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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "J Young"
Date: 06 Oct 2007 08:05:18 PM
Object: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)
One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair is
the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community. This is true
hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now dictate what every
gay politician must do and think? Where's the diversity? Like it or
not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay America". Gays should unite
behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended ) If gays want to be truly
diverse, they must also embrace conservative Republicans.
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 07 Oct 2007 01:03:04 AM
In article <1191719118.154803.231210@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
J Young <younginsights@aol.com> wrote:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair is
the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community. This is true
hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now dictate what every
gay politician must do and think? Where's the diversity? Like it or
not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay America". Gays should unite
behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended ) If gays want to be truly
diverse, they must also embrace conservative Republicans.

Gays, like most people, don't like hypocrites.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 07 Oct 2007 08:56:07 AM
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:03:04 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <1191719118.154803.231210@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
J Young <younginsights@aol.com> wrote:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair is
the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community. This is true
hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now dictate what every
gay politician must do and think? Where's the diversity? Like it or
not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay America". Gays should unite
behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended ) If gays want to be truly
diverse, they must also embrace conservative Republicans.


Gays, like most people, don't like hypocrites.

Particularly after literally generations now of fighting for the right to
be open and "out of the closet" as the saying goes, why would anybody
have sympathy for somebody like Craig who lies his ***** off to get and
keep power?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“Democracy is the theory that the common people
know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.”
- H. L. Mencken
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 08 Oct 2007 12:47:42 AM
In article <WbudnbvUwrjqeJXanZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:03:04 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <1191719118.154803.231210@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
J Young <younginsights@aol.com> wrote:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair is
the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community. This is true
hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now dictate what every
gay politician must do and think? Where's the diversity? Like it or
not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay America". Gays should unite
behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended ) If gays want to be truly
diverse, they must also embrace conservative Republicans.


Gays, like most people, don't like hypocrites.


Particularly after literally generations now of fighting for the right to
be open and "out of the closet" as the saying goes, why would anybody
have sympathy for somebody like Craig who lies his ***** off to get and
keep power?

Exactly. Craig is the type who would sell his own mother for more power
and the perks that come with it. And then deny that he did it.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.

User: "Don Martin"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 07 Oct 2007 10:43:23 AM
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:56:07 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:03:04 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <1191719118.154803.231210@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
J Young <younginsights@aol.com> wrote:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair is
the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community. This is true
hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now dictate what every
gay politician must do and think? Where's the diversity? Like it or
not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay America". Gays should unite
behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended ) If gays want to be truly
diverse, they must also embrace conservative Republicans.


Gays, like most people, don't like hypocrites.


Particularly after literally generations now of fighting for the right to
be open and "out of the closet" as the saying goes, why would anybody
have sympathy for somebody like Craig who lies his ***** off to get and
keep power?

Bringing his closet with him on the road to dominance.
WOA (Wicked Old Atheist) #2278
If you can't be a dirty old man, what is the point of being an old man?
Through a jaundiced eye darkly--rheum with a view.
The Squeeky Wheel
http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
.



User: "Lars Eighner"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 07 Oct 2007 12:21:52 AM
In our last episode,
<1191719118.154803.231210@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, the lovely and
talented J Young broadcast on tx.politics:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair is
the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community.

He never belonged to the gay community.
--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> <http://myspace.com/larseighner>
Countdown: 471 days to go.
What do you do when you're debranded?
.
User: "Syd M."

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 07 Oct 2007 02:35:03 AM
On Oct 7, 1:21 am, Lars Eighner <use...@larseighner.com> wrote:

In our last episode,
<1191719118.154803.231...@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, the lovely and
talented J Young broadcast on tx.politics:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair is
the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community.


He never belonged to the gay community.

Hell, he rejected the gay community.
PDW
.


User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 07 Oct 2007 07:24:10 PM
J Young <younginsights@aol.com> wrote in news:1191719118.154803.231210
@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair is
the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community.

Any more remarkable than the abandonment of the gay community by Larry
Craig?
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

"Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of
opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of
increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to
all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear."
-Harry S. Truman, message to Congress, August 8, 1950
.

User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 06 Oct 2007 10:58:29 PM
J Young <younginsights@aol.com> wrote in news:1191719118.154803.231210
@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair is
the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community. This is true
hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now dictate what every
gay politician must do and think? Where's the diversity? Like it or
not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay America". Gays should unite
behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended ) If gays want to be truly
diverse, they must also embrace conservative Republicans.

Brought to you by the GOP.
The GOP: Big Tent. Bigger Closets!
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices.
--Edward R. Murrow
.

User: "IAAH"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 06 Oct 2007 08:12:30 PM
J Young wrote:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair is
the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community. This is true
hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now dictate what every
gay politician must do and think? Where's the diversity? Like it or
not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay America". Gays should unite
behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended ) If gays want to be truly
diverse, they must also embrace conservative Republicans.

So you think the gay community has some kind of
responsibility to embrace closeted conservatives
that work actively to reduce gay rights? What kind
of stupidity is that, Young?
.
User: "Bill Bonde Hi ho "

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 06 Oct 2007 09:26:55 PM
IAAH wrote:


J Young wrote:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair is
the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community. This is true
hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now dictate what every
gay politician must do and think? Where's the diversity? Like it or
not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay America". Gays should unite
behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended ) If gays want to be truly
diverse, they must also embrace conservative Republicans.


So you think the gay community has some kind of
responsibility to embrace closeted conservatives
that work actively to reduce gay rights? What kind
of stupidity is that, Young?

So "gay rights" means just one thing and anyone who disagrees about it
is to be opposed even in his sexual orientation?
--
"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."
+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
.
User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 07 Oct 2007 07:26:15 PM
"Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:470843EF.3FB8E7C2@yahoo.co.uk:



IAAH wrote:


J Young wrote:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair

is

the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community. This is true
hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now dictate what

every

gay politician must do and think? Where's the diversity? Like it or
not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay America". Gays should

unite

behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended ) If gays want to be truly
diverse, they must also embrace conservative Republicans.


So you think the gay community has some kind of
responsibility to embrace closeted conservatives
that work actively to reduce gay rights? What kind
of stupidity is that, Young?

So "gay rights" means just one thing and anyone who disagrees about it
is to be opposed even in his sexual orientation?

Among the gay friends I've talked to, all express sympathy for Craig.
Have you any examples of gay Americans dissing Larry Craig?
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

Although the time of death is approaching me, I am not afraid of dying
and going to Hell or (what would be considerably worse) going to the
popularized version of Heaven. I expect death to be nothingness and, for
removing me from all possible fears of death, I am thankful to atheism.
--Isaac Asimov, "On Religiosity," Free Inquiry
.
User: "Bill Bonde Hi ho "

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 08 Oct 2007 06:34:41 PM
Enkidu wrote:


"Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:470843EF.3FB8E7C2@yahoo.co.uk:



IAAH wrote:


J Young wrote:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair

is

the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community. This is true
hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now dictate what

every

gay politician must do and think? Where's the diversity? Like it or
not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay America". Gays should

unite

behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended ) If gays want to be truly
diverse, they must also embrace conservative Republicans.


So you think the gay community has some kind of
responsibility to embrace closeted conservatives
that work actively to reduce gay rights? What kind
of stupidity is that, Young?

So "gay rights" means just one thing and anyone who disagrees about it
is to be opposed even in his sexual orientation?


Among the gay friends I've talked to, all express sympathy for Craig.
Have you any examples of gay Americans dissing Larry Craig?

The only people I've seen really attacking him are in this and other
newsgroups.
--
"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."
+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
.
User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 09 Oct 2007 06:25:22 PM
"Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:470ABE91.924C110C@yahoo.co.uk:

Among the gay friends I've talked to, all express sympathy for Craig.
Have you any examples of gay Americans dissing Larry Craig?

The only people I've seen really attacking him are in this and other
newsgroups.

He's a lying hypocrite. That he's gay is irrelevant.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

"With soap, baptism is a good thing."
-Robert G. Ingersoll 1833-1899
.

User: "James Burns"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 09 Oct 2007 06:56:45 PM
Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:


Enkidu wrote:

Among the gay friends I've talked to, all express sympathy for Craig.
Have you any examples of gay Americans dissing Larry Craig?

The only people I've seen really attacking him are in this and other
newsgroups.

It's hard to imagine what someone wanting to attack Craig
(verbally) could do to him that would be worse than what
he's done to himself.
Jim Burns
.
User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 09 Oct 2007 09:29:42 PM
James Burns <burns.87@osu.edu> wrote in news:470C153D.1030403@osu.edu:

Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:


Enkidu wrote:


Among the gay friends I've talked to, all express sympathy for Craig.
Have you any examples of gay Americans dissing Larry Craig?

The only people I've seen really attacking him are in this and other
newsgroups.


It's hard to imagine what someone wanting to attack Craig
(verbally) could do to him that would be worse than what
he's done to himself.

What he's done to himself is prove he's a lying hypocrite. His sex life
is between him and his sex partners. I don't care.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

A theologian is like a blind person in a dark room searching for a black
cat which isn't there -- and finding it!
-- unknown
.
User: "Bill Bonde Hi ho "

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 09 Oct 2007 11:51:30 PM
Enkidu wrote:


James Burns <burns.87@osu.edu> wrote in news:470C153D.1030403@osu.edu:

Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:


Enkidu wrote:


Among the gay friends I've talked to, all express sympathy for Craig.
Have you any examples of gay Americans dissing Larry Craig?

The only people I've seen really attacking him are in this and other
newsgroups.


It's hard to imagine what someone wanting to attack Craig
(verbally) could do to him that would be worse than what
he's done to himself.


What he's done to himself is prove he's a lying hypocrite. His sex life
is between him and his sex partners. I don't care.

His "lies" seem to be limited to his sex life, which you pretend you
don't care about, so why are you calling him a "lying hypocrite"? As
Clinton's defenders say, "Everyone lies about sex."
--
"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."
+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
.
User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 10 Oct 2007 08:04:12 AM
"Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:470C5A52.40F06920@yahoo.co.uk:



Enkidu wrote:


James Burns <burns.87@osu.edu> wrote in news:470C153D.1030403@osu.edu:

Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:


Enkidu wrote:


Among the gay friends I've talked to, all express sympathy for

Craig.

Have you any examples of gay Americans dissing Larry Craig?

The only people I've seen really attacking him are in this and

other

newsgroups.


It's hard to imagine what someone wanting to attack Craig
(verbally) could do to him that would be worse than what
he's done to himself.


What he's done to himself is prove he's a lying hypocrite. His sex

life

is between him and his sex partners. I don't care.

His "lies" seem to be limited to his sex life, which you pretend you
don't care about, so why are you calling him a "lying hypocrite"? As
Clinton's defenders say, "Everyone lies about sex."

Acting anti-gay in speeches, elections and senate votes while being gay
in his own private life is hypocracy. If he'd been pushing for stiffer
drug laws while using recreational drugs in private, it would be the
same.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?"
John Maynard Keynes
.
User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 10 Oct 2007 02:08:09 PM
"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns99C53DDCB1952255229@130.133.1.4...

Acting anti-gay in speeches, elections and senate votes while being gay
in his own private life is hypocracy. If he'd been pushing for stiffer
drug laws while using recreational drugs in private, it would be the
same.

He's not gay - he's bisexual.
.
User: "Bill Bonde Hi ho "

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 10 Oct 2007 04:48:03 PM
Sanders Kaufman wrote:


"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns99C53DDCB1952255229@130.133.1.4...

Acting anti-gay in speeches, elections and senate votes while being gay
in his own private life is hypocracy. If he'd been pushing for stiffer
drug laws while using recreational drugs in private, it would be the
same.


He's not gay - he's bisexual.

It doubles his chances of getting a date on Saturday night.
--
"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."
+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
.


User: "Bill Bonde Hi ho "

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 10 Oct 2007 11:50:20 AM
Enkidu wrote:


"Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:470C5A52.40F06920@yahoo.co.uk:



Enkidu wrote:


James Burns <burns.87@osu.edu> wrote in news:470C153D.1030403@osu.edu:

Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:


Enkidu wrote:


Among the gay friends I've talked to, all express sympathy for

Craig.

Have you any examples of gay Americans dissing Larry Craig?

The only people I've seen really attacking him are in this and

other

newsgroups.


It's hard to imagine what someone wanting to attack Craig
(verbally) could do to him that would be worse than what
he's done to himself.


What he's done to himself is prove he's a lying hypocrite. His sex

life

is between him and his sex partners. I don't care.

His "lies" seem to be limited to his sex life, which you pretend you
don't care about, so why are you calling him a "lying hypocrite"? As
Clinton's defenders say, "Everyone lies about sex."


Acting anti-gay in speeches, elections and senate votes while being gay
in his own private life is hypocracy. If he'd been pushing for stiffer
drug laws while using recreational drugs in private, it would be the
same.

You are self defining what "anti-gay" means, basically that his views
are "anti-gay" because they aren't the same as your views. When did he
go out and verbally attack homosexuals?
--
"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."
+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
.





User: "David Johnston"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 08 Oct 2007 07:17:29 PM
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:34:41 -0700, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
<tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Among the gay friends I've talked to, all express sympathy for Craig.
Have you any examples of gay Americans dissing Larry Craig?

The only people I've seen really attacking him are in this and other
newsgroups.

What if the people you've seen attacking him are not gays but just
overcompensating liberals?
.
User: "Bill Bonde Hi ho "

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 08 Oct 2007 08:25:56 PM
David Johnston wrote:


On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:34:41 -0700, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
<tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Among the gay friends I've talked to, all express sympathy for Craig.
Have you any examples of gay Americans dissing Larry Craig?

The only people I've seen really attacking him are in this and other
newsgroups.


What if the people you've seen attacking him are not gays but just
overcompensating liberals?

While that's probably at least partly correct, what I don't see is any
support for Craig in this from the wider gay community. Didn't some in
that wider gay community try to out him several times over the years?
--
"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."
+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
.




User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 06 Oct 2007 10:59:02 PM
"Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:470843EF.3FB8E7C2@yahoo.co.uk:



IAAH wrote:


J Young wrote:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair

is

the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community. This is true
hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now dictate what

every

gay politician must do and think? Where's the diversity? Like it or
not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay America". Gays should

unite

behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended ) If gays want to be truly
diverse, they must also embrace conservative Republicans.


So you think the gay community has some kind of
responsibility to embrace closeted conservatives
that work actively to reduce gay rights? What kind
of stupidity is that, Young?

So "gay rights" means just one thing and anyone who disagrees about it
is to be opposed even in his sexual orientation?

That's okay, Billy. We accept you.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices.
--Edward R. Murrow
.

User: "IAAH"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 09 Oct 2007 12:15:23 PM
Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:


IAAH wrote:

J Young wrote:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair is
the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community. This is true
hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now dictate what every
gay politician must do and think? Where's the diversity? Like it or
not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay America". Gays should unite
behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended ) If gays want to be truly
diverse, they must also embrace conservative Republicans.

So you think the gay community has some kind of
responsibility to embrace closeted conservatives
that work actively to reduce gay rights? What kind
of stupidity is that, Young?

So "gay rights" means just one thing and anyone who disagrees about it
is to be opposed even in his sexual orientation?


What does that have to do with the OP?
.
User: "Bill Bonde Hi ho "

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 09 Oct 2007 02:41:33 PM
IAAH wrote:


Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:


IAAH wrote:

J Young wrote:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair is
the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community. This is true
hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now dictate what every
gay politician must do and think? Where's the diversity? Like it or
not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay America". Gays should unite
behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended ) If gays want to be truly
diverse, they must also embrace conservative Republicans.

So you think the gay community has some kind of
responsibility to embrace closeted conservatives
that work actively to reduce gay rights? What kind
of stupidity is that, Young?

So "gay rights" means just one thing and anyone who disagrees about it
is to be opposed even in his sexual orientation?



What does that have to do with the OP?

Newsflash, messages on usenet are replies not to the original post or
original poster but to the person and the post that they are replied to.
"So" is often prepended on utterances that attempt to restate whatever
the previous post stated, sometimes amplifying on various aspects that
the replied-to poster might consider unfair. You'll notice that my reply
and the reply I was replying to both started with "So".
--
"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."
+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
.


User: "Geoff"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 06 Oct 2007 09:32:33 PM
Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:

IAAH wrote:


J Young wrote:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair
is the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community. This is true
hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now dictate what
every gay politician must do and think? Where's the diversity? Like
it or not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay America". Gays
should unite behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended ) If gays want to
be truly diverse, they must also embrace conservative Republicans.


So you think the gay community has some kind of
responsibility to embrace closeted conservatives
that work actively to reduce gay rights? What kind
of stupidity is that, Young?

So "gay rights" means just one thing and anyone who disagrees about it
is to be opposed even in his sexual orientation?

What the heck are you babbling on about?
Craig is a self-loathing closet gay.
.
User: "Bill Bonde Hi ho "

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 06 Oct 2007 10:55:19 PM
Geoff wrote:


Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:

IAAH wrote:


J Young wrote:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig affair
is the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community. This is true
hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now dictate what
every gay politician must do and think? Where's the diversity? Like
it or not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay America". Gays
should unite behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended ) If gays want to
be truly diverse, they must also embrace conservative Republicans.


So you think the gay community has some kind of
responsibility to embrace closeted conservatives
that work actively to reduce gay rights? What kind
of stupidity is that, Young?

So "gay rights" means just one thing and anyone who disagrees about it
is to be opposed even in his sexual orientation?


What the heck are you babbling on about?

I'm asking about what was just said.

Craig is a self-loathing closet gay.

See how you attack him for his sexual orientation?
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"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."
+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
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User: "Geoff"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 07 Oct 2007 01:16:08 PM
Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:

Geoff wrote:


Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:

IAAH wrote:


J Young wrote:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig
affair is the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community.
This is true hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now
dictate what every gay politician must do and think? Where's the
diversity? Like it or not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay
America". Gays should unite behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended
) If gays want to be truly diverse, they must also embrace
conservative Republicans.


So you think the gay community has some kind of
responsibility to embrace closeted conservatives
that work actively to reduce gay rights? What kind
of stupidity is that, Young?

So "gay rights" means just one thing and anyone who disagrees about
it is to be opposed even in his sexual orientation?


What the heck are you babbling on about?

I'm asking about what was just said.


Craig is a self-loathing closet gay.

See how you attack him for his sexual orientation?

How do you see that? I attack him for his position against gays?
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User: "Bill Bonde Hi ho "

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 07 Oct 2007 03:20:18 PM
Geoff wrote:


Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:

Geoff wrote:


Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:

IAAH wrote:


J Young wrote:

One of the more conspicuous aspects of the whole Larry Craig
affair is the abandonment of the Senator by the gay community.
This is true hypocrisy at it's worst. Do demonstrative gays now
dictate what every gay politician must do and think? Where's the
diversity? Like it or not, Senator Craig is the new face of "Gay
America". Gays should unite behind Larry Craig ( no pun intended
) If gays want to be truly diverse, they must also embrace
conservative Republicans.


So you think the gay community has some kind of
responsibility to embrace closeted conservatives
that work actively to reduce gay rights? What kind
of stupidity is that, Young?

So "gay rights" means just one thing and anyone who disagrees about
it is to be opposed even in his sexual orientation?


What the heck are you babbling on about?

I'm asking about what was just said.


Craig is a self-loathing closet gay.

See how you attack him for his sexual orientation?


How do you see that? I attack him for his position against gays?

Apparently you think he *is* gay. His views, which aren't maybe the same
as yours, apparently aren't allowed for some reason. IOWs, homosexuals
must toe the line set out for them by a subset of the country's
homosexuals. I just think that's not right.
--
"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."
+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
.
User: "Geoff"

Title: Re: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) 08 Oct 2007 08:54:31 AM
Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:

Craig is a self-loathing closet gay.

See how you attack him for his sexual orientation?


How do you see that? I attack him for his position against gays?

Apparently you think he *is* gay. His views, which aren't maybe the
same as yours, apparently aren't allowed for some reason.

Aren't allowed? Go ahead and *try* and show where I said his views or anyone
elses for that matter are not allowed.

IOWs,
homosexuals must toe the line set out for them by a subset of the
country's homosexuals. I just think that's not right.

Nice strawman. No one is claiming that.
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