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"quibbler" |
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24 Oct 2003 12:02:19 AM |
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Semi OT: Ridiculous Anti-abortion bumpersticker |
I saw a bumperstick the other day that reminded me of spam from
Pangborn. It proved that the person with the sticker had absolutely no
fucking clue about the subject upon which she felt at liberty to
stupidly sound off about. It said, "Hitler made six million choices
too...", or something similar, implying that abortion is tantamount to
the holocaust. Actually, it seem that hypochristians like to invoke
the holocaust a lot these days, which is rather ironic, considering the
fact that many good xians were complicit in allowing the holocaust to
claim as many lives as it did. There were, actually, many stories that
leaked out about the NAZI death camps, and Jewish organizations tried
desperately to spread this news and get something done about it. But
most non-jews dismissed these as hysterical stories and exaggerations,
which they were not. Then there's the fact that born and raised xians
like Hitler seemed to think he was doing the Lord's work. It would not
be the first time their god demanded genocide. So I think that the
attempt to sound morally indignant about something like the holocaust
rings rather hollow coming from most xians.
I also can't help but comment upon the absurdity of the analogy between
a pro-choice position and Adolf Hitler implementing the holocaust.
Hitler, unlike a mother, was not seeking to stop a tiny fertilized lump
of cells in his own body from being born. He was usurping the rights
of many thinking, productive, educated, adult German citizens who were
quite capable of voicing their objections and feeling pain. Unlike in
cases of abortion, Hitler did not need to kill Jews to get rid of them,
but could have just deported them all. Again, recall how the good
xians in America rejected Jewish asylum seekers who sailed to the US
aboard the St Louis. Unlike a mother, Hitler's choice did not involve
having to raise and provide for dependent children for long lengths of
time. Hitler's "choice" also had nothing to do with personal privacy
or personal rights, unlike abortion. The so-called choices that Hitler
were on a national level, rather than a strictly personal one. Plus,
even the most fertile mother on the planet can't have 6 million
unplanned pregnancies :). Obviously, the rhetoric that anti-abortion
idiots, like the ***** with this bumpersticker, spew is intended to
completely demonize the opposition by ludicrously conflating a pro-
choice position with the worst acts of Adolf Hitler. I think it nicely
demonstrates that such anti-choice zealots are both intellectually and
morally bankrupt. It's amazing to me that these folks were able to
unite such unmitigated gall and profound ignorance in a single sticker.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Brian Victor" |
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| Title: Re: Semi OT: Ridiculous Anti-abortion bumpersticker |
24 Oct 2003 08:48:23 AM |
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quibbler wrote:
I saw a bumperstick the other day that reminded me of spam from
Pangborn. It proved that the person with the sticker had absolutely no
fucking clue about the subject upon which she felt at liberty to
stupidly sound off about. It said, "Hitler made six million choices
too...", or something similar, implying that abortion is tantamount to
the holocaust.
Here in the middle of PA some anti-abortion activists decided to stand
outside one of the university buildings a couple of weeks ago with
images from abortions and the holocaust side by side. Apparently this
rhetoric is becoming popular (again?). From what I understand they also
managed to attract a group of people protesting their display.
Needless to say, a few alert citizens wrote to the paper condemning the
display. Those letters prompted several others who stated quite plainly
that abortion was genocide and the comparison to the holocaust was
completely valid.
Makes me wish I could find someplace civilized to live.
--
Brian
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Semi OT: Ridiculous Anti-abortion bumpersticker |
24 Oct 2003 01:53:58 PM |
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"Brian Victor" <bhv1@psu.edu> wrote
Here in the middle of PA some anti-abortion activists decided
to stand outside one of the university buildings a couple of
weeks ago with images from abortions and the holocaust side
by side. Apparently this rhetoric is becoming popular (again?).
What you folks don't understand is how much of an improvement
this represents.
Yes, I said "improvement."
If you don't believe me than spend a little time on Google, pulling
up all the right-wing stories explaining how abortion is nothing
more than a legal means for Satanists & Pagans to practice ritual
human sacrifice.
I know, I know, most simply compare abortion to ritual human
sacrifice, but there are many people & groups who claim that
the imagined "similarities" go beyond coincidence.
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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| Title: Re: Semi OT: Ridiculous Anti-abortion bumpersticker |
24 Oct 2003 10:06:46 AM |
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Here in the middle of PA some anti-abortion activists decided to stand
outside one of the university buildings a couple of weeks ago with
images from abortions and the holocaust side by side. Apparently this
rhetoric is becoming popular (again?). From what I understand they also
managed to attract a group of people protesting their display.
Perhape we could counter by showing pictures of some of the infamous Nazi
book-burnings followed up by the right-wingers burnings and bulldozings of
Harry Potter and the Dixie Chicks, but the Chicks did that already.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Semi OT: Ridiculous Anti-abortion bumpersticker |
24 Oct 2003 11:07:02 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:48:23 GMT, Brian Victor <bhv1@psu.edu> posted
in alt.atheism:
Needless to say, a few alert citizens wrote to the paper condemning the
display. Those letters prompted several others who stated quite plainly
that abortion was genocide
gen·o·cide ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jn-sd)
n.
The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national,
racial, political, or ethnic group.
Which is why I always ask morons like that, "To which national,
racial, political or ethnic group does 'fetus' belong?"
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"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious
conviction."
- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Semi OT: Ridiculous Anti-abortion bumpersticker |
24 Oct 2003 04:38:52 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:48:23 GMT, Brian Victor <bhv1@psu.edu> wrote:
quibbler wrote:
I saw a bumperstick the other day that reminded me of spam from
Pangborn. It proved that the person with the sticker had absolutely no
fucking clue about the subject upon which she felt at liberty to
stupidly sound off about. It said, "Hitler made six million choices
too...", or something similar, implying that abortion is tantamount to
the holocaust.
Here in the middle of PA some anti-abortion activists decided to stand
outside one of the university buildings a couple of weeks ago with
images from abortions and the holocaust side by side. Apparently this
rhetoric is becoming popular (again?). From what I understand they also
managed to attract a group of people protesting their display.
Needless to say, a few alert citizens wrote to the paper condemning the
display. Those letters prompted several others who stated quite plainly
that abortion was genocide and the comparison to the holocaust was
completely valid.
Hitler would have loved abortionists - they think alike..
Makes me wish I could find someplace civilized to live.
So please hurry up and go. Take evilallah and yang with you.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Semi OT: Ridiculous Anti-abortion bumpersticker |
24 Oct 2003 06:59:08 PM |
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In article <hr6jpvgals2e7jh61ra40at871k2p4ord3@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:48:23 GMT, Brian Victor <bhv1@psu.edu> wrote:
quibbler wrote:
I saw a bumperstick the other day that reminded me of spam from
Pangborn. It proved that the person with the sticker had absolutely no
fucking clue about the subject upon which she felt at liberty to
stupidly sound off about. It said, "Hitler made six million choices
too...", or something similar, implying that abortion is tantamount to
the holocaust.
Here in the middle of PA some anti-abortion activists decided to stand
outside one of the university buildings a couple of weeks ago with
images from abortions and the holocaust side by side. Apparently this
rhetoric is becoming popular (again?). From what I understand they also
managed to attract a group of people protesting their display.
Needless to say, a few alert citizens wrote to the paper condemning the
display. Those letters prompted several others who stated quite plainly
that abortion was genocide and the comparison to the holocaust was
completely valid.
Hitler would have loved abortionists - they think alike..
Makes me wish I could find someplace civilized to live.
So please hurry up and go. Take evilallah and yang with you.
Oh the irony of a theist who hangs out in alt.atheism and thinks
atheists are the people who need to go. I've got some news for you
pukkke. You're the one who needs to get the ***** out of here.
Imaginary Jebus may love you, but everyone else thinks your an *****.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Semi OT: Ridiculous Anti-abortion bumpersticker |
24 Oct 2003 11:08:21 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:38:52 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
Hitler would have loved abortionists
Nah, morons like you and Hitler - Christian morons - hate abortion.
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"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Semi OT: Ridiculous Anti-abortion bumpersticker |
25 Oct 2003 01:03:13 PM |
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In article <qotjpvoca9omlga7phpvuid0is4s4389rh@Pern.rk>,
rukbat@pern.invalid says...
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:38:52 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
Hitler would have loved abortionists
Nah, morons like you and Hitler - Christian morons - hate abortion.
It is rather sad that morons like puke aren't even aware of the
historical *fact* that fascists like Hitler and Mussolini outlawed
abortions very early on. Therefore, Hitler actually loved anti-
abortionists, contrary to puke's ignorant revisionism. Hitler wanted
canon-fodder for his wars of aggression, just like neo-cons do today.
You can't launch a fundy crusade without canon-fodder.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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