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"Brian Westley" |
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07 Oct 2003 09:02:13 AM |
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semi-OT: fear of sabotage by mistranslation at Gitmo |
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/07/politics/07GITM.html?ex=1066104000&en=99834f1b65ef7f0c&ei=5062
WASHINGTON, Oct. 6 -- American interpreters at the military prison at
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, who are under suspicion of espionage may have
sabotaged interviews with detainees by inaccurately translating
interrogators' questions and prisoners' answers, senior American
officials said on Monday.
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Anyone remember when the military fired a bunch of desperately
needed military interpreters because they were gay back in 2002?
http://www.tampabaycoalition.com/files/1115GayLinguistsArticles.htm
Think military intelligence will ever connect up these two events?
Think the military will ever stop enforcing regs based on religious
tenets against homosexuality and start basing decisions on real life?
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Merlyn LeRoy
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: semi-OT: fear of sabotage by mistranslation at Gitmo |
07 Oct 2003 12:26:08 PM |
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"Brian Westley" <westley@visi.com> wrote
Anyone remember when the military fired a bunch of
desperately needed military interpreters because they
were gay back in 2002?
Yes.
Nobody cared. Even the 'phobes and the neo-cons couldn't
be bothered to so much as applaud it, it was such a non-event.
A friend of mine does amateur political cartoons, and I just
knew he was going to do one on this subject. What I was
hoping for was something like, I dunno, maybe a mother
over the crumpled body of her -- devastation fills the back
ground -- and an Army officer comforts her by saying, "Things
could be worse. Your child might've been saved by a
homosexual!"
Or something like that. He wimped out though, came out with
this:
http://www.brucegarrett.com/cartoon_11_4_2002.htm
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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| Title: Re: semi-OT: fear of sabotage by mistranslation at Gitmo |
07 Oct 2003 10:08:33 AM |
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WASHINGTON, Oct. 6 -- American interpreters at the military prison at
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, who are under suspicion of espionage may have
sabotaged interviews with detainees by inaccurately translating
interrogators' questions and prisoners' answers, senior American
officials said on Monday.
...
Anyone remember when the military fired a bunch of desperately
needed military interpreters because they were gay back in 2002?
http://www.tampabaycoalition.com/files/1115GayLinguistsArticles.htm
Think military intelligence will ever connect up these two events?
Think the military will ever stop enforcing regs based on religious
tenets against homosexuality and start basing decisions on real life?
It's the Confederate mentality that the GOP is spreading through the rest of
the military. They would rather lose the war than admit to the mistake.
I am certain that Osama jumped for joy had he heard of the military's decision
to can the "Monterey Nine." For any military to dispose of a valuable and
expensive asset during a time of conflict is gross incompetence and the officer
which made the decision to do so should not only be cashiered but
court-martialed.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet #1)
former US Army Cryptologic Linguist, Arabic (Saudi Dialect) and DLI graduate
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: semi-OT: fear of sabotage by mistranslation at Gitmo |
07 Oct 2003 10:53:53 AM |
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Brian Westley wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/07/politics/07GITM.html?ex=1066104000&en=99834f1b65ef7f0c&ei=5062
WASHINGTON, Oct. 6 -- American interpreters at the military prison at
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, who are under suspicion of espionage may have
sabotaged interviews with detainees by inaccurately translating
interrogators' questions and prisoners' answers, senior American
officials said on Monday.
To be honest, and this is no doubt my distrust of the Bush Regime speaking here, I expect that the
"espionage" in which Yee (the Muslim chaplain) and this translator were engaged in was nothing more than
delivering documents proving that the internees are being mistreated or held under false pretenses. There
can be no other reason why, after working at Gitmo for so long, the "treason" of these two men -- who have,
no doubt, *always* been under close watch -- should suddenly become an issue.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: semi-OT: fear of sabotage by mistranslation at Gitmo |
07 Oct 2003 12:30:22 PM |
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"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote
To be honest, and this is no doubt my distrust of the Bush
Regime speaking here, I expect that the "espionage" in
which Yee (the Muslim chaplain) and this translator were
engaged in was nothing more than delivering documents
proving that the internees are being mistreated or held
under false pretenses.
That's been openly speculated in the press... assuming they
had nothing more to go on than naked specualtion (which
maybe I shouldn't assume).
Not that the lunatics need yet another motive, but arresting
these people does add to the "Holy war" mentality, the
good-Christians against the evil, slime sucking Islamic
barbarians.
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: semi-OT: fear of sabotage by mistranslation at Gitmo |
07 Oct 2003 06:35:58 PM |
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"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:3F82E191.5BD67938@serv.net...
Brian Westley wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/07/politics/07GITM.html?ex=1066104000&en=99834f1b65ef7f0c&ei=5062
WASHINGTON, Oct. 6 -- American interpreters at the military prison at
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, who are under suspicion of espionage may have
sabotaged interviews with detainees by inaccurately translating
interrogators' questions and prisoners' answers, senior American
officials said on Monday.
To be honest, and this is no doubt my distrust of the Bush Regime speaking
here, I expect that the
"espionage" in which Yee (the Muslim chaplain) and this translator were
engaged in was nothing more than
delivering documents proving that the internees are being mistreated or
held under false pretenses. There
can be no other reason why, after working at Gitmo for so long, the
"treason" of these two men -- who have,
no doubt, *always* been under close watch -- should suddenly become an
issue.
Yeah, and did you ever notice that the name Rush is just one letter off from
Bush. And the letter that's different only requires a single line under the
R. Coincidence? We all know that there are no such things. How about
blowing the lid of of this conspiracy for your next investigative report.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: semi-OT: fear of sabotage by mistranslation at Gitmo |
07 Oct 2003 10:45:31 PM |
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On 07 Oct 2003 14:02:13 GMT, Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> posted
in alt.atheism:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/07/politics/07GITM.html?ex=1066104000&en=99834f1b65ef7f0c&ei=5062
WASHINGTON, Oct. 6 -- American interpreters at the military prison at
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, who are under suspicion of espionage may have
sabotaged interviews with detainees by inaccurately translating
interrogators' questions and prisoners' answers, senior American
officials said on Monday.
...
Anyone remember when the military fired a bunch of desperately
needed military interpreters because they were gay back in 2002?
http://www.tampabaycoalition.com/files/1115GayLinguistsArticles.htm
Think military intelligence will ever connect up these two events?
Think the military will ever stop enforcing regs based on religious
tenets against homosexuality and start basing decisions on real life?
Are you trying to say that the military *doesn't* shoot itself in the
foot almost every time it pulls the trigger? :)
--
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solve them."
-Isaac Asimov
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The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence.
- (Will Rogers)
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