Religions > Atheism > Seniors group unearths immigration bill 'loophole,' warns of drain on Social Security
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21 Jun 2007 12:00:18 PM |
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Seniors group unearths immigration bill 'loophole,' warns of drain on Social Security |
Just one more reason to keep the scoundrels out.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/06/seniors_group_unearths_immigra.php
A senior citizens group warns the "comprehensive immigration reform
bill" that's been revived in the Senate contains a "loophole" that
would allow over two-million illegal aliens who received Social
Security numbers before 2004 to receive nearly a trillion dollars in
Social Security benefits by 2040.
Backers of the so-called "grand compromise" immigration bill claim
illegal workers would not be able to obtain Social Security benefits
under the plan. However, the TREA Senior Citizens League (TSCL) argues
that is untrue. Group spokesman Brad Phillips says illegal aliens who
gained something called a "non-work" Social Security number -- which
entitled them to only things like food stamps or Medicare -- prior to
2004, would be able to receive Social Security benefits if the bill
passes.
"We've done some numbers on this and we found that, in total, that
would allow more than two-million workers to receive approximately
$966 billion in Social Security benefits between now and the year
2040," Phillips explains. "That's an important year because that's
about when the Social Security trustees estimate that Social Security
will go bankrupt," he notes.
Phillips says Americans are not allowed to benefit from their crimes,
and neither should foreign nationals. As he explains, the Social
Security system is a progressive system mostly benefiting low-income
workers.
"In other words, because they are low-income, they would be the ones
to pull the most out of the system," he continues. "So people who earn
the least pull the most out of the system -- and the average American
wage earner would, in essence, be subsidizing the lowest-income
earners."
According to Phillips, under the proposed immigration bill, illegal
aliens would receive more than double in Social Security benefits what
American taxpayers have spent so far on the war in Iraq.
The TREA Senior Citizens League is based in Alexandria, Virginia, and
boasts 1.2 million members. TSCL executive director Shannon Benton
testified yesterday about the loophole before the House Subcommittee
on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and
International Law.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Seniors group unearths immigration bill 'loophole,' warns of drain on Social Security |
21 Jun 2007 12:35:12 PM |
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In article <1182445218.725058.184450@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Just one more reason to keep the scoundrels out.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/06/seniors_group_unearths_immigra.php
A senior citizens group warns the "comprehensive immigration reform
bill" that's been revived in the Senate contains a "loophole" that
would allow over two-million illegal aliens who received Social
Security numbers before 2004 to receive nearly a trillion dollars in
Social Security benefits by 2040.
Good.
Helping the poor is what Christ commanded of us.
-- cary
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| User: "Bill Dunkenfield" |
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| Title: Re: Seniors group unearths immigration bill 'loophole,' warns of drainon Social Security |
21 Jun 2007 12:48:33 PM |
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1182445218.725058.184450@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Just one more reason to keep the scoundrels out.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/06/seniors_group_unearths_immigra.php
A senior citizens group warns the "comprehensive immigration reform
bill" that's been revived in the Senate contains a "loophole" that
would allow over two-million illegal aliens who received Social
Security numbers before 2004 to receive nearly a trillion dollars in
Social Security benefits by 2040.
Good.
Helping the poor is what Christ commanded of us.
-- cary
A command from a myth is worthless.
JAM
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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| Title: Re: Seniors group unearths immigration bill 'loophole,' warns of drain on Social Security |
21 Jun 2007 12:52:46 PM |
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Bill Dunkenfield <BillDunkenfield@nospam.net> wrote in
news:467AB9F1.1F091B8C@nospam.net:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article
<1182445218.725058.184450@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Just one more reason to keep the scoundrels out.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/06/seniors_group_unearths_immig
ra.php
A senior citizens group warns the "comprehensive immigration
reform bill" that's been revived in the Senate contains a
"loophole" that would allow over two-million illegal aliens
who received Social Security numbers before 2004 to receive
nearly a trillion dollars in Social Security benefits by
2040.
Good.
Helping the poor is what Christ commanded of us.
-- cary
A command from a myth is worthless.
Does that mean you think charity is a bad thing?
--
"What is the first law?"
"To Protect."
"And the second?"
"Ourselves."
Terry Austin
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| User: "Bill Dunkenfield" |
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| Title: Re: Seniors group unearths immigration bill 'loophole,' warns of drainon Social Security |
21 Jun 2007 02:00:41 PM |
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No 33 Secretary wrote:
Bill Dunkenfield <BillDunkenfield@nospam.net> wrote in
news:467AB9F1.1F091B8C@nospam.net:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article
<1182445218.725058.184450@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Just one more reason to keep the scoundrels out.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/06/seniors_group_unearths_immig
ra.php
A senior citizens group warns the "comprehensive immigration
reform bill" that's been revived in the Senate contains a
"loophole" that would allow over two-million illegal aliens
who received Social Security numbers before 2004 to receive
nearly a trillion dollars in Social Security benefits by
2040.
Good.
Helping the poor is what Christ commanded of us.
-- cary
A command from a myth is worthless.
Does that mean you think charity is a bad thing?
Not at all. However christian charity is another myth.
JAM
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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| Title: Re: Seniors group unearths immigration bill 'loophole,' warns of drain on Social Security |
21 Jun 2007 02:09:33 PM |
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Bill Dunkenfield <BillDunkenfield@nospam.net> wrote in
news:467ACAD9.2CD2EBB5@nospam.net:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
Bill Dunkenfield <BillDunkenfield@nospam.net> wrote in
news:467AB9F1.1F091B8C@nospam.net:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article
<1182445218.725058.184450@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> J
Young <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Just one more reason to keep the scoundrels out.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/06/seniors_group_unearths_im
mig ra.php
A senior citizens group warns the "comprehensive
immigration reform bill" that's been revived in the Senate
contains a "loophole" that would allow over two-million
illegal aliens who received Social Security numbers before
2004 to receive nearly a trillion dollars in Social
Security benefits by 2040.
Good.
Helping the poor is what Christ commanded of us.
-- cary
A command from a myth is worthless.
Does that mean you think charity is a bad thing?
Not at all. However christian charity is another myth.
Prove it.
The only rational stance is agnosticism (and not giving a flying
*****).
--
"What is the first law?"
"To Protect."
"And the second?"
"Ourselves."
Terry Austin
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Seniors group unearths immigration bill 'loophole,' warns of drain on Social Security |
21 Jun 2007 01:20:04 PM |
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In article <467AB9F1.1F091B8C@nospam.net> Bill Dunkenfield <BillDunkenfield@nospam.net> writes:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1182445218.725058.184450@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Just one more reason to keep the scoundrels out.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/06/seniors_group_unearths_immigra.php
A senior citizens group warns the "comprehensive immigration reform
bill" that's been revived in the Senate contains a "loophole" that
would allow over two-million illegal aliens who received Social
Security numbers before 2004 to receive nearly a trillion dollars in
Social Security benefits by 2040.
Good.
Helping the poor is what Christ commanded of us.
-- cary
A command from a myth is worthless.
Ah, but it's JYoung's myth, don't you see.
And as such, he's not supposed to be sneering at the concept.
-- cary
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Seniors group unearths immigration bill 'loophole,' warns ofdrain on Social Security |
22 Jun 2007 11:28:26 AM |
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:35:12 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1182445218.725058.184450@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> J
Young <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Just one more reason to keep the scoundrels out.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/06/seniors_group_unearths_immigra.php
A senior citizens group warns the "comprehensive immigration reform
bill" that's been revived in the Senate contains a "loophole" that
would allow over two-million illegal aliens who received Social
Security numbers before 2004 to receive nearly a trillion dollars in
Social Security benefits by 2040.
Good.
Helping the poor is what Christ commanded of us.
Funny, isn't it, that the Christians are at the forefront of a movement
to cut off help to the poor...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Seniors group unearths immigration bill 'loophole,' warns of drain on Social Security |
21 Jun 2007 05:41:25 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Just one more reason to keep the scoundrels out.
You've already snuck in, nazi turd.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Seniors group unearths immigration bill 'loophole,' warns ofdrain on Social Security |
21 Jun 2007 09:04:34 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Just one more reason to keep the scoundrels out.
A senior citizens group warns the "comprehensive immigration reform
bill" that's been revived in the Senate contains a "loophole" that
would allow over two-million illegal aliens who received Social
Security numbers before 2004 to receive nearly a trillion dollars in
Social Security benefits by 2040.
If the Mexicans want to act like taxpayers, they should be treated like
taxpayers.
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| User: "Robert" |
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| Title: Re: Seniors group unearths immigration bill 'loophole,' warns of drain on Social Security |
22 Jun 2007 01:33:06 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 02:04:34 GMT, Sanders Kaufman <bucky@kaufman.net>
wrote:
J Young wrote:
Just one more reason to keep the scoundrels out.
A senior citizens group warns the "comprehensive immigration reform
bill" that's been revived in the Senate contains a "loophole" that
would allow over two-million illegal aliens who received Social
Security numbers before 2004 to receive nearly a trillion dollars in
Social Security benefits by 2040.
If the Mexicans want to act like taxpayers, they should be treated like
taxpayers.
Legal or illegal all workers with a legitimate employer pay the same
payroll taxes. Many illegal's have income tax withheld, but don't work
all year. So they are entitled to a refund, few risk filing a return.
Rental property is taxed at a higher rate than a homesteaded
property. Land lords include taxes in the rental cost, and deduct the
taxes from their income, bottom line all renters pay higher property
taxes. Few illegal's own their homes, those that do pay just like a
citizen.
Consumption taxes are paid by the purchaser. Legality is not a
factor.
Reality poor, legal or illegal pay a higher percentage of income in
taxes, than the wealthy. That's percentage not amount.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: J Young's christianity at its best... |
21 Jun 2007 12:40:18 PM |
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On 21 Jun., 19:00, J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Just one more reason to keep the scoundrels out.
Strangely enough, your Jesus was on the side of the "scoundrels".
Why don't you take Him as an example, nazi turd?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: J Young's christianity at its best... |
21 Jun 2007 09:53:54 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:40:18 -0000, wrote:
On 21 Jun., 19:00, J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Just one more reason to keep the scoundrels out.
Strangely enough, your Jesus was on the side of the "scoundrels".
Why don't you take Him as an example, nazi turd?
Because he's as "Christian" as the Buddha. They all are.
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