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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "J Young"
Date: 16 Nov 2005 08:28:20 AM
Object: Senate votes to ban torture
Has the U.S. Senate completely lost their collective minds? These pond-scum
will stoop to any level to kill and maim Americans; America needs every
weapon at it's disposal to ward off these vermin. Better them than us.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-11-15-detainees_x.htm
Senate votes to ban torture of terrorism detainees
WASHINGTON - The Senate passed a defense bill Tuesday that would ban torture
of terrorism detainees and grant them limited access to federal courts.
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User: ""

Title: Re: Senate votes to ban torture 16 Nov 2005 05:34:37 PM
Douglas Berry wrote:
| Are you actually suggesting we should act like the very terrorists we
| are fighting? We're supposed to be the civilized ones, the ones with
| higher standards.
|
| As a former soldier, and a former instructor at the US Army's SERE
| School (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape) I can tell you that
| torture is useless. The prisoner will tell you whatever he thinks
| will make the pain stop, even if its a lie.
|
| For example, give me five days and I will have you signing an
| affidavit that you are the starting right fielder for the Tampa Bay
| Devil Rays. You might even believe it.
Let's say the Senate votes to "ban torture". A noble idea.
Trouble is, from that point on, they might even believe it
no longer exists.
The point is not to bury torture, but to investigate and
prosecute those who indulge in it, to do this relentlessly
and consequently to the highest level in any chain of
command responsible for the toleration of torture.
This country hasn't been doing such a good job of that
as it is. And it's getting worse.
There are no excuses for torture.
Besides which, it's already illegal. So let the prosecution
commence.
..
..
..
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Senate votes to ban torture 16 Nov 2005 09:30:47 PM
In <82kmn1hrhc3ec87cqb9p59q9g2mfn2im7d@4ax.com>, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
posting the following on Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:28:20 -0500 iin alt.atheism?

Has the U.S. Senate completely lost their collective minds? These
pond-scum will stoop to any level to kill and maim Americans; America
needs every weapon at it's disposal to ward off these vermin. Better them
than us.


"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into
the Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you." - Fredrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

Are you actually suggesting we should act like the very terrorists we are
fighting?

Yes. Yes he is.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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