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"BLUERHYMER" |
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03 Nov 2004 11:26:00 PM |
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Separation of church and state? Nonsense. |
Separation of church and state? Nonsense.
The Church is the state and always has been.
You admit that your are an atheist and try running for office. G-d help you.
His vote may be the only vote you will get since He LOVES you and allegedly
does not favor any particular candidate or political party.
For those who have any knowledge of Western Civilization, they surely
understand that politics is merely a spin off of the Catholic Church and its
hundreds of years of social control and political appointments in Europe
starting with Constantine's death bed Donation, which added legitimacy to a
convenient political arrangement between the Catholic Church and the Frankish
state.
The Donation was revealed to be a forgery in 1440.
The Donation of Constantine - The Donation of Constantine. ... The
Encyclopedia of Hoaxes. 66-67. On the forgery of the alleged Donation of
Constantine. Text copyright © 2002 Alex Boese. ...
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/donation.html .
Napoleon showed them who was boss.
Where is a Napoleon when we really need him?
Quotation: Karl Rove?
No! Napoleon.
What is the throne? -- a bit of wood gilded and covered with
velvet. I am the state -- I alone am here the representative of
the people. Even if I had done wrong you should not have
reproached me in public -- people wash their dirty linen
at home. France has more need of me than I of France.
To the Senate, 18184
Dr. Vess's World Civilization Virtual Library - ... up to its enlightened
ideals is best exemplified by Napoleon, who in 1804, took the crown from the
pope and put it upon his own head, crowing himself emperor. ...
http://www.faculty.de.gcsu.edu/~dvess/french.htm
This recent political charade's outcome between the public (Catholic), Kerry,
and the born again whatever, Bush, was determined strictly BY religion and a
few sadistic warmongers who would vote for O.J. if he would promise to start a
war someplace.
RE Kerry :
Now we had a Democratic presidential candidate, who is Catholic and a
politician, supporting abortion by supporting laws keeping abortion legal. This
person's advocacy and public support of abortion is completely different than
the Catholic Church position. He not only puts his soul at risk, but also
jeopardizes others by creating scandal.
By supporting abortion, he is not following the Church teaching and making his
own morality. It is clear Church teaching that abortion is immoral and
Catholics should not support it in any way. By supporting him, they are forced
into supporting abortion
The Evangelical vote was somewhere between 15% & 20% of the total Bush vote.
And Catholics went for the questionable (we only have his word) Supreme Court
appointed Corporate warmongering parrot, Bush, by a 52% to a 47% vote for the
New England Patriot, John Kerry ( Maybe a Jew in disguise acording to some.)
Hitler was a made man by the Catholic Church and Mussolini would have been a
pizza maker instead of El Duci if the Vatican had not made a deal with him that
allowed him to romp all over the Italian people and eventually ally himself
with Bush's grandfather's buddy Adolph.
Guardian Unlimited | Special reports | How Bush's grandfather ... - ... How
Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power Rumours of a link between the
US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html
EIPS - Part IV: The Concordat with Hitler - ... Hitler's Pope: Vicar of Christ
or Instrument of the Devil? ... John Cornwell: Hitler's Pope, The Secret
History of Pope Pius XII, Viking, 1999. ...
http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=hitler_4
Hitler was probably like George Bush and most other politicians. He had to
pretend that he was into the superstition so he could be elected Chancellor. He
was a Catholic all of his life despite rumors that he avoided the church.
See Adolph Hitler and the Roman Catholic Church
http://www.angelfire.com/hi2/gracebelievers/hitler_romancatholic.htm
Hitler's Pope
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/hitlerspope.htm
Christianity in Europe During WWII.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/ChurchesWWII.htm
Mussolini:
Lateran Concordat of 1929 - Papal Wound Healed! - ... On February 11th, 1929,
an historic treaty was signed between the Italian ... Benito Mussolini reads
his credentials prior to signing the Lateran Treaty on ...
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/wound.htm
When Catholic bishops start telling their frightened hypocritical patrons who
to vote for, how in the name of Zoroaster can anyone say that there is a
separation of church and state?
Several Catholic Bishops Using Influence to Oppose Kerry
Vocal bishops and like-minded conservative groups are blanketing churches with
guides identifying Catholic priorities.
By David D. Kirkpatrick and Laurie Goodstein
The New York Times
DENVER, Oct. 9 - For Archbishop Charles J. Chaput, the highest-ranking Roman
Catholic prelate in Colorado, there is only one way for a faithful Catholic to
vote in this presidential election: for President Bush and against Senator John
Kerry.
"The church says abortion is a foundational issue," the archbishop explained to
a group of Catholic college students gathered in a sports bar here in this
swing state on Friday night. He stopped short of telling them whom to vote for,
but he reminded them of Mr. Kerry's support for abortion rights. And he pointed
out the potential impact his re-election could have on Roe v. Wade.
"Supreme Court cases can be overturned, right?" he asked.
Archbishop Chaput, who has never explicitly endorsed a candidate, is part of a
group of bishops intent on throwing the weight of the church into the
elections.
Archbishop Chaput says he has had no contact with either campaign or political
party. He says his sole contact with the White House has been his appointment
to the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom. The prelate
acknowledged that his communications director, Sergio Gutierrez, had worked in
the Bush administration, but Archbishop Chaput said he had known Mr. Gutierrez
long before that.
It was only logical for the Republicans to view the church as a "natural ally"
on cultural issues, the archbishop said. He said that would end if a Republican
candidate supported abortion rights.
"We are not with the Republican Party," he said. "They are with us."
To the dismay of liberal Catholics and some other bishops, traditional church
concerns about the death penalty or war are often not mentioned.
Archbishop Chaput has discussed Catholic priorities in the election in 14 of
his 28 columns in the free diocesan newspaper this year. His archdiocese has
organized voter registration drives in more than 40 of the largest parishes in
the state and sent voter guides to churches around the state. Many have
committees to help turn out voters and are distributing applications for
absentee ballots.
In an interview in his residence here, Archbishop Chaput said a vote for a
candidate like Mr. Kerry who supports abortion rights or embryonic stem cell
research would be a sin that must be confessed before receiving Communion.
"If you vote this way, are you cooperating in evil?" he asked. "And if you know
you are cooperating in evil, should you go to confession? The answer is yes."
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/154/story_15416.html
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter"
----- Martin Luther King
Nor Got vaist - Only G-d knows.
Let us prey
Bluerhymer-Goy
Liberal-
Like Christ
http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Separation of church and state? Nonsense. |
04 Nov 2004 08:25:47 AM |
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BLUERHYMER wrote:
Separation of church and state? Nonsense.
The Church is the state and always has been.
In Bush's America, you are correct. As far as historians and Constitutional
scholars, you are entirely wrong.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"The accumulation of all power, legislative, executive, and judicial in the
same hands... may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."
- James Madison, _The Federalist_, #47
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Separation of church and state? Nonsense. |
04 Nov 2004 06:22:54 AM |
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On 04 Nov 2004 05:26:00 GMT, (BLUERHYMER) wrote:
Separation of church and state? Nonsense.
The Church is the state and always has been.
You admit that your are an atheist and try running for office. G-d help you.
His vote may be the only vote you will get since He LOVES you and allegedly
does not favor any particular candidate or political party.
Don't be such an in-your-face, stupidly nasty moron.
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