest and least productive industries in history."
[Robert Heinlein]
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| User: "Scott" |
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26 May 2004 02:21:01 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:40B42817.FDC93BD7@netvigator.com...
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to
claim
that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
Cardinal Bellarmine,
[1615, during the trial of Galileo]
http://www.newoxfordreview.org/jun00/thomaslessl.html
Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to
evade the need to think and evaluate evidence.
Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of,
the lack of evidence.
[Richard Dawkins]
Hey I like this quote. ...I might need to use it sometime in an argument
for a belief in inalienable human rights.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th" |
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26 May 2004 08:19:08 PM |
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"Scott" <scott@nospam.net> wrote in news:x66tc.1015$It2.388
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com:
http://www.newoxfordreview.org/jun00/thomaslessl.html
Worthless apologetics. The statement about Bruno not being scientific is
particularly stupid. It is irrelevant why Bruno believed what he did. His
execution was unjust period!
LK.
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| User: "Scott" |
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27 May 2004 09:00:56 AM |
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"Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th" <Llanzlan@Llurdiaxorb.net> wrote in message
news:Xns94F6877ADDC7FLlanzlanLlurdiaxorbn@203.97.37.6...
"Scott" <scott@nospam.net> wrote in news:x66tc.1015$It2.388
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com:
http://www.newoxfordreview.org/jun00/thomaslessl.html
Worthless apologetics. The statement about Bruno not being scientific is
particularly stupid. It is irrelevant why Bruno believed what he did. His
execution was unjust period!
*Relatively* speaking for the time and culture in which he lived it was
just! Good and evil, right and wrong, just and unjust, are all relative to
the culture in question.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th" |
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30 May 2004 07:38:56 PM |
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"Scott" <scott@nospam.net> wrote in
news:swmtc.1376$j%7.610@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com:
"Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th" <Llanzlan@Llurdiaxorb.net> wrote in
message news:Xns94F6877ADDC7FLlanzlanLlurdiaxorbn@203.97.37.6...
"Scott" <scott@nospam.net> wrote in news:x66tc.1015$It2.388
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com:
http://www.newoxfordreview.org/jun00/thomaslessl.html
Worthless apologetics. The statement about Bruno not being scientific
is particularly stupid. It is irrelevant why Bruno believed what he
did. His execution was unjust period!
*Relatively* speaking for the time and culture in which he lived it
was just! Good and evil, right and wrong, just and unjust, are all
relative to the culture in question.
That doesn't mean we can't judge the actions of those in the past. Why
otherwise would the RC have apologised over their treatment of Gallileo.
LK.
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