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Religions > Atheism |
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"Not-easily-duped" |
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24 Nov 2003 11:14:27 AM |
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Separation Of Church And State Is It What God Wants? |
When you reach the Land that the Lord your God is giving you,
and occupy it, and settle down in it, and then declare to yourself:
"I must place a king over me like all the nations around me,"
make sure you place over you the king your God chooses.
You must choose one of your countrymen king over you.
You shall not put a foreigner over you who is not from among
your brethren...
As soon as he takes his seat on his royal throne, he must write
for himself a copy of this Law/Torah, he must keep it and
read it all the day of his life that he may learn to revere the Lord
his God, by being careful to observe all the Law and serve with
justice his fellow men. Deut 17:14-20
How can anyone tell me that this God is nolonger interested in
matters related to states, therefor we should separate Church and State?
This God is the source of Law and the God of principalities and dominions
How could he possibly be indiferent to politics?
WOE TO THOSE WHO SAY:"LET US SEPARATE CHRIST AND STATE."
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| User: "Alberich" |
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| Title: Re: Still a Christian Nation (wasRe: Separation Of Church And State) |
06 Dec 2003 02:54:40 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:47:25 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
The 'maf' troll imagines quite a lot. But groups.google simply shows
what was posted. Oh, well.
He was demolished in alt.atheism as soon as he arrived, in a thread
about first-cause proofs for God. He went into complete melt-done. I'd
never seen anything like it.
I'd love to see _that_ thread. What's the URL?
See, that's why - groups.google.com. A ng poster's friend.
Yes, unless you know it will give you answers that you don't want to
see, like my responses about evolution, eh?
Alberich
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| User: "maf 1029" |
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| Title: Re: Still a Christian Nation (wasRe: Separation Of Church And State) |
07 Dec 2003 05:44:17 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:54:40 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:47:25 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
The 'maf' troll imagines quite a lot. But groups.google simply shows
what was posted. Oh, well.
He was demolished in alt.atheism as soon as he arrived, in a thread
about first-cause proofs for God. He went into complete melt-done. I'd
never seen anything like it.
I'd love to see _that_ thread. What's the URL?
See, that's why - groups.google.com. A ng poster's friend.
Yes, unless you know it will give you answers that you don't want to
see, like my responses about evolution, eh?
Hey, Al.......
Ever notice that cowardly asslickers refuse to face up to the people
they try to lame...... here?
http://www.geocities.com/zmjcath/
Missa sicut eam cognovimus mortua est. _Ego_ non hoc dixi, sed unus
'reformatorum' tuorum. Et honestus erat. Potesne dicere hoc aequum?
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| User: "maf 1029" |
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| Title: Re: Still a Christian Nation (wasRe: Separation Of Church And State) |
07 Dec 2003 05:44:14 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:23:06 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Well, let's review, just to be clear:
Cause here's the problem you have with that:
But they did not want to limit, or chill, the free exercise of
religion.
Okay - now back to you.
Is this the new soundbite? What happened? Couldn't hold your own on
evolution so you had to switch to a new topic? Anyway, I suggest you
study your American history before you delve too deeply here.
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
He was demolished in alt.atheism as soon as he arrived, in a thread
about first-cause proofs for God. He went into complete melt-done. I'd
never seen anything like it.
Oh, yeah. I was there for that one. I had forgotten, what with all the
lovely material he has provided in the meantime.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Still a Christian Nation (wasRe: Separation Of Church And State) |
06 Dec 2003 01:40:54 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:23:06 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Well, let's review, just to be clear:
Cause here's the problem you have with that:
But they did not want to limit, or chill, the free exercise of
religion.
Okay - now back to you.
Is this the new soundbite? What happened? Couldn't hold your own on
evolution so you had to switch to a new topic? Anyway, I suggest you
study your American history before you delve too deeply here.
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
He was demolished in alt.atheism as soon as he arrived, in a thread
about first-cause proofs for God. He went into complete melt-done. I'd
never seen anything like it.
Whoops - I was confusing him with Gardiner/Searle.
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| User: "maf 1029" |
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| Title: Re: Still a Christian Nation (wasRe: Separation Of Church And State) |
07 Dec 2003 05:44:16 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:40:54 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:23:06 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Well, let's review, just to be clear:
Cause here's the problem you have with that:
But they did not want to limit, or chill, the free exercise of
religion.
Okay - now back to you.
Is this the new soundbite? What happened? Couldn't hold your own on
evolution so you had to switch to a new topic? Anyway, I suggest you
study your American history before you delve too deeply here.
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
He was demolished in alt.atheism as soon as he arrived, in a thread
about first-cause proofs for God. He went into complete melt-done. I'd
never seen anything like it.
Whoops - I was confusing him with Gardiner/Searle.
But there was a "cart before the horses/proof of gawd" thread about 2
years ago, and I thoyught that was what you meant.
Then again, see one troll, meet its clones.
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| User: "Alberich" |
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| Title: Re: Still a Christian Nation (wasRe: Separation Of Church And State) |
06 Dec 2003 01:14:13 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Well, let's review, just to be clear:
Cause here's the problem you have with that:
But they did not want to limit, or chill, the free exercise of
religion.
Okay - now back to you.
Is this the new soundbite? What happened? Couldn't hold your own on
evolution so you had to switch to a new topic? Anyway, I suggest you
study your American history before you delve too deeply here.
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
Nah, I watched it and enjoyed a big honkin' bowl of popcorn, too! So
far, he hasn't seemed to get to the people over at rec.photo.digital
(yet!).
I have noticed that he's learned to be a bit quieter here, for awhile
at least.
Alberich
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| User: "Mark Johnson" |
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06 Dec 2003 02:45:02 PM |
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Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
Nah, I watched it and enjoyed a big honkin' bowl of popcorn
I suppose you mean because, as with the evolutionism threads, the
zealotry seemed to die out when challenged? Are you suggesting you're
going start those up again? If you do, I'll be right there.
far, he hasn't seemed to get to the people over at rec.photo.digital
(yet!).
I have noticed that he's learned to be a bit quieter here, for awhile
at least.
Gee, you two are _that_ interested in what I'm posting to Usenet, in
any group, whatsoever? And when I post directly to you, you still
can't read a word I write.
It is to be constantly amazed by what's lacking in the libral soul.
Not saying I'm perfect. But at least I read Ann, and didn't really
recognize myself in those descriptions. You on the other hand . .
Just to be amazed.
Peace, even to the obsessed.
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One mark of a deteriorating society is when its people cannot
discern truth from lies. Another is when they don't even bother
to try and will believe whatever their itching ears want to hear.
[Cal Thomas, 4 SEP 2000]
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| User: "SumBuny" |
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| Title: Re: Still a Christian Nation (wasRe: Separation Of Church And State) |
07 Dec 2003 01:51:34 PM |
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"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:4mf4tvs5e7v73f9j89ut4n752ncmatlikb@4ax.com...
Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
Nah, I watched it and enjoyed a big honkin' bowl of popcorn
I suppose you mean because, as with the evolutionism threads, the
zealotry seemed to die out when challenged?
That thread is still going on...it has not "died out," only *your*
participation has...
....oh, wait, that is what you said...
Buny
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Still a Christian Nation (wasRe: Separation Of Church And State) |
10 Dec 2003 06:42:54 AM |
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Mark Johnson wrote:
"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:
I suppose you mean because, as with the evolutionism threads, the
zealotry seemed to die out when challenged?
That thread is still going on...it has not "died out," only *your*
participation has...
'sum', no threads. There are no active evolutionism threads. All the
true believers discovered they really had nothing to say, when pressed
on the matter. It's much like your case, 'sum'.
But, sure, point one out to me, and I'll jump right in. Trust me.
And if it's a hot babe, Mark will jump right on....
Paul
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Still a Christian Nation (wasRe: Separation Of Church And State) |
07 Dec 2003 08:38:46 AM |
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Mark Johnson wrote:
Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
Nah, I watched it and enjoyed a big honkin' bowl of popcorn
I suppose you mean because, as with the evolutionism threads, the
zealotry seemed to die out when challenged? Are you suggesting you're
going start those up again? If you do, I'll be right there.
far, he hasn't seemed to get to the people over at rec.photo.digital
(yet!).
I have noticed that he's learned to be a bit quieter here, for awhile
at least.
Gee, you two are _that_ interested in what I'm posting to Usenet, in
any group, whatsoever? And when I post directly to you, you still
can't read a word I write.
It is to be constantly amazed by what's lacking in the libral soul.
Not saying I'm perfect. But at least I read Ann, and didn't really
recognize myself in those descriptions.
You were too busy jacking off to notice ANYTHING.....
Paul
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| User: "Mark Johnson" |
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08 Dec 2003 02:15:37 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:45:02 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
Nah, I watched it and enjoyed a big honkin' bowl of popcorn
I
I suppose I mean because, as with the evolutionism threads, my
zealotry seemed to die out when challenged? Am I suggesting I'm
going start those up again? If I do, I'll be gone from them
soon...here.
far, he hasn't seemed to get to the people over at rec.photo.digital
(yet!).
I have noticed that he's learned to be a bit quieter here, for awhile
at least.
G
Gee, I am _that_ obsessed with what I'm posting to Usenet, in
any group. And when you post directly to me, I still
can't read a word you or I write.
It is to be constantly amazed by what's lacking in my black soul.
I'm saying I'm perfect. But at least I whack off to Ann, and didn't
really want to recognize myself in those descriptions.
Peace, even to me
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One mark of a deteriorating society is when its people cannot
discern truth from lies. Another is when they don't even bother
to try and will believe whatever their itching ears want to hear.
[Cal Thomas, 4 SEP 2000]
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Still a Christian Nation (wasRe: Separation Of Church And State) |
08 Dec 2003 08:51:49 PM |
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Mark Johnson wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:45:02 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
Nah, I watched it and enjoyed a big honkin' bowl of popcorn
I
I suppose I mean because, as with the evolutionism threads, my
zealotry seemed to die out when challenged? Am I suggesting I'm
going start those up again? If I do, I'll be gone from them
soon...here.
far, he hasn't seemed to get to the people over at rec.photo.digital
(yet!).
I have noticed that he's learned to be a bit quieter here, for awhile
at least.
G
Gee, I am _that_ obsessed with what I'm posting to Usenet, in
any group. And when you post directly to me, I still
can't read a word you or I write.
It is to be constantly amazed by what's lacking in my black soul.
I'm saying I'm perfect. But at least I whack off to Ann,
The closest to your bed she will EVER get...
Paul
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| User: "Kate " |
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09 Dec 2003 02:10:20 AM |
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 02:51:49 GMT, Paul Duca <tomservo@comcast.net>
wrote:
Mark Johnson wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:45:02 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
Nah, I watched it and enjoyed a big honkin' bowl of popcorn
I
I suppose I mean because, as with the evolutionism threads, my
zealotry seemed to die out when challenged? Am I suggesting I'm
going start those up again? If I do, I'll be gone from them
soon...here.
far, he hasn't seemed to get to the people over at rec.photo.digital
(yet!).
I have noticed that he's learned to be a bit quieter here, for awhile
at least.
G
Gee, I am _that_ obsessed with what I'm posting to Usenet, in
any group. And when you post directly to me, I still
can't read a word you or I write.
It is to be constantly amazed by what's lacking in my black soul.
I'm saying I'm perfect. But at least I whack off to Ann,
The closest to your bed she will EVER get...
Paul
Ewwww
That woman is buttttt ugly.
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06 Dec 2003 02:52:53 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:45:02 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
Nah, I watched it and enjoyed a big honkin' bowl of popcorn
I suppose you mean because, as with the evolutionism threads, the
zealotry seemed to die out when challenged? Are you suggesting you're
going start those up again? If you do, I'll be right there.
No...I have better things to do than to devote my life to teaching
ignorant fools who have no desire to learn; if that were my calling,
I'd be teaching second grade.
far, he hasn't seemed to get to the people over at rec.photo.digital
(yet!).
I have noticed that he's learned to be a bit quieter here, for awhile
at least.
Gee, you two are _that_ interested in what I'm posting to Usenet, in
any group, whatsoever? And when I post directly to you, you still
can't read a word I write.
Wrong again. Actually interested in the groups I know you post in.
(You may post in more than that, but I don't care.) Thing is, as a
person who realizes his own limitations, I tend to lurk in those
groups so that I learn, rather than open my mouth and be thought a
fool. You would be wise to do the same on occasion.
It is to be constantly amazed by what's lacking in the libral soul.
And I'm constantly amazed that you think you can look into the souls
of people you've never met. There are a surfeit of perfectly
conservative people that think you give them a bad name...
Not saying I'm perfect.
In that case, you finally agree with the majority of Usenet.
Congratulations!
But at least I read Ann, and didn't really
recognize myself in those descriptions. You on the other hand . .
....refuse to read the rantings of an illogical bigot. My loss, I
suppose.
Alberich
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| User: "SumBuny" |
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| Title: Re: Still a Christian Nation (wasRe: Separation Of Church And State) |
07 Dec 2003 01:52:10 PM |
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"Alberich" <Alberich@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:16g4tvk9tg2ukk1uvnh1vmr5f9mg33ha4p@4ax.com...
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:45:02 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
Nah, I watched it and enjoyed a big honkin' bowl of popcorn
I suppose you mean because, as with the evolutionism threads, the
zealotry seemed to die out when challenged? Are you suggesting you're
going start those up again? If you do, I'll be right there.
No...I have better things to do than to devote my life to teaching
ignorant fools who have no desire to learn; if that were my calling,
I'd be teaching second grade.
Nope...second graders still have a thirst for learning....
Buny
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| Title: Re: Still a Christian Nation (wasRe: Separation Of Church And State) |
09 Dec 2003 05:10:54 PM |
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Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:45:02 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
Nah, I watched it and enjoyed a big honkin' bowl of popcorn
I suppose you mean because, as with the evolutionism threads, the
zealotry seemed to die out when challenged? Are you suggesting you're
going start those up again? If you do, I'll be right there.
No...I have better things to do than to devote my life to teaching
ignorant fools
And I wish you wouldn't project, Al. You know what they say about
that.
I was just asking you the most obvious question - what IS . . The
Theory of? You remember:
The Theory of evolution is that evolution is caused by . . .
and just complete the sentence.
far, he hasn't seemed to get to the people over at rec.photo.digital
(yet!).
I have noticed that he's learned to be a bit quieter here, for awhile
at least.
Gee, you two are _that_ interested in what I'm posting to Usenet, in
any group, whatsoever? And when I post directly to you, you still
can't read a word I write.
Wrong again.
But you can't read what I write. When I write the above, you seem to
behave as if you couldn't read it. Right?
Actually interested in the groups I know you post in.
(You may post in more than that, but I don't care.
You must be as obsessed with me as is the 'maf troll'. You must be
a-scared of the things I say on Usenet.
I'll take it as a compliment, from both your crazy . . . persons.
person who realizes his own limitations, I tend to lurk in those
groups so that I learn, rather than open my mouth and be thought a
fool.
Is that what you thought?
It is to be constantly amazed by what's lacking in the libral soul.
And I'm constantly amazed that you think you can look into the souls
of people you've never met.
You've written a lot, Al. I read it all, at least your replies to me.
Not saying I'm perfect.
In that case, you finally agree with the majority of Usenet.
But if you disagree, that's another matter, Al. And you need to
explain yourself when you do. It's only fair.
But at least I read Ann, and didn't really
recognize myself in those descriptions. You on the other hand . .
...refuse to read the rantings of an illogical bigot.
Gee, Al. I won't give up on ya.
Peace.
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One mark of a deteriorating society is when its people cannot
discern truth from lies. Another is when they don't even bother
to try and will believe whatever their itching ears want to hear.
[Cal Thomas, 4 SEP 2000]
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:10:54 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
A
And I wish I wouldn't project, Al. I know what they say about
me.
I was just blabbering at myself again the most obvious question - what
IS . . The Theory of Johnson? You remember:
The Theory of 'johnson' is that evolution is caused by . . .
and just complete the sentence.
HINT: Starts with an I, ends with a G, and rhymes with "inbreeding."
far, he hasn't seemed to get to the people over at rec.photo.digital
(yet!).
I have noticed that he's learned to be a bit quieter here, for awhile
at least.
G
Gee, me and my other personbalities are _that_ interested in what I'm
posting to Usenet, in any group, whatsoever? And when I post directly
to you, I still can't read a word I write.
Wrong again.
B
But I can't read what I write. When I write the above, I seem to
behave as if I couldn't read it. Right?
Actually interested in the groups I know you post in.
(You may post in more than that, but I don't care.
Y
I must be as obsessed with me as is my 'mommy troll'. I must be
proud of the things I spew on Usenet.
I'll take it as a compliment, from both my crazy . . . persons.
person who realizes his own limitations, I tend to lurk in those
groups so that I learn, rather than open my mouth and be thought a
fool.
I
Is that what I thought?
It is to be constantly amazed by what's lacking in the libral soul.
And I'm constantly amazed that you think you can look into the souls
of people you've never met.
Y
I've written a lot, Al. I read none of it, even my replies to me.
N
I'm saying I'm perfect.
B
But if I disagree, that's another matter, Al. And I need to
explain myself when I do. It's only fair.
B
But at least I fantasize about Ann, and didn't really
recognize myself in those pictures.
...refuse to read the rantings of an illogical bigot.
G
Gee, Al. I gave up on me.
Peace.
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One mark of a deteriorating society is when its people cannot
discern truth from lies. Another is when they don't even bother
to try and will believe whatever their itching ears want to hear.
[Cal Thomas, 4 SEP 2000]
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06 Dec 2003 03:04:12 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:52:53 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:45:02 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
Nah, I watched it and enjoyed a big honkin' bowl of popcorn
I suppose you mean because, as with the evolutionism threads, the
zealotry seemed to die out when challenged? Are you suggesting you're
going start those up again? If you do, I'll be right there.
No...I have better things to do than to devote my life to teaching
ignorant fools who have no desire to learn; if that were my calling,
I'd be teaching second grade.
Unfortunately the same ignorant fools vote, and elect their own kind,
who place more of them in unelected positions of power over the rest
of us.
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07 Dec 2003 06:35:59 AM |
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Alberich wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Well, let's review, just to be clear:
Cause here's the problem you have with that:
But they did not want to limit, or chill, the free exercise of
religion.
Okay - now back to you.
Is this the new soundbite? What happened? Couldn't hold your own on
evolution so you had to switch to a new topic? Anyway, I suggest you
study your American history before you delve too deeply here.
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
Nah, I watched it and enjoyed a big honkin' bowl of popcorn, too! So
far, he hasn't seemed to get to the people over at rec.photo.digital
(yet!).
Oh it was so good. His ***** got severly kicked in alt.language.latin.
I have noticed that he's learned to be a bit quieter here, for awhile
at least.
Well, maybe he's been taking his meds. Or he's really learning Latin.
In alt.language.latin he was asking about books "for the Catholic
student" and he suggested that he had a real interest in learning the
language. But then again, the last thing I can imagine ist Markie
learning Latin, because that would mean he can throw his facing pages
away at some point, and we all know that facing pages make Markie
really, really HAWT!
Alberich
DH
--
"since you seem to have a problem with English,
I sincerely doubt that Greek would be of much
service to you."
- bob to Mark Johnson on alt.language.latin
Message-ID: <BBEC7FE8.6221%porson@ix.netcom.com>
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07 Dec 2003 02:28:56 PM |
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On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 13:35:59 +0100, Daniel Hoehr
<dhoehr@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Alberich wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Well, let's review, just to be clear:
Cause here's the problem you have with that:
But they did not want to limit, or chill, the free exercise of
religion.
Okay - now back to you.
Is this the new soundbite? What happened? Couldn't hold your own on
evolution so you had to switch to a new topic? Anyway, I suggest you
study your American history before you delve too deeply here.
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
Nah, I watched it and enjoyed a big honkin' bowl of popcorn, too! So
far, he hasn't seemed to get to the people over at rec.photo.digital
(yet!).
Oh it was so good. His ***** got severly kicked in alt.language.latin.
I have noticed that he's learned to be a bit quieter here, for awhile
at least.
Well, maybe he's been taking his meds. Or he's really learning Latin.
In alt.language.latin he was asking about books "for the Catholic
student" and he suggested that he had a real interest in learning the
language. But then again, the last thing I can imagine ist Markie
learning Latin, because that would mean he can throw his facing pages
away at some point, and we all know that facing pages make Markie
really, really HAWT!
<sploosh>
Damn. That was a good cup of coffee, too.
Alberich
DH
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07 Dec 2003 05:44:11 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:14:13 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:01:04 GMT, maf 1029 <m@bringonthespambaby.de>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:38:31 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:43:39 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote:
Well, let's review, just to be clear:
Cause here's the problem you have with that:
But they did not want to limit, or chill, the free exercise of
religion.
Okay - now back to you.
Is this the new soundbite? What happened? Couldn't hold your own on
evolution so you had to switch to a new topic? Anyway, I suggest you
study your American history before you delve too deeply here.
Al, sweetie, you missed the *****-kicking he got in alt.language.latin.
It was priceless.
Nah, I watched it and enjoyed a big honkin' bowl of popcorn, too!
BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
But no cheesecake? The best time to read a Holy Post (TM) from St.
Markie is after cheesecake, with all the projection out of the system
beforehand.
So
far, he hasn't seemed to get to the people over at rec.photo.digital
(yet!).
Just wait, you 'catholic' you.
I have noticed that he's learned to be a bit quieter here, for awhile
at least.
I think he was spent from the MJFC conference.
Alberich
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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05 Dec 2003 08:05:21 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:11:59 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> posted in alt.atheism:
"But they did not want to limit, or chill, the free exercise of
religion."
One is not permitted the "free exercise" of an illegal act, whether
the reason for doing so is religious or not. Freedom of religion is
NOT unlimited.
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"If we really know Truth, we do not fear hearing falsehoods or half-truths; if we are not sure of the truth - we shudder and try to shout down every utterance." - A. J. Mims
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "SumBuny" |
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06 Dec 2003 12:17:18 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:79e2tv82mbl7qsq0dal5kfl5fc6slp3sub@Pern.rk...
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:11:59 -0800, Mark Johnson
<102334.12@compuserve.com> posted in alt.atheism:
"But they did not want to limit, or chill, the free exercise of
religion."
One is not permitted the "free exercise" of an illegal act, whether
the reason for doing so is religious or not. Freedom of religion is
NOT unlimited.
Isn't there a (perhaps not so-)subtle difference between freedom *of*
religion and freedom *from* religion? I always thought that the US was
based on the latter, not the former. Which is why, as a Catholic Christian,
I still agree that the Decalogue should not be overtly displayed on public
property...because that opens up the ability of *all* religions to display
their equivilant...i.e., how many of the "in-your-face, holier-than-thouc
Christians" who are fighting to keep this display would be just as vocal
keeping out others, say, Wicca, Islam, Jewish, etc???
Buny
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06 Dec 2003 02:36:12 PM |
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"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:16e4tvov6cgraepf58ihbtoaem1skmmdcj@4ax.com...
"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:
"But they did not want to limit, or chill, the free exercise of
religion."
One is not permitted the "free exercise" of an illegal act, whether
the reason for doing so is religious or not. Freedom of religion is
NOT unlimited.
Isn't there a (perhaps not so-)subtle difference between freedom *of*
religion and freedom *from* religion? I always thought that the US was
based on the latter, not the former. Which is why, as a Catholic
Christian,
I still agree that the Decalogue should not be overtly displayed on
public
property...because that opens up the ability of *all* religions to
display
their equivilant...i.e., how many of the "in-your-face, holier-than-thouc
Christians" who are fighting to keep this display would be just as vocal
keeping out others, say, Wicca, Islam, Jewish, etc???
Buny
Islam? Judaism? In some places, witchcraft and paganism? Yeah - they
already are . . "in your face", just as are you are 'reformists' of
all stripes.
You would agree to having some sort of monument to these religions on public
property?
But our founders, whether you want to live in that kind of America or
not, and it's pretty clear you do not, did not want to stifle the free
exercise of religion. In fact, it was to inform the behavior of our
people, and our public leaders, and just as you read in the very
constitution of the great state of Alabama - ROLL TIDE! :
*You* are from Alabama? That explains much...(no offense intended to the
general population of Al., just about the comments seeming to "protect"
Moore)
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports.
You would agree to a monument to non-Christian religions on public property?
You would vote for someone other than a Christian who actively practiced
his/her faith? Expect him/her faith to greatly influence his/her actions?
Truer words . . as they say . .
How true are your words?
Buny
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10 Dec 2003 03:59:33 AM |
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"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:
Islam? Judaism? In some places, witchcraft and paganism? Yeah - they
already are . . "in your face", just as are you are 'reformists' of
all stripes.
You would agree to having some sort of monument to these religions on public
property?
Are they thinking of doing that in Alabama, now? Wouldn't it be up to
Alabama?
But our founders, whether you want to live in that kind of America or
not, and it's pretty clear you do not, did not want to stifle the free
exercise of religion. In fact, it was to inform the behavior of our
people, and our public leaders, and just as you read in the very
constitution of the great state of Alabama - ROLL TIDE! :
*You* are from Alabama? That explains much...(no offense intended
'sum', try being a real person. Get your act together.
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports.
You would agree to a monument to non-Christian religions on public property?
'sum', think about what you write, here, and read your answer:
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that
man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these
great pillars of human happiness - these firmest props of the duties
of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man,
ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all
their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be
asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life,
if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the
instruments of investigation in courts of justice?
From Washington's farewell. Truer words . . as they say . .
Peace.
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One mark of a deteriorating society is when its people cannot
discern truth from lies. Another is when they don't even bother
to try and will believe whatever their itching ears want to hear.
[Cal Thomas, 4 SEP 2000]
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| User: "SumBuny" |
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10 Dec 2003 05:31:55 PM |
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"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:8erdtvkvv76do1psqhmhbg9le7kpi5qsgn@4ax.com...
"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:
Islam? Judaism? In some places, witchcraft and paganism? Yeah - they
already are . . "in your face", just as are you are 'reformists' of
all stripes.
You would agree to having some sort of monument to these religions on
public
property?
Are they thinking of doing that in Alabama, now? Wouldn't it be up to
Alabama?
I didn't ask about "them", I asked if *you* would agree to such...
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports.
You would agree to a monument to non-Christian religions on public
property?
'sum', think about what you write, here, and read your answer:
I asked a question of *you*...where is *your* answer?
Buny
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11 Dec 2003 04:13:35 PM |
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"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:
"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:8erdtvkvv76do1psqhmhbg9le7kpi5qsgn@4ax.com...
"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports.
You would agree to a monument to non-Christian religions on public
property?
'sum', think about what you write, here, and read your answer:
I asked a question of *you*...where is *your* answer?
Well, you must have just cut it out. Let's see what the answer was:
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that
man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these
great pillars of human happiness - these firmest props of the duties
of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man,
ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all
their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be
asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life,
if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the
instruments of investigation in courts of justice?
From Washington's farewell. Truer words . . as they say . .
Peace.
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One mark of a deteriorating society is when its people cannot
discern truth from lies. Another is when they don't even bother
to try and will believe whatever their itching ears want to hear.
[Cal Thomas, 4 SEP 2000]
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11 Dec 2003 04:47:58 PM |
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"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:2sqhtvc069q662f51babblkms1dn8kuu72@4ax.com...
"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:
"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:8erdtvkvv76do1psqhmhbg9le7kpi5qsgn@4ax.com...
"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political
prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports.
You would agree to a monument to non-Christian religions on public
property?
'sum', think about what you write, here, and read your answer:
I asked a question of *you*...where is *your* answer?
Well, you must have just cut it out. Let's see what the answer was:
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that
man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these
great pillars of human happiness - these firmest props of the duties
of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man,
ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all
their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be
asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life,
if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the
instruments of investigation in courts of justice?
Where is the "Yes I do/No I do not"?
Buny
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12 Dec 2003 09:52:56 PM |
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"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:
"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:2sqhtvc069q662f51babblkms1dn8kuu72@4ax.com...
"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:
"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:8erdtvkvv76do1psqhmhbg9le7kpi5qsgn@4ax.com...
"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:
I asked a question of *you*...where is *your* answer?
Well, you must have just cut it out. Let's see what the answer was:
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that
man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these
great pillars of human happiness - these firmest props of the duties
of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man,
ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all
their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be
asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life,
if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the
instruments of investigation in courts of justice?
Where is the "Yes I do/No I do not"?
Buny
Maybe you just missed the issue, here. Let's try, again:
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that
man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these
great pillars of human happiness - these firmest props of the duties
of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man,
ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all
their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be
asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life,
if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the
instruments of investigation in courts of justice?
From Washington's farewell. Truer words . . as they say . .
Peace.
---------------------------------------
One mark of a deteriorating society is when its people cannot
discern truth from lies. Another is when they don't even bother
to try and will believe whatever their itching ears want to hear.
[Cal Thomas, 4 SEP 2000]
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13 Dec 2003 05:30:39 PM |
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"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:673ltv4kl9j8eg5l0bgmoliaaljru0brfl@4ax.com...
"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:
"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:2sqhtvc069q662f51babblkms1dn8kuu72@4ax.com...
"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:
"Mark Johnson" <102334.12@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:8erdtvkvv76do1psqhmhbg9le7kpi5qsgn@4ax.com...
"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:
I asked a question of *you*...where is *your* answer?
Well, you must have just cut it out. Let's see what the answer was:
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that
man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these
great pillars of human happiness - these firmest props of the duties
of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man,
ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all
their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be
asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life,
if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the
instruments of investigation in courts of justice?
Where is the "Yes I do/No I do not"?
Buny
Maybe you just missed the issue, here. Let's try, again:
There is no "Yes I do" or "no I do not" in this paragraph at all....you can
copy/paste it as many times as you wish, but that does not change the
content...
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that
man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these
great pillars of human happiness - these firmest props of the duties
of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man,
ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all
their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be
asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life,
if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the
instruments of investigation in courts of justice?
Where is the "Yes I do" or "no I do not" answer to my question of "You would
agree to a monument to non-Christian religions on public property?"
Buny
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Texans vote to add 'God' to state pledge
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