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Senate Democrats Call For Probe of White House Coercion |
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Senate Dems Call for Probe of WH Coercion
By Justin Rood - September 15, 2006, 2:06 PM
We've been following the growing concern among senior senators that the
White House pressured top military lawyers to weaken their opposition to the
administration's torture policy.
Now, Sens. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and Richard Durbin (D-IL) are asking for an
investigation.
Text of the letter after the jump.
Update: Here's an image of the letter.
September 14, 2006
The Honorable Arlen Specter
Chairman
Committee on Judiciary
United States Senate
224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Chairman Specter,
We recently learned of allegations that, in meeting earlier this week, the
White House and Department of Defense General Counsel William J. Haynes
pressured senior judge advocates general into signing a letter on the
Administration's proposed revisions to the War Crimes Act and Common Article
3 of the Geneva Conventions. It is alleged that the JAGs were kept in this
meeting for several hours, until they agreed to sign the letter. That letter
was subsequently used to suggest that the JAGs supported the Administration's
proposals.
These allegations are disturbingly similar to other allegations that Mr.
Haynes has ignored, circumvented, or overruled the nation's senior military
lawyers. The Judiciary Committee has explored Mr. Haynes' attempts to
overrule the JAGs in preparing interrogation guidelines that departed from
long-standing military tradition and led to detainee abuses.
We believe these new allegations raise serious further questions about Mr.
Haynes' fitness to serve on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth
Circuit. We urge you to thoroughly investigate and hold hearings on these
claims and others relating to Mr. Haynes' treatment of the JAGs before the
committee takes any further action on his nomination.
Sincerely,
Edward M. Kennedy Richard J. Durbin
Cc: Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Ranking Democrat, Committee on Judiciary
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In article <5IGdnY4UWeaUz5HYnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001538.php
Senate Dems Call for Probe of WH Coercion
By Justin Rood - September 15, 2006, 2:06 PM
We've been following the growing concern among senior senators that the
White House pressured top military lawyers to weaken their opposition to the
administration's torture policy.
Now, Sens. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and Richard Durbin (D-IL) are asking for an
investigation.
Text of the letter after the jump.
Update: Here's an image of the letter.
September 14, 2006
The Honorable Arlen Specter
Chairman
Committee on Judiciary
United States Senate
224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Chairman Specter,
We recently learned of allegations that, in meeting earlier this week, the
White House and Department of Defense General Counsel William J. Haynes
pressured senior judge advocates general into signing a letter on the
Administration's proposed revisions to the War Crimes Act and Common Article
3 of the Geneva Conventions. It is alleged that the JAGs were kept in this
meeting for several hours, until they agreed to sign the letter. That letter
was subsequently used to suggest that the JAGs supported the Administration's
proposals.
These allegations are disturbingly similar to other allegations that Mr.
Haynes has ignored, circumvented, or overruled the nation's senior military
lawyers. The Judiciary Committee has explored Mr. Haynes' attempts to
overrule the JAGs in preparing interrogation guidelines that departed from
long-standing military tradition and led to detainee abuses.
We believe these new allegations raise serious further questions about Mr.
Haynes' fitness to serve on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth
Circuit. We urge you to thoroughly investigate and hold hearings on these
claims and others relating to Mr. Haynes' treatment of the JAGs before the
committee takes any further action on his nomination.
Sincerely,
Edward M. Kennedy Richard J. Durbin
Cc: Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Ranking Democrat, Committee on Judiciary
Bush is really pushing on this. I wonder why? Perhaps he is worried that
under the present law, he could be prosecuted as a war criminal some
day. If he can pressure Congress into redefining the law to allow the
torture tactics that were allowed in the past, he might believe that he
could then ex post facto pardon himself.
I also wonder if he realizes how much this is making us look like
barbarians to the rest of the world.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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16 Sep 2006 02:30:35 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
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In article <5IGdnY4UWeaUz5HYnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001538.php
Senate Dems Call for Probe of WH Coercion
By Justin Rood - September 15, 2006, 2:06 PM
We've been following the growing concern among senior senators that the
White House pressured top military lawyers to weaken their opposition to
the
administration's torture policy.
Now, Sens. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and Richard Durbin (D-IL) are asking for an
investigation.
Text of the letter after the jump.
Update: Here's an image of the letter.
September 14, 2006
The Honorable Arlen Specter
Chairman
Committee on Judiciary
United States Senate
224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Chairman Specter,
We recently learned of allegations that, in meeting earlier this week,
the
White House and Department of Defense General Counsel William J. Haynes
pressured senior judge advocates general into signing a letter on the
Administration's proposed revisions to the War Crimes Act and Common
Article
3 of the Geneva Conventions. It is alleged that the JAGs were kept in
this
meeting for several hours, until they agreed to sign the letter. That
letter
was subsequently used to suggest that the JAGs supported the
Administration's
proposals.
These allegations are disturbingly similar to other allegations that Mr.
Haynes has ignored, circumvented, or overruled the nation's senior
military
lawyers. The Judiciary Committee has explored Mr. Haynes' attempts to
overrule the JAGs in preparing interrogation guidelines that departed
from
long-standing military tradition and led to detainee abuses.
We believe these new allegations raise serious further questions about
Mr.
Haynes' fitness to serve on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth
Circuit. We urge you to thoroughly investigate and hold hearings on these
claims and others relating to Mr. Haynes' treatment of the JAGs before
the
committee takes any further action on his nomination.
Sincerely,
Edward M. Kennedy Richard J. Durbin
Cc: Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Ranking Democrat, Committee on Judiciary
Bush is really pushing on this. I wonder why? Perhaps he is worried that
under the present law, he could be prosecuted as a war criminal some
day. If he can pressure Congress into redefining the law to allow the
torture tactics that were allowed in the past, he might believe that he
could then ex post facto pardon himself.
I also wonder if he realizes how much this is making us look like
barbarians to the rest of the world.
He doesn't care. His failures, his ego and his fears are all
that matter to him. He has to succeed now, no matter
what.
--
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Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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18 Sep 2006 12:28:17 AM |
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In article <sfSdnRspTsGvZJHYnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-97BD62.23072216092006@news.giganews.com...
In article <5IGdnY4UWeaUz5HYnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001538.php
Senate Dems Call for Probe of WH Coercion
By Justin Rood - September 15, 2006, 2:06 PM
We've been following the growing concern among senior senators that the
White House pressured top military lawyers to weaken their opposition to
the
administration's torture policy.
Now, Sens. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and Richard Durbin (D-IL) are asking for an
investigation.
Text of the letter after the jump.
Update: Here's an image of the letter.
September 14, 2006
The Honorable Arlen Specter
Chairman
Committee on Judiciary
United States Senate
224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Chairman Specter,
We recently learned of allegations that, in meeting earlier this week,
the
White House and Department of Defense General Counsel William J. Haynes
pressured senior judge advocates general into signing a letter on the
Administration's proposed revisions to the War Crimes Act and Common
Article
3 of the Geneva Conventions. It is alleged that the JAGs were kept in
this
meeting for several hours, until they agreed to sign the letter. That
letter
was subsequently used to suggest that the JAGs supported the
Administration's
proposals.
These allegations are disturbingly similar to other allegations that Mr.
Haynes has ignored, circumvented, or overruled the nation's senior
military
lawyers. The Judiciary Committee has explored Mr. Haynes' attempts to
overrule the JAGs in preparing interrogation guidelines that departed
from
long-standing military tradition and led to detainee abuses.
We believe these new allegations raise serious further questions about
Mr.
Haynes' fitness to serve on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth
Circuit. We urge you to thoroughly investigate and hold hearings on these
claims and others relating to Mr. Haynes' treatment of the JAGs before
the
committee takes any further action on his nomination.
Sincerely,
Edward M. Kennedy Richard J. Durbin
Cc: Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Ranking Democrat, Committee on Judiciary
Bush is really pushing on this. I wonder why? Perhaps he is worried that
under the present law, he could be prosecuted as a war criminal some
day. If he can pressure Congress into redefining the law to allow the
torture tactics that were allowed in the past, he might believe that he
could then ex post facto pardon himself.
I also wonder if he realizes how much this is making us look like
barbarians to the rest of the world.
He doesn't care. His failures, his ego and his fears are all
that matter to him. He has to succeed now, no matter
what.
He is starting to sound desperate now, which scares me. Desperate people
often do desperately stupid things.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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17 Sep 2006 01:06:51 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
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In article <sfSdnRspTsGvZJHYnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-97BD62.23072216092006@news.giganews.com...
In article <5IGdnY4UWeaUz5HYnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001538.php
Senate Dems Call for Probe of WH Coercion
By Justin Rood - September 15, 2006, 2:06 PM
We've been following the growing concern among senior senators that
the
White House pressured top military lawyers to weaken their opposition
to
the
administration's torture policy.
Now, Sens. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and Richard Durbin (D-IL) are asking for
an
investigation.
Text of the letter after the jump.
Update: Here's an image of the letter.
September 14, 2006
The Honorable Arlen Specter
Chairman
Committee on Judiciary
United States Senate
224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Chairman Specter,
We recently learned of allegations that, in meeting earlier this week,
the
White House and Department of Defense General Counsel William J.
Haynes
pressured senior judge advocates general into signing a letter on the
Administration's proposed revisions to the War Crimes Act and Common
Article
3 of the Geneva Conventions. It is alleged that the JAGs were kept in
this
meeting for several hours, until they agreed to sign the letter. That
letter
was subsequently used to suggest that the JAGs supported the
Administration's
proposals.
These allegations are disturbingly similar to other allegations that
Mr.
Haynes has ignored, circumvented, or overruled the nation's senior
military
lawyers. The Judiciary Committee has explored Mr. Haynes' attempts to
overrule the JAGs in preparing interrogation guidelines that departed
from
long-standing military tradition and led to detainee abuses.
We believe these new allegations raise serious further questions about
Mr.
Haynes' fitness to serve on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth
Circuit. We urge you to thoroughly investigate and hold hearings on
these
claims and others relating to Mr. Haynes' treatment of the JAGs before
the
committee takes any further action on his nomination.
Sincerely,
Edward M. Kennedy Richard J. Durbin
Cc: Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Ranking Democrat, Committee on Judiciary
Bush is really pushing on this. I wonder why? Perhaps he is worried
that
under the present law, he could be prosecuted as a war criminal some
day. If he can pressure Congress into redefining the law to allow the
torture tactics that were allowed in the past, he might believe that he
could then ex post facto pardon himself.
I also wonder if he realizes how much this is making us look like
barbarians to the rest of the world.
He doesn't care. His failures, his ego and his fears are all
that matter to him. He has to succeed now, no matter
what.
He is starting to sound desperate now, which scares me. Desperate people
often do desperately stupid things.
Bush isn't the only one making stupid statements. Cheney
and Rusmsfeld seem to be on the rampage, too. Nothing
much from Rove lately. He's probably arranging the latest
Swiftboaters for Dishonesty attacks. That's supposed to be
where 90% of their November campaign money is going.
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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19 Sep 2006 12:16:36 AM |
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In article <ft6dnVmXuM6MqpPYnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-F9BD3A.22281717092006@news.giganews.com...
In article <sfSdnRspTsGvZJHYnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-97BD62.23072216092006@news.giganews.com...
In article <5IGdnY4UWeaUz5HYnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001538.php
Senate Dems Call for Probe of WH Coercion
By Justin Rood - September 15, 2006, 2:06 PM
We've been following the growing concern among senior senators that
the
White House pressured top military lawyers to weaken their opposition
to
the
administration's torture policy.
Now, Sens. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and Richard Durbin (D-IL) are asking for
an
investigation.
Text of the letter after the jump.
Update: Here's an image of the letter.
September 14, 2006
The Honorable Arlen Specter
Chairman
Committee on Judiciary
United States Senate
224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Chairman Specter,
We recently learned of allegations that, in meeting earlier this week,
the
White House and Department of Defense General Counsel William J.
Haynes
pressured senior judge advocates general into signing a letter on the
Administration's proposed revisions to the War Crimes Act and Common
Article
3 of the Geneva Conventions. It is alleged that the JAGs were kept in
this
meeting for several hours, until they agreed to sign the letter. That
letter
was subsequently used to suggest that the JAGs supported the
Administration's
proposals.
These allegations are disturbingly similar to other allegations that
Mr.
Haynes has ignored, circumvented, or overruled the nation's senior
military
lawyers. The Judiciary Committee has explored Mr. Haynes' attempts to
overrule the JAGs in preparing interrogation guidelines that departed
from
long-standing military tradition and led to detainee abuses.
We believe these new allegations raise serious further questions about
Mr.
Haynes' fitness to serve on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth
Circuit. We urge you to thoroughly investigate and hold hearings on
these
claims and others relating to Mr. Haynes' treatment of the JAGs before
the
committee takes any further action on his nomination.
Sincerely,
Edward M. Kennedy Richard J. Durbin
Cc: Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Ranking Democrat, Committee on Judiciary
Bush is really pushing on this. I wonder why? Perhaps he is worried
that
under the present law, he could be prosecuted as a war criminal some
day. If he can pressure Congress into redefining the law to allow the
torture tactics that were allowed in the past, he might believe that he
could then ex post facto pardon himself.
I also wonder if he realizes how much this is making us look like
barbarians to the rest of the world.
He doesn't care. His failures, his ego and his fears are all
that matter to him. He has to succeed now, no matter
what.
He is starting to sound desperate now, which scares me. Desperate people
often do desperately stupid things.
Bush isn't the only one making stupid statements. Cheney
and Rusmsfeld seem to be on the rampage, too. Nothing
much from Rove lately. He's probably arranging the latest
Swiftboaters for Dishonesty attacks. That's supposed to be
where 90% of their November campaign money is going.
The terrible trio do seem to be trying to outdo each other in idiocy.
The other one who seems to be quiet as of late is Condi. Is she so
ashamed of her recent performance on her trip to the Middle East that
she's gone into hiding?
It's only September and the slime boat style attack ads have been on for
over a month. I wonder if we'll ever have elections about issues again
and not how much doo doo the candidates can sling at each other.
Thank Science for the mute button on the remote.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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23 Sep 2006 02:22:21 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:16:36 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <ft6dnVmXuM6MqpPYnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-F9BD3A.22281717092006@news.giganews.com...
In article <sfSdnRspTsGvZJHYnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
[]
Bush is really pushing on this. I wonder why? Perhaps he is worried
that
under the present law, he could be prosecuted as a war criminal some
day. If he can pressure Congress into redefining the law to allow the
torture tactics that were allowed in the past, he might believe that he
could then ex post facto pardon himself.
I also wonder if he realizes how much this is making us look like
barbarians to the rest of the world.
He doesn't care. His failures, his ego and his fears are all
that matter to him. He has to succeed now, no matter
what.
He is starting to sound desperate now, which scares me. Desperate people
often do desperately stupid things.
Bush isn't the only one making stupid statements. Cheney
and Rusmsfeld seem to be on the rampage, too. Nothing
much from Rove lately. He's probably arranging the latest
Swiftboaters for Dishonesty attacks. That's supposed to be
where 90% of their November campaign money is going.
The terrible trio do seem to be trying to outdo each other in idiocy.
The other one who seems to be quiet as of late is Condi. Is she so
ashamed of her recent performance on her trip to the Middle East that
she's gone into hiding?
It's only September and the slime boat style attack ads have been on for
over a month. I wonder if we'll ever have elections about issues again
and not how much doo doo the candidates can sling at each other.
Thank Science for the mute button on the remote.
The 'off' button is highly superior.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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24 Sep 2006 01:28:08 AM |
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In article <v92bh2hhbs4u7nsvbh0si5ifcjf5q8580v@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:16:36 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <ft6dnVmXuM6MqpPYnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-F9BD3A.22281717092006@news.giganews.com...
In article <sfSdnRspTsGvZJHYnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
[]
Bush is really pushing on this. I wonder why? Perhaps he is worried
that
under the present law, he could be prosecuted as a war criminal some
day. If he can pressure Congress into redefining the law to allow the
torture tactics that were allowed in the past, he might believe that
he
could then ex post facto pardon himself.
I also wonder if he realizes how much this is making us look like
barbarians to the rest of the world.
He doesn't care. His failures, his ego and his fears are all
that matter to him. He has to succeed now, no matter
what.
He is starting to sound desperate now, which scares me. Desperate people
often do desperately stupid things.
Bush isn't the only one making stupid statements. Cheney
and Rusmsfeld seem to be on the rampage, too. Nothing
much from Rove lately. He's probably arranging the latest
Swiftboaters for Dishonesty attacks. That's supposed to be
where 90% of their November campaign money is going.
The terrible trio do seem to be trying to outdo each other in idiocy.
The other one who seems to be quiet as of late is Condi. Is she so
ashamed of her recent performance on her trip to the Middle East that
she's gone into hiding?
It's only September and the slime boat style attack ads have been on for
over a month. I wonder if we'll ever have elections about issues again
and not how much doo doo the candidates can sling at each other.
Thank Science for the mute button on the remote.
The 'off' button is highly superior.
If I'm watching one of the few shows that I do watch, I'd rather not
turn the set off completely. Besides, I can laugh at the morons who paid
thousands for the ad that I'm not listening to.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 03:30:35 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-97BD62.23072216092006@news.giganews.com...
In article <5IGdnY4UWeaUz5HYnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001538.php
Senate Dems Call for Probe of WH Coercion
By Justin Rood - September 15, 2006, 2:06 PM
We've been following the growing concern among senior senators that the
White House pressured top military lawyers to weaken their opposition to
the
administration's torture policy.
Now, Sens. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and Richard Durbin (D-IL) are asking for an
investigation.
Text of the letter after the jump.
Update: Here's an image of the letter.
September 14, 2006
The Honorable Arlen Specter
Chairman
Committee on Judiciary
United States Senate
224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Chairman Specter,
We recently learned of allegations that, in meeting earlier this week,
the
White House and Department of Defense General Counsel William J. Haynes
pressured senior judge advocates general into signing a letter on the
Administration's proposed revisions to the War Crimes Act and Common
Article
3 of the Geneva Conventions. It is alleged that the JAGs were kept in
this
meeting for several hours, until they agreed to sign the letter. That
letter
was subsequently used to suggest that the JAGs supported the
Administration's
proposals.
These allegations are disturbingly similar to other allegations that Mr.
Haynes has ignored, circumvented, or overruled the nation's senior
military
lawyers. The Judiciary Committee has explored Mr. Haynes' attempts to
overrule the JAGs in preparing interrogation guidelines that departed
from
long-standing military tradition and led to detainee abuses.
We believe these new allegations raise serious further questions about
Mr.
Haynes' fitness to serve on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth
Circuit. We urge you to thoroughly investigate and hold hearings on these
claims and others relating to Mr. Haynes' treatment of the JAGs before
the
committee takes any further action on his nomination.
Sincerely,
Edward M. Kennedy Richard J. Durbin
Cc: Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Ranking Democrat, Committee on Judiciary
Bush is really pushing on this. I wonder why? Perhaps he is worried that
under the present law, he could be prosecuted as a war criminal some
day. If he can pressure Congress into redefining the law to allow the
torture tactics that were allowed in the past, he might believe that he
could then ex post facto pardon himself.
I also wonder if he realizes how much this is making us look like
barbarians to the rest of the world.
He doesn't care. His failures, his ego and his fears are all
that matter to him. He has to succeed now, no matter
what.
He'll find plenty of innocent suckers to take the blame them pardon
them, I bet.
From: Sunyata of America!!!
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"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders
of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple
matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist
dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no
voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked,
and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the
country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
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Used to be that the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Now the
rich are killing the poor because they don't need us any more. The
automatons we built for them replaced us. Now we can't shine their shoes.
Take that, SUCKERS!
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| Title: Re: Senate Democrats Call For Probe of White House Coercion |
17 Sep 2006 12:13:06 PM |
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Michelle Malkin wrote:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001538.php
Senate Dems Call for Probe of WH Coercion
By Justin Rood - September 15, 2006, 2:06 PM
We've been following the growing concern among senior senators that the
White House pressured top military lawyers to weaken their opposition to the
administration's torture policy.
Now, Sens. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and Richard Durbin (D-IL) are asking for an
investigation.
Text of the letter after the jump.
Update: Here's an image of the letter.
September 14, 2006
The Honorable Arlen Specter
Chairman
Committee on Judiciary
United States Senate
224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Chairman Specter,
We recently learned of allegations that, in meeting earlier this week, the
White House and Department of Defense General Counsel William J. Haynes
pressured senior judge advocates general into signing a letter on the
Administration's proposed revisions to the War Crimes Act and Common Article
3 of the Geneva Conventions. It is alleged that the JAGs were kept in this
meeting for several hours, until they agreed to sign the letter. That letter
was subsequently used to suggest that the JAGs supported the Administration's
proposals.
These allegations are disturbingly similar to other allegations that Mr.
Haynes has ignored, circumvented, or overruled the nation's senior military
lawyers. The Judiciary Committee has explored Mr. Haynes' attempts to
overrule the JAGs in preparing interrogation guidelines that departed from
long-standing military tradition and led to detainee abuses.
We believe these new allegations raise serious further questions about Mr.
Haynes' fitness to serve on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth
Circuit. We urge you to thoroughly investigate and hold hearings on these
claims and others relating to Mr. Haynes' treatment of the JAGs before the
committee takes any further action on his nomination.
Sincerely,
Edward M. Kennedy Richard J. Durbin
Cc: Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Ranking Democrat, Committee on Judiciary
And did you hear that he's actually threatened to stop 'questioning'
detainees completely unless he gets his way. What a pathetic *****.
'It's my ball, and we'll play the way I want, or I'm going home.'
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| User: "Emmanual Kann" |
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19 Sep 2006 12:16:20 PM |
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An Sun, 17 Sep 2006 10:13:06 -0700, Andres64 hat geschreibt:
And did you hear that he's actually threatened to stop 'questioning'
detainees completely unless he gets his way. What a pathetic *****.
'It's my ball, and we'll play the way I want, or I'm going home.'
If he can't torture them, he won't question them at all?
Why not take it a step farther and not abduct them in the first place.
"If I can't question them, I won't abduct them at all". George Bush Oct
1, 2006 press conference.
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